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The Notorious Story Of The Pike County Massacre 

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Deep in the Appalachian foothills of Pike County, Ohio, eight members of the Rhoden family were slain, execution style, in their beds on the night of April 21-22, 2016. Three children, all age three and under were spared and a tight-knit Appalachian community was left with the questions of who had done such an act and why? The largest mass murder in Ohio history would also set off one of its largest criminal investigations.
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@glizzard1894
@glizzard1894 Год назад
I can't imagine sitting around the dining room table planning to massacre an entire family. They didn't want custody of Sophia.; they wanted ownership of her.
@famous_nobody973
@famous_nobody973 28 дней назад
I want to know did the child have ownership of the land and property or something
@ScrappyKitty15
@ScrappyKitty15 3 дня назад
Can you imagine the burden they put on that poor child’s shoulders, someday knowing that your father killed everyone to get ownership of you. Talk about a double whammy because she might live with guilt that is not hers, because she was the object of the deed. I was just thinking about that, not at all saying it was her fault, but like survivors guilt you wonder why you were allowed to live, her father selfishly put that burden on her shoulders. I pray she never ever thinks that about herself and knows as she grows up it was not her fault. I hope you understand what I’m trying to say.
@QJacPLo
@QJacPLo Год назад
It’s just incredible that they thought they would get away with something of this magnitude.
@jeremybradley559
@jeremybradley559 Год назад
People get so dumb they are not capable of knowing just how brain dead they are.
@Cec9e13
@Cec9e13 Год назад
And then the flip side is that they would have if not for those wives. I mean that's some really good methodical careful planning. They thought of so much that your typical criminal doesn't.
@mytruecrimelibrary
@mytruecrimelibrary Год назад
Yeah like Chris Watts who figured people would just stop looking for his family and he'd be able to move on with his mistress. Sure, this was planned better but they were the obvious suspects.
@kathduncan9618
@kathduncan9618 Год назад
Look at them. The sort of trash who commit these crimes have little grey matter floating in their heads. It's all filled up with greed, hate and self interest. And it makes them fugly as Hell.
@bronxbutterflyrivera78
@bronxbutterflyrivera78 Год назад
They almost did
@thedamddino4893
@thedamddino4893 Год назад
Imagine pulling the trigger on a mother with a child in her arms? Where was your soul?
@niccidee782
@niccidee782 Год назад
He has no soul, it's missing.
@ricklorimer9984
@ricklorimer9984 Год назад
It's the mindset. He knew he was going to do that before he did it. Emotion doesn;t come into. There is none.
@bruceallen461
@bruceallen461 Год назад
It has been settled for years and years. Turner v Driver is the landmark case. Smith V Cumming and Glik v Cuniffe are others.
@philipgotbored6495
@philipgotbored6495 9 месяцев назад
No soul, just pure evil.
@youknowwho3853
@youknowwho3853 8 месяцев назад
demons
@collinbradley994
@collinbradley994 Год назад
5:55 this man has lost so much and he is still showing strength by going to court to help get justice for his fallen family! Much respect!
@VivaSepulchre
@VivaSepulchre Год назад
But why was he wearing gloves when he testified?
@MarioGoatse
@MarioGoatse Год назад
@@VivaSepulchre He had a catalytic converter to steal at 3pm, and court was at 2pm.
@latonyaking8294
@latonyaking8294 Год назад
​@@MarioGoatse😂😂😂😂😂
@KquanFisher-qy3gc
@KquanFisher-qy3gc 10 месяцев назад
​@@MarioGoatse,😂😂😂😂😂
@Liam-zw1ek
@Liam-zw1ek 9 месяцев назад
It was the subpoena that gave him the inner strength to testify.
@Darkvirgo88xx
@Darkvirgo88xx Год назад
The dogs not barking was a subtle red flag. Means the dogs had been around them.
@deniseroe5891
@deniseroe5891 Год назад
Yep, that was my first thought.
@ducttapedigger7811
@ducttapedigger7811 Год назад
Thought that too
@CARDINAL701
@CARDINAL701 Год назад
I thought the very same during OJ Simpsons trial; why didn't the Nicole's Akita attack or bark at the killer??? Cuz it knew him, that's why. And this was never and has never been brought up by anybody then or since. ??????
@Ekdrink
@Ekdrink Год назад
@@CARDINAL701 mans ain’t do it
@dalepainter7462
@dalepainter7462 Год назад
@@CARDINAL701 Isn't this about the Pike muders the fuck O.J name came up focus.
@drea6717
@drea6717 Год назад
So heartbreaking to hear that after Hannah was shot in the head her baby was found still attempting to breastfeed😭
@Kreepyb5
@Kreepyb5 Год назад
Heartbreaking
@dixonbidenzmouth4115
@dixonbidenzmouth4115 Год назад
After Jake shot her her body moved so he repositioned the baby close to her breast. But the baby was not suckling when they found them.
@labelledujour5855
@labelledujour5855 Год назад
That’s the saddest part for me 😭😭😭
@TawnyC_
@TawnyC_ Год назад
He said he moved her body after he shot her, so that the baby could breastfeed. Not sure how that works when the mother is dead.
@1rage17
@1rage17 Год назад
@@TawnyC_ that’s so fucking gross man. super freakin sad
@maryault8928
@maryault8928 Год назад
That poor newborn baby found still trying to feed off her dead mommy is one of the most heartbreaking things I ever heard 😢 💔 😞
@stephaniemurria5534
@stephaniemurria5534 Год назад
😥😭😢
@royroyce6620
@royroyce6620 Год назад
You should not speculate
@fuckYouTubeBringBackDislikes
grow up. that's nothing in this realm.
@semajyo9628
@semajyo9628 Год назад
@@fuckRU-vidBringBackDislikes cringe reply
@jacklantern7479
@jacklantern7479 Год назад
Atleast it won’t remember
@k-willyy733
@k-willyy733 Год назад
These cases never make any sense to me because 98% of the time the child ends up being raised by grandparents or foster care. If you really care about your child, murdering people for custody is never the answer. My prayers go to that little girl, I hope she lives a wonderful life and makes her momma proud.
@2511jeremy
@2511jeremy Год назад
They are to low iq to realize that they are not like me and you
@moggie8605
@moggie8605 Год назад
I think in these cases its more about power and control than the actual child.. Maybe that makes it even more sad.😔
@pandahsykes602
@pandahsykes602 Год назад
Why do you think these murderers are thinking straight ? None of it makes sense , so you can’t make it make sense unfortunately
@sarajeanmarinershera208
@sarajeanmarinershera208 Год назад
Finally! A creator that found out how they got caught and made an informative video about this case. When this happened I was blown away and kept searching for updates to no avail. Then I heard they were arrested but couldn't find out what evidence they had. Thanks so much for this one!
@Kreepyb5
@Kreepyb5 Год назад
Yes
@OG-genX_
@OG-genX_ Год назад
Follow the trial too.its all there.
@MegaCaspar1991
@MegaCaspar1991 Год назад
What is the evidence that leads to arrest them ?
@mercychoke4475
@mercychoke4475 Год назад
⌛ 🤔🤨🤯>😳=🥺 🏛🚔🏛🚔🏛🚔
@ladywarrior1775
@ladywarrior1775 Год назад
Law and Crime and WCPO 9 are covering the George Wagner IV trial right now
@hannah3146
@hannah3146 Год назад
Imagine how the little girl will feel when she gets older. Learning her family massacred people for custody of her 😢 I hope she never feels guilty. This is just sad all around
@spicyirwin5835
@spicyirwin5835 Год назад
But her mom Hannah loved her that much. She was a true mama bear not wanting her with this evil family & would rather be dead.💜🙏💜 She needs therapy now bc she would act out being with Wagners. Still can hear her crying for MOMMY!
@cassandraTPWK
@cassandraTPWK Год назад
@@bestboy138 The little girl is innocent in the whole thing. She didn't ask to be born into the family. But the mom was trying to protect her daughter and not let her be around these people. It's nobodys fault but the PEOPLE WHO ACTIVELY MURDERED the others. Not the baby. 😒😒🙄🙄
@cassiondramiillers5929
@cassiondramiillers5929 Год назад
@@bestboy138 sad troll, man. Sad troll.
@lukelyons8716
@lukelyons8716 Год назад
@@bestboy138 Just like it's your fault your Mom and Dad (who ironically are also your Aunt and Uncle), gave birth to an Alien looking baby with one eye, three legs and a hump. Then your Dad/Uncle went out to get some milk and you haven't seen him since.
@balistixxx3701
@balistixxx3701 Год назад
And the little baby that was either in the bed when her mom/parents were murdered or placed there by her/them afterwards...imagine when that baby learns that part...
@phantom0456
@phantom0456 Год назад
Murdering the parents and family of small children while those children are with said victims… this is beyond monstrous. I hope that these children never blame themselves in any way as they grow up, and I hope that they’re able to cope and prosper. What a sad, horrific tragedy this was.
@user-ki6ce8iy5o
@user-ki6ce8iy5o 7 месяцев назад
the wrong family got massacred if you ask me
@mamapoch1915
@mamapoch1915 Год назад
This is absolutely one of the most heartbreaking and evil cases I’ve ever heard of!
@adamantium4797
@adamantium4797 9 месяцев назад
Cool
@maybee3435
@maybee3435 Год назад
THE WORK THAT GOES INTO THESE IS INSANE. Thank you.
@loveisthekey7
@loveisthekey7 Год назад
True!!! Grateful
@aardvark2641
@aardvark2641 Год назад
What's that on your nose?
@cosmosadorabilis7677
@cosmosadorabilis7677 Год назад
No.
@maybee3435
@maybee3435 Год назад
@@cosmosadorabilis7677 u didnt like the video?
@wenmoon448
@wenmoon448 Год назад
700k a year sweetie, good money
@BB571009
@BB571009 Год назад
I am lost for words to describe this evil. Truly beyond evil. May their souls rest in peace.
@_Denisa_H
@_Denisa_H Год назад
George Wagner IV was found guilty of all 22 charges on Nov 30, 2022
@kittykat8110
@kittykat8110 Год назад
Thank you for that update. 😘
@luvbig41
@luvbig41 Год назад
The pure evil of that family is unmatched. They, as a family, sat down and hatched a plan to murder another family. Not one of them sane enough to see how crazy that was. SMH!!
@DrLuke49
@DrLuke49 Год назад
The Wagners were all perfectly and sanely aware of what they were about to commit. They are not crazy. They are ABSOLUTE EVIL INCARNATE 👹
@Whyxiie
@Whyxiie Год назад
I feel bad for that guy who found the body and while he was testifying, he was also crying. Can’t imagine what they’ve been through. R.I.P.
@JessicaRodriguez-zy5gz
@JessicaRodriguez-zy5gz Год назад
That hurt my heart. Something about a grown man crying kills me.
@cpfs936
@cpfs936 Год назад
Me too. They were obviously close.
@Raresnce
@Raresnce Год назад
It was 2 relatives who found them. A guy and his wife.
@antonia6563
@antonia6563 Год назад
That clip really got to me also. Seeing the trauma and pain while trying to testify is just heartbreaking.
@MyLyricalMuse
@MyLyricalMuse Год назад
Donald Stone I think is his name.
@rockytopchick8657
@rockytopchick8657 11 месяцев назад
It blows my mind how the whole family planned this out for months and everyone was ok with it. Like they were planning a vacation or something. Its scary to think so much evil was in one family
@billtribble7197
@billtribble7197 7 месяцев назад
alot of citizens think the local sheriff was deeply involved. he stole money to pay gambling debts
@user-ki6ce8iy5o
@user-ki6ce8iy5o 7 месяцев назад
the wrong family got massacred if you ask me
@harolddenton6031
@harolddenton6031 6 месяцев назад
@@billtribble7197 both bill Wagner and Kenneth rhoden were involved in a big pot growing operation. Bet the sheriff was on the take receiving some of profits so he would turn a blind eye to that illegal pot growing operation. I have heard about the cornbread mafia being active in northeast Tennessee in the tri cities area.
@nsahandler
@nsahandler 18 дней назад
It's a matter of culture. I'm not kidding. Clan Blood Feuds are rare but when its on there is usually nobody spared. The most-famous one in American History was the Hatfields &,McCoys in the 1800s - they basically turned the peaceful mountainside into an early form of guerilla warfare. The Clan system (the patriarch presents a big decision, everyone says their piece, then everyone - traditionally the males - vote) is an extremely unique culture. It's basically what the Irish and Scottish were on prior to the Feudal Family system (Patriarch makes all the decisions and the children and mother are expected to obey until they build their own family). When I mean "prior to" I mean that the English directly recognized the Clan systems as being the reason they could not fully control the regions. They literally went hill by hill and hall by hall to evict, deport, or kill anyone there. There were no more rebellions from the Scottish or the Irish (until the formation of the IRA and the Sinn Fein nationalist movement).
@niree2
@niree2 Год назад
I have literally been looking to see if anyone would report on this- it happened a little time ago and couldn’t understand why no one was speaking on it. Thank you for reporting on it.
@cammey3
@cammey3 Год назад
It was never about the child, its ALWAYS about control over the mother and thats a fact. They're disgusting human beings and hope they suffer tremendously in jail
@weeshirley5934
@weeshirley5934 Год назад
I agree with you 💯
@mirrrstery
@mirrrstery Год назад
Facts.
@MLD051
@MLD051 Год назад
Agreed
@dellahicks7231
@dellahicks7231 Год назад
Yes absolutely however Sophia needs to be made aware of that fact as she grows up. She is going to need counseling to deal with the events surrounding the death of her mother and family, at the hand of her father's family.
@robertbrunson6994
@robertbrunson6994 Год назад
Statistically more women do this type of crime than men. Just saying, it goes both ways.
@SHAYUPIVER
@SHAYUPIVER Год назад
Love how much information you give. I've seen a few videos about the murders, but yours had the most detail. And you never make the murderer your main focus. Kudos to you for all your hard work and dedication to the stories.
@denisehoose5162
@denisehoose5162 5 месяцев назад
Ive followed this case since the day it broke. Thank you so much for covering it so well. Beyond senseless and evil. Left 3 babies alive w murdered parents. Completely soulless. Not to mention Dana's family were accused and interrogated beyond😢. This family is so evil and heartless.
@stargazeranemiac
@stargazeranemiac Год назад
This crime is absolutely beyond horrific, but their extreme planning and attention to detail was almost the perfect murder. Especially leaving little to no evidence at the crime scene. I think they would have gotten away with it if the 2 girlfriends hadn’t fled and most likely talked. Even if they were charged and tried (if the girlfriends hadn’t talked), I don’t think a jury would have been able to find them guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. You run your mouth, you get caught. And thank God, they did just that! 🙏🏽
@courtneyr6645
@courtneyr6645 Год назад
Was there evidence of the custody battle or phone/text/electronic records that might show motive? They slaughtered anyone in her family that may directly or indirectly be granted or petition for custody of the baby. Thats beyond a reasonable doubt for me at least (Still in the intro ads of the video as I type, so if they address it in this vid, my bad)
@barneyronnie
@barneyronnie Год назад
No it wasn't. They're a bunch of retarded hillbilly trash. The dumb hillbillies ultimately got caught.
@zeik04
@zeik04 Год назад
🙏🏻
@johnlarsen4455
@johnlarsen4455 Год назад
using the murder weapons for target practice was not great planning
@hippityhoppity3800
@hippityhoppity3800 Год назад
yeah, pretty fucking stupid, huh? Let The Mexican Cartel take the blame so we can create more divide in the country? Wake up!
@johnnywalker4857
@johnnywalker4857 Год назад
Eight people lost their young lives over a custody strife. Babies are supposed to bring people together, not tear them apart.
@labelledujour5855
@labelledujour5855 Год назад
They forgot about that part 😭
@Bear78420
@Bear78420 Год назад
Lots of stuff shouldn’t be how it is but, ya know, people suck
@TheRationalist.
@TheRationalist. Год назад
Just another example of why having babies outside of wedlock is a horrible thing to do. Not only do you end up with single m0thers raising tons of dysfunctional children it causes tons of issues between parents. It is insanely selfish and bad all around for the child.
@Gurl-5150
@Gurl-5150 Год назад
Which is why teenage morons should not have kids. Get married, be over 25, and pass some basic goddamn psychiatric tests! THEN have children.
@Gurl-5150
@Gurl-5150 Год назад
@@TheRationalist. There was a time that I thought differently about that but with age and time, I have found that in MOST cases...that's correct.
@rogcat7181
@rogcat7181 Год назад
Well made video👍🏻 Finally cleared up some confusion I had in regards to this case.
@paulamcdonald8905
@paulamcdonald8905 Год назад
I'd like to thank the narrator of the "Beyond Evil" series, Jason Forbis, for the excellent job he has done. In my opinion, Jason is one of the three top narrators in the true crime series field. The other two very talented narrators are Peter Thomas and Bill Kurtis. These three men are simply excellent narrators! Many thanks to all three of these men. And a special thanks to Jason Forbis for always expressing his sympathy to the families of the victims in each episode.
@aarongreen7779
@aarongreen7779 8 месяцев назад
Been watching true crime for a while and shout to those 3 guys thank you for shining light upon them
@lisalynnmarie2448
@lisalynnmarie2448 Год назад
This was such a horrific crime. So many died and for what? At least the little ones were spared. May they not remember anything about this crime. Thanks for another video this fine Thursday!! See you guys next week and have a great weekend 🥰
@spicyirwin5835
@spicyirwin5835 Год назад
So Angela could have control over Sofia. She never thought what was best for the kids just for herself. Look how her 2 sons turned out.
@kenn1936
@kenn1936 Год назад
Imagine knowing that you were at a crime scene, while all around you were murdered. Sofia's little sister, was 4 days old and was the baby in bed with Hannah, when she was shot, Jake repositioned Hannah's dead body, so the baby could continue to feed. And how awful for Frankie and Hannah's child, in bed with them, when they were executed!! Terrible for all children . I don't know if Frankie's other child was actually in the room. It said he was sleeping on the floor, so I am guessing he was. Still asleep at the time.
@beckyboo1433
@beckyboo1433 Год назад
@@kenn1936 he was asleep on the living room couch 😔😔 I think he had the most trauma of all the kids because he was aware that something was wrong. Poor guy, I hope he grows up with no memory of it
@myview5840
@myview5840 Год назад
Apples rarely fall far from the tree
@DontPretendtoCare
@DontPretendtoCare 8 месяцев назад
Sure blame the drugs and not the "victims" 🖕
@colesmith7509
@colesmith7509 Год назад
I’m honestly shocked with how “well” the massacre was put together. They don’t come across as the brightest bunch but the lengths they went to to conceal themselves were insane. I guess it just shows how horrific and selfish they were
@madsdee7803
@madsdee7803 Год назад
I think the mother who wanted the child came up with the plan and the dumb males all went along with it.
@angelapyle7301
@angelapyle7301 Год назад
True
@Xenotypal
@Xenotypal Год назад
don't underestimate people from these areas, they may not be book smart, but they are certainly street wise and cunning. I know, as I'm from a similar area.
@colesmith7509
@colesmith7509 Год назад
@@Xenotypal Cunning? Yes. Wise? Absolutely not in their case
@Xenotypal
@Xenotypal Год назад
@@colesmith7509 well, i meant more like street wise. there are some old folks with practical wisdom though. really, the point is that you can't underestimate hicks just because they aint got no book learnins obviously at the end of the day i realize they weren't wise in the normal sense of the word. Wise? no. Street wise? very.
@kiromikhail4925
@kiromikhail4925 11 месяцев назад
Seems like this is how Ohio and Florida folks solve problems. Unfathomable. Rip to all involved
@TerribleShmeltingAccident
@TerribleShmeltingAccident Год назад
Superb narration, video production, research & story telling! Kudos sir, you’ve earned a new sub!
@AndieMae87
@AndieMae87 Год назад
This is seriously just as researched, detailed, and enthralling as anything I’ve ever just casually watched on Investigative Discovery. I hope you’re very proud of these videos because you should be. Thanks for another home run.
@ktcooki276
@ktcooki276 Год назад
You can afford ID?!!😆 GAWD, I wish I could lol!!😊
@AndieMae87
@AndieMae87 Год назад
@@ktcooki276 can I? Yes. Do i want to? Nahhhh lol i get it on discovery plus….i this the one who carries it to stream. Screw cable or satellite bills! Plus I did really mean what I said here…you can watch ID 24/7 and it will suck for 23 straight hours until one good show comes on or you can just watch this. I choose the option that isn’t like paying a whole damn extra mortgage or car lease every month 😬🤣
@user-ki6ce8iy5o
@user-ki6ce8iy5o 7 месяцев назад
the wrong family got massacred if you ask me
@A.Girl.Has.No.Name.
@A.Girl.Has.No.Name. Год назад
This case always reminds me of the Anderson family massacre on Christmas Eve 2007, in Carnation, WA. A retired couple, their son and daughter-in-law, and their two small children, were gunned down over the Christmas holiday by the adult daughter (& her boyfriend) because she claimed her brother owed her money, and her parents treated her "unfairly." I will simply NEVER be able to fathom how someone (or multiple someones) can decimate people's lives, much less multiple generations of a family, without even a second thought.
@thatgardeninggirl2864
@thatgardeninggirl2864 Год назад
Oh goodness yes the sister and her bf killed them all then waited on her brother his wife and kids. So senseless so sad
@truth4004
@truth4004 Год назад
This is why I don't mind not having kids.
@crystalhendry5607
@crystalhendry5607 Год назад
This story reminded me of that too. I don't live far from Carnation..
@A.Girl.Has.No.Name.
@A.Girl.Has.No.Name. Год назад
@@crystalhendry5607 yep, I'm in Bothell, so I followed it closely.
@crystalhendry5607
@crystalhendry5607 Год назад
@@A.Girl.Has.No.Name. I'm in Monroe
@ademoss80
@ademoss80 Год назад
Hell even the mothers of the parents were arrested for helping with the forgery. This was truly a horrifying family event. The narcissism must run thick through that family.
@ogfullmelt
@ogfullmelt Год назад
Part of their culture
@CODCritic101
@CODCritic101 Год назад
@@ogfullmelt ok nigga 😂
@ogfullmelt
@ogfullmelt Год назад
@@CODCritic101 I'm not but okay fragile white male
@cincin4515
@cincin4515 Год назад
The entire world is diagnosing narcissism on every criminal. American pop psychology is getting tedious.
@wutang646
@wutang646 Год назад
This is heartbreaking 💔 😢 Great details and information. Keep it up
@Cricket9579
@Cricket9579 Год назад
How ABSOLUTLEY evil, horrific and cowardly. They should ALL have received the death penalty. It's disgusting how criminals try worm their way out by trying to cut deals. It's not through remorse for their victims, it's for their own selfish, cowardly reasons. My heart breaks for the victims, their families, and the poor babies that have to face life without their beautiful mothers. Thank-you again for being so respectful and caring in the way the show is narrated and showing sympathy and love for the victims and families of these horrific, unspeakable crimes. May they all R.I.P. And hopefully their loved ones can find peace, someday. 💞
@weeshirley5934
@weeshirley5934 Год назад
Great comment
@AlexAndra-iy5zu
@AlexAndra-iy5zu Год назад
OMG!! This is gruesome 😢 I’m grateful the babies were spared but they have no parents 😔
@Andreamom001
@Andreamom001 Год назад
I know! That poor newborn trying to nurse from its dead mommy. Just awful.
@KDiamond666
@KDiamond666 Год назад
This ppl disgust me so much. When the story first came out I was like no cartel would do this, this had to be personal. My heart goes out to the kids, I lost my mom 2 yrs ago because of cancer and I’m still grieving, imagine this babies so little without mommy. Just breaks my heart😢 I pray they grow to have healthy lives and recover from this with therapy and much love from the family.
@AlexAndra-iy5zu
@AlexAndra-iy5zu Год назад
@@Andreamom001 That hurt to the core.
@Raresnce
@Raresnce Год назад
@@KDiamond666 Umm a drug cartel would definitely do this. They will either kill everyone including the children and pets OR they will spare the other children. That's what the other family was counting on and it worked for a while.
@tatemushroom1002
@tatemushroom1002 Год назад
@@KDiamond666 ive seen the cartel kill and torture whole families it is incomparable to a random spree killing
@Dreyden-
@Dreyden- 8 месяцев назад
This isn't the 70s or 80s, law enforcement has evolved. We are solving cases that are 20 or 30 years old. The chances of you getting away with it are slim to none. Those poor little babies.
@implecity
@implecity Год назад
I live in this town. I remember the day it happened, my school went into partial lockdown because they didn’t know what else was going to happen. Everyone was freaking out. It hits a lot more because of how small our town is, less than 5k people.
@KatlynJShute
@KatlynJShute Год назад
I am so sorry you have been going through this. The trial has been horrific. I hope your community finds peace.
@travelerforever8849
@travelerforever8849 Год назад
it is such a beautiful place and look so peaceful. Pity some evil people spoil everything luckily they were caught.
@exiled-2010
@exiled-2010 Год назад
I live in Cincinnati a few counties west and I was armed once I heard it. It rocked The entire area for sure!!
@velvetbees
@velvetbees Год назад
Many years ago I lived where a serial killer was active for a few years. It's one thing to read about this kind of situation. It's a whole other thing to have it happen around you. It leaves you with a terrible feeling that the world is not safe. It takes time to get that peace back again.
@SouthernMimi2
@SouthernMimi2 Год назад
@@exiled-2010 the sheriff office was even telling people in the area to arm themselves. I was visiting family in Portsmouth when this happened. So sad😢
@Sinnobun
@Sinnobun Год назад
I lived here and I remember the days after this incident, I was forced to stay inside for days. Shit was crazy because of how few people actually live here. Everyone was on edge. My heart still breaks for the victims of this horrible tragedy, along with the people who once called the victims their friends. So glad justice was finally served.
@ginger7344
@ginger7344 Год назад
The number of hearses carrying bodies is terribly sad. I live 2 counties away, this awful situation shook us all. Massacre indeed.
@stephaniebach__12-24
@stephaniebach__12-24 Год назад
There should never be that many hursts at one time😢… I also live a couple counties away.. Warren
@darknesskingsized8996
@darknesskingsized8996 Год назад
Guys it's hearse
@ginger7344
@ginger7344 Год назад
@@darknesskingsized8996 thx😊
@stephaniebach__12-24
@stephaniebach__12-24 Год назад
@@darknesskingsized8996 oops
@RobinHood-1961
@RobinHood-1961 Год назад
I have asked many channels to cover this story, but to date they haven't. I came across your story on this, so thank you for covering it. This massacre happened very close to home and it stills haunts many of us to this day. This is the worst case in Ohio history. Thanks again for putting it out there. The Rhoden Family needs to be remembered.
@ladywarrior1775
@ladywarrior1775 Год назад
They couldn't cover the story when the active investigation was going on. Right now George Wagner IV is on trial on youtube Law and crime and wcpo 9 you can see all the evidence there this week we should see how BCI actually did their investigation and how they found the weapons and linked it all
@melissak8419
@melissak8419 Год назад
Used to go visit my father-in-law when he lived in a town nearby where this happened in the mid to late 90's. Have other in--laws who were posting on FB when this happened and was on the news. Scary that one family did this to another family over a custody battle. Listening to the wiretaps of the trial, today, and wow, the way this family talked to each other like its normal is something else.
@Water_lily_lily
@Water_lily_lily Год назад
The only bright side of this horrible case is that the babies were not killed.
@kimberlylaughner5067
@kimberlylaughner5067 Год назад
The insanity of such a heinous act blows my mind.. An entire family!! They really thought they’d get away with it 🤦🏻‍♀️
@miriamama9200
@miriamama9200 Год назад
The narrator's voice is so perfect.... keep up the good work. This story is a real tragedy
@brianalaundrie6192
@brianalaundrie6192 Год назад
The narrator name is the Raven
@THATDAMSPORTSHOW
@THATDAMSPORTSHOW Год назад
This is the raven as well ? I thought he only did explore with us ?
@THATDAMSPORTSHOW
@THATDAMSPORTSHOW Год назад
@@brianalaundrie6192 omg I thought your name said Brian laundrie at first lol
@THATDAMSPORTSHOW
@THATDAMSPORTSHOW Год назад
I'm pretty sure Russell Archey is the ravon look it up he has a youtube video on here somewhere I believe this is someone different I could be wrong though
@nathanw7114
@nathanw7114 Год назад
@@THATDAMSPORTSHOW I don’t think it’s him, I took a quick listen and didn’t hear anything similar..
@katelinkeeney8903
@katelinkeeney8903 Год назад
Great coverage. You are at the very top of the true crime genre.
@bmc_.40
@bmc_.40 Год назад
My family is related to them when it first happened they said not to post it or share it cus they didn't know what was going on and who all they wanted to kill honestly it's crazy
@aishalea7508
@aishalea7508 Год назад
to so calmly and fully plan and commit 8 murders all to get custody is just mind boggling.... that poor child, i hope she manages a happy life :(
@bluemackeral
@bluemackeral Год назад
They could have just sued for joint custody! Ohio likes both parents to be involved
@mlcoffey2
@mlcoffey2 Год назад
That was my thought. They murdered all of those people and then just went on like nothing happened. They are truly psychopaths. I hope they have nightmares of crying babies every night.
@pisces_chick2511
@pisces_chick2511 Год назад
Finally someone is talking about this case!!
@JenaBakalov
@JenaBakalov Год назад
I saw it in many channels long time ago
@saradavis6505
@saradavis6505 Год назад
I live in Ohio & I knew at the time with the number of defendants it would take the prosecutors longer than usual & then Covid slowed down the trials. The trials are on RU-vid. The man who found his family members, oh my, so hard to listen to his testimony.
@pisces_chick2511
@pisces_chick2511 Год назад
@@saradavis6505 I am from Ohio too! I hope one day they make a docu on Netflix or something similar. With all the people involved & a script Hollywood couldn't even dream up, hell, it could easily be 10 episodes or more!! They really went over the top with their scheming & dreaming. Still blows my mind that the Wagner's thought they could get away with it, but that's what you get with a family full of Sociopaths.
@dixonbidenzmouth4115
@dixonbidenzmouth4115 Год назад
​@@pisces_chick2511 Do you really think Hollyweird could make an accurate movie about this? They would be sure to make it entertaining so as to rake in the 💰💰💰💰
@pisces_chick2511
@pisces_chick2511 Год назад
@@dixonbidenzmouth4115 My point is Hollywood would never do it justice. You know the saying, The truth is stranger than fiction?
@one.2622
@one.2622 Год назад
How would anyone know if the dogs barked or not?
@prplAlliekit
@prplAlliekit Год назад
That's one very evil family. I feel so bad for those kids and remaining family members. To think little Sophia has to grow up without her mama and other members of her extended family because her father helped murder them all. I pray that the children will continue to be protected and raised in q loving environment.
@texasrefugee7888
@texasrefugee7888 Год назад
I married into a very rich very narcissistic family like this. The wealthy mother-in-law was the master manipulator and control freak. What a nightmare for any woman having a child in a family like this and watching what they do to the children.
@kevinjohnson7418
@kevinjohnson7418 Год назад
Don’t forget about the other half of victims . The men. My nightmare is also similar , except society has more trouble seeing he women like this , and they may do more damage to the children
@sabrinadunson6903
@sabrinadunson6903 Год назад
Yes Exactly Shows The Depths Of Evil These Narcissistic People will go to Just to have their way And these People Didn't have the Wealth Many Narcissistic People Do Pure Evil 😈
@LilyElkind
@LilyElkind Год назад
@@iWantToBelieve... and a bunch of men were victims too. Show a little respect
@queencerseilannister3519
@queencerseilannister3519 Год назад
@@LilyElkind But not in this scenario.
@Raresnce
@Raresnce Год назад
This family wasn't rich like that. They were just hard working middle class.
@jackanderson4419
@jackanderson4419 Год назад
My family owns a weekend property in the backwoods near where this happened. After this happened, we all felt super uneasy about ever staying down there. I always imagined the area to be so peaceful and a very nice place to be able to get away from the stress and noise of the city. We never imagined something like this could happen in a place like this. I can't imagine how the people felt that lived in that area their whole life. A super tragic story.
@jonathandeepee8317
@jonathandeepee8317 4 месяца назад
I have nightmares of that intro song.... I love this channel!
@apt13podcast74
@apt13podcast74 Год назад
I live about 20 minutes away from Pike County. Still hard to believe that all of this happened the way that it did. Very very good coverage on your part.
@NunYaaBizz
@NunYaaBizz Год назад
I live 15 minutes away
@apt13podcast74
@apt13podcast74 Год назад
@@NunYaaBizz I would ask where since we’re so close to one another but your username says it all. haha
@kirstenlong237
@kirstenlong237 4 месяца назад
I lived in waverly 20 mins from pike county my brother was friends with Chris jr.
@dakotaflowers0
@dakotaflowers0 Год назад
I'm born and raised for 30 years just 2 counties east (45 minutes) from where this occurred. I'll be the first to tell you, these hills in Southern Ohio have many many unsolved murders, were a tight-lipped region, very resentful toward outsiders and law enforcement. It's not often that a murder case around here actually comes to a close, it is a relief to see this horrendous massacre recieve due justice. Those poor poor babies. 😢
@Local_commentor
@Local_commentor Год назад
Only in Ohio 💀
@SG-xy6hf
@SG-xy6hf Год назад
‘It’s not often that a murder case around here actually comes to a close’ - This statement is just simply not true.
@StandStrong614
@StandStrong614 Год назад
​@S G I am from Portsmouth Ohio and there's so many missing persons cases there unsolved that I can't remember them all. Of course some murders get solved but many don't and that is the truth.
@YooTuba
@YooTuba Год назад
Thanks for covering this. I'm from Ohio originally and thought when this happened that it must have been a drug gang killing. Mindblowing that it turned out to be over custody.
@casecold1864
@casecold1864 Год назад
It's way to personal for any business related stuff. You don't shoot them 8x in the head when its not personal.
@54raceman
@54raceman Год назад
Every one that knew any the rhodens expected it to be over drugs aswell because they had been stepping on toes they shouldn’t have because they thought they were invincible
@parth1211
@parth1211 Год назад
I am addicted to your intro music 💓
@Tabiannax84x
@Tabiannax84x Год назад
If they actually cared about that baby at all, they would not have done this. Horrific.
@valeriereckseen6731
@valeriereckseen6731 Год назад
Very comprehensive video. Havent seen this case covered much. Good work
@emersontrench1354
@emersontrench1354 Год назад
Great coverage, as an Ohian that's known about this I'm now satisfied justice has been delt
@lilfuzzy31019
@lilfuzzy31019 Год назад
I like hearing anything from the Pike County Murders, it is only about 30 miles away from where I live. Thank you.
@eleaftha2008
@eleaftha2008 Год назад
I'm always amaze that people will kill someone in order to get a child. Like when you get caught you won't have said child 🤷🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️
@chancerummy
@chancerummy Год назад
Yup, unfortunately it’s the mindset “if I can’t have them, no one can”
@triggerhappy8872
@triggerhappy8872 Год назад
Yeh i know & the same goes for dudes that kill some guy because he’s jealous about his girlfriend or ex or whatever?. It’s like well now you killed a guy & your gonna be in prison for life, well now she’s gonna move on & find a new guy whilst you die in prison 😳 so it was basically pointless doing what you did..
@alliekattlopez5535
@alliekattlopez5535 Год назад
It's called, " Stuck on stupid. ".
@bettyhutzell3438
@bettyhutzell3438 Год назад
I guess they either think they won't get caught or they don't care
@Absolewtly
@Absolewtly Год назад
Irony is the kid wasn’t even the guys, DNA proved otherwise. So 8 lives lost for nothing. Kinda hits home considering, I live a towns length away
@faykouri1162
@faykouri1162 Год назад
This was so tragic, I watched their trial, all these people killed over the custody of a child. What kind of people orchestrate such murders and want to be called a family !
@carolw8579
@carolw8579 Год назад
🤷‍♂️
@Lifesizemortal
@Lifesizemortal Год назад
I think I saw this family in a Rob Zombie movie
@spicyirwin5835
@spicyirwin5835 Год назад
Undercover & etc should be opted out but not killers. Frustrating to not hear Jake but learn how he defends his mom who taught him control & abuse not LOVE. Sons dont know how love feels just control. Angela never gave her boys a chance of happiness but I hear Jake was so cold on the stand. Sofia wouldve been better with a loving family & I wonder if they killed bc of witnesses or they could get custody.
@keepitforreally4501
@keepitforreally4501 Год назад
@@spicyirwin5835 Usually a man doesn’t want the woman to have the child because he doesn’t want to pay child support
@cammey3
@cammey3 Год назад
It wasn't about the baby, it never is, it's about the control they wanted over her mother
@kirstenlong237
@kirstenlong237 4 месяца назад
I’m from Pike County… I knew them… chris jr was my brothers friends in school… this haunts me… they lived down the street from brothers wife’s house. Thank you for covering this story.. this hits close to home…
@ricklitton
@ricklitton Год назад
Damn you got a sub here. Fantastic work
@maryannanderson2213
@maryannanderson2213 Год назад
The only word to describe this is diabolical. It's difficult to imagine that many cold-blooded killers being a part of one family. They evidently loved that little girl in their own sick, twisted way if they were willing to kill eight people to get custody of her so I wonder how they feel realizing she probably she will grow up to hate them for what they did to the other side of her family. Unbelievable! And for what? They will spend decades, if not their entire lives, behind bars and will very likely never even see her again. It amazes me not only how evil people can be but how bone stupid they can be.
@ShowMeTheMoneyShot
@ShowMeTheMoneyShot Год назад
That is something that had always puzzled me about these types of cases as well, I mean did they honestly think that after murdering 8 people that they would actually get custody of the child? Are they really that cut off from reality, or just stupid? You’re gonna either get the chair or spend the rest of your life behind bars, you will never see your child again you absolute moron
@sonjastanger5858
@sonjastanger5858 Год назад
Kinda like the Hatfield's & McCoy's... js'in
@Reudze
@Reudze Год назад
Its not love its control.
@flash_flood_area
@flash_flood_area Год назад
Also, the older adults ruined the life of their younger son, Jake. Not that he bore no responsibility, but his older family members bear even more responsibility, and they had already lived most of their adult lives in freedom. His entire adulthood will be spent incarcerated. They accomplished nothing but devastation.
@sharonthompson672
@sharonthompson672 Год назад
@@Reudze Yes, I agree. She wasn't a child, she was a possession. Sad.
@dandybaabs8712
@dandybaabs8712 Год назад
I live in the next town over. It was such a horrific crime it shook everyone in the surrounding towns. The 2 boys were arrested in Chillicothe Ohio, which is where I live.
@kirstenlong237
@kirstenlong237 4 месяца назад
I lived in pike county/waverly and knew the Rhodens… Chris jr was my brothers friend and my brothers now wife was next door neighbors and my sister in laws dad was friends with Chris Sr
@sabrinakegley3468
@sabrinakegley3468 Год назад
Many blessings and prayers for the family and friends that knew them I'm so sorry for your lost my condolences.
@bakerrr925
@bakerrr925 Год назад
First video of yours I seen it deserve a subscribe with notifications on
@theobnoxiousweed
@theobnoxiousweed Год назад
This is as premeditated as it gets. So much time to prepare and so much time to change their minds.
@DinoCism
@DinoCism Год назад
"Siri, give me every negative white trash stereotype in one so-called 'family'..."
@dixonbidenzmouth4115
@dixonbidenzmouth4115 Год назад
Insane that Serial Killers have a choice to opt out of media coverage and more so allowed to make a plea deal !!
@jamiekellis9682
@jamiekellis9682 Год назад
Exactly!!! Don't see where it's right. Everyone else was ok to be seen live but these 2 don't wanna show thier faces for everyone to see what low life's they are but everyone knows what they are.
@cincin4515
@cincin4515 Год назад
Are you aware of what a plea deal is and how it can successfully effect the outcome of the case? It's almost a guarantee that nobody walks over "technicalities".
@dixonbidenzmouth4115
@dixonbidenzmouth4115 Год назад
@@cincin4515 They gave up ALL their rights when they took anothers life
@americanguns6732
@americanguns6732 Год назад
Its “Thoughts and Prayers” not “hopes”. Not only does “hope” do very little for a person while prayers have the power to move mountains, but its just bad PC nonsense to remove God from our outlook on these kind of horrors as well as good things and everyday life. Thanks for telling of this awful story and our thoughts and prayers go out to the families, friends and the community as a whole in the aftermath of this horrible episode. God bless!
@Alcatraz2k
@Alcatraz2k Год назад
I'd take hope over prayers any day
@jamesmitchell6288
@jamesmitchell6288 Год назад
@@Alcatraz2k …..I’ll pray for you
@TheMsJericaShow
@TheMsJericaShow Год назад
The baby still trying to nurse broke my heart 😩
@stephaniemurria5534
@stephaniemurria5534 Год назад
😢😭😥
@tinak.356
@tinak.356 Год назад
Me too!! baby was hungry. Poor Baby and Everyone!!!
@TheRealJaded
@TheRealJaded Год назад
Tragic
@adamantium4797
@adamantium4797 9 месяцев назад
So what lol
@sherrialford6038
@sherrialford6038 Год назад
What a crock that the sheriff's office takes all the Glory for finding the killer's. But 2 young lady's solved the case for them. RIP to all the victims and their family and friends 🙏
@8Scorpions
@8Scorpions 11 месяцев назад
We need more🤔....but I do believe this bc that Sheriff was a crook 💯
@user-ki6ce8iy5o
@user-ki6ce8iy5o 7 месяцев назад
the wrong family got massacred if you ask me
@Alexandra-ng1ih
@Alexandra-ng1ih Год назад
“Spared the Kids”. No, you killed their parent aka their only means to survive, and left them to drown in a pool of their parents blood and starve to death… How is that sparing them
@robharding4028
@robharding4028 Год назад
Humanity is far from perfect, in fact its far from normal in many respects.These monsters operate within our communities , and there are many more than we can imagine. Condolences to all those family members who grieved for these murdered victims.
@rezkinginternational
@rezkinginternational Год назад
This family had a wicked streak in their entire blood line. The entire blood line, not one of them refused, or stepped away from that kind of hate, plans, and vindictiveness.
@tmak4699
@tmak4699 Год назад
Children bring out very strong emotions..hopefully you are never put in that position, or if you are can learn to forgive. it can take 3 years or more
@rezkinginternational
@rezkinginternational Год назад
@@tmak4699 I have great grand children, have children from four women, and two legit wives. I would never try to take a child from their mother, I still had good relations, I just let them be with their mom, when they got old enough they came to me,..no need to murder over them.
@tmak4699
@tmak4699 Год назад
@@rezkinginternational not all relations remain "good"..people use children as means to hurt others
@GaZonk100
@GaZonk100 Год назад
all bad blood comes from in-breeding...no matter how far back
@Stephk_over-it-done.
@Stephk_over-it-done. Год назад
Just wow Im totally speechless. Many prayers n much love to all the innocent that have to suffer from such horrible crimes💯❤️❤️❤️❤️
@ramonbriones4487
@ramonbriones4487 7 месяцев назад
First time viewer. This was done very well! One complaint, yall told us who was arrested and the murderers quickly on the video without a buildup! Some of us have never heard of the case and it coulda waited a bit.
@michellefarley7319
@michellefarley7319 3 месяца назад
I like how he actually tells the whole thing from start to the trial and sentencing. Most RU-vid pages do not go that far.
@floraposteschild4184
@floraposteschild4184 4 месяца назад
I swear, effective birth control would eliminate half of all true crime stories.
@bdiff
@bdiff Год назад
Great job on all the information as always, I appreciate all the work that goes into making your videos.
@MommaBrezo
@MommaBrezo Год назад
I live and grew up in a nearby county. Let me tell you this has been a crazy case and situation. I am glad that justice has been served in this case, however you wouldn't believe how many times something like this happens in these areas.
@4TY7_GLENN
@4TY7_GLENN Год назад
Hey hello
@user-ki6ce8iy5o
@user-ki6ce8iy5o 7 месяцев назад
the wrong family got massacred if you ask me
@Wyrrlicci
@Wyrrlicci 3 месяца назад
As a Resident of Ohio I remember when this news broke. What a nightmare :/
@kittykat8110
@kittykat8110 Год назад
I remember this when it happened.. I always look for updates every so often. It takes a cold hearted S.O.B to kill a mother with her newborn child sucking on her breast. This whole case is a tragedy.
@Schinzo__
@Schinzo__ Год назад
Just like me :)
@threespringscampground8521
@threespringscampground8521 Год назад
So sad! May God watch over all the children who lost their families that night.
@Kay-xf9pf
@Kay-xf9pf Год назад
If God was real why would he let this happen at all.
@eszterannavoros9078
@eszterannavoros9078 Год назад
I love your videos, they are very well put-together, and the narrator’s voice is perfect too. Beyond Evil and Explore With Us/EWU Crime Storytime are my two favourite true crime channels BY FAR!
@2NDFLB-CLERK
@2NDFLB-CLERK Год назад
▪️ I was thinking he sounds alot like the ewu guy. I just found this channel... another good one is dire trip. 🟥
@Local_commentor
@Local_commentor Год назад
Only in Ohio 💀
@ElizabethGonzalez-jf6ks
@ElizabethGonzalez-jf6ks 8 месяцев назад
I Just love his tone and how he always expreses his symphony to the their love ones
@katherinecollins4685
@katherinecollins4685 Год назад
Well presented
@CNYKnifeNut
@CNYKnifeNut Год назад
ITT: Literally everyone that's ever even driven through Ohio, needing to let the world know that they're "local."
@kirstenlong237
@kirstenlong237 4 месяца назад
I was born and raised there. My brother was friends with Chris Jr. This was tough news for the locals.
@kayleighweber1016
@kayleighweber1016 Год назад
Listen I worked on this case when it was happening and it was just pure Insanity and I have never seen so many grown men so destroyed by this as those officers were while dealing with all of this
@gogators5762
@gogators5762 Год назад
What do you mean worked on it? Can you please share. Thank you kindly!!
@kd3283
@kd3283 Год назад
Kayleigh is full of sh!t
@kayleighweber1016
@kayleighweber1016 Год назад
@@gogators5762 Well I am an Ohio Bureau Of Investigations photographer and crime scene cleanup officer so what I do is go in after the forensics agents are finished and have cleared the scene and have gotten all of their evidence they feel that they're going to need and I go in and take more pictures just in case anything has been missed and I take very up close and intricate pictures of blood pools and spatters and then just before they either open the crime scene back up to the family or they decide to keep it a close crime scene until Court once they get ready to open the crime scene to the family we go in and clean as much as we can not just blood the other bodily fluids tissues and put them on slides for later on down the road for when the prosecutor and or defense attorney need better photographic evidence for there original motions of discovery for court
@kayleighweber1016
@kayleighweber1016 Год назад
@@kd3283 well I'm glad you think that you know a. Who I am b. What you think you know about me and my life c. When it's you that don't know shit an are full of shit yourself
@kd3283
@kd3283 Год назад
@@kayleighweber1016 There is no record of you working for them
@TheNickhammond
@TheNickhammond 9 месяцев назад
This is a case where social media needs to apologize to that counties law enforcement. The amount of criticism they underwent for such a difficult case was unprecedented. They handled it professionally and like it was their own family that was murdered. I want to personally thank them for the amazing job at bringing justice to the survivors.
@markinvt
@markinvt Год назад
Good video!
@audrahartman4212
@audrahartman4212 Год назад
How horrific… to know that a small group of people could conspire to destroy an entire family… 😢
@mamadukes9791
@mamadukes9791 Год назад
I just subscribed. You did a great job on this case and your voice is outstanding! ❤️
@Patricia-wz4er
@Patricia-wz4er Год назад
I remember this case from years ago, and remember family possibly being involved. A horrible crime and waste of life. So much darkness with this case, but I'm glad some justice for those who were killed is had. RIP.
@LKre-vi5oq
@LKre-vi5oq Год назад
There is an interview with the fiance/wife who met "Jake" while he and his family were hiding in Alaska. Somewhere on RU-vid. What she says about this sick, sick family is nothing short of astonishing. She's extremely thankful to have been able to get away from the Wagner brood.
@redemptionroad1378
@redemptionroad1378 Год назад
Sending condolences before starting is a very nice touch I've never seen before on a story like this. Very considerate and respectable.
@jessicascearcy2511
@jessicascearcy2511 Год назад
I live very very close to here. It was so ghastly seeing them pull all the mobile homes out to bring them to storage for evidence. Our town was shut down, schools where on lock down because 8 people where dead and they didn't know if there was an active shooter. Our town was rocked with media for weeks. Nothing happens here, but when this did our lives in this small town where never the same. Dana's sister used to come into my work. She hasn't been right since she came upon this scene.
@jessicascearcy2511
@jessicascearcy2511 Год назад
Also the picture you showed of Bobbi Jo was actually Dana. Not Bobbi Jo.
@cyraven2834
@cyraven2834 Год назад
Why was the guy who testified (in the blue wrangler shirt) wearing work gloves on the witness stand?
@cyraven2834
@cyraven2834 Год назад
Not making fun.....just genuinely curious
@scallopohare9431
@scallopohare9431 Год назад
@@cyraven2834 Yeah, I wondered, too. I have seen an electrician whose hands had been severely burned, who wore gloves, but tjose were tight-fitting.
@INSTAFLIXMEDIA
@INSTAFLIXMEDIA Год назад
Cement blocks!? That was ingenious! I've seen numerous crime movies and true crime documentaries but the planning they did was ingenious.
@adamantium4797
@adamantium4797 9 месяцев назад
Take notes. Now I know many ways to hide evidence of my crimes
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