The Nuclear Sudoku

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** TODAY'S PUZZLE **
Today's puzzle is called Atom and it's by the astonishing constructor TotallyNormalCat. Whereas TNC's sudokus are often brutally difficult, this one is rated just 2/5 on Logic Masters Germany... could you solve it? Play the puzzle at the link below:
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@aidarosullivan5269 2 года назад

As a physicist, I have to applaud TNC for his ever impressive wit. And not just for a pretty pattern similar to atom, but for how electron circles on the orbit seem to somewhat obey Pauli exclusion principle. Absolutely fascinating!

@masheroz 2 года назад

Looks like N + one electron

@sjm6280 2 года назад

That 6 pencilmark in r5c2...

@BaalsMistress 2 года назад

mmm, screaming that one at the screen. Also the 6 pencil mark in R3C3

@wypmangames 2 года назад

I know right

@CharlesGoodwin 2 года назад

It was hard to watch. I had to skip ahead to find out if he ever did realise the inanity of it (and he didn't).

@McMxxCiV 2 года назад

Yeah, yelling at your screen as well? I know I was...

@tymon5349 2 года назад

Nice chain reaction at the end there... Started slow but then went critical

@BigAsciiHappyStar 2 года назад

I see what you did there :)

@francoisduez601 2 года назад

36:10 Nuclearly clever setting 😊

@therocknrollmillennial535 2 года назад

Just under 55 minutes for me on this one, totally beautiful design and even better puzzle! This was enjoyable and one of the few I've been able to solve on my own! Thank you, TNC, for the lovely setting, and thank you, Simon, for the amazing video!

@BigAsciiHappyStar 2 года назад

Today’s Sudoku-In-A-Song There’s protons and there’s neutrons Mysterious electrons We learn them in chemistry The Atoms Family (at least I tried)

@bobblebardsley 2 года назад

I can see how you'd come up with the shape of the between lines and why they're very restricting. How the given digits give so much information over and over again, I can't even imagine how you come up with that. Beautiful.

@caysherry8701 2 года назад

Simon: "Let's imagine this square is a 2 and this square a 7" Me having already solved the puzzle: 😳

@nadines.1107 2 года назад

Spot on??

@masheroz 2 года назад

I wonder how many times he's done that...

@_DomeCzech 2 года назад

"We mustn't forget sudoku in our sudoku puzzles." - Simon, 2022

@madsli 2 года назад

Can't be the only one screaming at that 6 pencil mark in box 4's circle.

@RotemN 2 года назад

I legit had to pause the video, get up, do something and come back. As always Simon figured out it wasn't a 6 in the most complicated way possible

@dennishill4575 2 года назад

Yes. I rarely spot things he misses so I was both elated and frustrated

@watzimagiga 2 года назад

The best part is he noticed it couldn't be a 6 in one situation, but didn't process that applies to any situation 😂😂

@drummindave50 Год назад

i literally had to skip ahead until 6 was gone from that square because it was irking me

@chesshead 2 года назад

I'm going to say it looks like an ion of fluorine which has borrowed it's eighth outer electron from another atom (probably hydrogen - making hydrofluoric acid). Atoms desire to have completed electron shells. Neon is the next element, and already has a complete outer shell, but if it was neon then there would be 8 lines emanating from the nucleus.

@salionshatterstar 2 года назад

It could alternatively be chlorine, right? I think that also has 7 out of 8 electrons in its outer shell.

@Hitchhiker_a.d.R. 2 года назад

@@salionshatterstar Yup. If you only consider the outer shell it could be any halide ion (additionally iodine and bromine (and technically also radioactive astatine and artificially made tennessine))

@masheroz 2 года назад

I was going with N + an electron

@iabervon 2 года назад

TotallyNormalCat missed a chance to clarify the element in question. If the whole puzzle were low/high swapped, all the logic would work the same, but the atom would definitely be fluorine due to having a 9 on the nucleus.

@G4M1L 2 года назад

At 22:24 "...this can't be 6 now" (referring to r5c2): actually it couldn't have been 6 since around 10:30, when r6c2 was marked 56 (r5c2 had to be lower than r6c2, which was sitting on an in-between line with the other end at r7c3 having a 9).

@ibdoomed 2 года назад

Yeah, when he boggled it so early he lost my interest. So odd for him to miss something like that.

@miran248 2 года назад

@@ibdoomed At this point i'm convinced it's done intentionally, otherwise we wouldn't be chatting here. :)

@geoff544 2 года назад

Yes, a bit of an oversight there. I found this really enjoyable (of course they are when you can do them!) but a few early 1/2/9 corner marks really helped and it pretty much flowed easily from the deductions around box 4. Thank you TNC.

@emdiar6588 2 года назад

Thankyou! I was screaming that at my laptop for 12 minutes!

@drengskap 2 года назад

Actually, r5c2 can't be 6 after 05:59, once the 9 goes into r7c3, since r6c2 sees both the given 7 and the given 8.

@squizza 2 года назад

My first and only TNC solve. I made slow and steady progress slowly removing the various options. Fantastic puzzle and one I'm very happy to have solved. BTW this was a lot harder than the usual 2/5 difficulty puzzles on LMD.

@onijester56 2 года назад

I mean, from the TotallyNormalCat puzzles I've seen Mark and Simon solve, this seems like what TNC would declare to be a "2/5 difficulty". Maybe one day I can solve such a puzzle.

@sinajakelic 2 года назад

16:16 it wouldn’t, there’s a big black 8 in the same row ;) funny how sometimes you get so into your logic, you miss regular sudoku rules. that is the beauty of this channel, watching you solve instead of just showing us how you solved. great stuff!

@goldenknight578 2 года назад

Simon has a way with finding the most obscure logic in these puzzles, but he kinda sucks at basic sudoku. That's why he tries to avoid it as much as possible when doing a sudoku puzzle. I find it hilarious.

@smylesg 2 года назад

It's hiding behind the diagonal line, making it look like "not 8". Nothing to see here.

@JuanMataCFC 2 года назад

@@goldenknight578 it's not that he sucks at basic Sudoku, it's just that the break-in to variant puzzles is almost always the additional rules as opposed to regular Sudoku. hence the phrase "we shouldn't forget to do Sudoku in a Sudoku puzzle!"

@leeuwevdh 2 года назад

I just noticed the two and seven you put on the between-line in the explanation of the rules were actually correct! As in you put them exactly how they were in the final solution!

@inspiringsand123 2 года назад

Rules: 03:02 Let's Get Cracking: 04:39 Simon's time: 27m15s Puzzle Solved: 31:54 What about this video's Top Tier Simarkisms?! Maverick: 2x (10:42, 10:44) Bobbins: 1x (12:14) Phistomefel: 1x (02:47) And how about this video's Simarkisms?! Ah: 11x (05:49, 07:32, 12:29, 14:47, 14:49, 18:55, 18:57, 20:19, 27:05, 29:37, 30:03) By Sudoku: 10x (05:41, 07:41, 23:39, 26:30, 26:52, 27:25, 28:00, 30:48, 30:50, 30:50) Clever: 4x (19:01, 19:03, 32:23, 32:40) Naked Single: 3x (23:01, 23:10, 29:39) Beautiful: 3x (14:56, 25:21, 27:17) In Fact: 3x (01:16, 06:13, 14:51) Good Grief: 2x (26:36, 27:17) Bother: 2x (12:10, 12:14) The Answer is: 2x (08:47, 11:30) I've Got It!: 2x (21:11, 21:11) Wow: 2x (05:50, 09:02) Goodness: 1x (00:52) Sorry: 1x (07:10) Missing Something: 1x (17:11) I Have no Clue: 1x (09:02) Extraordinary: 1x (04:42) Of All Things: 1x (23:40) Obviously: 1x (04:13) Whoopsie: 1x (06:05) Wake Up: 1x (09:30) Nature: 1x (01:32) Most popular digit this video: Four (72 mentions) Antithesis Battles: High (8) - Low (6) Even (5) - Odd (0) Lower (14) - Higher (13) Highest (3) - Lowest (2) FAQ: Q1: You missed something! A1: That could very well be the case! Human speech can be hard to understand for computers like me! Point out the ones that I missed and maybe I'll learn! Q2: Can you do this for another channel? A2: I've been thinking about that and wrote some code to make that possible. Let me know which channel you think would be a good fit!

@highpath4776 2 года назад

Poss Suduko's in a Suduko Puzzle(s) (the plural prob confused the exact algorithim which has the singular in it

@yvaskhmir 2 года назад

This is - hands down - the best bot I've ever seen in my life.

@mahadunais6050 2 года назад

oh my god this is amazing

@smylesg 2 года назад

23:14 How about "got/has to live"?

@BigAsciiHappyStar 2 года назад

@@yvaskhmir now we need a song-writing bot :)

@Tfin 2 года назад

This took me just under 12 hours... mostly because I fell asleep staring at it. It actually came together fairly easily once I'd had a night's sleep and breakfast.

@markp7262 2 года назад

18:58 finish. Loved this one, very nice logic!

@kevinmartin7760 2 года назад

22:29 R5C2 never could have been 6, ever since 5/6 was entered into R6C2 around 10:30

@thommy4078 2 года назад

Took me about 28 minutes. Getting better and faster in solving these puzzles. As always a very enjoyable puzzle.

@DarkChasm 2 года назад

I love these! not too complex but still makes you break your brain in awe of the rulesset and the layout it's just gorgeous! 💖💖💖💖

@Coyotek4 2 года назад

16:53 ... I liked this one a lot. Nice puzzle!

@GretgorPooper 2 года назад

I love that the way I solved it is almost the same way Simon did, except the order in which we did certain things was different, and I was a lot slower. Really fun puzzle!

@SmartHobbies 2 года назад

I loved the theming with this one with a gentle break in. Nice job Simon with the solve as well.

@minamagdy4126 2 года назад

Simon, if it makes you feel any better, electrons around an atom are paired up because they go one in each direction (never mind that I'm referring to them 'spinning' around themselves rather than 'orbiting')

@littleun1990 2 года назад

I might've done OK on this if I hadn't got mixed up with rules of between lines and thermo... as it was, I got hopelessly stuck

@glennmelven3414 2 года назад

It was weird how Simons example of the between line was correct.

@chrissjackson6488 2 года назад

13:40 worry not! Electrons do not orbit, as the name implies, but rather exist in an orbital cloud of probability in space about a nucleus.

@HelloNotMe9999 2 года назад

15:48 "Seven-Eight-Nine could work..." WROGN! Guess again, Simon.

@bristolrovers27 2 года назад

What an excellent puzzle, mind you with TNC the excellence of the puzzle is rarely if ever in doubt, it's the ability to solve it within a week ☺️ This one was excellent and elegant and not over hard.

@crystalgehrt8861 2 года назад

I'm not sure why I felt like I was struggling uphill for the entire puzzle. I was able to do it, but I didn't feel like it was easy at all. It was interesting to watch the numbers push each other around.

@blake2861 2 года назад

This puzzle is absolutely beautiful. Thank you for featuring this

@douglasplachy4577 2 года назад

Really enjoyed this puzzle. Nice twist to the rule set. Thanks for another great time.

@piarittersporn 2 года назад

At first I didn't think I could solve the puzzle. But with a lot of time and patience I was able to solve this beautiful and very aesthetic puzzle ... and after correcting an error with many steps backwards.

@longwaytotipperary 2 года назад

It might be my allergies speaking - but it looks like a dandelion to me. 💮Totally delightful!

@nadines.1107 2 года назад

I can confirm this from an allergy free perspective.

@longwaytotipperary 2 года назад

@@nadines.1107 😀

@alienrenders 2 года назад

33:23 for me. Really nice puzzle. Had to use some logic I hadn't seen before.

@truscottlee5554 2 года назад

That was the kindest most gentle TotallyNormalCat ever ... thank you for sharing (19:28 for me - that made me feel good) :)

@th.nd.r 2 года назад

Well done!! Great setting and solving. TNC with another elegant banger, and cool conceptually/artistically as well. I like the touch where you explain normal sudoku rules, good for channel newcomers!!!

@stevenape377 2 года назад

Wow, what a beautiful puzzle! I did have to really think about this one. But it is very beautiful. You keep having to use different kinds of logical steps all the time.

@wazzzuuupkiwi 2 года назад

Funnily enough, I got 27mins into thius solve before gettting stuck even though I wrongly assumed that digits on the grey line also followed thermo rules and respected increasing order from the lower circle... :S

@Raven-Creations 2 года назад

13:21 - "is there some really obvious trick here we can do?" Well, you can remove 6 as an option from R5C2, since it has to be lower than a 56. If you put into R4C2 the values that would be forced for each of the options you have in R3C3, you'd get a 456 triple in box 4/C2. This takes the options in R5C3 down to 23, and R5C4 down to 234. There can only be one digit from 2345 on the eastern arm, so it must have at least a 6 on it, so R5C8=789. Very nice from TNC, whose puzzles I usually approach with trepidation.

@GlennBroadway 2 года назад

This is the perfect difficulty for me - slightly harder than a GAS puzzle from the Discord, but not requiring that extra-dimensional leap of logic that comes so easily to Simon. Thanks TNC!

@f0ssig 2 года назад

First puzzle I've seen in a while, and delighted that TNC is the creator :)

@rontyson6118 2 года назад

solved?

@benjaminrealy5661 2 года назад

33:36. Looks at video length. Sooo close. Loved this puzzle.seemed impossible at first but once I started ruling numbers out it kept rolling. A little too much plain sudoku near the end for my liking, but a ruleset like this has great potential

@Gonzalo_Garcia_ 2 года назад

9:51 for me. Nice puzzle!!

@alexanderallison7131 2 года назад

64:55 for me. Found it pretty challenging.

@icepyrox 2 года назад

Proof once again of both TNC and Simon's genius. I'm learning that as much as I see Simon miss at the time he marks something, I am missing much more. I was stumped because I couldn't wrap my head around the cardinal ("diameter") spokes forcing there to be a middling and high digit on them. And then the ending took me a moment because I had so many pencil marks I couldn't see the "Naked singles" as clearly. I wonder if I should have just deleted all my marks once I got the atom done and started again with the sudoku finish... So 94 minute solve with the logic help of Simon explaining the cardinal implications.

@WheatGrinding 2 года назад

It took me a few minutes to spot how to start but once I did it ended up rolling pretty smoothly from there, 19:55 was my time.

@modestclick 2 года назад

58:34, I loved the logic of this one, really got the hang of those between lines after a while

@Southern1581Trainz 2 года назад

61:31 for me, could've been better but this was my first time actually attempting one of the puzzles on this channel. It was an absolute blast to solve, took me a bit to break in beyond the first few "gimme" digits but I enjoyed it greatly, thank you for sharing the puzzle!

@jasono8783 2 года назад

A clean 19:40 for this one! It's been a minute since I did a betweenlines, I was shocked at how well I did haha

@dinidini4000 2 года назад

22:20 that 6 had me being so sad the whole time there was never a world that was 6

@heywingliu9085 2 года назад

15:40 for me! Quite easy!

@HeroDarkStorn 2 года назад

We get it too Simon.... When you solve a puzzle, we feel to be in the presence of a genius.

@groovinhooves 2 года назад

Useful Charts just happens to have a very good treatise on the periodic table with an interesting variant format which in many ways better answers, "periodicity of what, exactly?"

@davidh.4944 2 года назад

It's the second one in a row that I thought I could handle going in, but forced me to stare at it for ages without getting anywhere, and eventually to give up entirely. If only I could have spotted that row 5 restriction. I hate it when everything pivots on locating a single key move like that.

@srwapo 2 года назад

21:59 The numbers going from r5c2 to r3c3 messed me up, I assumed they had to increase, had to restart a few minutes into the solve.

@emilywilliams3237 2 года назад

Really enjoyed this - I did try the puzzle myself, before watching, then watched a bit until I was convinced I was either 1) on the right track or 2) needed a bit of a hint from the ever-obliging Simon, and then pausing the video again while I carried on by myself for a while, then repeat as needed. Very fun puzzle. I like the between lines constraint, my brain seems to "get it." Thanks for this video and for all of the entertaining and fascinating content on this channel.

@whatwouldnetwork9441 2 года назад

Did anyone notice that the 2 and the 7 he showed as an example were correctly placed at the end of the puzzle?

@danielwcrompton 2 года назад

Great puzzle TNC!

@reez0_0 2 года назад

hi simon! just thought i would point out that the Blue snowball mic you have preforms best when you have the actual mic part pointed to your mouth. what that means is that where on the mic it has the word blue, followed by metal mesh is where you would want to aim to be talking into. hope this helps for better sound quality!

@RichSmith77 2 года назад

I feel if ever a puzzle were to have Schrödinger cells, this ought to have been it. What with the quantum behaviour of electrons and all. 😀

@mahadunais6050 2 года назад

that was just beautiful, love watching you doing these but can u explain what a naked single and other terms are?

@logiciananimal 2 года назад

Another lesson in how sometimes constraints are a good thing.

@saiyanprince989 2 года назад

As soon as you placed 7 in box 4, could have gone around puzzle CCW to fill in rest of 7s.

@kstartwallison 2 года назад

Really, really enjoyable!! :D

@przemekmajewski1 2 года назад

Done in 30 :D nice!

@manfredwitzany2233 2 года назад

It is an oxygen atom. But it seems to be on the way being ionisized, as the electron 5 has just lost its bounding to the nucleus.

@wanderlustwarrior 2 года назад

I wasn't giving it serious attention on my first attempt, and when I realized that, I decided to restart it at a later point. When I did, I got it in 18:39

@JalebJay 2 года назад

25:34 Felt more spider webby than nuclear

@boydegg 2 года назад

32:25 ... tricky for me but got there in the end.

@seantaft3853 2 года назад

My guess is this is TNC saying "Hey, I can make sudoku that are somewhat approachable."

@pelahnar4 2 года назад

13:30 Fortunately (or something) electrons don't revolve around the nucleus. They do weird probability stuff instead. So there's no hint to how to solve the puzzle from that

@RichSmith77 2 года назад

Missed opportunity for some actual Schrödinger cells for once?

@jamesgillam6478 2 года назад

Such a smart puzzle, I solved this literally move for move in the same way for virtually all of it 😂 very well planned. Just took me twice as long haha

@BillLamoreaux 2 года назад

So close to 460k Subs!

@hepenypacker 2 года назад

Anyone else were on automatic by placing numbers in order between the two known numbers in the circle like a thermometer? Caught myself a few times. Tricky. Very nice puzzle

@emdiar6588 2 года назад

I was going to write an essay on why, though it may be helpful to imagine the structure of an atom as analogous to a planetary system, it is not really accurate to describe the electron as "orbiting" the nucleus of its atom, and that they are notional "particles" of negatively charged energy which have no position unless measured, that occupy fields of potential blah blah blah Schrödinger blah ... but RU-vid comments is hardly the place for quantum mechanics, or my amateurish grasp of the subject. ("If you think you understand quantum mechanics, you don't understand quantum mechanics.")

@stegra5960 2 года назад

Ugh. I was utterly baffled as to why I couldn't see the way forward after filling in ¾ of the grid then found a basic between line error in the first few placements. 55 mins wasted.

@stevesebzda570 2 года назад

[@22:33] I think that NOT being a 6 in-between was already available [[Edit: correction there COULDN'T BE A 6 in the circle with "9" ON THE END and only a "5,6" in-between. THAT WAS ALREADY AVAILABLE Even as far back as @20:10 . And BEFORE, actually ]]

@laurenzpeacock3234 2 года назад

I'm usually not bothered if you miss stuff but this time it was quite hard to not scream at the screen 😭😅

@countknersis700 2 года назад

Whenever you do one of their puzzles.. Their puzzles? I did not know that.

@mudscuffer 2 года назад

34:57 for me, I'm happy with that

@AndreAy1975 2 года назад

Solved it with help from the video.

@gerdkah6064 2 года назад

16:14 - 16:50 ignoring the given 8 and then blaming the given digits for being of no use .. _finefine_ ^v^

@JohnRandomness105 2 года назад

Atoms are 3D. Is there a 3D version of Sudoku?

@adrianhead6272 2 года назад

Completed in 15m27s.

@PathOfShrines 2 года назад

Fun! 25:43

@screambmachine 2 года назад

got stuck after putting two corner 9s around the 8.. and that was it :(

@DwarfInBlues 2 года назад

Grand!

@SjorsHoukes 2 года назад

11:34 - Simon deduces that a 6 in r5c2 is impossible, but happily keeps it in 😄

@RichSmith77 2 года назад

Because he doesn't see it's always impossible. He only sees it's impossible in the case that there's a 5 in r4c2, i.e. for a specific, non-general reason. (56 pair eliminating both from r6c2). The reason it is actually impossible (that r6c2 would have no fill because of between line rules) isn't something Simon notices for another 10 minutes.

@SjorsHoukes 2 года назад

@@RichSmith77 If you look at his pencil mark in r6c2, it's clear that a 6 in r5c2 is always impossible. Simon does notice this, but fails to draw the conclusion that the circle can only have 4 or 5.

@RichSmith77 2 года назад

@@SjorsHoukes I totally agree it's clear a 6 is impossible. You, I and most of his audience noticed. I don't believe Simon noticed though, otherwise he would have removed the 6 pencilmark. All Simon was interested in though, at this time, was that a 5 and a 6 in r r45c2 made r6c2 impossible. He's not aware of the reason why 6 is always impossible. He should see it, but for some reason even he probably couldn't explain, he hasn't noticed.

@Max16hr 2 года назад

75:08, but glad to solve :)

@badimus 2 года назад

Up and atom!

@pedroscoponi4905 2 года назад

Damn, this one was 100% doable for me but my brain just could _not_ work with that in-betweensies rule to save my life. Kept confusing what was restricting what ಠ_ಠ

@balkthor 2 года назад

Anyone else's brain struggling too much to differentiate thermometer rules from in-between rules? I just can't seem to separate the two.

@reaumwingblade5783 2 года назад

2 hours in and I broke the puzzle somehow, got locked up on 7s... not sure where I went wrong so I suppose I lost that one. not spending another 3 hours trying to work out where It all went wrong

@-42-47 2 года назад

Ahh, completed it in 38 minutes. Having solved it I figured that Simon would be relatively* slow on this one because of his unhealthy aversion towards pencilmarking which was very powerful in this puzzle. *Not relative to my solve as Simon is by far the better solver but relative to the difficulty of the puzzle.