Ryunosuke is the luckiest lawyer. He gets the right jurors for his cases. In case 5 he got a stereoscope-enthusiast, communication officer, surgeon, and a ballistic expert-tourist. This was out of 6 million people of London. I guess he passed down that luck to Phoenix.
Actually, England's population in 1900 (year of DGS 1 and DGS 2 England cases) was about 41.5 million, and London's population was estimated to be a little more than 5 million people. So Ryuunosuke was even luckier. No wonder why Phoenix Wright wins almost every trial by a turnabout...
It is clearly implied that the jury selection was rigged in the game. But by whom? It wasn’t clear yet. One would think it’s Lord Stronghart but that doesn’t seem too logical.
"Uh, that isn't a way to judge a man guilty of a crime." "I'm sorry, could you repeat that for me? I can't hear well, you know." "(Ah, this is gonna be tough.)"
@@badpixel3248 I kind of hoped that he would actually play any role in GAA 2, but we didn't appear there. I guess this is because initially there was supposed to be three games instead of one, so they deleted one-third of the potential cases.
These sections are always funny. I think it's because the jurors are so self-centred and narrow-minded that seeing poor Ryunosuke try to reason with them is always hilarious. "PLEASE tell me you're not Vilen Borshevik..."
@@sonjaa.martin6269 you say that but Bruce Fairplay was the foreman of the jury in that case so it's conceivable that the other witness who testified alongside him would also be a juror
Notice that the first part repeats six times while getting more complex, to represent the six jurors that tell you their reasoning while you start to think about how to make this work. The next part repeats four times, representing the four jurors you have to convince.
i love how it feels like there is a back-and-forth in the music. really fitting since this plays while Runo has to argue with the jury (or i guess make them argue with each other lmao)
I think someone else even noted that the part at the beginning actual repeats six times for the six jurors. The part that goes 'dun dun dun dun, dundundundun dun'
@@marcosseverini5297 Yeah, it's when the juror doctor says that a ballistics expert is needed to determine why there was no bullet in Sholmes, and not-Borshevik says that he's an expert in firearms.
I still can't believe that the jurors are _actually_ randomly chosen. It just seems like too amazing of a coincidence that you have just the people you need to figure out the case every time.
A potential TGAA3 (which has slim chances of happening considering the second game's budget but let's overlook that) could develop this into a storyline. Instead of shaking it off as a wacky Ace Attorney coincidence, they could actually provide an explanation as to why the jury always seems to be meticulously picked specifically for each trial
@@HyLion i mean chronicles sold 500k copies which is a lot considering it doesnt have phoenix wright in the name. i would like to see tgaa3 be about apollo justice's ancestor and have arsene lupin in it
I can only see it partway. Situations like Beppo's boss in the 3rd case or Quinby and Joan for the cases involving the Garrideb household, I could see being an attempt to rip in the prosecutions favor if that was a thing secretly happening at that time But situations where their connections or knowledge aren't relevant until later on, while an extreme coincidence and insanely unlikely, I can't see as being deliberate by the folks in charge of the process (such as the stereoscope guy) Unless the madlads are trying to pull strings and rig things in Runo's favor when convenient or something
yeah I can't believe they didn't address this in the game. For the longest time I thought that was Stronghart fixing the juries .. but I could never work out why ..
In another video someone mentioned how this track repeats itself several times signifying each witness's account of the incident, until it culminates in one big damning statement (like the final nail in Naruhodo's case). Then at the end the song hangs in suspense, almost as if it's waiting for Naruhodo's response. One of my favorite courtoom tracks ever!
It repeats 6 times, once for every jury, then it gets slightly modified after three, having 6 divided into 2 equal parts maybe symboling justice and jury beeing unbiased, and then that culmination might be the verdict itself
Yeah, I remember! The first part repeats 6 times, as each of the six jurors state their reasoning, then the second segment plays twice as Naruhodou points out the contradictory statements, and the last part plays as the jurors change their verdict, and so on.
It repeats six times (representing the number of jurors), followed by a bridge (representing Ryunosuke's rebuttal), then melody repeats four more times (representing the number of jurors that vote "not guilty" to continue the trial).
I really wish we had a part when we need to expose an argument ourselves, using evidence of course but also arranging facts into a theory to accuse/innocent someone
I loved that line. It came completely out of nowhere but it was true, those statements didn't contradict each other at all, they corroborated your claim
The jurors are unironically some of my favourite characters in the series 😭 lady typewriter and telegraph, mister stereoscope, mister crazy knifes, the russian revolutionaire, the surgeon and the corn eating girl are so unhinged lol
Now this mechanic is simply great! It makes trials more fun and dynamic. I wonder why couldn't we have something like this in AA4 or after, I mean, it makes a big deal about the Jurist System.
Might be because of both the time and cultural difference. Since DGS 1 + 2 are both set mainly set in Victorian Britain, the legal systems probably had some difference. That or they just didn't think of the idea around AA4, which is far more likely XD
The main reason was the original creator, Shu Takumi, didn't really make any of the AA games after Apollo Justice. He didn't want to make more games around Wright because he thought that Wright's story was concluded. Corporate, being corporate, didn't care and made them anyways. The creator would only come back for the Layton crossover game and then the Great Ace Attorney series.
Well only Case 4 of Apollo Justice had the Juror System in place, and it was more of a test run than anything, so the Closing Argument probably wouldn't have made an appearance. Plus, imagine coding all that on the DS! With its limited space!
If I'm correct the reason why the jurists appeared in Apollo Justice is because Japan was considering at the time reviving the system. This also explains that after turnabout succession we never hear about them, because the jurists didn't come back to Japan
That feeling of tension and intensity. The feeling that of you mess up, everything you worked for is gonna come crashing down. This song is excellent because it exemplifies such a strong and direct emotion.
The Jury's Assertions: There was no one else inside the coach, so it could've only been him. Four Passengers, an earning of 20 Pence...The driver's memory is trustworthy. That Guy stabbed the guy sitting next to him like this ...! Not even I would do that! I simply came to a logical conclusion based on every statement thus far. The Fellows in the coachmen's guild are honest. Our fee is always four pence! I can't believe he stabbed a man who was already on the floor!
Clash! Juror 2: Four Passengers, an earning of 20 pence... the driver's memory is trustworthy. Juror 5: The Fellows in the coachmen's guild are honest. Our fee is always four pence! There is clearly a contradiction between these two statements!
It's true that according to the testimony so far... On the night of the incident, the crime scene had *four* passengers. Furthermore, according to the driver himself, his earnings were *20 pence*. On the other hand, Juror 5 said the following: The omnibus's fare is always *4 pence*. Yet, if that's the case... A rather unnatural contradiction is born. Four pence a passenger. Four passengers. How much would the earnings be then? Right. The sums *{16 pence}* don't match up. Four pence is left over. That's just enough for *a single passenger*. Therefore, during the night on that omnibus... It was possible for *one more passenger* to be on board!
I like this theme because its so *emotional* Like the music is exaggerated, it gives the sense of "bias and common sense is at play here, you better be careful, and persuade their emotions!"
Maybe it's because that's when the jury suddenly seemed more intimidating? Before that point the jury included nice old people who were hard of hearing, a guy who really loved stereoscopes, etc. Then in the Dobinbough/Harebrayne case, five of the six jurors are (or at least look like) distinguished members of society. They actually give serious reasoning behind their thoughts and don't joke around as much, iirc. Not to mention, Harebrayne's case also just had higher stakes because of the Great Exhibition, him being Barok's friend, the connection to the Professor case, etc.
@@emliu5000 Not to mention that these jurors had a lot more ... Rational intelligence in a sense. They know their profession well. The magician and scientist both recognized Drebber (who himself is an expert in both engineering and stage magic slight of hand). The retired police officer knew Dr. Sithe as well, giving another perspective on Scotland Yard from years ago before things got so corrupt. And - of course - the female juror returns in case 4 as the wife of the missing Daley Vigil, setting her up as more than just a one time juror but an actual recurring character instead. Oh, and there was the foreman and the random small child with the corn, too lmao
@@l.n.3372 The foreman off this case was the one i fel most serious. I dunno but between the always stern face, how he pointed at Ryonosuke with the newspaper, he felt much harsher and no nonsense than his predecessors.
@@lsebastian9086 He was definitely a bit stern and no nonsense. I also remember him for his newspaper. He was reading a back article in the paper during the summation examination. I like to believe he was reading the article about the lost cat. Ryunosuke himself can check the back of the paper and see there's an article about a missing cat lol
Honestly shout out to the final jurors they were very competent they actually listened to both sides and had a reasonable reason to cause their 1 just 1 summation examination which was you simultaneously called out a coroner and some random waxwork (at the time) due to absurdity and no real proof but all were very willing to reason with you during the examination and it’s one of the simplest S-E’s due to their cooperative behavior to you
Bruce/Oscar Fairplay deserves more love in the fandom. One of the only witnesses in the series we falsely accuse, and yet manages to be one of the fairest jurors.
1.25倍速で聞いてみてほしいです。通常よりも危機感がすさまじく、また違った印象があると思います。 I would like you to listen to it at 1.25x speed. The sense of crisis is tremendous and different than normal.
When my girlfriend and I played through the game I kept on going ‘hey jury, I’m pretty sure the defendant’s guilty, you should all cast your votes!’ ‘cause summation examinations are so fun, and this music is SO GOOD!
Theres something about the tension in the violins that really sells this as a last chance for ryunosuke. Then when they play some notes twice and do that descent in the end… crazy.
@@vikas_room Closing Argument here supposed to be Presto Cross-examination indeed. Because you're on a blink of getting a guity verdict. If you can't turn the case around at this point, you'll get a guilty verdict 100%
“God summation examinations are so useless and antiquated” “...but most of the trials I’ve had have gotten the correct verdict solely because of them-“ “So useless”
0:45 I like this part this part of the theme so much. It represents your emotions at the moment you don’t understand what to do and who to pit together
I really like this mechanic and hope that they incorporate it in future games. I really like that you are pitting the jurors potentially against each other with their own words. Though they come to one conclusion to say the client is guilty how each got to that conclusion is so different and is very evident the first time you do this. All you have to do is find where that difference is pit their logic against each other and put doubt in their minds since all you need to do is keep the trial going.
I'm hyped for these games finally coming to the US complete with an English Dub. And for those asking the compilation is called The Great Ace Attorney Chronicles and will consist of both games, and releases July 27th this year, and it'll be for Switch, PS4, and Steam however only the Switch version will get a physical release.
Spoilers for TGAA2 I'm still mad that the last two chapters of the second game didn't have this mechanic at all, it was fun. It's doubly maddening considering that a jury would have been the perfect fit to bring down a corrupt judge.
It was supposed to be a closed case, after all the defendant was an important member of the law system. They could not afford to have public opinion in the matter because it had to be a secret. Would've been cool to have important members of the polotic wormd as the jury, but knowing that person they would've been either bribed or biased against the defendant.
@@LinkcarioX To be fair, the jury could have been a Matt Engarde deal where you present evidence that makes it seem like they were about to be doublecrossed, so they'd turn on him. Would have been an extra layer of odds stacked against you.
Fun fact: You know you can tell if a male or female is speaking by how high or low the text tone is (male being lower and female being higher). For some reason, Quinby Altamont and Juror 6 switched tones so she had the lower male tone and he had the higher feminine one.
I'm rly sad they invented this fun fresh gameplay mechanic only to (SPOILERS) Not use it at all in the last two chapters, and only once in each chapter before it of the final game. The first game had 6 individual closing arguments and it was my favorite thing, so while I understand why there wasnt a jury at the end, it still hurts
Well...the reason this happened was a rather tragic one in a way. Due off how rough things went for reception off first game in spite off acclaim...their budget aparently got cut like Gumshoe's monthly salary....so theyw ere unable to use it fully in sequel. Of course they were able to turn things for advantage but man..
@@Goomenstein Well, im guessing that at certain point they feared they would had pushed their luck too far. That and im feeling also that part off the mood from case 4 onwards things would had felt a bit different.
Judicial findings: Juror 1: it's clear in my mind, the girl is guilty. The knife is enough to prove it. The fact there's no witnesses means nothing Juror 2: she seems like such a delicate young lady, the thought of her committing murder is troubling... Juror 3: the victim was found right outside her flower shop yes?..now if he died elsewhere.. Juror 4: I've been to that flower shop myself. A lovely little place, and the flowers are even lovelier Juror 5: honestly...I couldn't give a rats behind. I'm just here to sip my brandy and enjoy the chaos Juror 6: as a merchant myself I'm quite familiar with merchants row, always bustling with people at any time.
HOLD IT! (To Juror 5) *slams fist on pedestal* "Sir! This woman's life is on the line! How can you in good conscience be so indiffrent to these proceedings?!"
"For the record orient boy, I did not volunteer for this tripe. I was forced to attend for the sake of "imparting common kbowledge". As someone who is far from a commoner I feel insulted that my time is wasted by such an obvious affair"
@@codyadams5129 _Well, I suppose we can't count on his moral values to keep his attention. But wait. Something about what he said that seemed interesting_ "If it not too much trouble to ask, what exactly do you mean when you say that this is an "obvious affair"?"
"Of course it's not obvious to a foreigner like you, but that girls trouble. You can guess it by her name, "petunia bloome"..anyone who is someone in this city knows of the bloome name, and her father, Thorne bloome. CEO of bloome Gardens. London's biggest supplier of fresh veggies on the market. The girl comes from wealth, never having to work for anything. The only reason she has her own shop is daddies influence, why, daddy never let's her go anywhere without an escort". (The last part about the escort is what ryunosuke asks Juror 5 to amend his statement to. It's up to you to see what statement it clashes with)
Someone please coreograph a six-person dance to this and call it "The Jury" or something. Like, how awesome that would be? Update: I'm doing it. Kind of. I think. Will tell you more lmao
I actually would’ve preferred this theme to be the allegro cross examination theme. It’s just something about the summation examination music that gets me all riled up
I do have envidence that shows Mr.Wright and Mr.Naruhodou have met together at the court. And it's here: m.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-aGQ7OEXG4oM.html
Please don't read comments!! I just spoiled myself I haven't even finished chapter 4 and I know things I shouldn't, but I just wanted to hear this great theme!
I am sad they don't comment about this in the extras in the game. Sounds like a repetitive, whatever theme but it goes perfectly with the jury setting.
@@andrystein03 naw i believe they can make stories like that, just like that layton crossover but the thing is, this naruhodo stories just didn't sell that well in japan so..
Juror 1 (Bruce Fairplay) - This song sucks, we're not even evil. This song make us look like the culprits! If only if you can prove me wrong by pitting us against each other. Juror 2 (woman) - Me too, im not evil, im just an innocent girl. This song should be deleted and should be thrown into the archives! Juror 3 (Guy) - the one who uploaded this was an American. The americans are always in their own rights. Juror 4 (Quinby Altamont) - Our company ain't associated with music, we're associated with gas. Gas! Juror 5 (Laborer) - well not to be rude, this indeed suits us jurors for handling our verdicts. We're the people that you need to handle than the judge because the verdicts are handled by us. Juror 6 (old man) - the americans can't be involved with this because they're innocent in my opinion. Just let alone do what they do!
