The Old World Of New Warhammer Fantasy - Much Good But GW Shows A Lack Of Care For The IP 

Killing off warhammer fantasy was painful. God i loved that setting. I'll never forgive GW for the end times.

Foot Knights have been part of Bretonnian lore, even after the ye olden days of 3rd Edition. They were mentioned in the Knights of Bretonnia Omnibus, and specifically it was cited that they'd be the ones manning castle walls during sieges, bellowing orders to the Men-At-Arms and maintaining their morale. They're still an exceedingly rare sight in most parts of Bretonnia, but the Dukedom of Montfort still made use of them, as Foot Knights had an easier time navigating the Grey Mountains than their mounted counterparts would. So I don't mind Foot Knights being a unit in the Old World. But yes, the lack of diverse heraldry is concerning, since the bright colorful and dare I say, diverse livery is a major appeal to Bretonnia, showing off that they're not just soldiers in uniform (like what's commonly seen in the Empire), but rather a gathering of noble warriors, each one a special character in his own right.

They gave lore justifications for having both uniform and individual heraldry for Bretonnian knights. Essentially, the knights can either show fealty to their duke by wearing his heraldry or display their own colours. The new lore suggests that crusading armies will have a mix of knights from across Bretonnia, and therefor have a mix of colours for that reason. Of course, the real reason is for creating a valid option for those that find it too difficult to paint mixed heraldry.

In one hand I do appreciate their good will of reviving old IP, in other hand its how GW take care their IP worrying me how it will fare in the future

In my opinion, Bretonia and Tomb Kings were chosen for this as they do not exist in AoS. They want the game to have its own identity, and probably don't want to pull the minis they have spent years replacing back out of storage to compete with the AoS ones.

I can’t wait for the insane prices of the re-released old fantasy kits.

One of the first units announced for TOW was crazy immersion breaking, the Kislev ice guard. They not only forgot that that Kislev already had a 'monarch's bodyguard' unit, but for some reason they are also one of the only mortal races with magic weapons.

Brettonia and Tomb Kings were great firsts since they didn’t really have Age of Sigmar equivalents

I know the skeletons werent an issue for you, but i would like to call attention thier scaling problem. These models still have the massive bulky bones that dont jive with the more modern renditions of the undead. As an example, a skeletons head in this package is as big as a bretonian knights head with its helmet on. It wouldnt of taken too much tweaking from GW to fix the scaling. But instead, they just whipped out the old printing trays with no changes and said "here, just print this again. Theyll love it!". Just seems lazy.

GW actually adressed iconography issue in Bretonnia. They claim that they changed it because people felt overwhelmed with creating unique colors for each knight.

I beg your pardon, but GW did feature Bretonnian armies with knights taking on the heraldry of their baron/duke back in the old days, while providing supporting lore captions for this sometimes practice. I will of course buy the new box, gleeful with a multiplicity of different heraldry ideas to paint on each knight.

The Rock Fetish is GW Channeling Commander Riker's habit of Putting his leg up on anything

I highly suspect that if we ever get Araby they won't be a faction of absolutely decadent Sultans with enormous harems of lolis and a thriving slavetrade of Pygmies from the Southlands. And this worries me for the future of the franchise.

so they blew up the world i cared about, tried to sell me other crap and upped the price on that crap, and now they are crawling back... with the models even more expensive, and showing a lack of knowledge in why i liked the bretonnians? sod off, GW...

Yes and no. Yes the heraldy makes no sense as it was always portrayed as a big mixture of everything and it made sense. No as Engllish do used some foot knights in battles. Remember Bretonne is a mixture of 100 years war France and England. Thats why You get now a twohanded footknights. Also as someone from Poland I can assure You also the Winged Hussars fought on foot when needed. Not with lance but rather with musket and whatever weapon was suitable at the moment, On top of this in Warhammer siege we had foot knights even in the past editions of WHFB. The rant is unnescesary.

What I genuinely don't understand about old world is that GW set it inbetween Magnus the Pious and Karl Franz, meaning that most characters that got a boost of popularity through Total War won't be there, and no Magnus or Asavar Kul for people who know the old lore. EDIT : checked again it's BEFORE Magnus, my bad, still my point is the same

GW: "we screw over our customers and don't ever fix an issue with the game/faction. Why does no one buy it? "

On one hand it does feel nice to see the Old World back again, but at the same time there’s still a sour taste in people’s mouths from the End Times happening and until that event gets removed from existence I don’t see many people coming back even with this.

0:33 Arch, Bretonia it is France, but with humans, remember the lore..

Isn't this set like 400 years before the previous old world? A lot can change in that time. Maybe it was cool to wear the Barons colours for young knights, maybe poorer knights fought on foot, or knights that decided to lead the infantry? As far as I'm aware Knights of the Realm will still be core, you can still do an entire army of mounted Knights... so they aren't an off-brand Empire.

I forsaw the death of warhammer when the Empire's magic item selection went from around 34 to about 9. It became clear they wanted to spend less time and money on old world via streamlining it. And while I will say the AOS models are high quality, I think they lack identity. Back in the day, if I saw a Warhammer fantasy model, I could tell that it was a warhammer model. Now the models lack a general setting tone, and the individual armies lack coherent themes. Wood elves now have half tree dudes that wear insects like jet packs. High elves now have kangaroo-lizard cavalry. The orks, sorry "urruks" look like they've all been redesigned to look like the white orc from The Hobbit movies.

In the Knights of the Grail book for WFRP they mentioned that knights can become part of another knight or lords household. That's when they wear their colours instead of their own. There's even art from way back when showing knights in matching colours. So it's a choice of if you want the variety of knights of the realm or a uniform household knight force, which would denote a very powerful lord or baron with many knights sworn to him personally.

Who expects GW to completely bomb the Old World?

The dismpunted knights are not that bad, i know lore wose the knight and the mount are almost one , but the knights of Bretonnia are not stupid, they know in situations such as a tunnel, or inside a house they will have to fight ok foot, so if a battlefield demands it, they wont let their pride go against the better judgment of their commander who they are swore to obey

The VC player in me is happy. Then I remember its GW. Oh well, some of the hobby stores will have this stuff in a year or two.

That drab colour scheme makes the Bretonnians look more like an Imperial Knightly Order than the chevaliers of The Lady. Even if you're putting the knights in a common colour scheme (to represent allegiance to a common liege lord perhaps), at least individualise them with their heraldry. And the paint scheme on those Pegasus Knights does not do those charming old models justice. Pegusi in dove grey. That's what comes of hiring fans of the product, rather than people with a hinterland beyond it.

Dead games should stay dead. Not being reanimated into a zombie for extra cash.

Sadly I wanted a 9th edition that retconned out the awful end times. Can't see myself buying models and getting invested in the setting as long as End Times still happens.

I just don't understands GW hate-on for Skaven. Their one truly original faction lol.

Foot Knights lorewise make perfect sense as a unit to me as something that’s just realistic, of course you’d have knights on foot, they’re expert melee fighters who’ve been trained from birth, and if they refuse to fight on foot, that must make sieges, mountain fighting and frankly any difficult terrain an interesting prospect. But don’t call them Foot Knights, call them Dismounted Knights.

GW still wants too much for every box. 3D printers are so cheap now, they can cost the same as a GW box and sometimes do. It makes no sense at all to me to even contemplate buying their product.

Knights aren't necessarily MAJOR lords. Most of them only rule small villages.

As far as I can see/know. This is another resurrected corpse of an IP that we all love/care about.

Warhammer Fantasy. A grounded world... We ARE talking about the same world with a billions-strong civilization of atompunk cannibal ratmen living in the underworld who haven't yet conquered anything because they are such fuckups that Starscream from the Transformers would turn his nose up at them? The world where armies of orcs & goblins roam literally every bloody where with infinite resources and numbers despite having less social skills than a Stone Age human tribe? The world where the elves live on a literal shattered island only kept stable and above the water by epic-level magic? The world where lizardmen with stone weapons can cut a steel-armored knight AND his horse in half with one stroke? The world where tooth decay may legitimately be due to parasitic worms living in your mouth? The world with swamp-dwelling giant octopuses and leeches the size of anacondas? The world where dwarfs build beer-powered gyrocopters and can create volcanic eruptions by banging on a rune-encrusted anvil? The world where ancient frogs the size of small ogres are the last living remnants of a time when god-like beings shaped the world? Warhammer Fantasy was NEVER low fantasy. The EMPIRE was low fantasy. The rest of the world was high fantasy as (censored)!

ah bretonia, it's an army of horses. you have a bunch of hoity toity nobles in the heaviest armory just so they get that sweet sweet 2+ save and then have the horses beat the ever loving crap out of everything from chaos knights to dragons. while the knights with all their lances do precisely jack.

Instead of foot knights why didnt they just buff the men at arms give them better models and then have units of levy spearmen and levy militia?. Also one of those foot knights is defintly a women sculpt

If it doesn't recognise bloodbath at orcs drift, terror of the leichmaster and the magnificent sven I'm not interested

Want the Old World feel simple Kings of War and OPR Regiments.

As a former TK/Bret (only) player, GW waited way too long to ever lure me back in. They were so insistent for so long that AoS was the one and only fantasy setting that I eventually came around to take them at their word. I got over it, and have no desire to go back. The massive price hike makes it even more certain that I'll never collect again.

Wish they would just bring back original warhammer fantasy, the lore and setting was far better than this or garbage age of sigmar.

8:08 WAIT? What if the bretonian knights are in a siege? Surly they don't try to fight on horseback on the ramparts.

They acknowledge the heraldry issue in the very recent interview. TL;DR They know about the background of each KOTR, but this is just easier to paint. Doesn't meant it's a good thing, but the rest of the interview talks about how they plan to do things in the Age of Legends, especially issues like gunpowder tech, exiled Bretonnians, etc.

Huge Bretonnian fanboy here. I don't think the Knights being uniform is all *that* big of a deal because you could just handwave it away as them being a Bretonnian order of crusaders. But on the other hand, the varied knights of many beautiful colors are the centerpiece of Bretonnian identity, so I get your gripe there. While I am more irritated by the foot knights, that's still not really as big of an issue for me, seeing as there are more situations besides being unhorsed when a knight might have to accept fighting afoot. On top of that, there was the Vow of Humility in the old rulebook that let a knight fight on foot, but there werent really any models to represent that. That said, it would certainly have been better if GW had made some models of the Foot Squires that appeared in the Total War game. Much more appropriate tbh. My main real complaint is that the big Enchantress model is astride her horse like some wanton Wood Elf harlot rather than sidesaddle like a trueborn noble lady. Regarding the book you mentioned bringing in 21st century politics, I know its being written by Graham McNeil, so I was already not really planning on checking it out. Having heard what you said about it, I am definitely not reading that shit.

While at least Fantasy is returning to some extent I still don't like that they veered towards a prequel when they could have just brought back regular fantasy by just retconning that shit stain called the end times, maybe it's just me but I don't feel like the old world will have much longevity, like why should I care about this prequel when I already know that the end times are still canon and it all means nothing? I can understand how someone who likes the tabletop would be excited but as someone who's only interested in the books, games and lore I see the old world as more of a missed opportunity then anything. Also the Skaven are the undisputed best race, not making them a launch race is a big mistake Yes-yes.

Yeah, I got into the hobby after they hit the ol’ exterminatus to Fantasy so the idea that they dredge up the still decomposing corpse from the depths is absolutely bananas. How terrible is Sigmar doing if this is even a consideration?

Why are people complaining? We are getting the best game GW ever made back with pretty great rules and 9 fully supported armies and rules for 7 more armies for free which you can use any minis you want - all on day 1.

I don’t like some of the looks of the new models. I think AoS could very well bleed into the Old World models. Biggest reason being Cities of Sigmar and how the OG Empire/Dark Elf/ and whatever is left of the High and Wood Elf lines.

GW said the Grail Knights will still be painted by as each having their own colours and heraldry. Also, you don't have to copy the 'Eavy Metal team guys.

The heavy infantry should just be Mercenaries or bastard sons of nobility. I think that would solve the lore issue here, like they need to earn their horse in battle to become recognized and accepted in Bertonnian noble society. Not sure if that would fly because I wasn’t that big into them and I started WHFB right before they blew it up.

On dismounted knights I have three words: Crecy, Poitiers, Agincourt. As Bretonnia is HYW era France it will include the Angevin empire.

End Times still happen. I'm not interested until that is thrown out and an apology is given.

I have to disagree on the foot knights take, Bretonnia as a faction was incredibly stagnant with what you could build an army with simply because knights were the only real hitter and were used the same no matter the army composition and player, having a single solid infantry option is all too welcome and honestly feels like something that shouldve been kept from early additions moving forward. Noone wants Bret to start adopting firearms, but it always felt like the faction was left behind due to not having new units added, even if they could make it make sense within the faction it never happened. Foot knights just need a "vow of empathy" label slapped on them and now they are knights who think that empathy just means walking on the same ground peasants do is showing compassion for them, or they are defenders of the temples and to do this they have forgone their horse, because its was always really silly that Brett apparently brings its horses inside houses when fighting. I wholey agree with the color scheme though, thats a big part of the faction aesthetic and is a pretty major oversight.

The uniform heraldry was used historicaly for an order, so it is plausible to have those regiments too. But on a big campain of a King or so, they would have looked more diverse. So both is historicaly rooted and should be an option for the player to decide.... regarding the foot knights, England was known for their knights on foot fighting style. So historicaly plausible.... no problem here

Knights of the Realm are NOT major nobility. They are minor nobles who form the lowest rung of Bretonnia's landed nobility. Their domains are very small (rarely having more than just a single village to lord over) and they serve the titled lords of Bretonnia's high nobility (barons, counts, dukes etc.) who rule much larger domains. So while they technically are lords (and do have their own heraldry, as rightfully pointed out), they aren't really lords of much. They are minor nobility, not major ones. Knights Errant are generally younger members of Bretonnia's nobility who have yet to proof themselves. Unlike the Knights of the Realm, they are not a seperate class or rank of nobility. Both members of major and minor noble families will be expected to serve as Knight Errant at some point in their life. The son of a duke and the son of a simple landed knight will both be Knights Errant despite being from families with very different feudal ranks. Both Knights Errant and Knights of the Realm are generally in service to a higher-ranking knight or a titled lord. Even lords themselves often serve greater lords all the way up the feudal pyramid until you get to the Royarch, who himself serves the Lady of the Lake.

I never understood the "multi colored Bretonnians are hard to paint". Is it that hard to put new colors on your palette?

I agree with Arch gor the most part, except, in the old lore, Katarin was not the singular Lore of Ice caster. Kislev had 2 lores of magic: the Lore of Ice and the lore of Hags. All Kislevite women who drew the winds of magic to them would would have been cloistered and taught to be frost maidens and later ice witches. All male would-be mages were to be killed.

Horus Heresy 2.0 was an excellent release and great game, and im hoping that old world is as well done. My only bugbear is them re using ancient models and likely charging a bloody fortune for them

Knights quite frequently fought dismounted in real life- either because of the terrain (sieges, especially, and maybe broken terrain like forests or mountains). Plus the English, who made strategies around their longbows, liked to fight dismounted so they could stick closer to them and protect them. I don’t see any problem whatsoever with Foot Knights, even though they weren’t in the game previously (and honestly, I always thought they should be as a concession to realism). The color scheme thing also is perfectly believable- knights did sometimes use the heraldry of a higher ranking lord or house. Plus, apparently they said it was fine to paint them in individual color schemes, so I’m fine with that. What bugs me is the Skeleton Dragon... the Tomb Kings aren’t Necromancers! They don’t awaken the spirit of just any being and bring it back to its body, only the souls of fallen Nehekharan warriors (which they bind to their bodies or stone statues like Ushabti). Plus, skeleton dragons just seem really off-brand from an aesthetics point- they’re supposed to be undead Egyptians, dragons just seem like an insert from the Vampire Counts because GW wanted something new couldn’t be bothered to stay true to the lore. Should have given us an updated, newly kitted out, plastic Tomb Scorpion instead. I don’t mind the changes to the Bretonnians, but I’m still quite skeptical about this whole project. I’ll reserve final judgement for now though.

Agree on the uniform heraldry. Somewhat disagree on foot knights, I think there should be the option to take "dismounted knights" primarily for sieges, maybe somehow limit the number you can take or something. Definetely do not like the fact that some of the new knights are women. I'm guessing the price for these 6th edition models (im convinced that except the foot knights and the characters they are all the same as back then) will be enough to pay a years worth of bills. Some people have mentioned 3d printing but there are other companies that have hard plastic fantasy, I mean you only need GW minis if you intend to play at an official GW location.

Foot knights are a must for siege warfare game, at least until somebody figures out how to train war horses to fight on walls and climb ladders. ⚔

The article they posted today actually said in no uncertain terms that the order of operations was that GW wanted to remove Skaven from the game, as well as VC, and then chose a time period they felt facilitated that goal. Their priority, though, was to remove Skaven from the game. In addition, it's also worth noting when they posted an article talking about how they're "changing who can be a knight" and then have women everywhere in the knight units, and today's article with "actually there were always tons of Steam Tanks, all the people from the setting you like were just really stupid and dumb...and by the way, have you seen the far bigger and better Primaris(tm) Steam Tank?!?" Edit: Got to the end of the video and he acknowledged the second of my three points, but the other two are still quite significant.

the main problem is the rebasing. i have 7000 pts of vampire on 20X20 base. unusable now. i have all my chaos cavalry on regular 25x50. now changed to 30X60. i hate gw so much, because they want me to rebuy everything.....but thx god now i have a 3d printer

I’m just happy to be able to buy Bretonians again without paying the absurd to eBay prices

Old world's going to be a sacrifice to the left cultists. "What could go wrong?" thinks GW, "It's an IP we're not making money on. Give them an inch, I'm sure they won't take a mile". 😂

I was recomended a 7 year old vid by arch about betonians, are we in a ring story telling arch? Bretonians vs tomb kings is a bit odd but I remember one box set was bretonians and lizardmen, so stone age lizards and the more backwards humans who live across oceans who are not known for adventuring too far. Tomb kinds and brets are regions away, like france is to egypt but its a bit more feasable. I assumed the grail quests were more local, but does lady of the lake send knights on quests and crusades all around the world? "the grail is in the tomb of amkapatakan"

They probably went with Bretonnia and Tomb Kings because they (especially Bretonnia) got massively shafted in Age of Skub... Sigmar Now... consider this - starter army for a "new" old system, and you get Bretonnia, which, considering each knight's unique heraldry would be excessively difficult to paint. And an excessively difficult to paint starter army is something... not desirable. That is probably the actual reason why the lore bit states that the Knights may present themselves in colour of the lord the are gathered under - which, honestly is not the worst idea from a newbie painter perspective and it appears lore friendly enough (I even have a faint memory of something similar being a thing in the old Warhammer) - though perhaps introduction of simple orders of chivalry would be better. Or the bug with Bretonnian Knights being unicolor somehow magicked its way from Warhammer Total War 3 into the real world.

Arch once again outing himself as a true lorelet with that foot knight rant

On your Bretonia rant, its called changes and tweaks to the lore, and in my opinion a welcome one, makes them more interesting, easier to batch paint and opens up more possibilities

These are mostly repurposed old stock pictures for the cavalry. GW is doing it on the cheap.

There being other ice witches than the Tzarina was already a thing in Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay. The lack of them on the tabletop was just due to Kislev not existing much on the tabletop in the first place, just as a very bare-bones supplement for allied contingents, not a proper army book in its own right. You're right though that having entire units where the rank and file has magical weapons is just jumping the shark. The only unit that ever had that in the old Warhammer Fantasy Battles were chaos knights, who were as elite as it gets without being characters in an already highly elite army, and who have a perfect in-lore reason to have better access to magical weapons than anyone else, as the favoured of the Chaos gods.

Blessings be to you archwarhammer.

GW went with a more unified colour scheme for the Bretonetains because a lot of people found the other colour schemes quite intimidating to paint.

I hope when the Bretonnia book drops, it's like that scene at the end of GoT where the small council is deciding what to do now that the Queen is dead; someone proposes a representative democracy, and everyone collectively laughs before getting back to the actual business of running the realm.

Foot Knights, Heraldry... Female Bretonian knights seem far more alarming in regard to respect to the lore.

Hel, they are this lacy with 40k. They keep pushing out armies, then remove all the rules. See Votann, that is the last army added, and all they have bothered, was a codex. No books, no lore, almost no units. And the unique rules vanished in less than 1 years, and now they are slow imperial guards, without range, but high toughness and weaker armor than space marines. They lost all interest in the army.

Peasants having ideas on feudalism: "We don't have a lord." "What? "I told you. We're an anarcho-syndicalist commune. We take it in turns to act as a sort of executive officer for the week." Which, to be fair, would be more in line with old school, original GW Fantasy.

re: 16:00 - Strange women, lying in ponds, distributing swords is no basis for a system of government! What I want from Old World is Total War: Warhammer armies that I can paint. Let GW contort themselves all they like, as long as we reach that end state, I don't care how they justify it within the lore.

My husband is Gen x and still has lots of the old stuff.

I have no problem with the best of the best of certain factions having magical arms/ armour, or in dwarven case runic weaponry/ armour. The problem however lies in if non-lords/ non-mages/ non-best units (really high point price or regiments of renown for their service) having access to magical arms... for example, who would give a peasant a magical weapon, or a common foot soldier, etc. I just hope they don't mess too much with the tomb kings, I really like them as a faction because of their colour scheme, and some updated models for common troops, bone giant or tomb scorpion would be nice.

The foot Knights were more used in the skirmish and RPG games and I'm pretty certain there inculded purely because there a popular unit for 3D printing for use in Fantasy spiritual successor games, GW is proberly wanting to get them removed. The Lich Priest feels more like a Vampire Counts Unit, and political agitators and rebels were a Empire or Tilian thing, Bret rebels were more of the "I'm going to do what the main faction are doing but in a way to prove my way is better" mold, the best example being a hero unit who had furfilled the requirements for being a grail knight but used a bow, heck even bandits follow a strict code in Bretonnia on what they can and can't do and will aid the noblity in fighting invaders and monsters, so the idea of a Bretonnian Revolution especially in this time frame feels incrediblely ill-concevied.

I can’t believe Arch would use his skaven slaves so callously. What did they do to deserve such a treatment aside from being made/born slaves and not being mean enough and big enough to become storm vermin.

it seems like a lot of fantasy fans are determined to kill the game they claim to love before it even has a chance to succeed.

I'll never understand their thinking. Total war releases a series of beloved, successful rts games based on Warhammer, increasing Interest in the brand. GW: "Yeah, we're throwing all of that away."

Beastmen feel like proper beastmen now, they have really captured the flavour of the army well, which goes with the lore. There's a lot to like about this edition.

In defence of lack of individuality of Knights, gw did say at that point in the setting, it wasn't there for the Knights. Foot Knights makes sense for the mountainous baronys and dutchys like in the pale sisters and Montfort its stated horses aren't optimal and some of those Knights are poor in some source books. I am excited but at the same time wasn't in the hobby when fantasy was around, so not used to the expectations of the past.

It reminds me of how I went to see a play here in Arizona at the university. It was supposed to be "Excalibur" and King Arthur was apparently a great king because he really wanted socialism (no, I'm not kidding). Somehow it still managed to follow the plot of the movie more or less. At any rate, if they are going to go full progressive, I wonder if they will introduce the idea of transgender Orks, and how their society will just just have all of these Orks who randomly decide that they resemble men, but some of them suddenly feel these feminine urges by finding other genders among other species. Or how they will realize they are Aesexual and go into berserker rampages over having that mislabeled by other factions. Just imagine their sourcebook with a giant cross dressing warboss, and two orcs hugging each other, while a poetry slam is going on in the background under a banner that reads "Don't label us". The preamble can all be about breaking stereotypes. Oh sure, I won't buy it, but I will laugh at it. Never did much Warhammer Fantasy, but my army was The High Elves, I think it might have been 2nd edition back when the minis were still metal, they transitioned them to plastic a bit after I got into it, which was a big part of why I quit as I found that annoying.

That Bretonnian cavalry squad must all be brothers from the same parents, that's why they share their heraldry.

The sounds of Chaos Dwarf boots in the distance.

I for one am excited for foot knights. Bashing greatswords/chaos warriors with halberds whilst hon hon honing will be amazing.

Really disappointed with the Tomb Kings box. It's going to be $290 US for 93 models that are mostly old enough to drink( in the case of the horses, old enough to see their kids off to Middle School). That bone dragon centerpiece monstrosity is something I'm never going to want to have to transport ever. It was also completely unnecessary as anybody interested in Tomb Kings wanted a Necrosphinx or Heirotitan. I'm glad we're getting the Necrosphinx. But if they're going to design a new model, we've been waiting 10 years for a Heirotitan. What the hell, james.

War hammer gate keeping was never successful- the only wall you had was the PRICE. I’ve been thinking for a while now, since I fled my hobbies and took up war hammer, the infection vector will be the books…. I think I am right.

You are right about the knight's painting...

I'm happy GW changed Bretonnian lore to allow uniform knights. I'm not burning myself painting 25 different heraldry schemes. If other people want to, great. You can still do that. But GW is showing new players its OK to paint uniform for this army.

I always painted my bret peasants to match the livery of specific knights in my army

aaaaaaaaand the first Old World novel has a whole bunch of female Bretonnian knights, abandon the ship

I have to push back here a little bit but you can't seriously tell me that AoS isn't a massive financial success. You can even make the strong case that currently AoS offers the best GW rule system next to Lord of the Rings.

You have mastered penitent, you can master breath of fresh air.

Frankly, after GW f*ed up WHFB after 5th edition I do not give a crap anymore. Especially how GW became more and more corporate machine that cares only about revenue not hobby and fans. WHRPG 1st edition was great, WHFB 5th edition was fun. Everything after is just ride to the bottom for me. I do not give GW a broken penny and I have absolutely 0% of trust for them. And I keep grudges better than Dwarves.

This is the worst of both worlds, re-releasing old factions almost unchanged but with weird changes to the lore. It doesn't feel like their brining back the old world, only niche factions to make a quick buck off of those nostalgic for them.

I mean it’s an easy mistake to make with the Ultramarines. Anyone can confuse the violent street gang in your area with the local Boy Scout troop