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The Only Brand To Ever Wreck Rolex & Omega...Is Now Dead.

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Ah, yes. Believe it or not there was a brand at one point in time that deserved a seat at or near the throne. This was a brand with a Finnish supermodel as their celebrity behind their chronograph, they had twisted lugs like Omega, the same BEZEL as the Speedmaster, and THE SAME MOVEMENT as the Daytona. They had designs that could fight against any brand, complications that made you say: "Oh, that's amazing!". And yet...they are gone. Lost to the sands of time. Each particle eroding them more and more until we were left with stories from our elders...and Hodinkee.
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@diemes5463 Год назад

What a weird sponsor

@robertwilliams1286 Год назад

Dude thought the same thing. Money is money but I don't see the alignment with brand

@tylerbetthauser7647 Год назад

I'm sure they didn't want to take this one on either lol

@blueriver4622 Год назад

Agreed unacceptable.

@emiduy Год назад

got to get the bag somehow

@songoku-jx3cb Год назад

Watch collector and gamers are both geeks 😂

@MarketingGuy Год назад

Why is no one talking about the botched audio from 10:50 until the end of the video? Audio and video clearly is not matching. Not even close.

@TheoandHarris Год назад

Hey everyone! So sorry about the audio delay going on here -- trying to figure it out now. The video is delayed for some and not others -- it looks like it's something I can confidently blame on RU-vid and still sleep at night. EDIT: Christian says "the video is better if you close your eyes anyway"

@SmurfPerfect Год назад

Where's Anna?

@MaxiGenferei Год назад

For those interested with old vintage awesome watches here is a list to pay attention to: 1) Universal Geneve (Compax + Polerouter) 2) Lemania 3) Zénith Chronograph 4) Bovet 5) Ulysse Nardin 6) Omega Pie Pan 7) Heuer Autavia 8) Gruen Precison 110 (montre James Bond dans Dr No) 9) Girard Pérregaux Gyromatic 10) for cheap money you can also try to find the vintage Churchill LIP Watch (inspired tank and Reverso)

@Horizontalvertigo Год назад

The Lip was inspired *by* I think you meant. I just stumbled across the Lip brand myself and bought a (NOS) Polaris with the lightning bolts, haven't gotten it yet but am really excited.

@popezosimusthethird269 Год назад

Any Lip will end up costly over time if you want to keep them running at all. Lip's movements were not built particularly well, nor were they really built to last. That is, WHEN they were actually built to specs as management and the workforce weren't clashing. It should be telling that Lip ended up building soviet-era russian movements under license because it's the only thing management considered economical enough and the workers found manageable to build on schedule. Lip is interesting, had some pretty unique models (the Stop Parking had its own countdown to tell you when your parking fee was about to expire) but keeping them in good shape now is not cheap and will only get worse as parts stockpiles for their less common and more sought after models run dry.

@MaxiGenferei Год назад

Lip was inspired by...exactly... and of course comparing to the other 9 Lip is shit, specially nowadays. It just became famous as it was offered to Churchill.. For people not willing to spend over 300-500$ for a little piece of history it is reasonable. Damn, I realized I forgot to mentioned the Tissot Seastar from the 50's

@MaxiGenferei Год назад

Forgot also old vintage IWC, but hard to find a good one, too many frankenwatches with this brand

@Horizontalvertigo Год назад

@@popezosimusthethird269 I picked one with an electro-mechanical movement, so even more fun to keep running. I'll enjoy it while it lasts, but if it ends up sitting in a watchbox in the future and not a runner, that's not too bad, I have a Accutron 214 Spaceview to enjoy instead and those are pretty bombproof.

@lucaslung284 Год назад

I have never understood why UG never released a modern 38mm Polerouter. It would have sold like crazy

@zman8340 Год назад

Same …. I’m waiting

@CptnWinkee Год назад

But what did you actually DO with Anna? Is she safe?

@SmurfPerfect Год назад

Michael is Anna 2.0. Christian upgraded the code and processing speed, set the aesthetics more to his preferences.

@michellep2682 Год назад

People have asked for years and no answers. She is missed

@CptnWinkee Год назад

@@SmurfPerfect But Anna looks better in a bikini.

@stevevuoso8411 Год назад

@@CptnWinkee Have you seen Michael in a bikini?

@SmurfPerfect Год назад

@@CptnWinkee Christian's tastes run more to Michael's silhouette.

@antonyreyn Год назад

Universal Geneve actually made the Bulova Moon watch (lunar pilot) worn by Dave Scott on the moon , as UG was a subsidiary of Bulova. So add that to their credentials , see the Worn and Wound article by Hung Doan

@fungus_am0nguz644 Год назад

Tremendous brand, a brand that im very fond of, i remember buying vintage Universal chronos in the late 90s for less than 1k. I have owned so many models of this brand, compax, tri compax space compax, aero compax, flat pushers pump pushers, steel, gold, white shadows, I still got my evil nina from back in the days. One time i got offered a 24 hour split seconds for 9k (lol i still bang my head on that one). One of the brands that really got me into vintage watches. I love UG.

@fawaziabdulghani2334 Год назад

I can't believe RAID SHADOWLEGENDS has found it's way into the watch niche

@birkrum4630 Год назад

NOOO Raid got to them as well

@Horizontalvertigo Год назад

They're real RU-vidrs now

@TommyRibs Год назад

Another great brand, that in theory kind of exists is Eterna. They made the ETA movements for everyone back in the day and had a great line of watches including the Kon Tiki and the Super Kon Tiki.

@lonewolfemcquade8133 Год назад

I actually been eyeing a Eterna Porsche design "Top gun" style from the early 2000s.

@alfredbiocheck Год назад

@@lonewolfemcquade8133 Great Choice

@MaxiGenferei Год назад

True Eterna Matic before quartz crisis was also very nice. I think Ebel was also nice at that time

@TheSnitzel96 Год назад

medico stands for Doctor, so i think the cronograph could be used to measure the heartbeat

@brownmcpherson5724 Год назад

When I went to work for my first boss, 45 years ago, he had aFerrari, a Lamborghini and wore a UG Chronograph.

@nazerim Год назад

RAID Shadow Legends and Luxury Watches? Really?

@RedwoodAggie Год назад

UG is sitting on a gold mine. I think about this every few months and get upset that they don't do anything with it.

@MaxiGenferei Год назад

Let's raise a mutual crowd funding and restart this magical brand that's should never have been discontinued

@LaurentiusTriarius Год назад

I own a lot of UG's that are beaten down and worn. Most of them were new old stock when I got them and I don't feel the least guilt in the world. Love them, my 2000's Okeanos nobody loves and 1960's Altesse and Shadows are really being used.

@OneManReviews Год назад

I used to own a vintage Polerouer date with the micro-rotor (not the Genta's version) it was a beautiful watch in great condition. Still regret selling them. It would be great to see the brand revival.

@zetapingpong Год назад

I was disappointed after all that buildup that the brand in question was not Invicta.

@colinsview Год назад

Christian is wearing the new Rolex Celebration dial as a shirt!! 🎉

@MrClubgibson Год назад

Maybe this is just me but I've reloaded the page, and turned my VPN on and off. When Christian tells the story about him reading The Prince in 7th grade, at 10:41 the audio and the video get out of sync...

@chriso5963 Год назад

Jean-Claude Biver is the one that could and should bring Universal Geneve back to life. If dreams could become true...

@balesjo Год назад

I'm surprised a wealthy collector hasn't come in and revived the brand and released the great watches they were releasing before.

@boatdetective Год назад

You might mention that there is little or no hope of getting any spare parts for a vintage UG. The ownership experience sooner or later will involve sending it to your watchmaker for a two year vacation while he sends up smoke signals for some little piece of unobtanium.

@NomadicPhoton Год назад

Or makes the parts

@pamisavejr 8 месяцев назад

Amazing timeless watches! Great starting point for vintage, great value prop!

@osochara Год назад

I enjoy every episode but I am constantly reminded by how the education system has let you both down lol. Never change, guys.

@gmatic8230 Год назад

RAID SHADOW LEGENDS? This ain’t it, chief!

@fakenewsisthenews3542 Год назад

As soon as Michael said, "The Nina"..... I said exactly the same thing as Christian at the same time. LOL. too funny

@johnswick7108 Год назад

Take a drink everytime Harris says stunning. You’ll fall out before the video ends. Lol

@ceal2656 7 месяцев назад

I have an Evil Clapton tri-comax (reverse colors than the Eric Clapton). It was my uncle, and I love it!!, I only need where to service it…. Great subject.

@Thehuntress404 Год назад

man that pic of her with that bundt strap at a 70's (?) formula one race, what a time to be alive

@BGTenders Год назад

I am… in fact… a raid shadow legends

@chrisbluma7942 Год назад

Universal Geneve had killer designs and I will never understand why they were allowed to die.

@fakenewsisthenews3542 Год назад

LOL, "that's why you work for me". Epic.

@duvidtv9544 Год назад

i tried to connect UG about selling the brand never got an answer from them

@VMIyanks04 4 месяца назад

This was a prophetic episode! Breitling ended up buying UG and Omega has since came out with the white dial Speedy! They’re all watching you!!!

@Amit_Patel. Год назад

Make a video on Titan watch brand by TATA company. Although they just have Quartz watch, I would love to enjoy the Titan watch video on your channel.

@Amit_Patel. Год назад

No, they do have Automatic watches too.

@saikiranmushkara8955 Год назад

What a shirt, Christian!! Can you please provide the link for the same? :D

@DevRel1 Год назад

Right after medici... The video is like 25 seconds out of sync with the video. Bravo.

@TheTubaEmporer Год назад

Just bought a beautiful copper dial polerouter jet from the early 60’s. Stunning 🤩

@friedpork_owl Год назад

Maybe UG was just early with the mech/Asia move (like Sony with the psp/vita). I would rather be late than wrong. Cheers

@josips4281 Год назад

Not sure if it's YT thing but audio and video is off sync for me

@Paneristo Год назад

So glad, Anna still exists!

@petrnovak8143 Год назад

I love Universal Geneve.😍 Their watches are simply beautiful. And the early chronographs are just breathtaking. Especially Aero-Compax. That's my grail watch.

@matthewb9935 Год назад

Universal Geneve is a phenomenal watch brand with unbelievable complex watchmaking prowess and breathtaking aesthetics, but in real life they are too small.

@JoeyJiggles Год назад

Where is Anna? What’s the story?

@chriso5963 Год назад

Nice conversation and topic.

@kdids Год назад

4:15 - thats actually genius

@chriselley2261 Год назад

You can get your white dial panda Speedmaster in a special Japanese-market only Marui automatic. Limited numbers, but beautiful.

@m.e.p.r Год назад

Who owns the rights to the brand now, does anybody know?

@mrfake4900 Год назад

Hong kong based stelux group from what I've found on the internet seems to be the new owner.They are a distributor for Seiko and Grand Seiko in Hong kong ,Singapore , Macau,Malaysia and Brunei.

@timmyhexham9603 Год назад

I feel like I just got an horological lesson.. wonderful.. subscribed.

@dee-ker5867 Год назад

is it me or it is not sync with audio?

@theshadowman1398 Год назад

Get to the bloody point quicker.

@mistermikeyjay Год назад

To say his name right, think "rockin" like Rockin Robin, bit instead of an R use a Y. (Like saying Yokkin'). If you look online for his fatal crash, you can see footage of her in the pits looking worried and the team members talking to her about the crash. You can tell she had an aura about her, now that you say she was a Model it makes sense now.

@12WeMet1 Год назад

Boats and hoes Christian, I got you 😂

@teakcore5261 Год назад

My favorite vintage brand! So much history… Boomers could have bought almost of them for next to nothing

@praveennair9501 4 дня назад

you missed out talking about the UG white shadow.

@glencassiano2658 Год назад

What happened with Anna?

@flyingphoenix113 Год назад

I was going to ask the same. Her on-camera synergy with Christian was fantastic. I loved the energy that she brought to T&H.

@jw.2507 Год назад

She's been gone for a couple of years now...they never gave us an explanation. At least, not one that I can ever remember. She ain't ever coming back at this point, I wouldn't count on it. I like these two, but Anna was enjoyable As well, a shame!

@WINDINGCROWNS Год назад

She is a photographer for some music artists. She posts on IG behind the scenes pics. She seems to love what she does.

@RedwoodAggie Год назад

I believe she's involved in the music industry now.

@SmurfPerfect Год назад

Christian decided she wasn't hip enough.

@blaya58 Год назад

Is Christian balding? Around 15:30. Anyways now I have your attention - nice polo I need to know where its from.

@plainfriedrice109 Год назад

Rowing Blazers

@blaya58 Год назад

@@plainfriedrice109 thanks 🙏🏾

@seanmiller7187 Год назад

What's up with the audio sync?

@300IQPUG Год назад

my love letter to mikey, dear mr everything right with the watch world. thank you for blessing us again and carrying the person i will not name. but we all know how I feel about said person... please start your own channel, you dont need....him... we all love you, thank you for all you do

@blueriver4622 Год назад

I love this channel, I’ve been watching for nearly 8 years. This is constructive advice, please advertise for better companies today was not your best work. I’ll never get those 60 seconds back, just awful really. Again, big fan. And patron of Theo and Harris both watches and Straps. Christian was class in person but today/ this video was not your best moment.

@michielroskam3877 Год назад

Its zenith?

@jeffusrangerairborne9061 Год назад

Theo? The Shirt?????????????

@josephzamorajr Год назад

Did anyone ever win those giveaways 🤔

@originalserpent1834 Год назад

No mate

@JugoSatNaRuci Год назад

Nope that’s what they all promise.

@BowlinForWine Год назад

I won

@originalserpent1834 Год назад

@@BowlinForWine what you get?

@med-3000 Год назад

These watches also remind me of 60s and 70s Heuer Carrera watches.

@zubayermiajee6808 Год назад

Sir Jackie Stewart is still alive...

@davidthom7127 Год назад

I'd sell my soul for a pole router

@heesub64 Год назад

build up was too long... fastforwarded

@1996Egr Год назад

Is it just me or the audio is super delayed? I see them laughing and the laughter comes 45 seconds later ahahaha?

@MaxiGenferei Год назад

Oh and Nice trying to show horological knowledge but Medico is just meaning that the watch was used for Doctor to measure breathe. For example….

@dangerosos3594 Год назад

La Niña, la Pinta, y Santa María!

@susanhopkins6702 Год назад

something went seriously wrong with this video... the audio is functioning in another universe. i kept thinking it would be corrected, but no.....

@RedwoodAggie Год назад

Yes, you are correct. It was not synchronized with the video for me.

@thegraciefighter102 Год назад

I think if you didn’t know who this brand was before it was revealed then you’re not a watch fan.

@thedondeluxe6941 Год назад

FIX THE SYNC!

@hmwatchs8 Год назад

Love universal Geneve

@zillsburyy1 Год назад

OMEGA has always been a rolex killer

@KL-ny1rl Год назад

the audio is not synced with video LOL

@rodrigoquinonez2615 Год назад

Medico Comes from Medicine not the Medici family.

@rodrigoquinonez2615 Год назад

Pulsation watches were made for doctors to measure heart beats per minute.

@vrbanitas2021 Год назад

Patek story is just BS

@HarrisLoops Год назад

Is it just me or did the editing get done shoddily? It’s totally out of sync from about halfway in.

@aaronmauer7225 7 месяцев назад

Had to watch this again now that breitling bought UG

@martstam2016 Год назад

Universal rules, Favre Leuba was great

@tajtahmeena8635 Год назад

Favre leuba was pretty good. They’re still a steal if you can find a clean one

@private464 Год назад

that GREEN one looked amazing! What model was that?

@addisonchandler6062 Год назад

What the heck happened to Anna? Reunion video coming? 🤔

@ethansadventures Год назад

“You may be curious what raid shadow legends is” No one cares and everyone knows this cringe game

@gelmibson883 Год назад

Jepp it is sad. To bad nobody was willing to give that brand a fresh start and hpped the retro vintage hype They had so much great dials over the decades. Sad sad.. .