@@Faust.layout thanks for making it sensible. I've become accustomed to typing on my Surface Go and the WM2 layout is virtually identical. Nice quick learning curve when I get my WM2.
We French fellows are using altgr as well and since it's a common keys for bigger keyboards, and used specifically for typical symbols, I thought that it made sense.
Wow this is an awesome device for a college student. Put the little covers on and take it to class for notes and work, casual gaming on the side without the need for accessories or a separate device, and it seems to be about the size of a notebook for easy transport. Carrying around a 15 inch laptop has always been a major pain. Love it!
i love GPD, every time they present something it just gets a tiny little bit better and cooler. The PC space would be boring without quirky mobile devices :D
I love companies that make weird, unique products that work well. Gives the industry a nice bit of spice to shake up a lot of the very standard options we've got out there.
The device's port is USB4, but since you're hooking up a Thunderbolt 3 eGPU enlosure, the protocol connecting these two is Thunderbolt 3, since USB4 can be backwards compatible to TBT3, even on non-intel devices, since intel contributed the TBT3 specs to the USB-IF, which used them to create USB4. But yeah, it's awesome that we have thunderbolt-compatability on AMD devices now.
Also consider this video was most likely recorded before the USB 4 2.0 80 Gbps announcement. Which is a bummer considering the fact I wanted to see a reviewer test this model in that speed.
Just remember that USB4 does not _necessarily_ support "PCIe Tunneling" (what lets you hook up external GPUs). A lot of USB4 is, unfortunately, optional. At minimum, it just supports USB 3.2 Tunneling at 10 Gbit/s (or is it 20 Gbit/s? I keep finding conflicting information about this)! So you still need to check what you're actually getting. -This was also true for Thunderbolt 3, afaik, by the way.- And Thunderbolt 4 is basically USB4/TB3 with most (all?) of the "optional boxes" ticked, from my understanding. Man, is this ever going to get less confusing...
@@Blacklands PCIe Tunneling is NOT optional on Thunderbolt, all versions of the standard (even old Thunderbolt 1/2 ports with Mini DP connector) supports it...
@@mbc07 Seems you're right! Seems Thunderbolt always PCIe, Thunderbolt 3 just isn't necessarily 40 Gbit/s. Thunderbolt 4 apparently sets the minimum speed to 32 Gbit/s? And TB has a minimum speed of 16 Gbit/s.
4:55 Holding R2 (Right Trigger) should speed the cursor up, or at least it used to in every single GPD Win device before this. Also, in my opinion, GPD has the best "Mouse Mapping" on a controller ever. I replicated the same configuration on my Steam Deck's desktop mode as best as I could as well. It's just really well thought out. 5:38 It may be bigger than the Steam Deck, but close the lid on the Win Max 2 and put both devices in their cases, and the Win Max 2 will become WAY more portable than the Steam Deck. Steam Deck in its official case takes up a massive amount of space. It is both wider by about 30% and DOUBLE in thickness.
@@nickthaskater It may not need one to protect the screen, but I still like to put my Win Max 2021 in a snug sleeve case. I carry many random and often sharp things in my backpack. I'd rather not scratch its body.
I love this current trend of making one device that you can use for everything. As someone who has a gaming PC, a macbook as a workstation and a steam deck for more console-style gaming, having that all be replaced by a single device sounds amazing
Absolutely. This isn't about whether you prefer AMD or Intel, it's about both actively pushing progress and giving the customers amazing new hardware with competitive prices.
@@BerserkFury89 Yep. Whether you’re pro AMD, pro Intel, or just love tech, you’re getting something out of that healthy competition. It’s great to see. I’m just happy to have good choices. My loyalty is to my wallet.
Competition only works when people support multiple options, PC gamers can’t stop giving Nvidia almost all their GPU money. Yet they expect AMD to somehow have the budget to improve their graphics cards and match features like DLSS. Fingers crossed Intel Arc sorts itself out and gains market share too.
You don’t need to reboot or use the BIOS to change TDP. There is a batch file as well as an app that does it on the fly from Windows desktop. There are videos out there if this being done.
@@fritzkier Sorry, but you miss the point. Linus incorrectly states that currently the Max2 needs to be restarted and change BIOS settings to change TDP. That is incorrect and has been for a long time. It does not currently have a slick app like Aya, but there are at least 2 very easy methods that can do it on the fly from the desktop.
It's weird that a channel like this couldn't be bothered to look for such things. There's literally multiple ways of changing TDP, even better than what the Ayaspace can do.
@@tappersreviews4677 You must be absolutely daft. A batch file is NOT user intuitive at all. And unless the manufacturer specifically states and provides the app it doesn't count. You sound like a Linux user that thinks adding random PPA's from the internet is a good idea.
@@tappersreviews4677 I think Linus wanted to point out that it's possible in a really user-friendly way, and that this type of user-friendliness is missing on the Max2, that is at least the way I interpreted it!
I have been looking for a powerful and flexible small laptop for a while, this thing literally nails every single thing I wanted and so much more! I just ordered the 32GB/2TB version, can't wait to receive it! Thanks for keeping us updated on new and unique stuff that we may not otherwise hear much about!
You can probably fix the palm rejection issues in windows mouse settings. I forgot the name of the setting but there's a sensitivity you can adjust and setting it to "most sensitive" disables palm rejection and usually fixes those issues. I ran into the same thing on a newish Asus notebook trackpad.
I love how you love these handheld gaming computers. Kinda like Mr. Mobile's love for folding screens. I have no interest in the former, but hell, I enjoy these videos more than most others you produce (and I watch every video you produce, 4k, full screen, before watching any other content when I first sit down after work) because of your sheer enthusiasm for the product category. Great job LMG. Have a good night :)
Considering this already does so much, having a USB A or C to RJ45 adapter cable isn't out of the question for times when I need a physical connection when I'm out somewhere. As for home, the dock will have the RJ45 connection. The covers for the controls are definitely a nice touch. I use the empty space around the TouchPad as a solid backing so I can write notes haha
GPD actually got a small form factor laptop that has not only RJ45 Ethernet, but also an expansion port that can be either DB-9 RS-232 or HDMI IN. Basically that's their newest productivity solution.
@@FlameRat_YehLon I had a Pocket 3 for about three days before the Win Max 2 got announced. While I like the form factor and the twisting screen for a tablet mode, I didn't like the keyboard and lack of 4g. If the Pocket 4 fixes those issues it's a day one buy for me.
@@oxxification personally doubt that the pocket series would actually have good keyboard. Even if they don't go with awkward key layout it's still too small to type on, and is probably more like for emergency use only. 4G is likely a real good improvement, but using a phone to create a hotspot isn't a huge pain either. But still, even without the need of 4G, who wouldn't love an extra 2230 M.2 slot?
This literally is the ultimate all in one productivity and gaming laptop, I love my steam deck but I wouldn’t at all consider using it for work without some dongle and leads nightmare
Yeah when Linus said that there's a lot of people just using the deck as an all in one laptop computer and gaming device I was like "what!?!?" LOL f that I use my deck for games and that's it. If you're a student a gaming laptop or this would suit way better than a deck
@@TheAkashicTraveller Nah. Base steam deck price is $400. Surprisingly, you can buy a laptop with a better APU for around that price. It's still surprising that the deck is at that price point and has high quality sensors, analog sticks, and a nice screen though.
@@TheAkashicTraveller It's cheap for a portable gaming rig, and Valve's strategy is giving away the razor to sell the blades (the focus on the Steam library). That said using it as a regular computer is very much a slapped on "Sure it CAN do that" feature that by the nature of linux is possible but not as great of a solution as this GPD unit.
@@manavsharma2232 what laptop comes with RDNA 2 graphics and 16gb of ram for $400? You need to spend double that to get a laptop with specs even close to what’s in the Steam Deck.. For comparison this device Linus just reviewed is $3200 USD. Steam Deck is amazing value.
I still remember buying the original GPD Win back in 2016, when it was one of the only gaming PC handhelds, if not the only one. I loved that it was practically the size of a 3DS. It couldn't play much, but the idea behind it was incredible. I remember playing a lot of Fallout 3 on it.
@@jessica49arrow By today’s standards it would be pretty lacking. There had to be dedicated buttons for L3 & R3 because the sticks couldn’t click in. The fan that cools the system was not set up to automatically detect the heat of the processor so there was a dedicated switch to turn the fan on high, low, or off. The device itself does get pretty warm on the back when gaming on it. The biggest thing is though is it’s not really a gaming APU. You’re lucky if you can play any 3D games. As I was saying Fallout 3 was one of the exceptions, but I’m sure I was barely getting over 30fps, probably everything set to low, and probably below 720p resolution. At the time though there was nothing else like it, it was amazing to me, and watching The Phawx do everything he could to get games to run on it was always thrilling. I feel Iike GPD had no competition until around when the third iteration came out.
OH my god. Thank you for advertising Rocksmith. I tried to teach myself to play guitar like 20 years ago but got frustrated and gave up. I'm about to buy a guitar and use my love of technology to teach myself how to play.
Awesome! We are getting back to the era of experimenting with tech. I wasn't even born in the 90s but I get my mind blown when I see the crazy stuff they were doing by then
From what i remember in the 90's the motto was "don't bother talking about your new top PC because it will be old news in a month" especially in the latest years when AMD was hitting hard with their AMD64. It was the age of the MHz and GHz fight where a new higher clock CPU released almost every month and those days those higher clocks made much more difference than now. New generation GPUs were getting yearly releases as well like smartphones after Nvidia and ATI(ATi is the company AMD bought so they can start making GPu's) appeared and their GPU war started. Mobile phones were getting better everyday and PalmOS was innovating with portable smartphone like devices. Things were wild from 94 to 2002 something. And now we have similar circumstances. AMD has found their mojo back forcing Intel to wake up and CPU wars starting, their GPU's are also catching to nVidia with even Intel entering the market and mobile devices and smartphone wars are going great with AMD and Intel making good laptop low powered APu's, while the ARM type APU's wars are going big with Qualcomm, Mediatec, Apple and Samsung+AMD being in full fight. The only problem with today's age is this horrible politicians and globalists that created a big inflation and an economic and energy crisis that made things go slower this last 2 years.
8:03 This was explained by a GPD employee on the unofficial GPD discord channel; the prototypes are 72 w/h, the retail ones are 67 w/h. Also the ram is not 5400MT/s but 6400. It's 5400 on the 1260P model but that model is not for sale anymore. And finally, there are lots of programs that you can use to change tdp with; amd system deck which is supplied by gpd, project sbc's power control panel v2, and ciphray's TDP bat file (you can find it on the gpd discord)
@@adultinggamer Because the crowdfunding campaign only "sold" about 40 units, whereas AMD "sold" several thousand. Those who ordered the Intel version will still get it, but no new orders are allowed.
I've been waiting for this channel to review this device. I noticed that 4g LTE wasn't mentioned. However I'm super excited to get my hands on this PC. I also would of liked to see how it performed on a dual screen setup.
@@AmaryIIion It's gone up in price a bit and is now ~$1k for the base model with 16GB RAM + 1T storage, and $1.2k for the 32G RAM model. The LTE card itself is another $80.
Personally, I’d never use a device like this. It’s too big to be used comfortably as a handheld console, and too small to be used comfortably as a laptop. I don’t really think you can find a middle ground with these types of devices that really achieves the best of both worlds
honestly this is more of a subjective thing based on how big/smol of hands you have, which i think is why finding a middle ground is a pain in the ass but also is looks could be deceiving and could be more comfy in the hand then it looks, the steam deck is the same way, i thought it looked uncomfortable as hell to hold but once you actually get to hold it, its nowhere near as bad as it looks (based on using a friends steam deck for a couple of hours)
Even though I wouldn't actually have any use for one, nor could I realistically afford it, I still get really excited when you feature these GPD handheld-laptop-whatever devices. I have no idea why, but I'm super into them :D
I bought one of your screw drivers Linus. I watched the Project Farm video and you screw driver made a really good showing. It was a destructive test but it was indeed tough. Three years worked out in the end. Nice Job to the engineering team.
I’ve cancelled my Steam Deck for this one. After totaling everything together, 256GB Deck, MicroSD, dock, new 2230 M.2 and keyboard/mouse… I was upwards to $1000 with total kit. Plus, it’s way more friendly for opening up than the Deck. This makes more sense, especially since I play builder type simulation games on PC. Also, SteamOS is coming to this device as well. Valve is currently testing GPD’s hardware for quality assurance on both AMD and Intel versions. It’s great to see Valve has pushed some quality out Aya Neo, GPD and OneXPlayer.
Good choice, people love to complain that these things are expensive (this gpd is, but its worth it for 20-30% more performance than the deck) but they dont realize 6800u devices are starting 6 to 700 dollars. You getting this will increase the competition in this space which in time will just give all of us consumers better prices and hardware.
@@ultimategohan1551 better feelings on repairing this device myself too. It felt like the Deck had some warranty traps for self repair. Another thing, SteamOS is coming to it anyway, so why not get the best portable PC experience. It could just be me, but I think this could travel with my Switch and iPad Air 5 better than the Deck due to its square footprint.
@@progxdt yup why have carry 2 handhelds + tablet. When you can carry switch + win max(handheld/,laptop) +ipad. Having to use the deck as a laptop sounds horrible
"Narrow aspect ratios." Me who remembers 4:3 being standard. :/ 16:9 was so awesome at the time, I was working in Photoshop and there was just so much more space to work on screen.
@@WhereAllYourDeletedCommentsGo 16:9 is OK for content, but if you have OS that has taskbar and program with menus the effective aspect ratio is more like 21:9 instead of 16:9, so additional height of 16:10 makes a huge improvement in program usability. 3:2 or 16:10 FTW
I actually got to alpha test the intel verison of this device and man oh man, it really is a killer. I am hitting 150+ WPM on the keyboard after just a week or so of retraining muscle memory, daily driving it as my work and personal device. I would have loved to see Sarah's take on the stylus support/usability as a drawing device, Ploufe's take on the keyboard, Alex just.. being Alex with the device, Anthony loading up every Retro game he could imagine and nerding out over the resolution/integer scaling... But the one thing I really really wish was covered is a color calibration/color accuracy test. The screen looks *really good*, but I noticed it being a little lacking in reds. Curious if you found the same. In a way, GPD shot themselves in the foot. There's so much to talk about here in terms of features that you can't spend enough time talking about any of them.
Plenty of RU-vidrs making reviews and checking devices like this that even make much longer detailed videos. Linus is more like the big popular channel basic coverage of such things instead of the really nerdy one. I am certain that if you want a few tech RU-vidrs everything will end up being mentioned in the end. And if you are a possible buyer you probably will. Every time i find a device i am interested in throwing cash on, i check like dozen RU-vid videos about it to make certain i know what am about to buy in detail because i don't trust i'll get a full picture by just one guy.
Can't wait for mine! I hoped the Win3 would be my small do-it-all system but the keyboard killed it. This thing seems practically perfect and I dropped way too much money on a maxed out unit and a 2TB gen4 ssd to install when it gets here
@@NexXxus86 The Win4 looks good but another thing I found with the Win3 is how limiting that form factor is. For gaming it's great but not so much for anything else.
I got the almost fully decked out one with 2 tb but only 16gb ram.. Cannot wait for it. Just got my steam deck.. Will sell it once they ship my gpdwinmax
Can't wait for mine too. I have always thought gpd small labtops were really cool, then I saw this thing. Portable, it games well, productivity, nice keyboard, controller, usb4. This checkmarks so much... I had to have this in my life. Now I will make my fiancée even more mad when I start looking at egpu's. I got the aw3423dw this year and a 3080 ti as well as the 5800x3d. She us not happy at all, but i have been waiting for a couple years to get the upgrades I've been waiting for.
On the fly TDP switching: There is a tool "Motion Assistant" that adds the ability, though the bios setting acts as the upper limit. It also allows fine-tuning the GPU frequency, which in some other video was shown to allow reaching the same FPS at up to 25% lower TDP.
I know I'm late to the game seeing this video, but I kind of want this as both a gaming device and an ultraportable GIS mapping device. It's small with some graphics muscle that can probably handle ArcGIS and a decent amount of data reasonably well but is tiny and light if you're out in the field. Also...the gamepad might make for a good map browsing tool. And you can play games with it after work. And you can do regular laptop work stuff. I know that's an even more niche use case for it - the academic who does GIS and likes to play games, but it might be a good one for that use case.
Man this is the first comment I leave to your channel after years of subscribing, but I really want to congratulate your writers for such inspired text and transitions and jokes and everything. I do not even care about tech anymore, I watch you because you (plural) make me happy. Very nice production. Keep it going.
Man, this thing is actually quite compelling. The graphics performance rates between a GTX 1050ti and a 1650, which would be enough I think, for most stuff when on the go. The location of the trackpad, while awkward, makes the most sense to me- I would just use a gaming mouse. And while I would also choose an external gamepad, having it built in is still really good in a pinch. I could stick this thing in my backpack, plus a 15" portable monitor, a Switch, headphones, and gamepad, and my shoulders would (probably) hate it less than if I cram my HP Omen in there with its massive charging brick. I'm blown away.
GPD is the company that I saw a lot of stuff from that got me into the idea of modern handhelds years ago. I only got one this year though, and it was a Retroid Pocket 3. Then I got a Zephyrus G14 with a 3060. But damn if the GPD Win Max 2 isn't my ideal use case..... 😭 Just can't justify that purchase.
Honestly, GPD has been such a win. It's so rare for a company to consistently put out good stuff. I legit love when these reviews come out purely because of how excited Linus always is about the product.
@@JoshuaLotion Linus is always enthusiastic about handhelds. ALWAYS. And he actively used to warn people about GPD specifically when he did videos on their first products because they were fresh. But he was always enthusiastic about the product and GPD just kept delivering so he stopped warning people about them. Also, GPD didn’t even sponsor the video. It was Zoho and Rocksmith. So no, it’s not an ad.
Ya ads by law are required to be disclosed, there was a huge crackdown on it on youtube a bit back, and i don't think Linus or his legal people would let that happen.
@@flameshana9 Steam Deck lacks performance and compatibility. While Steam OS is the best we've seen from a linux distro so far, pretty much everything is guaranteed to run on a Windows based machine.
That sponsor segue was top notch lol I can't wait for my AOKZOE to arrive - it's Steamdeck style as opposed to clamshell netbook style. Has 2xUSB4, a 2280 M.2, SD card (the new ultra fast gen), Ryzen 6800U, 32gb RAM, hall effect joystick, 1920*1200 IPS LCD .
I like the touch pad above the keyboard. No palm input issues and I am far more likely to plug in a mouse most of my time using. If I wasn't in need of a complete system upgrade I would be quite interested in buying. Maybe later though as that machine would be a great mobile setup.
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-DzmRT5yG85U.html You can do this with a touchpad, at least If Its slightly to the right, it makes sense since If you use a laptop you want to prioritize portability and its not everywhere you can slap a mouse and a mousepad
Dimensions of Asus Eee PC with modern powerful hardware. Man, this is the best laptop I've seen in years, I hope it will be available for purchase soon.
I loved my Asus Eee PC 1000 Linux version, it was never a very powerful machine though and didn't last very long for useage purposes. My GPD Win Max 2 will last many years :)
@@jaydenphilbertmunipals9089 This is closer to a super gameboy SP than a 3ds. The defining feature of the 3ds and all DS's were the double screens, not the folding mechanism
Can get quite a lot of storage in this. 2280 SSD can be increased to 4TB, a few companies are working on 2TB microSDs and there's at least one company working on a 2 TB 2230 SSD.
I can't wait to get my 6800U/32GB model. This is literally the ultra-portable I've been waiting for since I first got an Aspire One netbook all those years ago. Time to retire my Surface Go, mercifully!
@@epicoddgamer2900 Hey, thanks for asking! I think it would be a mix between the GPD Pocket (for the I/O, flip-around screen), the GPD Win Max 2 (for the gaming controls and specs), and the Thinkpad Helix 2 (tablet mode, nipple, digitizer).
Not the same target audience. But I would love to see a similar device geared towards musicians. No build in gamepad, but instead a velocity sensitive keyboard (would be amazing with aftertouch) and a build in high quality DAC and rudimentary audio interface. Such a device would make music making on the road such a blast.
I love how linus said 7 years ago on the first GPD Win review "stay tuned, like five years from now it's gonna be awesome", and here we are. The steam deck took the market by storm and then others followed like asus with the rog ally and then lenovo. Yeah they are awesome now
How does this have USB4 & HDMI 2.1 while the new MacBook Pros only have the former? Either way, it’s great to see more portable gaming PCs become more prevalent.
Personally I just want a super small super portable laptop, which I can then take home and connect to a keyboard, mouse, two displays and have it function as my desktop. This is perfect for that!
I really want one but I'm glad valve subsidized my purchase of the steam deck because I got my wife and myself one each for the same price I'd spend on the win max. (Granted I'd have gotten more storage, but only one device)
For the TDP changing issue, you can just download a program like the Ryzen controller to change it on the fly. Alternatively you can dual boot steamOS and change it on the fly like you would on steam deck
Want to add this machine is also great for music production. Its compact, has a touch screen and you can add (fast) storage. Its not cheap, but you can use it everywhere and its an eyecatcher
I love how their getting slightly larger each time, next review linus is just going to be reviewing a 13' laptop with a gaming controller attached to it.
The big problem is that they are too small of a company to be able to order custom screens. They can only buy what's available. So it was a choice between staying smaller with an OKish keyboard and a small portrait screen with massive bezels, like the Max 1, or going a little bigger and having a large landscape display with small bezels and a far superior keyboard. And the benefits of a landscape display in Windows are massive if you like to play old DX8 games or games in exclusive full screen.
As someone who owns both GPD Win Max 2021 (last year's model) and the Steam Deck, I can only sing praises for this thing. Also it may be larger than SD when opened up, but when you close it and put both of them in their cases, the Steam Deck takes up WAY more space.
I got the GPD win max and don't see much of a reason to upgrade as the keyboard and screen seem like the biggest upgrades but I don't type very much and the larger size seems counter intuitive for such a small device. Still, this is a really cool second gen for this product line. They are an innovative company.
I love GPD products. They are always soo interesting. I’ll never have the money for one of these but I do run a GPD P2 Max (2022 refresh) and it’s a lovely and powerful laptop that fits in my purse.
I appreciate GPD. After your video about the P2 Max I was convinced and bought it. I really liked the device but after 2 years it just stopped working. No boot, only fan spinning up for a bit. I tried troubleshooting on forums but nobody would respond. I wrote to GPD as well and they wanted to charge me $150 for the sole privilege of them looking at what's wrong, and then (they said) if it was the motherboard it would cost $500 (!!!) to replace it. These prices are set so that nobody ever sends anything to them for repairing. Also, after lots of diagnosing the laptop turns on 5 min at a time, then bluescreens. I am pretty sure the problem is with the CPU itself or with the BGA solder underneath it. Which is a consequence of the poor design of the cooling system - the laptop ran very HOT. I seriously hope this product is better but I will avoid buying GPD because their tech support just sucks. So you take a big risk when deciding to buy GPD.
Seems like taking a step backwards, to take two steps forwards. Over all, a big improvement over it's prior models of the GDP line if you ask me! I wonder if I want to make this my next Laptop unit, as the current one I have is at the end of it's life.
I've been considering a steam deck for almost a year now, but this might have sold me- I dig the portability and multi-fumction use of something like this, especially when emulation requires more integrated keybinds than what many 3rd party gamepads offer.
This one is 1000+ $ vs 500+ for Steam Deck. And it is probably worse as gaming deice due to lackluster joysticks and higher weight. I belive this is cool computer, but that not console like experience in Steam Deck also.
@@slavakhudyakov3807 just get a controller, you already have a better experience with this than with steam deck, and also the fact that this has a better desktop experience than broken KDE on steam deck
@@nikoraasu6929 well, than just get Xbox if you also in a mind of getting controller. No? What the point of portable device for which you need a controller? E.g. XBOX 3x cheaper u get 20 CU with 12 if you already planning to use it with external controller… some very niche use case tbh. Controller on small 10 inch screen
These handheld pc gaming devices really need oled before I can even consider buying one of them. Oled is such a huge quality improvement for no computation cost, it should be obvious at this point for these lower performance devices.
Ya, playing my steamdeck for an hour, then going to my phone to look up something or answer a message is jarring. My phone is a 3k OLED at 120hz, and its not even a flagship device.
RDNA2 is just a massive improvement over Vega and luckily GPD implemented solid cooling solution. Probably with liquid metal you could squeeze few extra degrees. I only wish the BIOS would allow a bit more sophisticated OC or would have supporting software to assign max wattage to GPU and run at 2400MHz even if CPU(APU) is not set to max. Also, I kinda wish GPD would make "OneGX Pro like" device with attachable "joycons", but done properly, GPD way. It would also allow for more space on motherboard and casing, probably low profile RJ-45 connector and WWAN/5G or even larger heatsink with more fins, that would also allow to be thinner at base because wouldn't have to accomodate the joysticks. I think it would be bit more ergonomic for joycon play style, for WASD it's the same except that (would be nice to have FLIR thermal image) in case of device running hot and heat transfers to keyboard for WASD playing and probably if playing with joysticks/d-pad, the way to hold the device probably isn't particularly good for sweaty hands, it probably gets pretty hot and makes hands even more sweaty, which could lead to device slide in hands.. But it's definitely device worth considering, I think it's the most capable of all 6800U implementations, but the "non-console" design has its own pros and cons, this truly can be used as normal computer because it aactually is, despite "others being as well, but not". It's also great for dual boot Windows11/HoloISO ("steam deck OS") with OOB support. I bet that despite its size it probablt performs better than other 6800U laptops, I'm really impressed with cooling performance from what I've seen in reviews and also according to previous GPD devices performance..