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The Only Dogfight of Desert Storm 

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The US-led coalition entered the war against Iraq with a healthy dose of respect for their opponents. The Iraqi Air Force had years of actual combat experience and operated some capable fighter types such as MiG-29 and Mirage F1. Initial clashes however demonstrated the superiority of American fighters, especially F-15C and among them, especially the men of the 58th Tactical Fighter Squadron, known as Gorillas. One of its pilots, Capt. Cesar 'Rico' Rodriguez took off from Saudi Arabia on a high-value assets CAP. But changes were made during his sortie and he, along with his wingman Craig 'Mole' Underhill would get involved in what some call the only true turning dogfight of Desert Storm.
This DCS World reenactment was created with the help of channel's friend Valley. You can follow him on Instagram @valley1_1
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Sources:
- Steve Davies - Osprey Combat Aircraft 53 - F-15C Eagle Units in Combat
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- Mike Guardia - Skybreak: The 58th Fighter Squadron in Desert Storm
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- The Fighter Pilot Podcast - Former F-15 Eagle Pilot Describes Desert Storm MiG Kills
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- Combat Story (Ep 12): Cesar "Rico" Rodriguez - F-15 Eagle Fighter Pilot | Three Air-to-Air Victories
• Combat Story (Ep 12): ...
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@major_kukri2430
@major_kukri2430 2 года назад
I remember seeing this on the history channel's Dogfights series. Now they only talk about alien conspiracies and other unimportant bullshit. Rodriguez is a hell of pilot though. My respects to him.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
I guess that's more profitable. I agree on Rico, he's special.
@major_kukri2430
@major_kukri2430 2 года назад
@@showtime112 The fact the it's more profitable says a lot about the consumer.
@MahakaSubrata
@MahakaSubrata 2 года назад
History channel back then: oh no 2 plane fighting each other in the air let's see what the pilots says History channel: HOLY FUCK IS THAT ALIEN IT MUST BE ALIEN THAT BUILD THIS 2 BLOCK OF ROCKS AND STACK IT ON TOP OF EACH OTHER HOLY SHIT
@guaporeturns9472
@guaporeturns9472 2 года назад
@@major_kukri2430 Yep.. we have a country full of people who were raised by sensationalist media rather than level headed parents. This is the end result. Thank god my home doesn’t have that shit on the tv.
@damienwilloughby
@damienwilloughby 2 года назад
I love that Dogfights show. Now Showtime 112 gives me the hit that I need.
@AirForceBuilder
@AirForceBuilder Год назад
Rico's daughter would earn a Comission in the Air Force as an Air Battle Manager - an AWACS controller. I was an instructor at Tyndall when she was a student in the 9 month Formal Training course. He came and gave a Keynote address at her graduation. We had seen 4 Star Generals, and actual celebrities come as honored guests to graduation ceremonies before. But none of them got the rock-star reception from everyone in attendance that Rico did!
@showtime112
@showtime112 Год назад
I didn't know that, thanks for contributing info!
@estellemelodimitchell8259
@estellemelodimitchell8259 2 года назад
“Rodriguez was chewed by his Wing Commander but it was worth it”. Haha, that’s a nice one. Thanks for the great video and narration. Enjoy watching your work.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
The guy was just insanely jealous 😁 Thanks for this positive feedback!
@acebubbles5023
@acebubbles5023 2 года назад
This is easily my favorite way to learn about skirmishes and aerial victories. Love your content!
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
Thanks, I'm glad you appreciate these videos!
@mustang1912
@mustang1912 2 года назад
@@showtime112 This was not the only dogfight of the gulf war. On February 19th a kill was falsely attributed to SA 2. Two falcons were intercepted by fulcrums over baghdad, one of them escaped and the other one was never heard from. There was also a B 52 lost over the gulf, another hornet lost over the water, and an A 6 and any of these could be unreported air to air kills.
@jayjay53313
@jayjay53313 2 года назад
@@showtime112 there's a pair of F-15E gotten into dogfight with mig-29 but unable to acquire lock for the AIM-9M due to AN/APG-70 software issue. The Iraqi Mig-29 was later splashed by F-15C that came to aid the F-15E
@flanker8724
@flanker8724 Месяц назад
@@mustang1912But by that time the Iraqis were mass evacuating their jets to Iran… and also the last reported air battle took place in late January between F-15s and MiG-25s…
@johnlyngdal8601
@johnlyngdal8601 2 года назад
"Rico" pushed his F15 into 10G, yes 10G turns, to turn the tables on the MiG during the engagement. He was both a tough and skilled pilot. A snap salute to him.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
Exactly.
@CaesarCassius
@CaesarCassius Год назад
LOL Just a couple of missile kills and his 3rd "kill" just flew into the ground, nonsense dogfight
@thepigmaster8193
@thepigmaster8193 Год назад
@@CaesarCassius That's called a maneuver kill. They are very valid
@covercalls88
@covercalls88 Год назад
@@CaesarCassius I'd give Rico his kill, he's alive and the other pilot is dead, it the end it's who is alive and flying is what counts. Best of all, all Rico did was expend some fuel and didn't need to waste a million dollar missle.
@Madnot4
@Madnot4 Год назад
@@CaesarCassius clueless
@PointlessGunSyncs
@PointlessGunSyncs 2 года назад
Brought me back to the Desert Storm episode of Dogfights, great job!
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
Those were particularly interesting. Thanks for commenting!
@ratagris21
@ratagris21 2 года назад
Rico Rodriguez is the only pilot to shoot 3 enemy jets in the last 30 years. Like Maverick in Top Gun portrayed as the same. He may noy have buzzed the tower, but still chewed out just like Maverick. 🎩♠🎱🏁🎯🌸🏵🌼💙💛🌻🇺🇸🍀
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
Thanks for commenting!
@Sandeepmkd
@Sandeepmkd Год назад
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@nemiw4429
@nemiw4429 Год назад
Why r u so happy he killed other humans above their own territory? U dont seem happy about Russia doing this? 14:25 he even killed a Serb brother. Now I can only wish for Karma to make its turn & take his life, with the same violence when he went to Serbia & murdered a Serb over his motherland. Im a Croat.
@michaelpascual3581
@michaelpascual3581 Год назад
I thought there were four pilots that are members of the Three-Kills Club of the USAF? Cesar Rodriguez joined Thomas Dietz, Robert Hehemann and Robert Wright(F-16 pilot that shot down 3 Soko J-21 Jastrebs in a single mission in Operation Deny Flight)
@nikbhatnagar9024
@nikbhatnagar9024 7 месяцев назад
@@michaelpascual3581 Thats correct.
@my-yt-inputs2580
@my-yt-inputs2580 2 года назад
I used to work with Rico in the mid 90's after GW1. Great dude.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
Yeah, he doesn't seem to be a stereotypical cocky fighter pilot.
@box8brewing829
@box8brewing829 2 года назад
I was there on the ground during this time. Thanks again for the excellent reenactment of military history events, well done.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
Thank you for your support, I'm glad you like the content!
@i.setyawan
@i.setyawan 2 года назад
This is the coolest kill in ODS. I've read about it before, although to my recollection not as detailed as this reenactment. Bravo!
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
Thank you! I've learned that when I do these videos, I get a much better picture about the events I cover than after just reading about it.
@springbloom5940
@springbloom5940 2 года назад
Toward the end of DS an Eagle driver *bombed* a Mi24 out of the air. Dude tossed a GBU10 at it. When we found out about it(I was with 297th MI-BN), we thought it had to be utter bullshit. Nope. Not really that crazy, when you think aout it critically, but still.
@RocketPropelledGuy
@RocketPropelledGuy 2 года назад
Instant subscribe. There's so many good DCS channels it's hard to find them all
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
Thanks! I'm hoping there's still plenty of people like you 😁
@MrBond-uq2tg
@MrBond-uq2tg 2 года назад
This is fantastic ! Thank you for the reenactment. Everyone wants you to do the Mig-25 shoot down of the Navy F-18 on Jan. 17, 1991. Is it possible to do?
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
Thanks for the positive feedback! Not yet sure about the MiG-25 success against F-18. MiG-25 in DCS is AI only. At least, ED should update its external model which is low polygon and at least ten years old.
@greggstrasser5791
@greggstrasser5791 2 года назад
Good to see the Americans laid low every once in a while.
@agdgdgwngo
@agdgdgwngo 2 года назад
@@showtime112 I think it's the same Foxbat model from Lock On, so it's more like 20 years old. It's a dream module for me, wouldn't be much use but who doesn't wanna fly the fastest operational interceptor?
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
@@agdgdgwngo I'd certainly buy it 😁 ED is updating some old AI models such as B-1 and B-52. Maybe it's a good thing they haven't said anything about updating the MiG-25. Could be an announcement for the module? Let's hope so.
@ramzibrikha4948
@ramzibrikha4948 Год назад
Trust me he will never do that one
@donparker1823
@donparker1823 2 года назад
This channel is the best part of my Saturday morning.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
So nice to hear something like that, thanks!
@fallward917
@fallward917 Год назад
There is an Iraqi channel run by a former Iraqi pilot. He has a lot of videos interviewing pilots involved in dogfights and air missions from the Iran war to the 1991 Gulf war, unfortunately his videos aren't translated so its not really available for a wider audience but nonetheless his videos are really interesting and detailed.
@showtime112
@showtime112 Год назад
He should consider doing English subs at least. Shouldn't be too hard to find someone who can do that.
@AICW
@AICW Год назад
What's the channel name? Even if it's only in Arabic.
@fallward917
@fallward917 Год назад
@@showtime112 The guys pretty old guessing that he served the IrAF in the Baathist era, his editing skills are basic as well so he doesn't really get much recognition even amongst Iraqi audience, that and most Iraqis have long forgotten those wars. His stories tho are pretty interesting when he directly interviews pilots involved in aerial action.
@fallward917
@fallward917 Год назад
@@AICW Its called "صقور الجو العربية", he may sometimes sound a bit patriotic if you understand Arabic tho thats because he served in the IrAF and because his audience is mainly Iraqis, other than that his content is underrated.
@AICW
@AICW Год назад
@@fallward917 Thanks bro EDIT: A few of the videos on the channel have English titles and subtitles for them.
@daviddebord2132
@daviddebord2132 3 месяца назад
Met Col Rodriguez as an instructor in Florida. Real nice guy and solid Eagle driver!
@showtime112
@showtime112 3 месяца назад
Thank you for sharing! I heard several accounts from people meeting him and everybody seems to like him. Not your typical alpha type fighter pilot.
@new-wave2941
@new-wave2941 2 года назад
Hvala ti puno sto si napravio ovaj kanal, imas odlican naglasak engleskog jezika, jako neutralan i lep naglasak, pritom imas lep glas, hvala ti na objektivnosti.Thank you for making this channel you are so objective
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
Puno hvala na ovom pozitivnom komentaru! Spominjanje glasa me podsjetilo na neke gledatelje koji su biki krajnje kritični (zvučim kao da se gušim ili dosadno kao da čitam priručnik 😁)
@michaelpascual3581
@michaelpascual3581 2 года назад
I smashed the like button before the video even started. I know the vid will rock. I see F-15, mi gusta! But I can't wait for your first F-4 Phantom video.
@ratagris21
@ratagris21 2 года назад
Same here.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
Thanks for your trust! I'm also looking forward to doing stuff with Phantom. The only problem is which story to choose first, there are so many 😁
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
Thanks!
@Maverickf20
@Maverickf20 2 года назад
@@showtime112 Definitely some Israeli F4 stuff, there’s no shortage of awesome A-A battles with Israeli phantoms
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
@@Maverickf20 I might start there, sure. Especially something on the Syrian front where we have the right locations.
@FD1CE
@FD1CE 2 года назад
Tremendous effort as always to make such clean and historic reenactment.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
Thank you for your positive feedback!
@TheGreyAreaBetween
@TheGreyAreaBetween Год назад
I'm pretty certain this was not the only dogfight. I seem to recall an EF-111A Raven (Sparkvark) getting a maneuvers kill on a Mirage F1 during desert storm as well. I may be recalling incorrectly, but I think it was during Desert Storm.
@jlock611
@jlock611 Год назад
You’re not far off. An F15 entered the engagement to aid the F111. The enemy aircraft smashed into the terrain (CFIT) thus giving the F15 pilot the maneuver kill. Really interesting story either way.
@jlock611
@jlock611 Год назад
You’re not far off. An F15 entered the engagement to aid the F111. The enemy aircraft smashed into the terrain (CFIT) thus giving the F15 pilot the maneuver kill. Really interesting story either way.
@billb7876
@billb7876 Год назад
Our Tornado bombers had their sidewinders removed because one of ours went chasing a Mig. Its just not British ffs
@Marod05
@Marod05 2 года назад
Excellent video! Congratulations, my brother! It's time for ED to include the Boeing F/A-18E/F Super Hornet in DCS WORD!
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
Thank you for your comment! As for the Super Hornet, so far now news but in a couple of years, who knows?
@jiceBERG
@jiceBERG 3 месяца назад
Great video. Great channel now that i look at the other videos. Thank you!
@andrewbartczak5941
@andrewbartczak5941 2 года назад
Alway great content! Your product is just as good, and in some ways much better than 'Dogfights" from the history channel.
@andrewbartczak5941
@andrewbartczak5941 2 года назад
I forgot to add something. I was in the command post working the night Rico got his last Mig. I was able to congratulate him when he landed.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
Thank you very much! Dogfights' graphics are quite dated by now and they focused mostly on American pilots while I try to give a wider picture.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
That's a cool story and a moment to remember, I imagine!
@narcos5598
@narcos5598 2 года назад
It's always a moment of pleasure seeing your new video, as always amazing history, editing, ecc 👍
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
I'm glad you think so, thanks for the comment!
@virgilius7036
@virgilius7036 2 года назад
Proof that the dogfight is over today. All battles are fought from afar with missiles!
@sohrabroozbahani4700
@sohrabroozbahani4700 2 года назад
A moment of loss of situational awareness... a very lethal error...
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
True. Hard to get, easy to loose.
@damienwilloughby
@damienwilloughby 2 года назад
I love that Dogfights show. Now Showtime 112 gives me the hit that I need.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
Thank you for this feedback! I intend to keep it up longer than two seasons 😉
@damienwilloughby
@damienwilloughby 2 года назад
@@showtime112 Thanks buddy😁
@alaric3415
@alaric3415 2 года назад
Brilliant video once again!
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
Thank you, I'm glad you liked it!
@guinnog2
@guinnog2 2 года назад
Beautiful reenactment as always.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
I appreciate your comment!
@wes11bravo
@wes11bravo 2 года назад
I distinctly remember hearing the audio back then from a Saudi fighter pilot as he smoked an Iraqi fighter, "BANDIT DESTROYED! BANDIT DESTROYED!!!". The guy was totally overjoyed!
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
True. It doesn't happen every day 😉
@dbeasleyphx
@dbeasleyphx Год назад
LOVE the historical content!
@showtime112
@showtime112 Год назад
I'm happy to hear it, thank you!
@abbaerfani9007
@abbaerfani9007 2 года назад
there's one more dogfight in the time it was MIG 25 in fights
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
Yeah, that one could fit in the category too. But you need to have a cool title 😁
@cming9423
@cming9423 2 года назад
Correct. Major Larry Pitts. History Channel.
@johnharris6655
@johnharris6655 2 года назад
Battle of Samara.
@gamer_f1043
@gamer_f1043 2 года назад
It's good to see humans used for reenactments instead of AI!
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
This should be a lot more frequent from now on.
@fargo007
@fargo007 2 года назад
Subscribed. Awesome content. Keep the videos rich with all of the history please!
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
Thanks for watching and subscribing. More content coming up!
@DiaconescuAlexandru2024
@DiaconescuAlexandru2024 2 года назад
The dogfight scene was even better due to the new DCS fire effects and I really liked the aileron roll you did above the runway, I expected you to land normally but then I realised that this is DCS and you can do whatever you want in it even if it violates countless flight safety rules :)
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
Actually, that's what Rico did in real life to celebrate his victory. I just emulated it.
@DiaconescuAlexandru2024
@DiaconescuAlexandru2024 2 года назад
@@showtime112 yup, for some reason I thought you'd follow flight safety rules and not do that aileron roll like Rico.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
Oh, that 😁
@madzen112
@madzen112 Год назад
Visually identifying enemy MiG-29s sound like quite a harrowing task!
@showtime112
@showtime112 Год назад
Under certain circumstances, it isn't easy. They also had trouble identifying MiG-25 from certain angles.
@brianhiles8164
@brianhiles8164 2 года назад
(04:30) Does *DCS* actually account for the speed of sound [of explosions] as well add in the subtlest of “camera“ jiggles [as the blast wave arrives]? Very impressive.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
Yes, that is simulated in the game.
@nekomancer4641
@nekomancer4641 Год назад
man when the Mig did the split-S, I was like... that's really close to the ground...
@jwbflyer
@jwbflyer 2 года назад
Thanks for the video!
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
Thank you for commenting!
@nicholascollora6709
@nicholascollora6709 Год назад
I LOVE the opponent who agreed...
@bazej1080
@bazej1080 2 года назад
Depending of the definition of the dogfight, we can call the air combat between two F-15 Eagles and two MiG-25PD, 19 Jan 1991, all the kills were achieved well within visual range. US pilots stated afterwards this MiG-25 pilots were very skillful, knew how to break the lock to come to the merge and combat was tough requiring many AA missiles to be fired. Cheers
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
I could agree with you. That MiG-25 engagement can be qualified as a 'dogfight''. On the other hand, you need to have some bombastic title for the videos, otherwise most people just ignore them. I don't like it but I don't see a way around it.
@bazej1080
@bazej1080 2 года назад
@@showtime112 wow, i didn't know that, i have you subscribed, i see a new video, i click to entertain seeing any historical recreation air combat Cheers Oh, BTW, you can make a video about this F-15 and MiG-25 combat as well in the future, some great material for the video
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
@@bazej1080 There is a basic core of viewers that watches all the videos but only some of them reach wider audience. F-15s against MiG-25s is interesting. I will probably need some kind of a mod to make the MiGs flyable. And I would really like to see some new 3D model for the Foxbat, this one is ancient.
@everythingman987
@everythingman987 Год назад
In my opinion this is better than History Channel Dogfights version of it. For one, the graphics are much better and the F-15 doesn’t look like a half polygon half clay model. And besides the modern Air Force logo you actually got the tail marking right! History channel reused the F-15 CG model from their Yugoslavia episode so the Eagles all had LN tail codes from the 493rd FS.
@showtime112
@showtime112 Год назад
Thanks for the feedback! CGI made a lot of progress since the time of Dogfights. You have a commercially available simulation which looks better running on an average PC than what was then a professional production. I also noticed in an episode or two that tail codes were not exactly accurate in the show. Funny, you'd think they had guys who did the research.
@phamanh30926
@phamanh30926 Год назад
Rico's A10 experience definitely helped
@showtime112
@showtime112 Год назад
What do you mean?
@dado76cro
@dado76cro 2 года назад
Super video...sviđa mi se kako si stavio na početak isprepletenu sliku kao rezoluciju iz početka 90-ih.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
Hvala! Još uvijek nisam 100% zadovoljan efektom. Ima još i fora sa VHS razlijevanjem boja ali moram malo usavršiti tu tehniku.
@Knorsky
@Knorsky 2 года назад
Lijepo je vidjet da nasi igraju DCS
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
Igraju, igraju. Ima nas još :)
@Knorsky
@Knorsky 2 года назад
@@showtime112 ja sam bio igrao sa ekipom dok je bio jos lock on.. imate neki tim?
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
@@Knorsky Onako, donekle. Dođi na Discord server, tamo ima lokalne ekipe koja i leti skupa.
@skykeg4978
@skykeg4978 2 года назад
Great presentation again!!!!!
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
I appreciate your comment!
@pablopeter3564
@pablopeter3564 2 года назад
Thanks for your video, it is an aviation historical fact. GREAT JOB, keep on working. CONGRATULATIONS ¡¡¡¡¡¡
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
Thanks, I don't intend to stop anytime soon 😁
@ralphlitton8521
@ralphlitton8521 2 года назад
I couldn't imagine going up against an F-15 back in the day. They just dominate the sky.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
So it seems. But sometimes when you listen to pilots' accounts, not everything went so smoothly and things could have gone differently on occasions.
@cristobalalvarez5491
@cristobalalvarez5491 2 года назад
@@showtime112 yeah but those occasions were little to non
@johnharris6655
@johnharris6655 2 года назад
I would not want to go up against an F-15 today.
@ralphlitton8521
@ralphlitton8521 2 года назад
@@johnharris6655 - True, unless I was in a F-22.
@ralphlitton8521
@ralphlitton8521 2 года назад
@@cristobalalvarez5491 - Yes, but through out the world I think the F15's record is something like 105 to 0.
@KolyaNickD
@KolyaNickD 2 года назад
To be fair the Iraqis must have had some very competent pilots with good combat experience against Iran. You need all those awacs and much more to fully control an arial battlespace though. Poor guys.
@cristobalalvarez5491
@cristobalalvarez5491 2 года назад
Nah they deserved it
@ismailkm1
@ismailkm1 Год назад
Zombie WMDs killed them.
@fallward917
@fallward917 Год назад
All the odds were against them from the beginning, the coalition had the quantity and quality. Iraq's poor leadership doomed a country that would've remained a dominant regional power for decades.
@valley6636
@valley6636 2 года назад
Pleasure to help :)
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
It was nice having some help!
@major_kukri2430
@major_kukri2430 2 года назад
Thanks for helping us see this video.
@John_Redcorn_
@John_Redcorn_ Год назад
Legend has it Rico’s wing commander told him if he ever pulled a stunt like that again he’d be flying cargo planes full of rubber dog poop out of hong kong.
@showtime112
@showtime112 Год назад
Wow, that guy was so incredibly lame in his envy 😁😁😁
@raynic1173
@raynic1173 Год назад
Ha, ha, you think he said "ghost rider, permission to buzz the tower". At least in his head he did.
@domovinivjerni
@domovinivjerni 2 года назад
pozz za Valleya, uskoro i ja u videu ;)
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
Još da proširiš RAM pa da možeš instalirati Siriju..... 😁
@domovinivjerni
@domovinivjerni 2 года назад
@@showtime112 na ljeto ☝️
@shwarz442
@shwarz442 Год назад
Bello! Istruttivo per gli avvenimenti esposti! Un like.
@showtime112
@showtime112 Год назад
I'm grateful for the feedback!
@julianlau5579
@julianlau5579 2 года назад
Hello Showtime 112, another excellent video uploaded. Thanks. Just one question, the original MIG29 has a secondary air intakes on each wing root area so that the main intakes could be closed when taking off from sandy airfields. Does this feature appear in DCS?
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
Thanks for commenting, I'm glad you liked the video. As for your question, the intake ramps and secondary top intakes are fully modelled in DCS.
@julianlau5579
@julianlau5579 2 года назад
@@showtime112 Wow, that is interesting. I would like to try how it feels. Thanks for letting me know.
@That70sGuitarist
@That70sGuitarist 2 года назад
Strictly speaking, this wasn't the only turning dogfight in Desert Storm. If memory serves correctly (and it usually does), one US FB-111 crew was credited with a "maneuvering kill" against an Iraqi Mirage F-1, thus making them the only Aardvark crew ever credited with an air-to-air kill!🤣 From what I read about the encounter, an Aardvark was bounced by a hostile Mirage F-1. During the ensuing fracas, they somehow managed to make the Iraqi pilot fly right into the ground! I'd love to see a recreation of that particular fight!🤣
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
Strictly speaking, this might not be the only dogfight of DS. Sadly, unless you make your video titles bombastic, people just ignore them. As for that EF-111 kill, it's controversial. It seems that Capt Graeter was credited with it, along with another 'hard' Mirage kill minutes before. Graeter claims there were no EF-111s in the area at the time.
@sevenjobs4793
@sevenjobs4793 Год назад
Sir...That is not the only dogfight in gulf war ii ..you forget the one when the American fighter f18 super hornet was shot down by air to air missile( r40rd 29km away ) with it pilot, Captain mechael Scott speicher who killed in the first day of gulf war1991. By mig25 and captain zuhair dawood
@showtime112
@showtime112 Год назад
The word 'dogfight' does not mean any clash between two or more aircraft. It only refers to close, visual range fight when opponents can see each other and they maneuver hard to get into a good position to attack with missiles or guns. If a missile is launched from 29 km away, that really isn't a dogfight. There is another Desert Storm encounter which could be called that (F-15s led by Rick 'Kluso' Tollini against MiG-25s but you really need to have bombastic titles to get your videos noticed. With a 100% accurate title, the video would probably have about ten thousand views.
@capri7th
@capri7th Год назад
Yea u right
@kkarnet
@kkarnet Год назад
We were steaming out of Norfolk, stop off in Naples, Italy for supply, refuel, steaming next through the ditch, into the Red Sea.
@hiredmurderer6228
@hiredmurderer6228 Год назад
I cant imagine how horrible it has to be when you cant identify your target If you fire,there is a possibility he's a friend and youre committing treason,then you'll be jailed and remembered as a dishonor for your country If you dont but he's an enemy,you could lose a friend due to this and even your life.
@tontarioburgess1670
@tontarioburgess1670 Месяц назад
This happened in 1991 when the f15 shot down the MiG-25 the MiG-23 and the MiG-29
@Joan_30727
@Joan_30727 2 месяца назад
Show time 112, Yarhub this two youtubers they are the heirs of history Channel series documentary called " dogfigths" Great video 💪🏻
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 месяца назад
Thank you very much for this comment!
@duartesimoes508
@duartesimoes508 Год назад
Magnificent aircraft.
@showtime112
@showtime112 Год назад
I agree!
@cliffcox7643
@cliffcox7643 Год назад
TEAM WORK< MAKE THE DREAM WORK.
@elzorro7of9
@elzorro7of9 2 года назад
And then he woke up with sticky sheets and realised it was all a dream
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
Oh, you are one of those who believe that Desert Storm was a big victory for Iraq I guess.
@gnomisa
@gnomisa 2 года назад
Imagine experienced/skilled pilot in that Mig29 and with awacs support. Neusporedivo. Svakako su ameri imali bolje avione ali u bliskoj borbi i taj Mig29 bi bolje prošao sa iskusnim pilotima i uz podršku awacsa ili sličnog sustava nadzora neba.
@JohnWick-yh5kn
@JohnWick-yh5kn 2 года назад
Američki piloti smiju samo s daljine da se bore uz pomoć AWACS dok ne smiju u blisku borbu s MiG-29 jer ima bolje manevarske sposobnosti
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
Mislim da je irački nadzor još i bio relativno dobar u ovoj fazi. S tla doduše, na iz zraka ali očito je da je ona prva grupa bila vrlo precizno vođena. E sad, to što irački piloti vjerojtno nisu vježbali blisku borbu u tolikoj mjeri kao američki, to je druga priča.
@cristobalalvarez5491
@cristobalalvarez5491 2 года назад
The mig29 would suffer in cqc
@cristobalalvarez5491
@cristobalalvarez5491 2 года назад
@@JohnWick-yh5kn that ain’t actually true the f15 was actually and is better in cqc than the mig29
@gnomisa
@gnomisa 2 года назад
@@JohnWick-yh5kn Samo što danas jedan grippen i rafale i tu dobiju 29ku. Pregazilo ju vrijeme. A i ti close dogfighti su stvar prošlosti. Ali i dalje mi je 29ka jedan od najljepših mlažnjaka.
@user-xz9hu4rd2v
@user-xz9hu4rd2v 2 года назад
Rico was in Maxwell AFB for Air Command and Staff College while I was there for Squadron Officer School, in 1995 so between kills 2 and 3.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
Thanks for sharing!
@donbillings8408
@donbillings8408 2 года назад
VFA-81 Sunliners, fox1 and fox2 on a Mirage with a load of drop tanks and MK84s
@vaccuumrolls7243
@vaccuumrolls7243 Год назад
Kill?
@daetslovactmandcarry6999
@daetslovactmandcarry6999 Год назад
I wasn't aware.
@fredlister5077
@fredlister5077 2 года назад
Another gamer who was not there is wrong!!!! Over 250 Iraqi aircraft were shot down during Desert Storm. I was there OP2 Hotel.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
I'll really have to start collecting comments such as this one. It would make a hilarious video 🤣
@fallward917
@fallward917 Год назад
Lol bruh
@Neosuburban
@Neosuburban Год назад
Very well done. It really gives you a clear view of how stupid the rules of engagement were. Also seeing a 30 year old "modern" dogfight from the cockpit illustrates how worthless the gun is.
@showtime112
@showtime112 Год назад
Thanks for the comment! I suppose RoE was there to avoid blue o blue incidents, which they were very afraid of.
@Neosuburban
@Neosuburban Год назад
@@showtime112 No IFF? fox fox! Just kidding. There were several nationalities of aircraft involved.
@madzen112
@madzen112 Год назад
'Rodriguez decided not to follow' Lol
@reallybadaim118
@reallybadaim118 2 года назад
Poor fellow. The stress was more than he could stand.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
So it seems. Iraqis have a different version though.
@jaydeister9305
@jaydeister9305 2 года назад
Yeah, i made it to that war, my specs: 1.) part of 'last in, last out' crowd (deployed units) 2.) attached to 2nd Cos Com (2 CSS) 3.) ultimate destination: Log Base Echo (LBE) 4.) part of LEMCO (light equipment maintenance unit) 5.) attached to 18th Maint. Battalion 6.) MOS: 29M20 (extinct, but repaired direct line of sight, dual multiplex radios) 7.) at Khobar Towers, Dhahran, KSA for the 3 week scud missile attack. 8.) arrived in country January 15th 1991 9.) took a ride to the saudi air force base in Dhahran, to go the PX, close to the flight line, and umm...F-15's were taking off for missions. wheels up before the end of the runway ("okay, this was serious"). 10.) LBE, fine vacation destination, perfect for austere camping, plus the daily MRE (dark brown bag, you know the story!)
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
Thanks for sharing your experience!
@fatihdurmaz3490
@fatihdurmaz3490 4 месяца назад
Great job
@showtime112
@showtime112 4 месяца назад
I appreciate your positive comment, thank you!
@maccheese9072
@maccheese9072 Год назад
The F 15 is a beautiful jet
@showtime112
@showtime112 Год назад
Many would agree for sure.
@VladimirStevanoviclennon33
@VladimirStevanoviclennon33 2 года назад
Brave American Hollywood Top gunners!
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
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@mohamedazab8904
@mohamedazab8904 2 года назад
Very good content like always keep it up
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
Thanks, glad to hear you like it!
@vicentevasquez8162
@vicentevasquez8162 2 года назад
New sub, Nice vídeo.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
Thank you very much for subscribing and commenting!
@OnLyFuN1306
@OnLyFuN1306 Год назад
In this war we got hints how Russian jets had many problems and would not even lock and fire a missle even at very closer range, now with the war in Ucraine we can also see how the Russian airforce is lacking.
@pontiacGXPfan
@pontiacGXPfan Год назад
To think the wing at Eglin who flew these Eagles is now stuck flying F-35 lightnings
@showtime112
@showtime112 Год назад
Talk about a step back :)
@pontiacGXPfan
@pontiacGXPfan Год назад
@@showtime112 The F22 Raptor is more a spiritual successor to the gray Eagle. The wing at Tyndall also had Eagles which were traded off for the new Raptors
@mmmmburgerz9442
@mmmmburgerz9442 Год назад
Yeah and Kadena is getting the ax too. Nothing like turning in your Camaro for a beat up Pinto. At least the EX is coming.
@pontiacGXPfan
@pontiacGXPfan Год назад
@@mmmmburgerz9442 that helps some. I don't think the overpaid rookie can deliver on its promises
@miguellogistics984
@miguellogistics984 Год назад
F15, unlike Mig29 has no rearview mirrors, because F15 does not care what is behind him.
@tilohertel8523
@tilohertel8523 2 года назад
I am sorry to correct that there were at least two dogfights during Desert Storm. There was one when a MiG-25 shot down an F-18 in Western Iraq.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
You seem to think that any shootdown is a dogfight. The shootdown of Scott Speicher by an Iraqi MiG-25 was definitely not one. It was just a ground controlled intercept. The only aerial clash in Desert Storm that comes close is when F-15s led by 'Kluso' Tollini shot down Iraqi MiG-25s. Everything else was just intercepts.
@tsepheletseka5115
@tsepheletseka5115 2 года назад
I think that was more of a BVR kill than a dogfight. And besides, the Mig-25 is not a dogfighter. It's too bulky and heavy for the tight turns and maneuvering needed for close in dogfighting. It was designed to be a long range high speed high altitude supersonic interceptor. Its job was get high as fast as possible, intercept and destroy enemy aircraft at long range, and return to base.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
@@tsepheletseka5115 Exactly!
@cristobalalvarez5491
@cristobalalvarez5491 2 года назад
That’s were your wrong
@tilohertel8523
@tilohertel8523 2 года назад
You seem to think you know everything about a war, that happened more then 30 years ago. Have you been present, when the F-18 was downed? Do you think the pilot did not try to evade the R-34 missile? I got my information from a German special air journal, having access to Iraqi sources. To claim there was only one dogfight to bring down the whole Iraqi air force is bullsh**.
@billb7876
@billb7876 Год назад
Perhaps you could do one about the British Tornado that was shot down by an American Patriot battery?
@showtime112
@showtime112 Год назад
That is potentially an interesting story but it will probably wait until we get a proper high-fidelity Tornado module. They announced it recently.
@joelellis7035
@joelellis7035 Год назад
Other guy messes up and tries to do a split-S with not enough room, but Rodriguez gets the maneuvering kill. I say that one is debatable.
@showtime112
@showtime112 Год назад
Maneuvering kills have always been debatable. Some air forces don't attribute them to individual pilots. But fact still remains that the pilot who crashed was trying to avoid being hit and he was forced to make an error.
@joelellis7035
@joelellis7035 Год назад
@@showtime112 Well, I'm saying that the Iraqi pilot had other options available to him instead of that specific maneuver. He wasn't necessarily forced into that one action. It was his error in choosing the split-S at such a low altitude. There was a case also in the Gulf War where an EF-111 Raven was being pursued by an Iraqi fighter jet. The EF-111 dove to the deck to evade the Iraqi jet. The Iraqi followed and it ended up being a high-speed chase just above the desert floor. The EF-111 survived because the Iraqi jet eventually slammed into a hill. That, I believe, was justifiably credited to the EF-111 crew as a maneuvering kill since the aircraft had no offensive weapons, and literally had to use the terrain as a defense against the attacker.
@madzen112
@madzen112 Год назад
Can remember a story about a Saudi F-15 pilot that downed two Iraqi planes during Desert Storm, is that story up?
@showtime112
@showtime112 Год назад
Yes, two Mirage F1s. I didn't cover that story. Another channel did but I might give it a shot someday.
@eleventy-seven
@eleventy-seven Год назад
Awsome.....Brave as hell. HEROS
@MDsteeler1
@MDsteeler1 2 года назад
I thought I heard that a Saudi F-15 was in a dogfight with an Iraqi fighter. And came out on top.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
Saudi F-15s shot down two Iraqi Mirages during Desert Storm. It wasn't exactly a dogfight, more of an intercept.
@fallward917
@fallward917 Год назад
The Mirages or at least one of them was tasked with striking the US fleet in the gulf, when the Mirage was about to fire its missile it was shot down from behind by 2 Saudi F-15s.
@willwill5595
@willwill5595 Год назад
This is so cool!
@showtime112
@showtime112 Год назад
Thanks, glad you liked it!
@craig4867
@craig4867 Год назад
F-15 Eagle-104 kills 0 losses in air-to-air combat! That's why it's called the greatest air superiority fighter in the world! End of story!
@aresmilitaryaviation6254
@aresmilitaryaviation6254 2 года назад
Odlično 👍 Da li imaš saznanja o efikasnosti Remora ECM sustava na iračkom MiG-29 u to doba?
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
Hvala na komentaru. Nažalost, nemam ništa pouzdano oko uoptrebe Ramora na MiG-u 29. Znam da su ranije na Mirage F1 bili dosta efikasni tokom rata s Iranom.
@cristobalalvarez5491
@cristobalalvarez5491 2 года назад
The part we’re supposedly it was jammed by the other plane wouldn’t matter since they had the secondary lock on system which was irst
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
And how are you going to guide your Fox1 missiles with the IRST only?
@DCSMPVideos
@DCSMPVideos 2 года назад
Cool vid
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
Glad you liked it!
@DCSMPVideos
@DCSMPVideos 2 года назад
@@showtime112 check out my boring channel also :)
@JoeHinojosa-bd9hu
@JoeHinojosa-bd9hu Год назад
I BEEN TO THE DANGER ZONE! ⚠️
@TheTolz0
@TheTolz0 2 года назад
If an F-15 is involved it's not a dog fight! :)
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
Well, it fought some pretty single - sided battles 😁
@TheTolz0
@TheTolz0 2 года назад
@@showtime112 I still think pound for pound it may be the very baddest plane ever to be involved in combat...tech advances have made the 22 and 35 in a league of there own but the 15 will always be that guy!!
@TheTolz0
@TheTolz0 2 года назад
And also the time it has been in service and still a plane nobody wants to fight.
@bjornsmith9431
@bjornsmith9431 2 года назад
Who said Air to Air was to be fought by long distance fighting, you still have to be up close in dog fighting.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
Sometimes, yes. But generally, they were more intercepts than dogfights. However, it will be extremely interesting to analyze the current conflict in Ukraine and see what was really happening there.
@bjornsmith9431
@bjornsmith9431 2 года назад
@@showtime112 yes, hoping to get a proper analysis of the Russian Ukraine 2022 air combat too .
@vaccuumrolls7243
@vaccuumrolls7243 Год назад
I doubt that much air to air combat occurred on fair terms between UA and RU fighters, given UA’s relegation to R-27 use, but MiG-29s probably downed a considerable number of helicopters or Su-25s.
@railfan8444
@railfan8444 2 года назад
for videos like this where you reference other engagements you have covered, maybe you could put the links to those videos in the description somewhere?
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
You're right, I'll put cards with links at moments of reference. I haven't used those in a while.
@jagaszepielak2601
@jagaszepielak2601 2 года назад
Rico 8 years later shot down a mig 29 of Serbia air force and not yugosllavia. Yugosllavia was dismembered in 1994
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
I'm always puzzled by such comments and people like you. Everything you said was wrong and these things can so easily be checked online these days. But you are still so sure that I was the one who was wrong. Even your spelling of Yugoslavia is incorrect! Double l? Never seen that before. And where did you get the year of 1994? Talk about The Dunning-Krueger effect!
@WardenWolf
@WardenWolf Год назад
Realistically, a present-day modernized MiG-29 can give an F-15C (which has not been adequately kept up to date and is being phased out) a run for its money. But the Iraqi MiGs were not up to date even for the time. In a dogfight, though, it honestly would come down to the pilot. Both are incredibly capable aircraft of roughly equal maneuverability, although I think the MiG-29 may have a slight edge. America's advantage has always been pilot training. Our pilots, on average, know their aircraft far better than the average enemy pilot knows theirs, and we study enemy aircraft and how to defeat them. Regarding Rico's choice, I think going for a Sparrow shot was a mistake. If DCS is anywhere near accurate, he would have been well within the minimum WEZ for the Sparrow. Even a modern-day AMRAAM would have had trouble with that shot. He should have gone with a Sidewinder. If the MiG-29 pilot had maintained his turn instead of doing the split-S that killed him and dropped chaff, that Sparrow almost certainly would have missed. Instead he succumbed to the "gotta do something" panic that occurs when you get a lock warning, even when the right thing to do is stay the course because it can't hit you. Again, it comes down to training. Going for the Sparrow instead of a Sidewinder was a minor mistake. The Iraqi pilot's failure to recognize that he was inside the minimum WEZ, panicking, and doing an ill-advised maneuver was a fatal one.
@truta3715
@truta3715 Год назад
This is not always true. In the 1990s, Brazilian pilots were able to shoot down USAF F-16s, not once, but three times in a row in simulated dogfights. small detail: using a subsonic ground attack platform (AMX-A1) 🤣
@briancampbell369
@briancampbell369 2 года назад
I'm not an avid watcher and don't know the lingo. It would be better if you could show diagrams of the maneuvers so we can get a better idea of how things happened.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
Theoretically, yes. I don't yet have a proper tool to do something like that. There's software called Tacview which records movements form DCS and presents them in 3D but often, these scenes are patched from many small ones and it wouldn't work properly.
@tenkayruanaya2554
@tenkayruanaya2554 2 года назад
split s at a 1000 feet what a crazy pilot
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 года назад
That was probably a panic move.
@bobfairchild
@bobfairchild Год назад
surprise! low tech or no tech fight in the 90's!
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