The Perfect Trim for Precision Rifle Cases

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Trimming brass can be a tedious and frustrating process. Henderson Precision’s Gen 3 power trimmer makes it easier and better!
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@theshop5848 11 месяцев назад

I use the Giraud trimmer. I love this trimmer.

@donshaw9776 11 месяцев назад

I have the Henderson and I ABSOLUTELY love it. Thanks for all of your videos I have learned so much watching them. Keep up the amazing work

@WestVirginiaLRS 11 месяцев назад

I use Little Crow Gunworks trimmers in my drill press. Have one for all calibers I reload for. Once you get them set to your OAL your gtg. Great vid Gav 👍.

@robthompson3117 4 месяца назад

I use a homemade trimmer similar to the LE Wilson trimmer and a Lyman case prep station. I finish each case with a cut down 300WM case with an 8-32 screw through the primmer hole. I stuff steel wool in the case and attach it to my prep station. This polishes the neck and makes for consistent bullet seating.

@Bushmasterpilot 11 месяцев назад

I have the Henderson, one of the best additions to my reloading bench!

@Benroe-yz1nz 11 месяцев назад

I use the Lee 3 way power trimmer on my press. Been working great so far.

@Michael-cy6gx 11 месяцев назад

I've had the Henderson sines it first came out and love it. Accurate and efficient. Use it for 223 and 6.5. I wouldn't think of using anything else.

@yorickfpv723 11 месяцев назад

I’m new and not doing much volume so I’m using the Lee trimmer tool in my drill and then I use the Lyman hand chamfer tools (also in my drill).

@woodrowbrimm2805 11 месяцев назад

I've never heard of the Henderson before Still using my old Forster I've had for close to 40 yrs.

@fulltimepatriot4922 3 месяца назад

I love the Henderson trimmer!! Does trim to length and inside, outside chamfer in one process. Saves time and wear and tear on my fingers. Worth the cost by the time it saves. I enjoy trimming now and very consistant.

@Mrjaspgu 11 месяцев назад

I started with the Hornaday trimmer and it is junk! Switched to the l.e.wilson and loved it. Finally got the Henderson trimmer and am excited to use it!

@hank3152 11 месяцев назад

I really like the Wilson with power adapter and micrometer adjustable stop but it only trims. Use the Hornady case prep duo next that chamfers and deburs quite nicely for half the cost

@y0urab1 11 месяцев назад

Awesome video. Would be great to learn why you specifically settled on the Henderson over the Giraud. Thanks!

@tw9676 11 месяцев назад

I use a hornady case prep trio with an adapter that let's me thread a lee trimmer into one of the stations. The other 2 stations are chamfer and deburr. Instead of the lee chuck going into a drill you can hold it and let the cutter spin in the case prep trio.

@trevorj.8401 11 месяцев назад

I have a Giraud tri-way trimmer for .223 and I've noticed pretty close trim lengths within 2-3 thousandths of all my mixed range brass. My fingers do get a little tired after a few hundred cases tho 😅 so the Henderson looks quite nice 👍 👌

@TheAdam2877 11 месяцев назад

I just started trimming with the Lyman case trim express. At first I was having a difficult time getting consistent results and then I removed the overpowered spring that comes installed in it and everything was dead on after. Just have to go slower because you will run through cutters quick if you just jam every case in without the spring to help slow you down.

@gtroxlar8597 11 месяцев назад

I have a Henderson also. One of my best reloading investments.

@gregtruchot8826 11 месяцев назад

Looks nice! I used the Giraud trimmer for years. Now that I am doing less shooting, I am using my Wilson hand trimmer. Not as fast, extremely accurate and far less expensive. If you are going through a large quantity of brass, I am sure this would be a great tool to have.

@davidunderwood3605 11 месяцев назад

It's been so long since I started doing this. I started out with hand held Lee . Lyman universal for everyday hunting or target plinking. Forster for the gotta be best can be. Both can be turned by hand but I built a high speed d.c. motor drive for them on linear bearing tracks semalar to the trimmer your showing today. Did this 15 or so years ago. It saves on trimmer bearing surfaces and definitely keeps the arthritis from being aggravated as much. I like what you showed to day however when a person has muscle ticks or uncontrollable movements sometimes, trying to put a shell init holder and the cutter still spinning, I can see a possible ooops moment and so damaged fingers.

@30321495 11 месяцев назад

I currently use the Lyman Universal Trimmer. It's a manual operation but for the amount of brass that I work with, it suits my needs. The whole brass prep process is tedious and I'd love to gain some efficiency. That Henderson trimmer would be awesome. But at this time, I cannot justify the cost. Of the motorized trimmers that I have looked at, I think that this would be the one I'd go with. Maybe one day...

@bethandbillgardner7843 11 месяцев назад

I currently use the RCBS with the 3-way head. Works “just OK”… does the job but is soooooo slow compared to the Henderson. Ensuring the case is centered along the axis of the trimmer is more work too. I shoot Grendel in my AR for 3-Gun and had a ton of brass to process. Even at its slow speed, the RCBS was far superior to doing them all by hand. The Henderson is on my “things I need to upgrade” list!

@larryhoward7106 10 месяцев назад

My trimming tools is Lyman Universal trimmer and the RCBS hand held 17 to 45 champer tool. It's a bit slow but work well. I have done 5.56,243,6.5 creedmoor,270 win,308,30-06,7mm08,

@lilsnoop6035 11 месяцев назад

I love my Henderson trimmer. I had to change my brass prep process though due to the neck needing to fit over the mandrel. So after annealing I use a Short Actions die to bump my shoulder back 2 thousands without affecting the neck, due to needing the mandrel to slide inside the neck of the brass. I need this step prior to trimming as the brass can become longer after full sizing. Then I trim, chamfer & debur with the Henderson and then afterwards put through a neck sizing die which is set up to not affect the shoulder only the neck. It would be nice if someone sold different sized mandrels replacements for the trimmer heads based on caliber and final neck tension after using bushing or expander mandrel.

@RobinP556 11 месяцев назад

For precision stuff, which I don’t shoot very often these days, I use the Hornady case prep system. It’s slow but works for me. I do a lot more handgun shooting the last couple of years, that or AR15s, so bulk loading is my thing now. Unfortunately for me, I’m a paraplegic, so even though I’m using progressive presses I can’t load a hopper with cases so it runs a bit slower than it should. If you have any solutions for those of us that lack an ability to reach heights required for something like Dillon’s hopper I’d love to hear them

@jaycee30865 11 месяцев назад

Lee deluxe trimmer does it all. Sheesh. These look like such overwrought alternatives for vastly more money and no better result.

@tomphillips2608 11 месяцев назад

Sinclair sells a caliber specific item that will give you the max case length for YOUR gun. You'll have to sacrifice a case by trimming the neck way back and inserting this item. Closing the bolt will push it back at the point of nominal (SAAMI) dimension. Sinclair still reccommends using the official case length. In my 260 rem, the tool measures +.008" over the 2.035" SAAMI spec. Nice to know I won't be pinching bullets at max length.

@fordvg 10 месяцев назад

I have the Little Crow Gunworks World's Finest Trimmer 2 for both 223 and 338 Lapua Magnum that I like. But if you have to trim more than a couple hundred rounds your fingers get tired and sore.

@honeybadger4883 11 месяцев назад

I have a Henderson......and I have screwed up a LOT of cases due to it's shell holder and coarse thread stop. Be VERY careful with this trimmer.....I will use Gavin's technique the next time I have to trim.

@richardphelan8414 11 месяцев назад

I have a Forester Case trimmer I've been using for 50 years, for High quantity 223 I use a Dillon power trimmer

@andrewthatcher1737 11 месяцев назад

L.E. Wilson with the power head adapter all the way. No variation in trim lengths of my 7mm brass, Peterson. When preparing brass, I'm not out to run a foot race. Referring to the tortoise and the hair. Consistency is the name of the game which leads to precision.

@lmnhd1971 10 дней назад

No where near your precision reloading as I’m relatively new to reloading but after many videos and reviews, I went with the LE Wilson hand trimmer. So far it seems super accurate and repeatable but not really fast, small batches only so speed is no big deal yet. After that I just use a RCBS prep center for chamfer, debur and brushing the inside. Keep up the great videos and instructions.

@johnmorrow5085 11 месяцев назад

Still using my rcbs lathe type trimmer, takes forever to trim then chamfer. I need to upgrade for sure!!

@butchgiovannangelo8996 11 месяцев назад

You should give the RCBS three-way cutter head a try. Speeds things up. Inside and outside chamfer along with trim to length. Eliminates hand deburring.

@user-hf6on5nw8d 11 месяцев назад

I use the little crow on all my calibers. Turn it in my lathe. Very accurate and fast,

@scorch101 11 месяцев назад

I use lil’ Crow case trimmers for all the cartridges I reload.

@arniz87 11 месяцев назад

Why not mention the LE Wilson setup? I am using that with a power adaptor. Very consistent and smooth process. Does not beburr/chamfer so that needs to be done separately though. But for a 1/4 of the price over a Henderson unit, I'll take that.

@davecollins6113 11 месяцев назад

Started with a Forster about 43 yrs ago, still have it, still like it. I have tried a few different trimmers, Hornady, RCBS Trimpro 2, Hornady case prep/trim center, didn't like any of them. The only saving grace on the Hornady trim/prep ctr is the prep ctr on it, I made a mistake buying that POS. Don't like the shell holder setup on Hornady, maybe I'm just too used to the Forster, but, the Hornady one does roll around and has to be reset , which bugs me. Don't like the "unversal" setup on the RCBS Trimpro 2 shellholder either after trying it, it needs to be adjustable, and it isn't. A few yrs back I picked a 21st Century neck turner, then the lathe pcs for it, then the 3way trim setups for it, it works really well, no beefs, it works really well. That was over 6-7 yrs, probably cost me same as Henderson. Also have a 3way trimmer head for the Forster, works fine by me. I looked hard at Henderson, Giraud, Wilson about 8-9 yrs ago, had to buy a lot of custom stuff for them at the time, added up to too much loot for my tastes, and weren't as versatile as 21st Century was , for me. The first couple of versions, Henderson used Forster made cutters, and they didn't make everything I needed back then, still don't, even with the new cutters.

@PlunderAndPillage 10 месяцев назад

For my own information, would the shoulder to neck reference not be more suitable for accuracy since it directly influences how much time it takes the bullet to exit the case? I realize they are both important, just curious if one is more important than the other.

@BladesAndbullets 11 месяцев назад

yo great vid

@jameshalpin1580 11 месяцев назад

Enjoyed the video thanks just a question is it suitable for the venerable 45/70 brass

@codyjenn8785 11 месяцев назад

Thank you for the awesome video brother

@Emmett11221955 7 дней назад

I would like to see you evaluate the power lathe trimmer from 21st Century innovation. It has a lot of nice features but the only reviews I have found are by the company itself. I would like to see an objective evaluation before I commit such a large amount of money.

@carlread3494 11 месяцев назад

Looks awesome. I only use the lee press mounted trimmer. Much prefer a motorised one.😂

@toddb930 11 месяцев назад

Is the collet case holder like what was used on the original RCBS case trimmer?. It grabs onto the case rim?

@rockylongbrake1703 11 месяцев назад

Giraud works great for me

@xxshiftlockxx 11 месяцев назад

Ok, so I have a rather specific question here regarding trimming. There are two sides to the trimming topic here. One side is to trim it short of SAAMI, and the other is to measure the overall length of your specific chamber, and then trim to about .006 short of that length. The reason is to have the longest neck possible, and to help eliminate the formation of a carbon ring. Ok so here's my question. In my particular rifle, I used the Sinclair chamber length gauge and found the actual max length of my chamber. Right now the length of that is about .038 longer than my longest piece of brass after 5x firings. This length is also about .040 longer than SAAMI max. With that being the case, excluding consistency as that is the most important part, no need to debate or argue on that. Can a cartridge neck (6.5prc Lapua) even grow that long if I were to just not trim at all and only chamfer for better seating? With this much gap between my chamber (custom) and SAAMI max, how does one decide on where to set the overall length of your case?

@tiputipu777 Месяц назад

Lyman xpress and rcbs brass boss

@geraldmunk4660 11 месяцев назад

You didn't go into the adjustments for this trimmer! And from what I can see is an allen bolt, not very high tec on adjustments. I am on my second RCBS case trimmer and it does a nice job trimming my brass needs, and it has nice adjustment marks.

@builderone2469 2 месяца назад

I've owned a Lyman lathe style for years and still use it for pistol brass but I just found the Ugly annealer case trimmer and found it fast and easy and I'm measuring all trimmed cases to less than a .001 of each other. Usually less than .0005" but then I've got to inside and outside chamfer. I do that with a Milwaukee cordless screw driver and Sinclair tools.

@bob4003 7 месяцев назад

Is there a less expensive tool than the Henderson that does all 3 as well

@timchounard3851 6 месяцев назад

RCBS makes one... It's their standard horizontal trimmer with some upgrades to accommodate all three steps and a power drill attachment. I've not used it but I would if I needed to replace my current Hornady setup.

@mtnshooter2487 3 месяца назад

Expensive.

@jhorn64 3 месяца назад

so what does all this mean if I am not concerned with precision? I reload primarily for my milsurp rifles due to the cost of factory ammo now being a dollar per round for most of them now and all I really care about is that the round goes bang when i want them to and that the bullet lands somewhere on a man sized target.

@bob4003 7 месяцев назад

Henderson looks nice But expensive

@bones020694 11 месяцев назад

Take a look at the Lee case length gauge trimmer. That’s what I use. Talk about quick, accurate, and CHEAP

@johntownley9885 11 месяцев назад

And you can adapt to anything with 8/32 thread like my RCBS case prep center. It’s cheap and Super consistent and it’s cheap to get one for everything you load

@michaelbryant4026 9 месяцев назад

What’s the price . Love the equipment but the price may not be worth the trouble

@guybalasso3682 11 месяцев назад

after the cartridge is fully sized will it fit over the pilot? As I trim after fully prepping the cartridge

@TheAdam2877 11 месяцев назад

yes, you should not be trimming a case ever before sizing as the brass grows from the sizing process squeezing it back to size. That brass will make the case longer overall.

@davidstorey7541 11 месяцев назад

How much brass do you have for each caliber that you shoot? Plinking (unlimited), hunting (100-200), competition (~500)??

@guyminer3168 11 месяцев назад

Some cartridges that we shoot a lot here at UR, we have a LOT. Others not so much. I personally have a couple of thousand 308 cases from my years of shooting it in competition and for SWAT training. Others like the 6 Creed, only a hundred or so. It varies.

@masonmcneill3969 11 месяцев назад

I use my Lyman auto trimmer and I have a love hate relationship with it, it was giving me pretty inconsistent results at first because the amount of pressure you apply can really affect the trim length, once I trimmed about a thousand cases I started getting the hang of it but I really wish it had 3 way cutting

@99Victor 11 месяцев назад

How do you trim to size? I saw the chamfers, but I did not see how you trim to OAL w/trimming

@Ultimatereloader 11 месяцев назад

A 3 way cutter trims to length, plus chamfers inside, plus chamfers outside all at the same time.

@joem2554 10 месяцев назад

I use a lee zip trim. Looks cheap, feels cheap. Still going strong 15 years.

@michaeldunn150 11 месяцев назад

When do you anneal? before resizing?

@TheAdam2877 11 месяцев назад

Yes. Otherwise you negate the whole reason for annealing. I personally Deprime my cases using a universal depriming die, then anneal, clean, size, run through a mandrel, trim if needed and finally chamfer and debur the inside outside of my brass.

@xforce708 11 месяцев назад

I want a Henderson. But the price…..

@reloadrefine 11 месяцев назад

No Mention of LE Wilson? 😁🤓✅

@bartrice8278 11 месяцев назад

I have two LE Wilson trimmers and consider them the best manual trimmers.

@guyminer3168 11 месяцев назад

I've been using the Wilson trimmer for 20+ years. It is a good trimmer, no doubt.

@Hickamfield 11 месяцев назад

This thing costs more then my Dillon, i will just hand trim

@kuronyan3006Ackley 11 месяцев назад

✌️👍‼️

@jheasley1 11 месяцев назад

Love the Henderson three way trimmer! About a year ago, I found this unit that I like even better since it does the same thing, but also turns necks “second to none” ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8_2acz1GKLg.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NDzx3jdro4Y.html

@br4713 11 месяцев назад

Précision rifle class is the less demanding discipline in terms of accuracy. Just need the fastest and the easiest

@Sqwan2 11 месяцев назад

The problem is, all the automatic tools are way to inacurate. I would like to see a tool, that can do an ES of 0.001" over 100 cases. I even don't belive in 0.002" for the trimmer in the video. I would like to see a statistic with 100 cases trimmed. Most likely the ES is somewhere around 0.004"

@alandavis9454 11 месяцев назад

I think you’d be surprised by the amazing consistency of the Henderson (Gen3). If you really try hard enough, your technique can introduce a bit of inconsistency, but it’s built strong enough that normal operation will not cause flexing of the parts. Also, referencing the overall length makes it super easy/quick to verify (the same verification on the Giraud is a bit more time consuming since it’s referencing off the shoulder datum). Also, changing cartridge cases is very inexpensive on the Henderson for those reloading for more than one cartridge.

@Sqwan2 11 месяцев назад

@@alandavis9454 I would like to see it. I had a few and didn’t found them good. Now I am pretty happy with manual lyman trimmer.