The problem with Ingram is that he has some Tobias Harris in his game. They both love to pass up wide open 3s to dribble into contested mid range 2s… and Embiid loves to dominate that mid range area. Paul George, on the other hand, is an elite catch and shoot 3 point shooter who fits better with Embiid and Maxey. Ingram would have been ok but the Sixers also would have had to give up 2-3 Firsts for him. Signing PG and not losing any assets was probably the best move.
If Ingram was a free agent, then maybe I would have felt different but you’d have to trade for a guy with a questionable heart. That’s a lot to ask for.
I realize Ingram is flawed. But he’s also much younger and cheaper than PG. PG might only give the Sixers one great year before dropping off, while Ingram could give 4-5 more steadier years even if the ceiling isn’t as high. It’s a contrarian opinion, but if I had to choose between PG and Ingram, I’d go Ingram even if it cost like 2 firsts.
@@YossiGozlanNBA Yea but Ingram wants a max, right? So he would only be cheaper this season and then you would likely have to give a Max deal to a guy who probably isn’t worth a Max. Also, despite being younger, Ingram has also missed a lot of games because of injuries.
Really good explanation with all the sublties of cap management like signing Caleb Martin before Drummond to save some space. WIth what was out there I think Daryl Morey did a really good job so far. Anxious to see how he fills out those last 2 vet min spots.Everyone wants Marcus Morris and it's a feel good story but at this point he is a open door on defense and he never really was a great rebounder. I'd like to see either Nwora or Lamar Stevens or Osman for one of those spots - younger energy guys who can score a bit, rebound a bit, and defend.
Thanks! I agree that I think they did really well considering who was available to them. Especially with Caleb Martin that contract is a steal. I agree with you on Morris. I think Osman would be really nice. He’s definitely more than a minimum guy IMO.
I've never really been good with numbers especially this new 1st and 2nd apron but I completely understood it after watching this video. Your explanation is easy to understand and that deserves a subscription. Keep it up 👍
@@YossiGozlanNBA Yeah, my figures had Morey using up just about 100% of the actual cap space by the time they signed Drummond and Caleb Martin's contracts were adjusted. However, I had a $240 discrepancy, even after using your figures to 6 decimal places. Somewhere there should be a small error.
They took a massive risk and they kept their draft picks. That’s huge. As a result, their options are open either for a trade or for draft and development. When you consider that, it’s a great job and the only reason it worked is because of PG opting out. I still need to see them on the court but they should be in the mix. However, the team will still only be as good as Embiid’s health.
Yossi I have read that KJ could be traded from 15 January and get another player that doubles his salary becouse Martin´s contract 2nd and 3rd years are not guaranteed. Is this correct? How much salary player could we get using KJ straight on in february? and, sorry, i didnt get it... if we trade KJ and some minimum guys... could we sign another minimum players after? Thanks! Well Done!
The Sixers wont be able to take back more salary than they’re sending out because they’re over the first apron. They could either take back a $8M or less player for him individually. Alternatively, they can combine him with other players as long as they don’t take back more money than they’re sending out.
@@nachozgzc0 You are probably thinking about the scenario if a S&T of KJM for DFS had taken place. But that scenario had problems as it KJM would have to have been signed for like 30 M to take back 15 M as Yossi had explained due to Base Compensation. Then there would have been the issue that Nets would have had to agree, and they certainly would have wanted 2 first round picks. Besides fans are wrong about DFS. He's not as good as people think, and Morey surely knows that. DFS is a mediocre shooter and not a very good rebounder. He's only 6'7". Marcus Morris is 6'8" and can shoot, while Keve Aluna is 6'9" and a very good rebounder.
@@YossiGozlanNBA I seriously doubt Morey would do a 4 for 1 trade in order to get below the tax. Those other 3 players would be valuable. He would have to replace 3 players with new Vet Mins, putting them back over the Lux Tax. However, it certainly may be possible to get under the 1st Apron if trade KJM for some one on a rookie scale making around 4 M. The more generous new CBA matching rules would allow this, as long as the other team was below the 1st Apron. Its will be interesting to see, but its possibly 70% of the NBA will be either over the 1st Apron (includes over 2nd Apron teams) or hard-capped at the 1st Apron, but the trade deadline.
Thanks for the informative video. Was there any upside to giving KJ Martin an $8M deal rather than something in the $13M range? It seems like they've limited the players they can get back in a deadline deal just to save the owner a few million bucks, but maybe I'm missing something.
@@YossiGozlanNBA They would also be risking the other team not wanting to participate because it would be burdensome on them, both in terms of higher taxes and Apron consequences. So the lower 8 M figure increases the chance for other teams to do business.
@@YossiGozlanNBA If Morey can convince Marcus Morris to accept a 1 yr Vet Min (no team option), I don't think there will be room for Gordon Hayward. That's because there are currently only 4 guards - Maxey, Eric Gordon, Lowry and McCain (who has been a disappointment). Need to sign a bigger guard and Jeff Dowtin plays bigger, can shoot and is a very good ball handler. Dowtin has played the most minutes in Summer League, and in all 7 games - running the team. Signing Morris and Dowtin would bring roster to 14, and there are reasons Morey would keep a roster spot open. I expect 6'9" Keve Aluna to to get the 3rd 2 Way slot. 2-way players can always be changed.
@@jerry25a i dont like Morris. It is not a 2 way. But i was thinking about a move in February, which PF do you think we could get for 8 to 15 M who defends and rebounds?
@@YossiGozlanNBA Achiuwa is really a PF, but can't shoot. I was hoping Paul Reed would have cleared waivers, and then re-sign him for a Vet Min, as a PF. Reed has shown he can shoot 40% from 3 pt, although fans and coach didn't like his form. That Reed was grabbed up by the first eligible team to sign him off waivers, confirms he was worth his 7.7 M contract. Reed will be one of 4 Bigs for DET, and is young, so I doubt he is moved. Sixers need shooting. They will probably sign Keve Aluna to the 3rd 2-Way contract. He's 6'9" and can rebound and shoot so he could play up to 50 games at the PF position and could even jump ahead of Bona as backup when Joel is out. As a result they will likely keep the roster at 14, to allow Keve to get an NBA contract at end of season (or if have to take back 2 players when trading KJ Martin. Knicks have Achiuwa's full Bird rights, but I don't see them offering more than 5 M to re-sign him. Surprised no other team offered more than a Vet Min for him. At first I Knicks were going to be hard-capped at 1st Apron, in which case they would not have been able to retain Achiuwa. FWIW, I am pretty confident Morey/Nurse want to re-sign Marcus Morris as a stretch PF, they don't currently have. As a Sixer fan myself, its understandable you weren't aware how good Morris was contributing for the 2 months before the trade deadline. However, the hold up should be that Morris would want a PO for year 2 and Morey doesn't want that 2nd year (besides it would count as an extra 2.1 M towards the cap if he had a 2nd year. Sixers currently only have 4 guards under contract and Nurse loves good ball handlers. They are obviously testing out Jeff Dowtin (who already earned a Vet Min contract) as their 5th guard. Dowtin really has no weakness, TBH and has been the floor leader during the 7 summer games. Dowtin is a true Combo guard and a great ball handler and shot creator. Morey is probably checking out other options before re-signing Dowtin to a multi-year contract. First year would only count as 2.162 M to cap since 3 NBA years of experience.
The goal is getting enough salary, withoud 2nd apron, to have flexibility to get a 12-14 player in February. If we save salary we may wont have enough to get Jonathan Isaac for example.
