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The Politics of Dune Explained In FIVE Minutes 

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Explaining the politics of DUNE! Who is the emperor? What is the Landsraad?
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@embracediscomfort6154
@embracediscomfort6154 2 года назад
It’s also of note that this whole transfer of who controls Dune was a play from the Emperor to weaken BOTH houses. The Baron had to spend considerable funds and lives to retake the planet.
@BeeOppresion
@BeeOppresion 2 года назад
Yup! That's why I can't wait for part 2 of Dune. I want to see the Baron quake in his suspensors before the emperor's humble court noble
@chrisdoe2659
@chrisdoe2659 2 года назад
Yup, there are three basic types of power in this universe. Economic, military and political. The Atreides had a lot of political and military power, the Harkonnens had a lot of economic power. The Emporer was able to get the Harkonnens to wipe out the Atreides (almost), in a way that diminished most of their economic power.
@BeeOppresion
@BeeOppresion 2 года назад
@@chrisdoe2659 two birds with one stone
@pauldonvito6169
@pauldonvito6169 2 года назад
Whoa.. that just blew my mind. REALLY puts the movie into another perspective and adds such depth to the political landscape.
@josephninosky6057
@josephninosky6057 2 года назад
@@chrisdoe2659 Plans within plans ...
@leeatkins2081
@leeatkins2081 2 года назад
I think the most valuable thing you've done here, is create an almost entirely spoiler-free breakdown for Dune novices. I use Dune as my central text in some of the composition courses I teach, and I find myself endlessly editing my proposed necessary summary of the Dune text/universe so that we can all approach it with equal footing within a given course. That's hard to do without spoiling certain nuances of the story while also remaining concise, but I think you've achieved both of those qualities here. Nice job, dude.
@ronrendon
@ronrendon 2 года назад
Dude? Let me guess; you’re American. 😂
@CadetKosmov
@CadetKosmov 2 года назад
The only spoiler is at the end, saying that they need to keep Arrakis dry for the spice production. The movie and at least the fist half of the book I've read so far leave the question of why they don't terraform Arrakis to be more habitable open, at first saying it would just be too expensive. The guild doesn't even let Leto Atreides deploy weather satellites.
@siryozen9648
@siryozen9648 2 года назад
Watching a 5 minute lore video was very refreshing
@marvin2678
@marvin2678 Год назад
Huh?
@47Goonz1
@47Goonz1 Год назад
@@CadetKosmov thanks for spoiling it bro
@thesigmaenigma9102
@thesigmaenigma9102 2 года назад
Bill Gates, Elon Musk, and Jeff Bezos all fight over an entire planet of Cocaine. Got it.
@patrickeffendi1905
@patrickeffendi1905 2 года назад
Ass poop. Got it.
@taco2422
@taco2422 2 года назад
lol
@vehimouchas9743
@vehimouchas9743 2 года назад
The entire video summarized in one simple sentence. I love it.
@China2TXMan
@China2TXMan 2 года назад
And Amber Heard with Elon Musk's frozen embryos is the beginning of bene gesserit
@nicholasleclerc1583
@nicholasleclerc1583 2 года назад
More like Oil-Cocaine, to be more accurate
@lala2686
@lala2686 2 года назад
I’m not a movie buff and I don’t know a lot about movies as I’m just a casual viewer, but I can say, this movie is a huge breath of fresh air! I would definitely sit for 2 hrs 30 mins again for Dune
@wonderstuck-gg
@wonderstuck-gg 2 года назад
I just went and saw it again and I don't really like movies but my sibling does so we went again to a cheeper laid back theater.
@Gadget-Walkmen
@Gadget-Walkmen 2 года назад
@@wonderstuck-gg For and a WHOLE a lot of people, This WHOLE movie did justice to the original novel and story ENTIRELY and captured a lot of the visuals of the book through pure cinematic aesthetics and creativity as it’s fantastic and phenomenal movie and one of the greatest films of the 21th century already! MASTERPIECE of a movie here!
@Gadget-Walkmen
@Gadget-Walkmen 2 года назад
As I said, The new Dune movie is a MASTERPIECE!!! It’s fantastic and phenomenal movie and one of the greatest films of the 21th century already! MASTERPIECE of a movie here!
@maggs131
@maggs131 2 года назад
@@wonderstuck-gg sibling? 🤔 we say brother and sister here on earth 👽
@Zleets
@Zleets 4 месяца назад
Yup 😊
@goyasolidar
@goyasolidar 2 года назад
"We’ve a three-point civilization: the Imperial Household balanced against the Federated Great Houses of the Landsraad, and between them, the Guild with its damnable monopoly on interstellar transport. In politics, the tripod is the most unstable of all structures. It’d be bad enough without the complication of a feudal trade culture which turns its back on most science." -- Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohiam
@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl
@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl 2 года назад
What about Ben gessrit?
@goyasolidar
@goyasolidar 2 года назад
@@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl There's an interdependence between those three factions within the tripod. The Bene Gesserit are able to move in and out of that structure yet exist outside of it.
@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl
@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl 2 года назад
@@goyasolidar then it is four factions not three
@KarbinCry
@KarbinCry 2 года назад
@@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl it is said by a member of the Sisterhood. They don't see themselves as one of those three. They see it as... three unruly children, or pets, that they - the Bene Gesserit - has to wrangle together for the future of humankind as a whole.
@goyasolidar
@goyasolidar 2 года назад
@@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl As I've said, the BG intrinsically exist outside of the power structures of the Imperium and that's how they prefer it, moving behind the scenes and being beholden to none.
@kitirena_koneko
@kitirena_koneko 2 года назад
When talking about how manipulative the Bene Gesserit are, you need to remember that they're largely atheistic and have an entire branch, the Missionaria Protectiva, designed to deliberately manipulate WHOLE RELIGIONS to make their beliefs more favorable to the Bene Gesserit. They also have a long-term view of events measured in millennia because their leaders, the Reverend Mothers, have access to all of their ancestral memories on the female side throughout the history of humanity--meaning that a Reverend Mother knows everything that her mother, her grandmothers, their mothers and grandmothers, and so on back through time all knew.
@matthewnelson6103
@matthewnelson6103 2 года назад
@@stevenp3176 Indeed
@sophiaperennis2360
@sophiaperennis2360 2 года назад
Yeah but since they are women that means they actually don't know anything.
@Lodgiefitness
@Lodgiefitness 2 года назад
@@sophiaperennis2360 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@OjiOtaku
@OjiOtaku 2 года назад
Its not just the memories of the women but also the fathers and grandfathers who are breed for their genetics toward the goal of Kwisatz Haderach. See children of Dune and God Emporor of Dune to begin to understand why the Bene Gesserit test for humanity and kill those who fail the test.
@Princetonian4eva
@Princetonian4eva 2 года назад
@Ryan Mosey Way to inject unnecessary divisiveness
@gronksteady
@gronksteady 2 года назад
I've read Dune twice. It was one of the most challenging books ever endeavored (next to LotR). It was also one of the most captivating. But I feel like I missed a lot, and couldn't keep all the information together. This video really coagulated the content, and got me a little pumped to dive into my third read. Thanks for the content!!
@charlie-obrien
@charlie-obrien 2 года назад
"Dune", the first book any way, is good for at least 3 or 4 reads over time. There are so many concepts in the plot that become known once you are familiar with the book and Herbert's writing.
@chimdinduobidike3821
@chimdinduobidike3821 Год назад
How do I read dune
@gronksteady
@gronksteady Год назад
@@chimdinduobidike3821 buy the book and start from the beginning
@billygilmusic5072
@billygilmusic5072 11 месяцев назад
​@@chimdinduobidike3821just buy the book??? Nah I'm kidding 😅 there are 6 Dune books that the author Frank Herbert wrote. The 1st book, titled "Dune" is the one most people read, but if you like that one you can then read the other 5
@laylafiretruck
@laylafiretruck 10 месяцев назад
@@chimdinduobidike3821watching videos like this one for context before reading will help. It’s not as hard to read as people say so just go for it
@hou950
@hou950 2 года назад
I had no idea about dune until the 2021 movie came out. Then I found your channel when I wanted to learn more. Your videos got me into the books. I just finished Dune Messiah and already ordered Children of Dune 😄I’m so happy I found this series. I’m in love with reading again ❤️
@AntoniOrszykowski
@AntoniOrszykowski 2 года назад
Lol. Watch the old Dune to man as it has got bad ass moments too plus such actors as Sting and Patrick Stewart.
@JGComments
@JGComments Год назад
Stop it! Eyes are for screens. Leave your imagination and your critical thinking in the 20th century where they belong, along with handwritten notes and using a phone to actually call people. 😂 just kidding, that’s great lol.
@emy_2510
@emy_2510 11 месяцев назад
same, on your first point
@lpotts75
@lpotts75 6 месяцев назад
​@@AntoniOrszykowski Yes. It's a classic.
@HenningGu
@HenningGu 2 года назад
The way you used real-world companies and explained everything so well is gold. I had cursory knowledge of this but haven't thought of them like this way.
@jaredlesar
@jaredlesar 2 года назад
He had me at CHOAM = Space Amazon 😂
@paulm.8660
@paulm.8660 2 года назад
I loved that choamazon logo
@lewakar
@lewakar 2 года назад
Gekoloniseerd
@Gadget-Walkmen
@Gadget-Walkmen 2 года назад
@@lewakar What? what are you even saying?
@naheemquattlebaum2267
@naheemquattlebaum2267 2 года назад
Quinn the screenshot you've chosen for House Atreides with everyone waiting to leave the ship is literally my favorite shot in the entire film. There's something grandiose about seeing the entire house standing together as they arrive on ArrakIs.
@unwokeneuropean3590
@unwokeneuropean3590 2 года назад
Almost like Spaniards coming to central america... We come to rule you.
@intlvoiceofreason9239
@intlvoiceofreason9239 2 года назад
@@unwokeneuropean3590 yeah, that scene in Apocalypto still resonates with me
@Lectwar6
@Lectwar6 2 года назад
All I could think when I saw that scene was "oh shit, everyone in one place. they're gonna all die"
@emgee44
@emgee44 2 года назад
I was disappointed that they didn't show them folding space, they just went from leaving Caladan to walking out onto Arrakis.
@nineblessednineadorednined9214
@nineblessednineadorednined9214 2 года назад
@@emgee44 Legendary space folding sequence in the old movie, lol. I think it's because it's not really explained anywhere in the canon how it actually happens, so any depiction is fanciful. Even the navigators are still pretty mysterious to this day, not to mention how they operate. Dune is just a very mysterious universe all over.
@ranger4375
@ranger4375 2 года назад
Another thing that should be mentioned about spice is that it is literally what makes space travel possible for the Empire. The navigators from the Spacing Guild are heavily mutated humans that are have the ability to set courses to other planets and see the potential hazards for the voyage. They’ve gotten all of this power and mutations from spice. Without the flow of spice, there would be no traveling from planet to planet.
@quintusfabiusmaximus8700
@quintusfabiusmaximus8700 Год назад
dune is all about space crack
@Ballin4Vengeance
@Ballin4Vengeance Год назад
It would actually… in theory. I don’t know if the holtzmann engines run on spice, need spice to function or if only a navigator can operate them, but assuming the navigator only points the way, you could technically just yolo it and run in blind without guidance accepting the fact you most probably won’t make it to the finish line.
@maxpower3990
@maxpower3990 Год назад
@@Ballin4VengeanceOnly the Navigators need spice to see a safe page, the engines are all tech. In the prequel novels they did that during the AI war to win, use Holtzman engines in a blind jump. The attrition rate was about 10%per jump.
@samuelrodriguez8093
@samuelrodriguez8093 Год назад
Reminds me of the movie fantastic planet
@myrusEW
@myrusEW 9 месяцев назад
You definitely commented that before watching the video
@archvaldor
@archvaldor 2 года назад
I love the "We exist only to serve" mission statement of the Bene Gesserit, sums up the duplicity and mistruth of politics and organized religion.
@IBenJamin89
@IBenJamin89 4 месяца назад
The duplicity and mistruths found in SOME politics and organized religion. We ought to be careful with blanket statements put forth as all-encompassing fact.
@Tracydot3
@Tracydot3 2 года назад
I read the first three books but these videos help me fill in gaps of stuff I was a confused about. I need to reread the books again. I am watching Dune today in IMAX here in Bangkok. So excited!!!!
@lightupthedarkness6762
@lightupthedarkness6762 2 года назад
Oh, im jealous!!! Im also watching today in thailand, but in pattaya & no imax here... maybe its an excuse to go to bkk haha
@genmaicha.lapsang
@genmaicha.lapsang 2 года назад
Have a good time. It opened in Canada yesterday where I am.
@NicholasAlm
@NicholasAlm 2 года назад
Make sure to read all 6 books. Everything clicked by book 5, it was at that point I finally felt like I understood the Dune universe
@matienazemy1382
@matienazemy1382 2 года назад
What did you think of the books?
@AyaanKhan-tb2ot
@AyaanKhan-tb2ot 2 года назад
Just watched It ; Absolutely breathtaking. Must watch on the biggest screen possible
@KingOfMadCows
@KingOfMadCows 2 года назад
I always found it interesting that there weren't non-guild space travelers. Interstellar travel is still possible without Navigators, but there's a 10% chance the ship will be lost in every trip. That's certainly a massive risk but human greed has never been stopped by massive risk. There are periods in human history when almost half of mercantile and exploratory ships were lost. But the profit from such undertakings was so great that people were willing to take that risk.
@Aeolusdallas
@Aeolusdallas 2 года назад
I always assumed the guild muscled out any real competition that even considered getting around the ban
@KarbinCry
@KarbinCry 2 года назад
Noone who would have the resources has the need for it. Because the Guild is good at keeping everyone else comfortable with the Guild. The only party that could have both the means and the cause would be Ix, perhaps. And I am not sure about their motivation... Bene Tleilax has the obvious motivation, but they probably don't have the technical capability to make a ship that can "jump".
@misterjei
@misterjei 2 года назад
@@Aeolusdallas ...leaving only the sole traders, smugglers and privateers to pick up the crumbs?
@Aeolusdallas
@Aeolusdallas 2 года назад
@@misterjei well we know there are smugglers at the very least
@Dell-ol6hb
@Dell-ol6hb 2 года назад
Well there are still smugglers I assume, since they are mentioned in the series occassionally, I gotta assume they aren't guild affliated.
@kerbalengineeringsystems7415
@kerbalengineeringsystems7415 9 месяцев назад
The only other big detail that's worth mentioning (but barely addressed in the books) is that the Great Houses provide a substantial check on the Emperor's power by having independent access to nuclear weapons. They've banned them among themselves, but towards the end of _Dune_ it's heavily implied that if the Landsraad became aware of the crimes the Imperial House committed against Atreides, they would likely waive their prohibition of nuclear warfare in order to sink Corrino.
@michaelcraft6381
@michaelcraft6381 2 года назад
As a many times reader of the series, this was an excellent description of the politics of the Imperium; well done!
@gulliverdeboer5836
@gulliverdeboer5836 2 года назад
The political system of the empire in Dune is heavily inspired by of that of the medieval Holy Roman Empire (HRE). Even the term "Landsraad" clearly has a medieval German/Dutch root, just like you'd expect from the HRE. The HRE also had a council of noble families who had their own fiefdoms with a high degree of autonomy. Their leaders had various titles like "duke", "baron", or "prince", just like in the Dune empire and they officially elected the emperor, though often this was just a rubberstamp because an imperial house was so powerful (though never powerful enough to take on all the other houses combined, again just like in Dune) it simply had their male heir of choice confirmed by the electors. The HRE didn't have the Bene Gesserit but in many the Catholic Church had a similar role. Interestingly the HRE was torn apart in the 17th century (and never really recovered) by the Thirty Years War, a religious civil war between catholics and protestants that killed a significant portion of the population. I guess that's something that stuck with Frank Herbert in history class.
@Niniene
@Niniene 2 года назад
And, of course, the Bene Gesserit were based upon the Jesuits (hence the similar name). They didn't exist in the HRE, but substitute the Dominicans (or any other order) and...
@davidwuhrer6704
@davidwuhrer6704 2 года назад
There are similarities, and differences. House Corrino rules through military power. The emperor of the HRE was never a great military power, and both elected by a small subset nobles (not a Landsrat) who had inherited that privilege, and also invested by the Catholic pope. The emperor was not always the male progeny of the previous emperor, in part because not all emperors had male progeny. And, unlike kings, the emperor could not invest and divest nobles under his jurisdiction at will. The emperor and the pope jointly invested the bishops of the empire, but only the pope could divest them again. The HRE was disbanded by Napoleon Bonaparte in the 18th century. (Purely by military might; he was not a member, let alone the emperor, of the HRE.) The Thirty Year War was the most terrible war Europe had ever seen, and inevitably part of the HRE was part of that war. It did not tear apart the empire though. Members of the empire had been at war with each other before and afterwards as well.
@gulliverdeboer5836
@gulliverdeboer5836 2 года назад
@@davidwuhrer6704 House Corrino didn't rule through military means: it's literally said that the combined military power of the Landsraad would overpower House Corrino, just like in the HRE. The Ottonian and Habsburg dynasties definitely had powerful armies of their own. I'm unsure why you think the Landsraad is anything other than a small group of select nobles.
@TheAventine
@TheAventine 2 года назад
'The Holy Roman Empire was Neither Holy, Nor Roman, Nor an Empire' - Voltaire
@gulliverdeboer5836
@gulliverdeboer5836 2 года назад
@@TheAventine Haha, yeah, and the Empire of the known universe was neither an empire nor encompassing the known universe, so it fits really well.
@gutika113
@gutika113 2 года назад
Creators who make content for a niche subject, and then that subject blows up due to something happening outside of their control (like a movie release) deserve all of the new views and support that comes along with it. Thanks for making awesome sci fi content and I hope all of this new dune interest brings your page more success 🤘🏽
@lenhorn9170
@lenhorn9170 2 года назад
devon grousis: 👏👏👏👏👏
@shreyasrd2034
@shreyasrd2034 2 года назад
This video was made a week ago what r u talking about
@jordanoneill7052
@jordanoneill7052 2 года назад
@@shreyasrd2034 He;s been making Dune videos for years. But also worth noting that this channel was successful back when Game of Thrones was on too becuaes it used to be mainly a GoT channel, so it's not entirely luck
@joshuagregoire9504
@joshuagregoire9504 2 года назад
Yup
@jangolub8240
@jangolub8240 2 года назад
Dude, he knew what he was doing 🥴
@Jasmine-ho9iz
@Jasmine-ho9iz 2 года назад
As someone who’s reading dune, this was really helpful! Just like when i first read GOT, the first book has a lot of new information that is hard to keep up with and easy to get mixed up. This simplified a lot!
@GeroldGarthcia
@GeroldGarthcia 9 месяцев назад
Quinn has the best Dune content, and really helped reignite my love for the books. Im so excited for part 2
@tracys169
@tracys169 2 года назад
I love how you use Amazon, and the GOT to illustrate your point hahaha...I'm just choked up over Space Amazon...
@warestari2000
@warestari2000 2 года назад
George RR Martin wishes he could do court politics as well as Frank Herbert, lol
@reflectcard6258
@reflectcard6258 2 года назад
@@warestari2000 George Martins politics is just to create fake dinners that turns to be manslaughters and other types of gore trauma
@o-wolf
@o-wolf 2 года назад
@@reflectcard6258 where do you think he got the idea? The red wedding &noble warriors leading their families into traps was a DIRECT lift from dune Hell without dune &berserk GOT probly wouldn't exist
@reflectcard6258
@reflectcard6258 2 года назад
@@o-wolf I know, I was just stating, and Martin seems like he really like to do that
@rdf4315
@rdf4315 2 года назад
I love berserk but I don't think kentaro miura had any inspiration on George's writing I could be wrong but I doubt it .
@afterburner94
@afterburner94 2 года назад
Ngl but Quinn's casual tone in these latest video is awesome. I was used to the super serious tone from the former videos, but hearing him just explaining the lore in a casual way to newcomers the way you would do at a party to some friends is refreshing. Keep that attitude and tone Quinn, imho, it's way more appealing to people eager to know more.
@zb1123
@zb1123 2 года назад
^ this. These videos are great, and will be super accessible to those that haven't read the books!
@David-xg5uu
@David-xg5uu 2 года назад
So Dune is the middle east, and the houses are the rest of the world fighting for oil.
@redtreestimeline8960
@redtreestimeline8960 3 месяца назад
I was thinking just that!
@alexram5679
@alexram5679 2 месяца назад
More like opiates. Don't get the oil comparison
@OutOfLineX7
@OutOfLineX7 2 месяца назад
@@alexram5679 without oil the world would grind to a halt
@TheKOzality
@TheKOzality 2 года назад
As a fan of the book, the 1984 movie, the mini-series, and now Dune (2021) you masterfully summarized the politics of the Dune universe so well. What a great primer for both the old and new fans alike. Excellently done.
@chrundle00
@chrundle00 2 года назад
I tried to read Dune so many times, but it was just too dense. The movie blew me away, and you've been the perfect guide to finally getting into the series
@EsotericCat
@EsotericCat 2 года назад
First two books are completely worth it, the other four of the main series are way denser and not as interesting. The ladder 8 books are great for simplicity since they are written by frank herberts son who was not as great a writer
@zz7073
@zz7073 2 года назад
Can't relate, books are so good with a lot of thinking involved. Hard not to enjoy.
@blackpyxy9583
@blackpyxy9583 2 года назад
Audible my friend. I’ve listened to so many books I don’t think I would have been able to read lol. Also good narrations.
@chrundle00
@chrundle00 2 года назад
@@blackpyxy9583 that’s exactly how I ended up getting through it, it was fully voice acted so it was a great time
@Shan_Dalamani
@Shan_Dalamani 2 года назад
@@EsotericCat The first 3 books written by Frank are Paul's story. God Emperor of Dune is the story of Paul's son, Leto II. The next two books focus on the Bene Gesserit, who have come to power 1500 years later. Frank died before finishing what was to be the final novel. Then his son and Keven J. Anderson saw $$$$$, pretended to find "notes", and wrote copious amounts of bullshit that prove that if the notes existed, they were not followed, they don't understand the source material, and write for an audience that like explodey stuff and blood/guts/gore - but no intelligent philosophy that will make people debate it decades after.
@Mephistolomaniac
@Mephistolomaniac 2 года назад
"CHOAM is space-amazon" mind blown, and somewhat disturbed
@csffee6093
@csffee6093 2 года назад
Jeff bezos
@TraceguyRune
@TraceguyRune 2 года назад
Spacing Guild is NASA
@emgee44
@emgee44 2 года назад
Duke Elon Musk?
@thehuman3077
@thehuman3077 2 года назад
It's almost here. First: Musk Heavy Industries. Then: House of Elon!
@Consumer-nn1fq
@Consumer-nn1fq 2 года назад
@@TraceguyRune SpaceX
@SparkTheGenius
@SparkTheGenius 5 месяцев назад
Just re-watched it last night with my dad, in anticipation of seeing Dune 2. Your explanation makes things a lot more clear. you should be given us gigs speaking for five minutes before every screening of one or two anywhere in the world.
@emilejanse2672
@emilejanse2672 2 года назад
Hey this was really good. One part that I think wasn't mentioned is the Fremen - the natives of Dune who have their own mysticisms and prophecies that tie in very strongly to the story. I also just realized that Fremen breaks down to "free-men", one code I hadn't noticed before.
@PrinceAzura
@PrinceAzura 2 года назад
tbf the fremen religion and mysticism is mostly just the bene Gesserit's tampering. Before the Atreides arrive on Arrakis, the fremen are very much removed from the politics of the imperium
@-my4skinwastakeninasickjew426
@-my4skinwastakeninasickjew426 2 года назад
How about Benne Jeserit…. (Jesuit 😉)
@uddeshdesai6523
@uddeshdesai6523 Год назад
I think bene Jeserict planted those prophecies
@isabellebesancon
@isabellebesancon 9 месяцев назад
There is also Ix and the Tleilaxus.
@ares106
@ares106 2 года назад
This is the perfect “explain dune to me in 5 minutes” video. It misses a lot of the details and some of the history, but for the sake of brevity it serves as a great foundation.
@StayFractalesque
@StayFractalesque 2 года назад
did he 'miss' those details then, or are those topics for another day.. "brevity is the essence of wit"
@Gadget-Walkmen
@Gadget-Walkmen 2 года назад
@@StayFractalesque He didn't "miss" anything, he just explained everything that NEEDED to be explained for the context of THIS movie alone. Not unnecessary explanation that would confuse people.
@Sam_T2000
@Sam_T2000 2 года назад
I always had the impression that Caladan was the ancestral home of the Atreides(es?), and their “ownership” of it was deeper than simply being assigned to it by the Imperium… same with the Harkonnens on Geidi Prime. Arrakis was a special case, with no Great House of its own, where stewardship was assigned. am I wrong?
@murdeoc
@murdeoc 2 года назад
I don't actually know but this is how I see it too. It seemed to me that all great houses have their own 'home planet' besides the planets they are charged with. The Corrino family being somewhat of an exception bc they messed up their original home world but since they are the emperor family they just took another.
@abundanceintheson_316
@abundanceintheson_316 2 года назад
Not wrong. You are 100% right.
@lizajameson7339
@lizajameson7339 2 года назад
They were assigned to it around 1500 years ago. Before them, it belonged to another house and the Atreides were a minor house millennia before that.
@Sam_T2000
@Sam_T2000 2 года назад
@@lizajameson7339 - seems like 10,000 years is enough to establish ancestry… my point being, wouldn’t the people of Caladan still be loyal to the Atreides(es), rather than the house appointed to replace them? also, follow-up question… why did the Harkonnens get Arrakis AND Geidi Prime, when it seemed like the Atreideses had to give up Caladan to take control of Arrakis?
@abundanceintheson_316
@abundanceintheson_316 2 года назад
@@lizajameson7339 That is information written by Frank Herbert's son and not canon. He has not upheld the canon and brilliance of his father's world. I would not hold what he has written as "Dune fact".
@CharmingReality
@CharmingReality Год назад
This is brilliant. Particularly your use of real world examples to illustrate the concepts within the books/films. Well done
@andrewwright1982
@andrewwright1982 6 месяцев назад
Outstanding video. Felt so much more engaged in the lore just by listening to this. Concise and complete, thank you.
@sofamiller7133
@sofamiller7133 2 года назад
“Every airline” Not just that. Every shipping company-all the container ships that come and go from every port.
@seukfuhi
@seukfuhi 2 года назад
Quinn, I just discovered your channel, and it truly is one of RU-vid's hidden gems. You have a new subscriber ; -)
@thisguyaintfunny1881
@thisguyaintfunny1881 6 месяцев назад
This is gonna resurge again with part 2 coming out soon, and im all for it!
@aaronscott183
@aaronscott183 2 года назад
Excellent breakdown! I had a general idea of how it all worked but this really ties it all together with real world comparisons.
@KillboyMetalhead
@KillboyMetalhead 2 года назад
Spoiler alert!! Don’t read beyond this if you plan on watching the movie! I found the ending prob the most profound part. The Fremen act as if they could care less if Paul and Jessica existed: EXACTLY as I perceived in the book. Additionally Paul is confused as to what his visions/dreams were about: a life for a new life…until faced with that situation. Then in that instance he sees that it’s not his life to be lost, but rather his death/rebirth after taking a life (a person dies to some degree when taking life, but can be reborn when the act is out of honor). Immediately after, all of the Fremen make a point to touch Paul as he walks by…not necessarily out of compassion but to them something more significant. They were validating him and his decision: ‘we now see you’ ‘we now recognize you as a person who has significant honor’ And you are who we hoped you would be.
@davidwuhrer6704
@davidwuhrer6704 2 года назад
That scene flagrantly deviates from the book, in that the fight takes place in the open and also not in underwear. It doesn't make as much sense, but it is more dramatic this way. I find Jessica's answer to Stilgar's inquiry unsatisfying. It makes sense, but the audience might not realise that her answer is not the actual reason why Paul fights the way he fights.
@NowhereMan789
@NowhereMan789 2 года назад
Very cool analysis!
@SantomPh
@SantomPh 2 года назад
Paul is validated 3 times in the movie. His test with the Reverend Mother confirmed that he is not a mere instinct based man and has deeper thoughts than expected of men. His near-death with the Hunter Seeker showed that he was not the careless fool he was earlier and then when meeting the Fremen he is accepted as one who exists within their circle.
@SantomPh
@SantomPh 2 года назад
@@davidwuhrer6704 Jessica can't tell him "Paul is used to using a shield" since she has no idea who he is or how the Fremen fight.
@davidwuhrer6704
@davidwuhrer6704 2 года назад
@@SantomPh I don't understand. Surely Lady Jessica would know her own son, and that the still suits aren't shielded. In the book they even fought in their underwear.
@Ohbehave21
@Ohbehave21 2 года назад
Quinn one of your older Dune videos got me into reading all the books and I just wanna say thanks! I love your content and I am so happy to see so many views on this vid. GJ!
@brydakam1168
@brydakam1168 Год назад
dude, this makes so much sense, currently reading the book and somewhat confused at times, but you summed it up great and now it all makes sense
@meiamymei
@meiamymei 2 года назад
It always makes me happy when one of your videos passes a million views. Nobody deserves it more than you 👑👑👑
@Gadget-Walkmen
@Gadget-Walkmen 2 года назад
Complete agree! FANTASTIC video for newcomers!
@kuryamtl
@kuryamtl 2 года назад
Very well done. I really hope the Prequel Series will show in full detail how powerful the Bene Gesserit are and how the Imperium wouldn't exist without them. Loved the point of how the Baron Harkonen and Duke Leto are products of the cross breeding program of the Bene Gesserit.
@Coridimus
@Coridimus 2 года назад
It warms my heart to see Atreides and Harkonnen banners displayed with in-universe colors
@TomorrowWeLive
@TomorrowWeLive 2 года назад
If only the people were in in-universe colours. Instead of this blackwashed travesty.
@NiceEvils
@NiceEvils 2 года назад
@@TomorrowWeLive wait so those banners in the video are the correct colours?
@heilmodrhinnheimski
@heilmodrhinnheimski 2 года назад
@@TomorrowWeLive Stfu, Dune is literally set in a Middle Eastern-esque desert planet, how is it “blackwashed” for these characters to be the most appropriate skin colour for that environment?
@MichaelCasanovaMusic
@MichaelCasanovaMusic 2 года назад
@@heilmodrhinnheimski Black people in any media role=blackwashing. haven't you heard?
@BeanWaterJunkie
@BeanWaterJunkie 2 года назад
Thank you for this video! I'm about halfway through the first book and this definitely helped me understand everything so much better
@JasonChamberlain
@JasonChamberlain 2 года назад
I love how the book feels like ancient history despite being sci-fi set thousands of years into the future. This empire feels so small compared to maybe the empire in star wars or even the federation in star trek.
@pedroeldiablo811
@pedroeldiablo811 Год назад
It's not small at all, we just don't have a lot of info precisely on how big it is and and other, minor houses. What we know for sure from the second book is that there are over 10.000 planets colonized by humans, hundreds of billions of people, maybe thousands of billions humans.
@SonOfJ
@SonOfJ Год назад
@@pedroeldiablo811 thats huge, but (pretty well thought out) estimates from the star wars empire say there's about 100 quadrillion citizens. That's 100 billion times a billion. I guess in that comparison the dune universe seems a bit small.
@cedriceric9730
@cedriceric9730 Год назад
Lmao 😂, nothing absolutely nothing could be further from the truth A single guild highliner could beat the entirety of the starwars and star trek Dune is small because all living humans are addicted to spice which allows a small group to control what is otherwise impossible to control, dune is a universal empire, starwars and star trek would probably be isolated and ignored . That's how big dune is
@cedriceric9730
@cedriceric9730 Год назад
​​@@pedroeldiablo811 True , even 10000 must have been propaganda considering how easily the scattering happened. They didn't just start exploring , they just knew where to flee and finally go where they wanted without guild dictates 10000 was what the emperor was allowed to control by the guild As for the strength, its horrifying even cause the tleilaxu must have had tens of thousands of worlds and yet they were considered " weak" and couldn't quite attack a major house or the witches Who in turn could not dare the emperor most worlds were peaceful colonies who ignored the empire most of the time and couldn't be forced to fight
@paulsanford358
@paulsanford358 2 года назад
I just finished the first book last week and watched the movie yesterday. This was an excellent explanation. You actually cleared up a few details from the book too. You earned my sub my man. :)
@j0nnyism
@j0nnyism 2 года назад
The book does explain this all anyway though
@Gadget-Walkmen
@Gadget-Walkmen 2 года назад
@@j0nnyism yes but it's not clear as the book is HIGHLY complex so it's important for others to break things down for them. That's why the op comment said "You actually cleared up a few details from the book too" because the book isn't easy to read at all.
@gasmonkey1000
@gasmonkey1000 2 года назад
Great video as always man. I heard that the CHOAM were comparable to OPEC but honestly you comparing CHOAM to Amazon makes a lot more sense. I always wondered if maybe the noble houses had their origins as the families of CEOs, Executives, and Board Members of various economic cabals. Gotta love the constant backstabbery (that's a word now) and manipulation in Dune.
@matthewblackwelder6487
@matthewblackwelder6487 2 года назад
I'm not sure it's a shame or a good move that they didn't really bring up the CHOAM shareholders and Noble/imperial House venn diagram being basically a circle.
@queeniegreengrass3513
@queeniegreengrass3513 2 года назад
It's nobles houses then 'CEOs, Executives, and Board Members of various economic cabals', because capitalism evolved from feudalism to mercantilism and finally today's imperialism/capitalism. Up until 1900ish most/all British Prime Ministers had been Lords.
@davidwuhrer6704
@davidwuhrer6704 2 года назад
@@queeniegreengrass3513 We have replaced the landed aristocracy with a moneyed aristocracy.
@MrDarrylR
@MrDarrylR 2 года назад
That totally makes sense. Duke Bezos XIII, Baronness Nancy XC of the House Walton.
@LowestofheDead
@LowestofheDead 2 года назад
Harkonnen is bald because they're descendants of House Bezos
@heracleum3353
@heracleum3353 2 года назад
Amazing video mate, spoiler free and super informative! I've just started reading the book and this is a great help, thank you!!
@Turnkeys42
@Turnkeys42 9 месяцев назад
Just discovered your channel, love all the history, lore and the deep dives into notable houses and power structures. Well done. :D
@nailinthefashion
@nailinthefashion 2 года назад
your videos have always performed well but i'm so glad the views are spiking with its theatrical release. this series is phenomenal, and your channel truly does it justice. thank you for sharing your passion
@mistere9099
@mistere9099 2 года назад
Love the Amazon/airline analogies.
@janesmith-uy1xi
@janesmith-uy1xi 2 года назад
The movie blew me away, and you've been the perfect guide to finally getting into the series
@DoctorSpicy
@DoctorSpicy Год назад
I search for an explanation and I found it now I need to watch it twice. Thank you.
@nlfdlens
@nlfdlens 2 года назад
Dune with cross 200 million this weekend! Part 2 is looking good!
@hamzanajji8615
@hamzanajji8615 2 года назад
At least WB got their money back , seeing the issue with COVID I guess they will lake part 2
@diverguy3556
@diverguy3556 2 года назад
@@hamzanajji8615 don't they need to get double the budget to get their money back. Hollywood accountancy.
@nomindseye
@nomindseye 2 года назад
@@diverguy3556 I think it's a good rule of thumb. But because of that Hollywood Accounting, we will never actually know what it makes or what it cost to make. So... yeah, it's all guessing.
@TheLazySleeperLives
@TheLazySleeperLives 2 года назад
Sequel was just confirmed!
@mikedonnit972
@mikedonnit972 2 года назад
This is required viewing by everyone who watches the movie. Especially those who’ve never read Dune or see the 1984 version. Keep up the good work man.
@davidwuhrer6704
@davidwuhrer6704 2 года назад
The 1984 movie confuses more issues than it clarifies.
@kentbeitel9966
@kentbeitel9966 Год назад
I would like to try some of that spice 😂🥺
@alternavent
@alternavent 2 года назад
Good stuff. I’ve seen several of your videos and I approve.
@delmarchipperson2049
@delmarchipperson2049 2 года назад
I can’t believe I actually saw the movie!! This channel has had me so worked up for so long!! Awesome channel!!
@stevekillgore9272
@stevekillgore9272 2 года назад
The movie is crap
@alicexmelo
@alicexmelo 2 года назад
I'm very new to your channel but I already love it! This videos is very objective. I'll send it to my boyfriend whom doesn't know the whole universe of Dune, yet watched the movie and loved it.
@MrRhysmerritt
@MrRhysmerritt Год назад
I'm new to Dune, at almost 40 years old - and this video was brilliant for me. Thanks so much for creating it. I'll be checking out your other content and subscribing for sure
@DrTaylorMarshall
@DrTaylorMarshall 6 месяцев назад
This is great. Well done. 👍🏻
@mrowr4097
@mrowr4097 2 года назад
Quinn, your content and presentation has made a difference to me over a tough year. Thanks and good luck always
@technopirate304
@technopirate304 2 года назад
Brilliant. You have truly become my go to guy for explaining Dune to the novices. In fact I recommend your channel to other RU-vidr who try to digest Dune without any research.
@saraholivares4747
@saraholivares4747 2 года назад
Pretty amazing actually how well all of this was conveyed in the movie without a lot of unnatural expository dialogue.
@Gadget-Walkmen
@Gadget-Walkmen 2 года назад
PHENOMENAL film and a masterpiece of modern sci-fi cinema entirely! LOVE this movie for what it was able to achieve and be and I’m so glad many others agree for what it was able to achieve!
@mattp1664
@mattp1664 2 года назад
as someone who loves the first book, you did a masterful job compressing it into 5 minutes.
@iwcialol120
@iwcialol120 2 года назад
I'm currently reading the 3rd book - but despite this, some of the stuff was still very difficult to understand and quite unclear! It's amazing how well you've explained this! :D
@widjiro
@widjiro 2 года назад
i want to read the books too, but my english prevents me
@iwcialol120
@iwcialol120 2 года назад
@@widjiro the books were translated to many different languages! You should see if you could read it in your native language:) I read mine in Polish ;)
@salsamancer
@salsamancer 2 года назад
Does your edition of the books still come with the glossary at the end? I remember reading through it and it spells out pretty much everything regarding CHOAM, Laandsrad, the guild etc
@seanms35
@seanms35 2 года назад
A very nice and simple explanation. Thank you!
@dream_plaza
@dream_plaza 2 года назад
Thank you for this video. Dune has been on my list to read for a few years but I haven’t gotten around to it yet. Saw the movie recently and this video has really helped.
@pauldwyer7359
@pauldwyer7359 2 года назад
I just sw Dune last night with my 23 year old son. I have read Dune twice, the last time being over 30 years ago. You explained the politics of Frank Herbert's Universe almost perfectly. Thank you...
@davidwalker5990
@davidwalker5990 2 года назад
I wish Charles Dance had been required to wear that helmet in GoT
@graceskerp
@graceskerp 2 года назад
I wish he'd been cast as the emperor. He was born to play the hyper realistic power player.
@graceskerp
@graceskerp 2 года назад
@d R One can but hope.
@dawn-blade
@dawn-blade 2 года назад
@@graceskerp Can you please compare Dune to Game of Thrones for me? With analogies of who is the "real power in King's Landing," which Houses are the underdogs/most unpredictable, who is most ambitious etc.? I know nothing about the Dune universe. How do you recommend getting into this series? What are the books/shows/movies to watch?
@graceskerp
@graceskerp 2 года назад
@@dawn-blade Sorry for the delay. I didn't read Song of Ice and Fire nor follow GoT that closely, so any contrast/compare will be superficial. Firstly, unlike Westeros the noble houses in the Dune universe don't play a large role in the story. They certainly do fight among themselves, but they wisely make no play for imperial power. The Emperor's Sardaukars make sure they behave themselves. The most ambitious and dangerous is House Harkonnen. Another compare: Dune is filled with characters who have their own agendas and goals. Finally Dune has an important fringe group which everyone ignores or dismisses until they show up at the front door. They're led by a charismatic individual who succeed in kicking in the door, but with dire results for both himself and the empire. Getting into the series: OK, start with the book. It's a dense read, certainly not a weekend or beach book, but it is worth the effort. Films: Lynch's fundamental problem is the story can not be told in one feature film, just too much background and characters. If you can find it, there's the SyFy's version. It has its problems, doubtful casting choices and the budget definitely shows in the special effects and sets. However, it's far more faithful to the narrative than Lynch's. Finally, check Quinn's Ideas and Nerd Cookies TY videos. They both do excellent analyses of all things Dune.
@harrisonmudge
@harrisonmudge 2 года назад
Finally got round to watch this film and was blown away but I had a lot of questions! This has been super helpful, thanks!
@fireandblood2919
@fireandblood2919 2 года назад
1:20 The emperor should be played by Charles Dance!!!
@lpotts75
@lpotts75 6 месяцев назад
Yeah his voice and narrative is very distinct.
@FreddyMontana69
@FreddyMontana69 2 года назад
Seeing Quinn finally being able to use screenshots of the 2021 movie makes me happy.
@level11biggerbadderbosses31
@level11biggerbadderbosses31 2 года назад
Never read or really even heard of Dune till Denis Vileneuve and I cant thank you enough for the very diguestable and cool videos on the universe man. I know we are all eagerly awaiting PART 2!!!!
@natloziarap
@natloziarap 2 года назад
You sh rd the books. mn
@mrheru8627
@mrheru8627 2 года назад
GREAT, now i already watched the movie... your video become solid foundation for basic DUNE knowledge, time to read novel 😆
@bozitrapboy
@bozitrapboy 2 года назад
thanks for this, made me understand dune better
@FranciscoMoreno-xo6ed
@FranciscoMoreno-xo6ed 2 года назад
This was a perfect video. It's going to be the perfect intro to the numerous people that are just now watching the Dune 2021 movie that've I've dragged to see that love the new movie. Thank you for this. Been subb'd for ages, but hot damn, you still manage to knock it out of the park to this DAY. Love you bro.
@ChescoYT
@ChescoYT Год назад
Hey man, beautiful channel! 🚀
@mugbarron2172
@mugbarron2172 10 месяцев назад
Thanks so much for this man! I’m a beginner to the series, and like you said I kept saying to myself “what the heck is going on??!?” 🤣 But I really dug it and was surprised how emotionally captivated I was watching it. Anyway thank you for explaining this, because it makes so much more sense now. I’m looking fwd to my 2nd viewing. Thanks again 🙏👍
@wrmorris2
@wrmorris2 2 года назад
after watching dune yesterday, I'm now going to bed listion to audio books. you had me pumped for this for awile. cant wait to see were the books go
@toddkonrad2407
@toddkonrad2407 2 года назад
Ok, I NEED Charles Dance as Shaddam IV now in Part Two.
@technopirate304
@technopirate304 2 года назад
Oh heck yeah
@technopirate304
@technopirate304 2 года назад
@d R What about his son Jared Harris
@edvardkvist3656
@edvardkvist3656 2 года назад
@@technopirate304 Jared Harris is in apple tv+ Foundation so I´d highly doubt it, but he does look like what I imagine Shaddam IV as.
@technopirate304
@technopirate304 2 года назад
@@edvardkvist3656 Yeah I watch that show as well. We can only dream. Jared's absence is seriously apparent on The Expanse
@edvardkvist3656
@edvardkvist3656 2 года назад
@@technopirate304 I guess we'll see, though I find that Jared's overall character lacks a bit off authority for him to play the emperor. Do you understand what i mean by that?
@lizardog
@lizardog 2 года назад
Thank you for the thought-provoking, informative content!
@cedarspeice8940
@cedarspeice8940 2 года назад
Just wrapped up Book 1/Part 1 of Dune and this helped me so much!! I did look at the glossary occasionally while reading but this put all the moving parts together well.
@FlowerFestival
@FlowerFestival 2 года назад
You never disappoint! Quinn! Thank you for these informative, entertaining and meticulously-crafted videos on Dune.
@peppermintspacecapsule9898
@peppermintspacecapsule9898 2 года назад
I love your channel... but I'm going to avoid watching your videos until I've seen the new film! 😆 Really looking forward to your upcoming CHAPTERHOUSE DUNE video! 👍
@Travlinmo
@Travlinmo 2 года назад
But SEE it soon! It’s excellent!
@epiccollision
@epiccollision 2 года назад
The movie is a great ad to read the books…looked stunning, not a lot of substance…they glossed over spice!
@ScifiempireNet
@ScifiempireNet 2 года назад
If you are avoiding Quinn's video but you are anticipating the CHAPTERHOUSE DUNE video then you are a little late - you are officially a Dune aficionado!
@DR-bp1yu
@DR-bp1yu 2 года назад
This is great. Perhaps a more detailed account of each group would be possible? I'd love a video on Caladan, or The story of house Atreides and its beginning with Vorian Atreides or Harkonen's or the Bene Gesserit and the how they morphed from the Sorceresses of Rossak. Or just house Corrino and their long line, their origins from before the Butlerian jihad. I'd watch any of those and more
@Gadget-Walkmen
@Gadget-Walkmen 2 года назад
lol this WHOLE channel is about Dune entirely, I'm sure he made a video on everything you said here.
@ISCREAMSODAsmr
@ISCREAMSODAsmr 2 года назад
I love that one of the members of Daft Punk was an extra in this very scene! Peace and amor bro
@Uneek1980
@Uneek1980 2 года назад
Much respect to you. This was very helpful to me because when I watch Dune my mind went blank.
@jaellenwarren1895
@jaellenwarren1895 2 года назад
I just left the theater and I’m still going OMG and wow! This movie made me so happy! Some truly Shakespearean scenes. I’m heading back tomorrow to watch it again!
@bryanJr8
@bryanJr8 2 года назад
I'm new and this is all F-ing SICK!!!! love it.
@SNUBAUSA
@SNUBAUSA 2 года назад
Nice job dude
@nniitchh
@nniitchh 2 года назад
This is a perfect summary for beginners.
@benandrovich112
@benandrovich112 2 года назад
As always, your videos are amazing! I’ve watched your and LMLs videos for years on ASOIAF. I know you’ve always loved Dune so when the movie came out, I was so excited because I know you will fill in the gaps for me! Plus I’m starting the books soon! Can’t wait. Thanks Quinn.
@azilbean
@azilbean 5 месяцев назад
Someone who has never tead Dune, this helps so much! It also makes me want to read it to learn more!❤
@thesnowbold1632
@thesnowbold1632 2 года назад
That was a solid explanation. You should do a vid of the specific political and strategic moves that occurred in the movie because I have seen plenty of people get confused with why the Sardaukar were on Arrakis and they don’t seem to understand the reasoning of the emperor.
@Leitis_Fella
@Leitis_Fella 2 года назад
They're going to cast Doug Jones as Edric in Dune: Messiah. Mark my words
@richardhart9204
@richardhart9204 2 года назад
Wow ... that would be perfection.
@MagicRobot95
@MagicRobot95 2 года назад
Or Andy Serkis
@richardhart9204
@richardhart9204 2 года назад
@@MagicRobot95 ... was thinking of him as I left my reply because honestly, I think he's more likely to get the job.
@stevenflores5988
@stevenflores5988 2 года назад
THAT would be amazing!!
@SlickAstley_TV
@SlickAstley_TV 2 года назад
If I recall correctly David Dastmalchian said that he got a preview of what the navigators will look like and they are totally inhuman in appearance. They are going to be extremely elongated, which, to be fair, fits Doug Jones to a tee
@toastanator
@toastanator 2 года назад
Great video again. I really recommend this to anyone who doesn't know much about dune, to watch this before seeing the movie. It really helps give some backstory and lore to the setting going in.
@gregorycotter6461
@gregorycotter6461 6 месяцев назад
If I was the overlord of a powerful family empire in the Duniverse, my royal family flag would be a smiling stick figure man.
@Christopher-oh2di
@Christopher-oh2di Год назад
I love the video you did yesterday. I hope theirs more to come.
@yonasa.8543
@yonasa.8543 2 года назад
Thank you for explaining this. Great video especially for someone who just saw the movie and didn’t read the book and would need some filling in of the details. Keep it up!
@noahtt3366
@noahtt3366 2 года назад
Really great content it helped me a lot in understanding the context of the movie. Idk if this is possible but if you can when you are talking about the various connections between factions having an illustrative chart would help show the various political connections. For example when you were discussing the connections between various houses in the imperium and their level of influnece in the choam company etc. If this is possible that would be great if not oh well you're still producing great content thanks.
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