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The POOREST Girl Group - The Margarines (Ft. former member Marie) 

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Today we will be talking about The Margarines, a Jpop group with a weird concept - being in debt.
Thanks to former Margarines member, Marie! Check out her social media here:
- / daiteddychan
- / @marie_jjang
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@ploopy678
@ploopy678 Год назад
Get Cyberghost here: www.cyberghostvpn.com/Ploopy678 What did you think of the Margarines? Would you have been a fan? I think i would LOL cuz I love weird things 😅 Also, be sure to check out my full interview with Marie on my Patreon! She revealed tons of juicy details about how she got in the group etc. (Too much info to include in my video haha) www.patreon.com/members?membershipType=active_patron Check Marie's social media here: - instagram.com/daiteddychan/ - ru-vid.com/show-UC_aP60vIDBfCoSk3fFmzZ6g
@editsbygabby
@editsbygabby Год назад
First! I would!
@AngelicMilkyYT
@AngelicMilkyYT Год назад
I would too!
@Awakening_Sunshine
@Awakening_Sunshine Год назад
The channel link doesn’t work here
@ploopy678
@ploopy678 Год назад
@@Awakening_Sunshine I've fixed it, sorry about that!
@rainbowow5060
@rainbowow5060 Год назад
I would be a fan!
@demodemou
@demodemou Год назад
the girl getting kicked to the ground for “laughs” is so degrading and infuriating..
@aal1yah17
@aal1yah17 Год назад
Glad that Marie is out of debt and hope her and girls are living more easier lives now. I couldn't even bear to imagine how stressful it must've been for them.
@bollaraggio
@bollaraggio Год назад
I felt my heart drop when I heard that the members were forced to strip and be physically abused on camera. They really took advantage of these women's vulnerable position... I'm glad that all of them seem to be doing better now, but it's so unfair that the company never faced legal consequences for mistreating their artists. Thank you for such an interesting video!
@terciopelo
@terciopelo Год назад
I'm glad she's exposing their mistreatment. Sadly many idols not just in japan have to go through similar things and a lot of idols are also in debt simply by going through the training process.
@elangbam3115
@elangbam3115 Год назад
Not in k-pop
@nightowl5211
@nightowl5211 Год назад
@@elangbam3115 it's on kpop too
@elangbam3115
@elangbam3115 Год назад
@@nightowl5211 you are dead wrong
@nightowl5211
@nightowl5211 Год назад
@@elangbam3115 You must be new K-pop fan. I was KPop fan for 11 years and already read a lot of news about trainee debt and sexual exploitation of KPop star. If you are interested about it,maybe you can start by reading news about boyband Omega X. Their management treat them so badly.
@nightowl5211
@nightowl5211 Год назад
@@elangbam3115 There is also novel from Jessica, former member of SNSD called Shine. In this novel she also give a glimpse of brutality trainee life.
@lian_9745
@lian_9745 Год назад
How was there no legal action taken against this Saito producer?!?!! He literally ASSAULTED and EXPLOITED the girls!!!
@Mr-pn2eh
@Mr-pn2eh Год назад
Because Japan is resistant to change when it comes to back end systems
@sofiaw4654
@sofiaw4654 10 месяцев назад
Japan entertainment industry is no less shady than Korean ones lmao kpop companies getting talked about more bc k-idols are more worldwide famous
@handling_this_handle.-.
@handling_this_handle.-. 9 месяцев назад
He abused the host too, that man is a danger for society nothing more nothing less...
@TuberoseKisser
@TuberoseKisser Год назад
People: *in severe debt* Idol industry: It's free workforce.
@patrickonaleash1979
@patrickonaleash1979 Год назад
imagine debuting in a group only to be given a position where you get slapped and hit
@brandonx543
@brandonx543 Год назад
now that you put it like that, that’s insane
@voidmynk159
@voidmynk159 Год назад
Positions: Vocalist! Rapper! Main dancer! Abuse victim!- wait what-
@princkleminckle1159
@princkleminckle1159 Год назад
Their Wikipedia page is so lacking it only said "The Margarines were a Japanese idol girl group" 💀
@myragingwhormoans
@myragingwhormoans Год назад
wikipedia is such a bad source for asian idol groups 💀💀. idk why it lacks so much in that aspect
@Louise-ls4jv
@Louise-ls4jv Год назад
@@myragingwhormoans It has more in the original languages usually (like for jpop in Japanese)
@piratedokkyun4821
@piratedokkyun4821 Год назад
Well at least not for J-pop wiki :v.
@ForeverForty
@ForeverForty 4 месяца назад
They added context now after Marie's interview hahaha
@GuranPurin
@GuranPurin Год назад
It doesn't seem to be uncommon that poor J-POP and K-POP groups are essentially threatened by debts to remain in the groups and end up being forced to do things they don't want to. But at least they generally get paid and don't have to resort to side-jobs, usually. This seems like a horrible experience. That said, it's good Marie doesn't regret her time there and it was a unique experience. I feel bad for the girl who was pretty much used for slapstick, though, so I hope she'd doing better.
@kyokugo6460
@kyokugo6460 Год назад
Fun fact: Yua Mikami, members of the KPOP group Honey Popcorn was also in the group some of The Margarine members moved too, Ebisu Muscats. Which was a very popular Adult Idol Group in Japan.
@khusnulriadhi6374
@khusnulriadhi6374 Год назад
Or more like she also former member of one of from 48Group (HKT maybe) as Momota Kito (real name).
@rhayssamartins4414
@rhayssamartins4414 Год назад
What? I didn't know that, i thought she was just an jpop idol that debuted on *orn industry.
@kyokugo6460
@kyokugo6460 Год назад
@@khusnulriadhi6374 More Exactly, SKE48, But her artistic name is now Yua Mikami, Let's respect that🤗 BTW I mention EBISU MUSCATS since is related to the video while AKB48GROUP has no relation to the video🤗
@kyokugo6460
@kyokugo6460 Год назад
@@rhayssamartins4414 Yua Mikami has been in 3 groups at this point, SKE48, Ebisu Muscats and Honey Popcorn🤓 BTW even while in SKE48 she preffered to do more sexy concepts so I guess she woulda either ended doing Gravure or AV regardless, Since she apparently likes that line of work
@rhayssamartins4414
@rhayssamartins4414 Год назад
@@kyokugo6460 that's really cool to know, I saw a interview of her some years ago and she really seems to like this kind of thing. The first time i heard about Yua was bc of honey popcorn, actually. It's not my favorite group concept but the songs were pretty good. Too bad the group disbanded.
@zuhasyunjin
@zuhasyunjin Год назад
what a horrible environment, so glad marie seems to be doing well now i hope the other members are as well!
@snowmoon192
@snowmoon192 Год назад
whenever she says "surely _______, right?" we know that the exact opposite has happened
@sophialiu4043
@sophialiu4043 5 месяцев назад
So true!
@joshhale9355
@joshhale9355 Год назад
Hearing about what Saito was doing to them and how he exploited them for fun was really REALLY gross. Just straight up physically abusing them (I’m sure emotional, mental, and financial abuse happened) for funsies is just hard to see. The fact they knew they’d have to take their clothes off when he showed up is enough to make your stomach turn.
@katie5920
@katie5920 Год назад
I hope all the members are in a much better place, especially the one constantly being hit. It's so disgusting that they would treat them like that, I wish those in charge faced consequences for mistreatment.
@sakuraa1770
@sakuraa1770 Год назад
My gosh, these women got abused on camera and the company did jack all to even help them even get a few dollars.
@scottietrademark
@scottietrademark Год назад
This group makes me think of this new Korean survival show called Button Game. A former MIXX member is joining with $50k USD in debt with hospital bills. 9 people are going to compete with their survival skills to win money to pay off their debt. It's crazy that these companies can make "entertainment" out of people's struggles and misery.
@ploopy678
@ploopy678 Год назад
Wow, that is crazy! Definitely going to read up more on this show!
@puffhopem591
@puffhopem591 Год назад
@@ploopy678 can u make an episode on it
@elangbam3115
@elangbam3115 Год назад
Is the show release?
@princesskatie4467
@princesskatie4467 Год назад
I thought you said NMIXX and I was going to be so sad ☹️
@anti_fragile
@anti_fragile Год назад
I guess the producers didn't understand that Squid Game was meant to criticize the state of Korean society and the financial state of Korean citizens and not something to imitate
@miss_jess
@miss_jess Год назад
that group manager sounds like a mega creep
@aprilioa3849
@aprilioa3849 Год назад
i hope that girl whose responsibility was to be abused is living happily now, i feel really bad for her :(
@findingwhimsy
@findingwhimsy Год назад
I heard about this group years ago but it's so disappointing to hear how they were treated. Also, why would director Saito create this group if he was just going to sabotage them with his shit leadership? The promotion decisions made were so bad.
@skaisnotdead
@skaisnotdead Год назад
I think it could have been successful, plenty of social media influencers make it big with less direction. BUT as per usual a bunch of greedy men in the music industry exploited them and ruined everything.
@cuteacule
@cuteacule Год назад
“Finical Troubles“ the perfect opening
@Gowonisfeliznavidad
@Gowonisfeliznavidad Год назад
😏
@jordan-dv8wu
@jordan-dv8wu Год назад
when i heard that they were women in debt i knew this was gonna be about them holding this over their head, i really hoped that i was wrong and they could've paid their debt with a fun experiment but it's so disappointing how predictable men in power are
@arminkblink
@arminkblink Год назад
I really think the girls could've become successful in paying off their debts and maybe even earn extra money for a living by the management making right promoting decisions. But quiet the opposite, the management crew destroyed the group's chances to become successful. I feel like the girls themselves, without the crew and the company could've become successful itself. And being sexualy harrased and being hit and kicked and abused on camera is so disgusting. It's sad to see that the margarines did not see the bright future they were expecting.
@jmac356
@jmac356 Год назад
It was a scam. This concept could have been done by 9 girls forming amongst themselves, but it wasn't.
@kyla8386
@kyla8386 Год назад
Pretty sure forcing someone to strip on livestream for free for their “job” is a form of sexual slavery. I’m sure the company was making money off it
@neversenever591
@neversenever591 Год назад
I love how you explore such niche and underground topics. It always surprises me how interesting you can make these videos and how much information you can find
@Mechakoshi
@Mechakoshi Год назад
I really hope all the women who auditioned for the margarines are fine now
@lumi_project
@lumi_project Год назад
another example that Japan is not all shine and rainbow
@winterrrrrrr
@winterrrrrrr Год назад
4:55 are we not gonna talk about the girl in a bondage rope 😭😭😭😭😭😭
@Bom.3d
@Bom.3d Месяц назад
IM SAYINGG LIKE LMAO
@shellyb3127
@shellyb3127 Год назад
Awesome video! Also Marie seems like a great person, glad she is out of that mess now
@richardc5100
@richardc5100 Год назад
Another ploopy video? Today is going to be a great day.
@ploopy678
@ploopy678 Год назад
Hope you enjoyed it!😊
@richardc5100
@richardc5100 Год назад
Loved it
@hypeb0yyonyt
@hypeb0yyonyt Год назад
Everything started wrong when they named themselves as the margarines like lmao
@Sanas_Shy_Language
@Sanas_Shy_Language Год назад
The outfit you wore for the sponsor was absolutely stunning on you!
@cuckoophendula8211
@cuckoophendula8211 Год назад
Oh my gosh, this reminds me of this one infamous Simpsons episode when Homer was so desperate for cash that he became his boss's "prank monkey" essentially selling his dignity doing whatever his boss wanted.
@davespriter
@davespriter 10 месяцев назад
i think the margarines couldve had a chance for some small success if the girls were allowed to market themselves.
@daniswara1164
@daniswara1164 Год назад
Here in Indonesia people who don't have money butter up their bread with margarine since only the rich people use real butter. Now their name makes sense right??
@hslpt3
@hslpt3 Год назад
honestly i would go for margarine over butter anyday simply because i just don't like butter/most dairy stuffs. in fact, if i see anything promoted with 'premium butter' as tagline(which people in my country love promoting everything with premium/imported/expensive/viral tags) it's immediately a no for me.
@blueprintsymphonic
@blueprintsymphonic Год назад
You make really interesting videos
@user-vp7dk3vj3e
@user-vp7dk3vj3e Год назад
I absolutely LOVE your videos please keep them coming 💕😍
@kpopluver0494
@kpopluver0494 Год назад
Great video! You always find the best topics!
@remuspierre7573
@remuspierre7573 Год назад
Music before I'm gonna check them out
@smittythagreat93
@smittythagreat93 Год назад
I dig your channel. The visuals are nice too.
@joelreyes4237
@joelreyes4237 Год назад
This is crazy with this group. They would have more debt if they stay the group but I hope that they pay off their debts. I love your videos Evangeline and you always beautiful
@itsxrn
@itsxrn Год назад
The queen has posted!💅🏻
@Mitsu92
@Mitsu92 Год назад
Another fantastic video! So cool to hear from Marie herself and her personal experience. But please please PLEASE fix your screechy/peaking audio! Your stories are both intriguing and educational so I wanna hear but the high peaking mic makes it so difficult to listen in the long run and sometimes even gives me a headache. I could only keep the headset on one ear cause the other screeched so bad at times. It could cause real problems for those hard of hearing or that have sensory issues as well. Otherwise, keep up the good work!
@ploopy678
@ploopy678 Год назад
I am working on it! I previously bought a mic but sadly it wasn't compatible with my phone (which I film with) 😥 so I'm currently saving up for a webcam!
@Mitsu92
@Mitsu92 Год назад
@@ploopy678 Oof, that's a bummer. I know the feeling, I went through something similar with my camera.. 😣 I hope you can find a good webcam/mic that works for you! Luckily Christmas season is around the corner so there's always the possibility to get lucky and find something for cheap~ 👀 (No pressure btw, just a tip!) Thank you for taking time to respond to my comment. Keep up the good work! 😁👍
@siamesecatlover3679
@siamesecatlover3679 Год назад
You should make a podcast. Your videos are really interesting and I think a lot of people would like to be able to listen while doing other things
@blessmeachoomarkmadcity6773
i was just scrolling through your channel then i saw you upload something! Great video!
@asyla5690
@asyla5690 Год назад
It makes me so angry and furious that people hit these girls just for “entertainment”, it’s so fucking disgusting. so glad they’re okay.
@ana2012321
@ana2012321 Год назад
Finally I’m early here!!! I love your videos!!! Keep going!!! Ploopy, fighting!!! Fan here and Love from Brazil!!! 😱😍✨😘👊👏❤️💜🇧🇷
@lordebola9472
@lordebola9472 Год назад
Wow that's insane! It's not even so long ago, these companies are so fucking scummy! The part with the tv show where they were slapping this girl really disgusted me, how could that even be accepted, it blows my mind.
@AquaRunner533
@AquaRunner533 Год назад
This made me realized I don't want go to college anymore
@z_z7976
@z_z7976 Год назад
You could do community college or trade school. It might be more affordable and worth looking into.
@aridian7787
@aridian7787 Год назад
Excellent presentation Ploopy!👍🙌👏👏🇺🇸
@Sunnydoll414
@Sunnydoll414 Год назад
Random comment nothing to do with the actual video but I’m just so excited for when you hopefully make the third part of your end of year kpop debuts they are some of my favorite videos of yours love your videos ❤️
@PedroPony833
@PedroPony833 Год назад
Your production quality is insanely impressive in your videos. Not only are they very informative but the editing is on point. Keep up the great work!!
@elmin82
@elmin82 Год назад
omg really feel sorry for these girls
@crystalleyvonne818
@crystalleyvonne818 Год назад
Now why would they name them after I cant believe it's not butter
@80lala08
@80lala08 Год назад
this honestly disgusting, imagine being lured into a management company that strips you forcefully and doesn't even pay you their situation seemed worse than prostitutes :(
@ATWTMVTVFTVSGAVRALPS
@ATWTMVTVFTVSGAVRALPS Год назад
Those green outfits are reminiscent to those from Squid game 😟
@바보Queen
@바보Queen Год назад
even with kpop today.. i still dont know why they stream on vlive so much and never have a donation button.... people would be willing to donate a ton of money to idols... much better than donating to these freaking gamers who are making millions... its baffling
@Sheepy16able
@Sheepy16able Год назад
They had a German member?? Cool :) I`m German too :)
@Jieuns_Flori
@Jieuns_Flori Год назад
The idea is really fun and cool but the idols needed to be in charge
@Forever.always.3
@Forever.always.3 Год назад
When she was sponsoring the VPN I heard Hong Kong and I was like “why are they saying my country?” And I realized my favorite RU-vidr lives in my country
@Yvesxrh
@Yvesxrh Год назад
Besties, ploopy posted❤
@HH-rv7yw
@HH-rv7yw Год назад
That's hilarious but I feel really bad for the girls who had large debts.
@dnaflowz
@dnaflowz Год назад
I don’t think many Japanese girl groups do the agencies care if they can sing or dance. I don’t even think for AKB48 when reading about them they cared about vocals or dance.
@a.evelyn5498
@a.evelyn5498 Год назад
I can’t believe some Kpop idols currently do not make any money… it’s understandable when it’s a small company & the group absolutely ranks (although it is EQUALLY DEVASTATING for the individuals who have given up so much of their lives, most often leaving school to attend training & follow their dreams only to be met with failure & even debt). When from larger companies, it’s a bigger shock, like BlockBerry Creative, which IS WHAT IT IS due to Loona yet the girls have received nothing. I can’t believe it…… & yet I can… the Loona members have not seen a single can’t since debut in October 2016 (!!!) & Chuu hasn’t received anything from all of her solo work. I don’t follow Loona closely, though I have a few songs I like very much. I understand that the company utilized a tremendous amount of money on the group / girls, but to see NOTHING whatsoever? That’s entirely unethical & I don’t care about whatever one says to the opposite. This. Is. NOT. Right! BBE is evidently handling their finances incorrectly & I bet there are some VERY greedy board members at the company. It’s heartbreaking for them. No wonder Chuu left.
@carrieheartsmusic6797
@carrieheartsmusic6797 Год назад
This is so funny but sad at the same time ....
@freakyold
@freakyold Год назад
It would have been more entertaining if the girls, while wearing bikinis, turned on Saito and beat him up live and humiliated him in other ways.
@joseph3720j
@joseph3720j 10 месяцев назад
gosh it's so disturbing that they were being forced to do something inappropriate only for paying the debt. i mean a lot of jpop idol doing gravure but I'm fine with that since they're not being forced. but forcing someone to do gravure while they don't want to is just.. disturbing and inhumane
@mikimatsubara2057
@mikimatsubara2057 Год назад
Very interesting documentary but it's funny and sad at the same time. 😆
@sjjaewon
@sjjaewon Год назад
How the hell...was a comedian and a director able to form a Jpop group?
@user-hd2tx6fx3e
@user-hd2tx6fx3e Год назад
When I heard their name "the margrines" I immediately thought of the spread
@IVEloonaFromis
@IVEloonaFromis 11 месяцев назад
Loona be like
@swk48shanehosty14
@swk48shanehosty14 Год назад
I feel bad for all the idol that being treated like this
@maaduufan5140
@maaduufan5140 Год назад
When i 1st heard of this group, I saw video of them handling flyers on the street. I thought 'cool, like how Morning Musume was formed' but later on things went downhill. you have to be extra special to sell that many copies being an underground idol. I hated how some members were kicked around for comedic value. It happened to major jpop idol too (eg Momochi). I hate how backward the comedy scene in Japan.
@MarkOfKeys
@MarkOfKeys Год назад
So the girls busking to promote themselves was beneath the company, but being forced to strip on camera wasn't?
@um-bi5pp
@um-bi5pp 2 месяца назад
Busking is seen as underground idol activities but gravure modelling is done idols of all popularities
@benbridges5720
@benbridges5720 Год назад
It started so promising. It sounded like a story about caring for the poor, afterwards it crushes your soul and makes you lose faith in humanity again. The company leader should be sued and charged with assault. Also, yes I think it could have been successful.
@edotori091
@edotori091 Год назад
This reminds me of some of the things I saw on AKBingo. Not as bad as the stripping part but the girls' bodies were always being evaluated in weird ways (best legs, chest, etc.)
@remuspierre7573
@remuspierre7573 Год назад
Amazing topics
@jinghuin7515
@jinghuin7515 Год назад
“Nonono, that’s not how we do things around here, we gotta do things The Old Way™️.” Sounds like Japan, alright.
@forthewin4063
@forthewin4063 Год назад
What sort of concept is that!! 😱
@phrhann
@phrhann Год назад
Love your videos!!
@user-pb3xf8qh1f
@user-pb3xf8qh1f Год назад
i really like your account~ thank you for this new video ~~💖
@elaineoh3984
@elaineoh3984 Год назад
I see where Liar Game and Kaiji get their inspiration from 😅
@aradiyanah5119
@aradiyanah5119 Год назад
Can you make one video about boys24? I was a fan but even me cannot fully understand their system of the survival show. This is also unlucky survival show, I think none of contestants can be considered successful or popular
@PinkSoldier2009
@PinkSoldier2009 Год назад
13:44 OMG!!! That’s horrible! 😮😩
@remuspierre7573
@remuspierre7573 Год назад
They have amazing songs I can dance too
@jx1913
@jx1913 Год назад
I love your videos
@priestrat
@priestrat Год назад
I wish I wouldve known about them! I wouldve supported them for suuuure. I think their songs sound pretty good tbh o: at least from the few clips shown in this video Edit: oh goooood the rest of the video is so shocking, I take it back i would not have supported that :( the poor girls
@monsta6501
@monsta6501 Год назад
Found a quote recently that perfectly describes this channel, "Go idolize your idle life then criticize me." Figure it out "KPOP FAN".
@Rouge_Ice
@Rouge_Ice Год назад
Ohhhhh a new video! I'm gonna comment first before watching 😁
@jordanlaing7
@jordanlaing7 Год назад
ploopy is so cute in her glasses
@serenatsukino5252
@serenatsukino5252 Год назад
The producers disgust me. How can you get mad at someone for not wanting to be hit? And I don't like that he made them strip. It would be one thing, if they actually wanted to do it, but if someone is uncomfortable with it, don't force them. And keep in mind, this is Japan. The women there are dressed more conservatively. So there's a good chance these women were uncomfortable in their bikinis.
@nerd23x
@nerd23x Год назад
It's giving DR Music with "Blackswan" HAHAHA
@wasabimiyuki7641
@wasabimiyuki7641 Год назад
Just when you think thing couldn’t get any weirder in Japan…
@dmitrykim3096
@dmitrykim3096 Год назад
Better chances than squid game has
@BillyWhaler
@BillyWhaler Год назад
I was a little disappointed with my Margarines lightstick built from cardboard, duct tape and a votive candle. This concept could work in the states with an Andy Kaufman deadpan approach - no skills, no knowledge of lack of skills, and all business about the craft.
@NicolasPetrosLanning
@NicolasPetrosLanning 2 месяца назад
I just saw your playlists and why is Chad Future in a playlist called Oli London
@UKIISSFan
@UKIISSFan Год назад
This also happens with Thai BL actors, some of them decide to play the roles because they have debts or are poor so they see it as an opportunity even though some of them aren't even gay
@AlexaAriGo
@AlexaAriGo Год назад
I love your vids but I hate that I cannot watch them with headphones because there is some kind of distortion on the right every few words you say. Would be great if you could check you mic for damage and maybe get a new one :')
@remuspierre7573
@remuspierre7573 Год назад
I never listen to the margarines
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