THE PRIMARCHS WHO REFUSED THE GODS OF CHAOS! 

For Khorne Sanguinius was the trophy and Angron the wooden spoon.

Perturabo's response to Nurgle is why I still don't believe he turned daemon at all.

Guilliman should be on this list. Fulgrim and Mortarion both tried to tempt him to serve their respective Gods.

Rogal Dorn beat Chaos by being as boring and blunt as possible.

Curze is interesting because he said no to the Emp and no to the gods

You better be referencing that awesome Perturabo moment you showed us years ago

I won’t lie it still surprises me that Tzeench didn’t go for me, Alpharius (I am Alpharius) considering the Alpha Legion is all about lies, trickery and schemes, aka tzeench’s mantra

Well, yeah. Angron was never meant to be the way he was. The Butcher's Nails arguably twisted him into the antithesis of what he was meant to be.

When I began this video, I was wondering if you were gonna mention Perturabo. I'm glad you did! He is my favorite of the Primarchs, and his refusal of Nurgle is one of my favorite parts of his lore. Punching out a gunship? With just his fist? Come on! Even the haters have to admit that's just awesome!

If we're talking about notable Lion El'Jonson one-liners, there's one from Ruinstorm that sums up his attitude during and before the Heresy very well. Lion, Roboute, and Sanguinius' fleet are carving a path through the Ruinstorm when they find an Imperial planet that's been under siege for years by chaos daemons. Lion is the only one to make contact with a high ranking member of the PDF, and from her he learns that not only have the planet's populace started worshipping the Emperor, but they have also been completely overrun by Tzeentch daemons. The conversation ends with her subtly asking him to do whatever it takes to stop the rest of them from being "changed" like the others. It's one of the few times that we see the Lion take a very somber and compassionate attitude, but once the call is ended, he returns to his brothers and immediately tells them they need to blow up the entire planet. Roboute and Sanguinius put up a fuss over killing so many Imperial citizens, but Lion not only reiterates that it's their wish to die before the daemons can get to them, but also that denying chaos another world could weaken the ruinstorm and offer them a path through. He asks them if they can think of any other way, and neither of the primarchs speak up. Finally, the Lion states: "Your silence is consent." And he immediately destroys the world in front of them. I believe it sums up his attitude as a cold asshole when it comes to doing his job, but it also shows the genuine motivations and beliefs behind that attitude so you can see that whilst he's very abrasive, he's right.

If I am not mistaken, Nurgle tried to tempt Perturabo. Ultimatly failed, but it did spell out the fate of traitors. Night Haunter was just too far gone in his madness to be approached by one of the Chaos Powers. One of Lorgar's followers tried to turn Guilliman & failed.

It would be so damn cool to be a primarch, and tell an emissary of the chaos gods to go kick rocks.

Nurgle predicted Perturabo's defeat and the joke is he might well have been defeated if Nurgle had said nothing. But he essentially went to Perturabo. Perturabo of all beings and said the equivalent, "There's no way you can do this without my help". I mean. Dude beat angron just to prove a point.

As a sacrifice to the almighty algorithm i just want to let you know @Wolf Lord Rho, that you convinced me to buy scars and path to heaven again as physical copies (couldnt find warhawk) just to see the khan hand out some burns another time. Keep up the good work, i really enjoy your vids. For the Khan!

Rho, it wasn't a librarian. It was a Nemiel, the Chaplain. He tried to command The Lion and the Lion punched his head clean off for the insubordination in front of everyone on the bridge. Sorry, but you got that wrong Hoss.

Sanguinius is, of course, a first round pick.

Thank you man I've been looking for a comprehensive guide for the primarks that were tempted by the chaos gods

14:15 Nemiel was a chaplain, not a librarian.

Perturabo has become one of my favourite Primachs such a bagasse without even trying ,the Lion incorruptible and loyal to his father man this was an awesome video

I love how there are so many implications that loyalist primarches were the 4 gods' first picks, and that the traitor primarches barring Horus (and maybe Magnus) were second or even last picks.

Lovely subject for the video and a great listen. Well done❤

14:00 small nitpick, but was it not a redemptor, Nemiel , who was killed by the Lion, and not one the Librarius?

Great video. Your last few weeks of uploads have been really good mate!

All chaos gods looking at Konrad- "hmm maybe not that one"

Perty becoming a demon primarch was so fucking stupid. It would've been great if he was the one to join Horus but also steadfastly tell the Chaos gods to fuck off for ten thousand years.

nurgle fits with the iron warriorsgiven their stoic mindset, and i think tzeentch fits the dark angels too with their penchant for secrets. everyone wanted sanguinius though and it makes me laugh to know that he was khornes first choice, making angron the rebound who was just there to pick up the pieces hahaha.

Has any primarch lost more than Angron? Going full demon really only gave him some exploitable weaknesses and the ability to respawn later (only to be whooped again).

It's funny realy when you think about for all their power, forsight, scheming most of them had to sttel for their second choice.

I’m not a fan of retcons but I’m still mad/confused that they made Perty a demon primarch

All I’m hoping is that we get a seen that ,shows us the lord of Iron as a somewhat corrupted cyborg primarch.

14:06 It was not a Librarian, but a Chaplain, Nemiel.

The Emperor Protects

GW needs to retcon Perty going demon. It doesn’t make sense.

Tzeentch and the dark angels makes sense, but nurgle and P-bo seems like grandpa was just taking a shot.

2:54 ..the CERAMITE sheath of his Gauntlet

perty is the only fallen primarch that I wish stayed loyal.

"I can tell you the emperor's name and it would surprise you" Either its a famous name, a stupid one or a very common one... I choose to believe the second.

Glad this popped up. Just realized I haven’t seen your channel in months and I was unsubscribed for some reason.

Hydra Dominatus

The fact none approached Russ also says a lot about Russ

For an being supposed to be smart trying to corrupt The Lion is quite dumb.

Mortarion says the same thing to Khan about the implied planet swap

"Could you imagine a demon-ascended Sanguinius?" Aesthetically it would be super cool, but he wouldn't necessarily be more powerful. A lot of people mistakenly think that Primarchs turning demon means they are Primarch + Demonic Gifts with no drawbacks, but that simply isn't true. They often have to give up a lot just for a few physical advantages, and at the expensive of being enslaved entirely to powers they can no longer resist once the transformation happens. Dorn still kicked fully ascended demon Fulgrim's ass; Sanguinius still kicked fully ascended demon Angron's ass, Perturabo kicked fully ascended demon Angron's ass and in the 41st Millennium, the Lion did too. Heck, Horus didn't embrace demonhood, but Russ had Horus Ascended 100% irrefutably defeated; it was only his love for his brother that stayed his hand and bought Horus time to get out. Demonhood maybe gives them cool sorcery, extra strength, regeneration, etc., but they have to completely surrender free will, most-if-not-all of their sanity, punishment for not carrying out the orders of Chaos (Mortarion is locked away in the Garden of Nurgle indefinitely, for example), and have to continue serving and fighting even if they don't want to anymore. Always in pain, always tormented, always a self-seeking coward who lost the understanding of things martial, the art of craft and forging, and gave up tactical acumen in favor of a new tentacle or bigger wings for themselves. Chaos, much like evil in the real world, preys on weakness but offers no reward. There is no actual ascendancy for those who accept demonhood. They are just stuck outside of reality, tortured and forever enslaved to do the bidding of fickle Chaos deities who wanted them so they could brag for having stolen an otherwise marvelous creation.

Perturabo is such a pissed off badass

Nemiel was a chaplain. Not a librarian.

I hope in the future that it turns out to be simple rumours that Perty is a daemon primarch and he's still legit

The warp already knew it had Mortarion in the bag so it made no difference if the offer was made to others before him . He was always steeped in pestilence.

We going to over look Rogal Dorn? being asked by Korn?

Kyros, Here Lion I have a deal for you....oh wait never mind.

I kinds get why Nurgle went foe the Iron Hands but that was always a long shot and if this speech convincing Perturabo is from the book he had NO shot

I was surprised not to see Konrad Curze on this list. Granted, we do not have any examples with him, so that's probably why he's not here. ;/

If khorne took Sanguinius and Peturabo to Nurgle, the Hunanity Loses... especially Hawk Boy...

Sanguineous as a demon prince of Khorne would have been the end of the Heresy, right there. Angron is a very poor substitute in comparison.

Great video.

fabius bile vs kanathara, whose hooves shatter mountains, easily the best books in the black library.

The lion for the win !!

if the khan was to go with any god it would be tzeentch. by nature he is meant to be mysterious and unpredictable. that fits tzeentch perfectly.

If Jaghatai was sent to Chemos, he would have been deprived of the plains, the freedom to roam and hunt. I am still to Fulgrims early day on Chemos, but from what i understand he had to help rebuild a lot of the planet, because it was miserable state. Defnitely not something to allow rides the Khan enjoys. It would steer Khan towards personal pleasures,since there couldn't be enjoyment outside.

Pertarabo is the Primach I would love to root for as his skills are better then any others imho. However he is damned by choice and I can't see him ever coming back to the light of the Emperor. :(

Perturabo: Eww god is cringe. Lol said Perturabo LMAO

Incidentally, Tzeetch was actually recruited to become the Chaos god of change and mystery and wacky nonsense by Alpharius

There is only one God, and it's name is Iron.

For the Khan and Emperor !!!!

The new end and rhe death books insinuates that the souls of fallen primarch are still there .... will big E snatch one of those or he dosnt give a shit about them ?

Brother- redemptor Nemiel was a chaplain..who was the librarian that the Lion killed?

The Lion beheaded a Chaplain, not a Librarian.

Tzeentch been linked to Caliban

How did a perty become a demon lord? Vasshtor

Comment for the algorithm 😅

where is dorn?

Or in other words... the Losers who missed out on sweet Immortality and Daemonhood!

they made Settra a primarch?

Nemiel is a chaplain though. was.

Damn kairos is a switch fr fr

A Primarch is NEVER unarmed.

I wonder if the reason for the large number of Alpha Legion daemon princes is they were inspired by Omegon going DP himself.

I think the opposite of this video would be interesting, which primarchs that are missing could give into chaos in the 41st millennium?

Theory: what if the body on the golden throne isn't actually the God Emperor but is instead the body of the lone soldier who confronted Horus aboard the Vengeful Spirit, who is most likely that one Perpetual the Emperor knows from his days uniting Terra?

Error: aKeeper Of Secrets is a Greater Daemon of Tzeentch, not Slaanesh.

Perty as a demon prince is so they can sell another demon primarch model

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