I loved the original take on Damien's origin by his original creator Mike W Barr. Leave it to Grant Morrison to rewrite the origin to make him a result of...unwanted intimate advances. The forced Barbara/Bruce ship completely ruined the DC Animated Universe for me.
I think the death in the family movie did it better which was she was pregnant and told Bruce she lost the child so he could go back to living his life. Or maybe just say he was an artificial birth like in the new 52, honestly DC has been retconing this for years.
No I see your ponit with Thor dating the nineteen year old bring werid,like you said even though shes an adult,some of who just turned into a adult dating someone way older can be unhealthy.
Either you're an adult or you're not. There's no adultager development you go through before you're fully an adult. If you think 19 is to young to be an adult then okay, you have a point, but if you think a 19 is fully an adult then you're a clown.
@@celestialsoldier622the brain fully develops at 25, up until that point I’d go by the half-your-age-plus-seven rule. That generally accounts that maturity difference shouldn’t be particularly significant on basis of age.
Ey really quality Video!! Especially how you said that the green lantern storyline could be a great commentary on these serious topic but fails to do so by being written by potential creeps was really interesting. Keep up the work :)
Even the cleaned-up version for the Lego Batman Movie where Bruce is introduced to Barbara as an adult and immediately developed a huge crush on her felt wrong.
This is the reason why Jon Stewart is the boss and has his own TV show. [Look it's the best joke from Green Lantern] On a side note male assault. Is often villainized on the subject of the victim on multiple occasions and it's just really weird I mean I know there's a huge faction that just says believe the assaulter when it comes to women in trial but it gets actually worse when it comes to men trying to point out their ribbist.
Honestly Batman is way too comfortable with modern Talia, like at least back then Talia had a bit of morality but now she’s just a full on supervillain whom Batman treats like she’s petty thief like Catwoman
15:28 Kitty pride and Colossus (Kissed and had… questionable scenes when she was 13 and he 18) Professor X and Jean Grey (Didn’t actually date but still the Prof had feelings for her) Quicksilver and Crystal (Quicksilver is just gets gaslit and mistreated this whole relationship, she cheated on him multiple times and one time he confronted her about it she started playing victim saying he didn’t actually love her and then called him gay) Sin and Crossbones (This whole relationship started after he “deprogrammed” her by literally torturing her for weeks, also idk how old Sin is, but she don’t look 18 to me and the fact that people consistently refer to her as girl and not a woman doesn’t help) Nightcrawler and Jimaine (They are step-siblings and this aspect is focused on a suspicious amount) Medusa and Black Bolt (They are second-cousins) Black Widow and Alexi (She was forced to marry him by the KBG for unclear reasons) Carol Danvers and Marcus (He kidnapped her and held her prisoner in limbo, brainwashed her into being with him, impregnated her with himself erased her memories of the event send her back to earth where she proceeded to give birth to him and then when his plan didn’t work and he still couldn’t remain stable in her dimension brainwashed her again to force her to come back to limbo with him)
Gonna play Devil's advocate but usually when someone calls you "girl" or "boy" it's most likely demeaning especially when you're an adult. But yeah man crazy shit.
ProfX & Jean was just for a thought bubble and not even a serious one. I don't think Lee & Kirby even knew how old the character where at that point and they dropped it quick since it doesn't exist outside that line. Xavier & Haller is probably the more leery ship, since he met her when he was her telephathic psychiatry specialist.
Nightcrawler and Jimaine's relationship is made worse by a very important detail nobody likes bringing up even though it has decades of canon corroborating it : They were both raised by the same woman who adopted them that they call Mother, after she found both of them *abandoned as babies in Germany around the same time* . They have an adopted sibling they both call Brother and Nightcrawler even became blood brothers with him. Jimaine Szardos took on the name Amanda Sefton while she was catfishing Nightcrawler and never went back to being called Jimaine Szardos for what seems to be no explanation at all other than to make the family relationship in this romantic pair less obvious. Nightcrawler himself never went by Kurt Szardos for no reason, except the likely one I just mentioned for Amanda, and always went by Wagner when, for more than 20 years after he was created, there was still no explanation as to where the Wagner lastname even came from for him. Both Amanda and Nightcrawler have had an alternative reality daughter together too. Nightcrawler was also shown to have some romantic feeling towards Rogue, his other adoptive sister, in 616 and in an alternative reality where they were both raised as siblings.
That relationship is one of the main reasons why I hate Hal Jordan to this day. I don't care if it was retcon or erased from continuity. Hal Jordan dated and slept with minor. Also I heard that the person who wrote that relationship was arrested for CP.
"I do not care for this ship [Barbara Gorden and Bruce Wayne]" then rest assured that you're not alone. I don't think anyone cares for this ship except for Bruce Timm for some reason.
Batman being always around young boys was weird and you guys harp on him and Barbara? She was created to be his girlfriend in 1967 because of the Adam West tv series
Batman killed and Superman couldn't fly when they were first made too. Hell spiderman was considered an anti hero when he was first made lol....point is that this is all stuff we like to forget about
The gaze can be okay, as long as you allow some perspective. That is not all one sided, and preferably the character written in a way that makes them feel strongly written. A character can be written as sexy and feel like empowering instead of just written/designed to be spank material.
Gordan and Nightwing are useless losers so it's funny when Batman bangs Barbra don't care about the relatonship But it owns Nightwing and Gordon which is good
@@ironheadgaming6270 Gordon’s doing the absolute best that he can when half the police force is corrupt and villains have superpowers, and Nightwing is Bruce’s oldest and greatest success.
