The Problem With Female Stand-Up Comedy 

Yes, that's how I feel. Women can be funny, but for some reason it doesn't translate to the standup comedy scene. It's very perplexing.

I think women are great gossipers so they point you in the direction of a good joke or re-tell it....but it's rare for a female to make your stomach hurt off a original joke...Men do it all the time

Damn this is a lot of sexism did y’all miss the opening segment of this video

my comment was just about how weird it is that the female comedy industry has like no actually funny people when so many women are funny, but the replies are talking about women being “objectively unfunny” or some shit now??💀

@@Kiwanuu vincent kak on something icl 😭, he said its objectively true and then stated his own experiences with women

There's a shit-TON of people who are bisexual women of colo(u)r and they don't make that their entire personality, like ms. singh, it ain't that hard-

@@tvisha.mishra But if she didn't tell those joke her fellow bisexual women of color would feel under-represented. You can't win.

oh i didnt actually know she was bi! it makes sense though, that’s kinda dope

@@tvisha.mishra fuck off there is no u in color how dare you

@@SamanthaLain that was for ppl reading that aren't from US brO lol

This reads like the ironic summaries of Big Bang Theory 10 - 15 years back

20 years ago, she was legit funny.

Sarah Silverman (possibly in blackface) opening a gig: "*awkward pause*... ... ... ... *..."My vagina."* "AND THE CROWD GOES WILD!

Oh, don't worry, she has a joker up her sleeve, "we're all wondering why it couldn't have been Steve-O". **crowd goes silent**

Amy Schumer is one of those people where she’s terrible with her “own” material, but when written for/ edited, she’s great. I hate her, but she was hilarious in Unfrosted

She's definitely going to be a super famous comedian in the next few years. Absolutely goated

Came here to say this. What an incredible comedian, and for sure my favorite

And Iliza:3

I love her

jessica kirston is also really funny!

I second this ☝️ a good comedian should have other ways to emphasize what they want rather than screaming

This is why I love Tig Notaro. She’s so deadpan and quiet and takes forever to get to a punchline but you’re there laughing all the way

Right, like there's a mic for a reason you don't need to shout at us

but i do like her alot

I agree but I think some people can pull it off well and it suits them. Bill Burr comes to mind. One of my all time faves but everytime I watch him I gotta watch my volume or I’ll bust an eardrum lol

Gabi bell and Chad Chad fans unite!

I'm really bad about rewatching things I just can't do it without it feeling off, but youtubers like Gabby and Chad Chad I can rewatch and laugh at and not feel weird about! The only full fledged comedian I can do that with is Randy Feltface 😔😔 All in all Netflix should find better rewatchable comedians (I'm exhausted so this comment might be all over the place I apologize)

@@Sadie-rai psychopath

yes.

Haha

It's that and that they needed a reason to be included. If they aren't able to compete with the male comedians (due to talent or bias) they needed to be telling the jokes that men weren't telling. So they ended up just talking about periods and cum.

thats awsome

@blackspiderwebs: Her name?

Sounds like stuff the whole audience could relate to, too - I'm not a fan of comedians who spend their whole time alienating parts of their audience.

Nah impossible she probably stole jokes from a man

@@Lockfly Take that elsewhere. Women can think for themselves.

💀 her logic is so backwards

@@iLikeCok getting upset at the media is about creating more publicity (story about her being annoyed is the second publicity peice after the original media story. buy one get one free), shes not really upset shes just creating media dialogue to make it into more of a story for free advertsing. loads of people do this

To be fair, she probably doesn't write her jokes

I think it's more of a, "I'm more than that," Type of thing. Not saying I agree w her just what the logic seemed to be there.

What's a bisexual woman?

Omg yessss. I love that show and have genuinely laughed out loud so many times watching that.

i remember her doing the character way back on charlie brooker's show and i was so pleased to see she had a whole show to herself now

She is funny as fuck! They say women like funny men but it goes both ways, men love funny women too but women often are too afraid of embarrassment to attempt to be funny. It’s the same reason attractive men are terrible comedians. A beautiful woman who is confident and funny has the entire world in her hands.

She just popped up in my feed. I have to be in the mood for her (I'm easily embarrassed) but she's very clever.

Best female representation in media since the 1989 #1 hit from Belgium, "Pump Up the Jam" by Technotronic.

This is why I unironically prefer straight white male comedy.

@@akumpi They do the same thing.

​@@akumpi they do the same exact thing but alr...

I also love her delivery of jokes. Especially those about mental problems. When I found out I was bipolar, her jokes about it just hit different

Iliza (schlisinger?) is also hilarious

Was gonna comment about it, I love her! Adrienne Fish and Fortune Feimster has some clips I’ve seen too stuff too!

omg yes i love her

Fern Brady is my current favorite

I think it's 50% delivery and 50% the joke

The key to comedy is ti Ming

She sounds drunk

Amy just sounds like she’s on a hangover

Delivery, timing - how the jokes are structured - what syllable you put the emphasis on it's an art form. Amy Schumer is a joke stealing hack who doesn't even know how to tell a joke

So did Lily Singh thanking Mindy Kaling

​@@kyleguajardoWait what happened with Mindy Kaling?

@@thomicrisler9855 Short Answer: She's arrogant and entitled and spends a lot of time defending her bad behavior through virtue signalling by playing the victim of racism and sexism. She has also admitted openly to sexual assault and then using her position to force people into silence. For the long version, I'd recommend watching Cynical Reviews' video on her show Velma.

i love Catherine tate!

Yes!!

@Wynn Wynn then who’s supposed to make content only for kids?

Kind of answered your own question lol

Lily Sighn was doomed because of the schedule she was given for her show. I watched her vlogs and she looked so burnt out due to the crazy schedule. In spite of that she kept a smile and went through it bravely. She even admitted in a vlog when reflecting on season 1 the things that didn’t work. Season 2 felt like the right format and suited her better. It was really poor negotiation and over cautiousness that lead to the shows downfall.

Yeah this video just picks the worst. Sarah millican has been an icon of comedy in the UK for ages. Going to see her in a couple months. Ali Wong and Taylor tomlinson are brilliant. There are plenty out there.

i'm pretty sure they were literally just going "we need more diversity and lilly is already famous" because she does not have the skills to be a late night host

I haven't watched Mulan in months. I was thinking about the fan disarming this morning, just because it was so special to watch.

Ya it’s fine to not have nuance in superhero action movies, sometimes you just want to watch someone throw cars and fly and smash people across a town. But if you’re going to try and make a nuanced movie in that genre, what you definitely can’t do is take Superman and cast a women instead. That’s not nuanced. That’s Superman but cast with a women and a slightly different story.

I feel like this is the problem though. We shove femininity into these little boxes. What rule says that women can’t be strong enough to punch holes in ships? where does it state that women can’t be bullheaded, stubborn, or aggressive, in ways that are traditionally seen as masculine?

@@SamBuckyForever a majority of "strong" female representation IS women being traditionally masculine. thats the problem. why do women have to be masculine to be seen as strong? why are traditionally feminine things not seen as strong? Pretty much every strong female character in mainstream media has some sort of societally masculine trait, whether physical or personality.

@@cait3196 y’all stay saying this when This feminine archetype is all the media is made up of. Where are these masculine women yall speak of? Lmao

your dad sounds cool

your dad sounds awesome ❤️

W dad

what the person above me said

What the person said above me

I like how people act like it's their fault... On one hand your career goes nowhere but you're respectable and funny to all 7 of your regulars. On the other, a million dollars but you have to use jokes approved by David the Bigot. Everyone pretends they're the first kind until they're $40,000 into a shopping spree and realize they just blew their retirement.

@@RobinTheBot But this makes no sense, if her comedy was bigot she would have gotten canceled, not praised.

@@RobinTheBot she’s already made a ton of money with her RU-vid, book, tours, etc. so I don’t think she was doing this bc she was blowing money and needed more.

@@RobinTheBotshe had a pretty successful and huge RU-vid channel before she got into comedy tho it wasn’t her and her 7 followers it was her and her massive following that she had for nearly a decade before she even turned to regular television.She was already earning her tonnes of revenue before she even rlly turned to comedy television.

@@atbvip …so what was it then?

I wow I always thought chai was like that cinnamony tasting tea. I didn't know it was just tea tea 😂

I can't hear or see that word without my brain singing that time from Team America 🎶 Talking bout a montaaage🎶

this!!

right??? you can tell so many stories with so many experiences!! easy ways to make comedy out of ridiculous things people have said/done to you etc

But how is anyone supposed to figure out that she's a bisexual woman of color if they don't mention it constantly? After all, audience members are drooling imbeciles with the mental capacity of a cockroach and an attention span of about 10.734629185 seconds!

​@@kuunami "every identity I don't like is identity politics to me"

And the bad female comedians still get a platform as the big money sees it as woke activism instead of looking for the hilarious female comedians which there are many it’s just they aren’t as main stream and well known

The females sphere promote their worst.

@@hamoiq908 "the big money" really?

@@Nana-wi4gi Netflix

When I clicked this video, I was thinking that. I can definitely name some terrible specials by men but also so many that are better. One day the ratio will be better on the women's end.

Sooo... toxic femininity?

@@jjdelft3216 Kinda? I think toxic femininity is what Regina George does.

Yep

That's exactly how I feel about Captain Marvel tbh. Like, "tough" and "determined" cannot be a character's ONLY personality traits! People prefer the male characters because they're often fully developed, as opposed to just being 'strong.'

@@isfpoisson First, the character itself, is dumb. Similarly to Superman, the character just does too much and for that reason, it’s boring. - it’s like playing a video game with all the cheat codes on. It could also have something to do with the fact that the character is also played by someone with an incredible lack of personality that anyone would be interested in - essentially the character she plays (just without the powers - so even less interesting). The one shining spot that stands out is her arrogance and it’s not done in a fun/humorous way - most of her co-stars have shown they don’t even like her. That’s not a “we’re against women thing either. They do great with other women, just very evidently don’t enjoy working w her.

Yes yes

Kurtis is my favorite woman comedian

I don't think they qualify as comedians strictly.

@@bendover7841 not as Stand Up comedians for sure, but as comedians they might

@@Keijspermeister Kurtis has his own stand up show… I think he does classify

Delivery and timing and things like that are a HUGE factor. Im 100% sure there are women who can make pretty much the same jokes aa Amy but do it in a way thats hilarious.... not trying to hate on her or something its just: stand up comedy is definitely not for everyone.

@@idhunepijl1404 Yeah, like that first joke that made Gabi laugh is actually kinda good in terms of its content, but oh my god, Amy’s delivery is just horrible and devoid of personality

Yes! Taylor is just a great joke writer. Another great comic who also happens to be female is Rosebud Baker. I'm just starting to watch this so I'm not sure if anyone else gets mentioned lol

Taylor has amazing timing but also just has non vulgar relatabable comedy with mental health issues but just explains it in a great way.

@@idhunepijl1404 There are women who can make the same jokes funny. Just look at the original comedians whom Amy stole or inspired from. Her delivery and timing is the biggest problems but her attitude towards criticisms and crying 'oppression' and misogyny everytime people don't kiss her arse don't help either.

Definitely some truth, and it's why I feel like there's this unnecessary knee-jerk reaction against people who criticize lazily written female characters, but then there is also an unnecessary knee-jerk against female leads because there have been so many poorly written ones, and it feels like we all need to converge and meet on the "let's make actually good female main characters" line I think we all actually support.

​@@BeefIngotthey're haven't been right

Also Buffy the vampire slayer!!!

A girl being capable seems cool, even cooler if she's called kim POSSIBLE jdasjdjajsdjadajdjasd

Power puff girls should be another example

I think feminism means something different in USA than Europe, as in Europe it only means fighting abuse and subjugation of women. Such as women didn't have as many rights and were less represented in their own country. It wasn't until recently women had the right to not be raped by her husband. In USA it seems to be an insult by men who hate women, who spend their time searching out examples of idiots who talk nonsense to say all women who fight against abuse are like that. Funny how they spend too much time online whinging against women, filling comment sections no matter what the subject as an excuse to whine on against feminists and saying what women should want, but no woman finds an abusive misogynist who feels threatened by women who have rights against them to be a turn on. I also think men and women dislike each other more in the USA than Europe, as USA women tell men they're disgusting if not cir'cised and some men who had that done develop issues, such as less sensitivity, which they spend a lot of time online trying to take out on women. Like the USA man who was banned from entering Europe for making web pages promoting men rpe and abuse women when travelling. Although I also acknowledge men from many places who have had injunctions taken out on them by women offline, then use the internet to carry on being abusive.

I laugh more at people who aren't comedians, but comedians can still be very funny It's just so much easier to get people irl to make you laugh instead of comedians nowadays

So many people here haven't even watched that many female comedians. Just like with dudes, you have to be willing to sift through a lot of comedy to find the gems and not just watch whoever is popular at the time. My fav old broad is Kathleen Madigan, you should try her if you've never laughed at a woman "comedian" - also nice job putting that in quotes, not cringe at all

One of the reasons I think Taylor's long stand up works so well is because she tells stories, and paints the picture and carries you through that situation, often in a relatable but new way

Oh my god finally someone says it. I love Taylor Tomlinson. If you like her you will LOVE Ilisa Schlesinger!

Saw her live her crowd work was great! Really deserves more attention

100%. I would also recommend Hannah Berner and Yvonne Orji (and Jessica Kirson, if you're into dark humor comedians who like to play rough).

Yeah she’s good

She really seems pretty fucking cool as a person. She’s feminine but she writes about human experience, even my dad loves some of her albums. Even has a song called “human emotion”.

And that’s not to say that every woman needs to be feminine, it’s just cool to see someone who doesn’t rely on femininity and also doesn’t reject femininity. Very relatable for many women.

@@Oceanww great points

THIS! 👆100%!!!

That's why I don't like that much the "women in gaming" "women in stem" etc. Yes, I am an engineer. Yes I also happen to be a woman. Get over it. Like, on the one hand I am glad my actions help other women pursue what they want, but also I'm only doing it because I want to, not as any sort of message.

But the facts are people don't find most women funny. Most women find other women funny but for the majority, people aren't laughing at most female jokes

@@hinamatsuro1908 Yeah sure, but I wasn't talking about the comedic level

@@hinamatsuro1908 what is leading you to make that generalization? Is there some type of statistic you’re referencing or are you just… being misogynistic

@@ileana2708 Name me 1 female comedian that is funny, or a video. Is there a meme or popular funny joke on the internet created by a woman? Just from observation I've found most women aren't funny, except for some youtubers but they aren't even comedians Lmao. Yeah SOME women are funny and yeah obviously this narrarative will change in the future and maybe more women will be more funny than men and women will dominate comedy, but as of now most women just don't have comedy that is funny to most people and it's identified as just bad

@@hinamatsuro1908 so what you’re saying is you’re making the generalization based off nothing? What you’re telling me is that you’re attempting to speak for “most people” without any basis to back up your claims?

I don't know the context but maybe as she has gained a lot of money, she had the change to buy a house for her parents to move out of the hood but idk

I really don't think that Canada has something akin to "the hood" like the US. In the US, the housing projects that are now referred to as "hood" were specifically designed to segregate the, mostly, black population from the, mostly, white, suburban population. I can't imagine that being applicable to Canada.

@@raptorjesus6120 Toronto does, I can't speak for the other places in Canada since I've only been to Toronto.

@@raptorjesus6120trust me bro, we have some hood areas

She's trying to check all the woke boxes, like she worked her way from the bottom to get where she is. When in reality, they were looking for any brown woman and she just happened to be one...

Yea dawg I'm pretty sure that's not supposed to happen

Mine is only towards some fruit and my gums itch so when I tell people there's certain fruit I can't eat they don't believe me

me

...you thought an allergy to fruits and vegetables was a personality trait?

No fr I thought that’s just how kiwis work

Yeah I laughed at that ngl

@@ZachBobBob same

The crowd laughed on the joke before she could even finish the punchline

Yeah they was funny af ngl 😭🤣

yeah i hate that i giggled at it

I mean, that is a much better praise that "fucking bigoted assholes, good comedian" that I could say about so many other people. I prefer comediants that aren't funny over comediants that openly get on stage to spread hate/misinformation about marginalized people.

I don't think its very "nice" to say the phrase "drink like a homeless person"

@@catsandtaylorswift Definitely gonna need more context on this one before deciding. Is that in this vid? Edit: Ok, it is the video. I don't think it was meant in a bad way. She could have made a lil funnier though lol

My only thing is that one time she brought up Steveos friend who had recently died and joked that we all wished he had died instead.. she’s just a good bit insensitive

@@egodewav7810 She once joked about someone’s recently passed friend.

THIS!

THIS though. perfectly sums up how i feel when i watch her! i never was able to pinpoint it and seeing it described in so many words - you hit the nail on the head 💯💯💯

i was gonna say she seems super wasted in that video and it's honestly sad to watch

Being drunk is not good for the stage, but being high usually enhances a performance.

I so agree. All of her stand up sounds like she is high. It was never funny. It doesn't fit her overall appearance and vibe. There are some girls who can pull that off, but amy Schumer isn't one of those women. You need to be cool to pull that off, and i think amy thinks she's cool. But she really isn't.

A few hacks like Jeff Foxworthy got a lot of money and attention based on running the same joke over and over again, but even they usually fizzle out. Longstanding comedy changes with the times. You eventually have to sit down and write some new material.

bo burnham is a great example of a comedian whose comedy has stayed funny and relatable for years without being the same joke over and over. Inside was so so good, especially because he was making fun of his older stuff. he changed up his jokes while keeping his sense of humor intact, which can be hard to do

so you’re saying that amy schumer didn’t grow as a person? i mean… can’t argue with that

It's hard to evolve as a comedian when your humor is stolen from actually funny people.

I think the biggest issue I see with her on every criticism she gets is that she copies verbatim from other comedians. Now I don't think there's anything wrong with a small "yoink and twist", you know occasionally taking a good joke and putting your own twist on it can be okay sometimes. The issue is when you line-for-line copy the entire joke from somebody else and just say it with worse delivery.

Ya both the first clip that was showed and the announcement music video thing both are saying I’m not just a bi woman of colour and I’m gonna do things different than the white men and then proceeds to make every joke about being a bi woman of colour and do nothing else different than the white male hosts. In other words walked right into the point and still missed it

it seems like her writing team screwed her over with that (if you take her word for it) Anthony Padilla's video with her talks about it

She did Not. Her complaints were absolutely correct. She still did jokes about it because its part of who she is but she was reduced to that. She had other comedy too. People refused to see that for reasons only you know since you refused to see.

@@MZBS639 This is how she sold herself. If somebody watched this preview and didn't find it funny, they are under zero obligation to watch the show and hope it somehow becomes more to their taste.

I also think pausing between each name for the audience to applaud killed the momentum that might have made it work

I'm thinking about how that joke was presented and then how a similar joke would have been presented by, I dunno, like, John Oliver or someone. Would have fucking crushed it.

It doesn't work because when your only joke is "brown women" the 100th joke about brown women isn't funny. The reason why a joke about black people works for Donald Glover or Eddie Murphy works is because they have OTHER things to talk about

I always cry at that scene

Umi Matsuzaki in From up on Poppy Hill is one of my all-time favourite film characters!

@@SomaKitsune I love from up on poppy hill even though it's one of the less popular ghibli movies

This comment made me think about the Resident Evil 3 Remake. Carlos keeps telling Jill how smart and how good she is to her face, almost like she was some kind of special needs child in need of validation. I felt embarassed for her. Of course it wasn't like that in the original.

This, and people who use comedy to educate and shed light on other aspects of the human condition, like politics, disabilities, human rights, or social events or movements. Not in a click-bait way or riding off of what’s trending, but to actually comment and expose aspects of modern day that we otherwise don’t get a chance to really look at. If I don’t make sense, it’s because I’m sleep-deprived and I’m sorry 😂😢

Have you seen Jacqueline Novak's Get on your knees? It's a 90 minute one-woman-show mostly deconstructing blowjobs, but it's very intelligent, fast-paced and funny. In my opinion it has it's flaws certainly, but definitely worth checking out.

absolutely ❤​@@mariecarie1

All while screeching inaudibly *STOP MAKING IT ALL ABOUT MY SEX LIFE/RACE/WOMANHOOD DAMMIT* Schumer’s not funny, full stop. She is the epitome of a nepo baby- she got several hands up because of who she’s related to. Singh is just a perpetual victim. She wants things because she thinks she’s worked for them and deserves them. Margaret is moderately funny- she’s not bad but she’s no one I’d go out of my way to watch if a new special drops. Whitney has one of the most unironically hilarious podcast moments- talking to Howie Mandel, she throws herself the biggest pity party and is ONLY a thing because Rogan loves her and insists on hyping her. God help us when she’s with Burt Kreischer. Gadsby is just so cringe. There’s not a thing about her that doesn’t give me secondhand embarrassment and cringe every single time she remotely tries to be funny. There’s very few women I find hilarious- my favorite is Kathleen Madigan. Absolutely hilarious and never not funny. But you better be hilarious if you expect me to listen/watch. Dave Chappelle, Ricky Gervais, Eddie Murphy, Kathleen Madigan, Louis CK, and Matteo Lane.

@@mariecarie1It's the social equivalent of dark humor. Seeing the fallacies and everyday struggles of being a human, and then being able to laugh at it. Being able to acknowledge things while still making people laugh is an art. Emergencies responders have some of the best humor and it's a coping mechanism. I personally suspect that like other forms of art, comedians cope with life by laughing at it and helping others do the same

Omg right?? She's greatly talented and definitely my favorite

same!!!!!

I feel like she's one of the only women in comedy that even misogynistic men tend to agree is really talented and funny. She's just good at what she does imo

The way she described how guys feel love was the most relatable shit. Like when she says I want to lick her heart, goddamn that's what I felt.

Shes a real stand up. You can hear, see and feel the experience behind her material. Lots of female stand up is just “clap humour”. They call out things that do need to be called out, but people go to comedy shows to laugh, not to think.

i feel like the women in these big movies always end up beign mary sues (or close to it)

@@MelissaBezerra Well, obviously. It’s the easiest way to represent all women in the laziest way possible. Gives writers a break from actually having to do their job.

Haven't seen the live action Mulan but I do agree about the animated Mulan. Because in the animated Mulan, she fought in the war so that her old father wouldn't. She just fought for her country and went back home.

You just did 💜🤘

THIS

She’s also one of my favorites! Searched the comment section to find someone mentioning her!

She’s a perfect example!!

She is definitely one of my favourites if not the best. She makes me laugh my ass off whatever she jokes about. Her delivery is engaging, her timing, face expressions, voice imitations are all so well done. Most of the time I am already smirking before the punchline

YES

yup same shes one of the relatively few female comedians ive seen from the algorithm thats really funny to me, shes one of my favorite comedians tho

Right!!!

Yeah got confused as well, dudes funny as fk

Same

I'm in those teenage years right now and at first I thought she wasn't that bad but evrything after her first joke and the music video felt a "bit" much for me so i think I'll stay with my funny yt videos 👍🏼

Teenagers are not pre-pubescent. They are pubescent.

@@GreenEnvy. He probs means like 12/13

I will watch Lily Singh on mute only cuz I find her physically attractive. Stacked AF but simply her words are annoying & not funny...

instead of taking care of her children she was at a bar?

@@CEWIII9873 They were with their dad.

@@BonnerDoesRU-vid I agree - the father should have custody if the mom frequents seedy bars!

​​@@CEWIII9873So people with children can't go out and have fun?? And nobody says the father has custody nor that she frequents bars.

Be freal; if it was a dad doing stand up at a bar, you wouldn't bat an eye. Seriously, dude, get a life instead of obsessing over what women who just so happen to have children, do in their spare time. Because, by the way, mothers are still individuals with lives of their own outside of kids.

Yeah, she says jokes that are burns for rednecks who don’t even know she exists and aims it at everyone who for the most part doesn’t care and sees right through how shallow it is.

it could’ve been funny cause tv shows have writers. the potential comes from them

That’s because it’s more than about what you say. Timing, inflection, tone, mannerisms all play a role in making something funny. You can say something that SHOULD be funny all day long but if it is mistimed or in the wrong tone it becomes rude or insensitive or whatever, but not funny.

I think that comes into play in a different way with Lilly Singh My thing about Lilly is she relies on the whole “I shouldn’t be here” thing. She does the whole second person: “you’re probably thinking” and no, I’m not thinking that. She underestimates her audience’s empathy and intelligence, as well as over-explaining literally every joke. Like, as a viewer I’m sitting there thinking: I don’t care that you’re an Indian woman, I never said you shouldn’t be here. But the whole time she’s like “I shouldn’t be here” and it just leaves you feeling like: ok, what are you doing to prove that you should be here. Because all I’ve heard is you talking about how out of place you are, but you haven’t done anything to make it seem like you deserve it. If she keeps saying she doesn’t belong and she doesn’t make funny jokes or provide insightful commentary, I’m going to believe her. Not only is she not that funny, she’s actively holding herself back by priming her audience to think: why am I not watching a different show, why is she hosting rather than whoever or so and so? She also specifically calls out white people and Middle America, alienating and insulting them but not in a funny way just in a mean way, but who does she think watches late night talk shows? 😂

That's a good point. I am of the mindset that women don't need "personas" to be funny. Sure, personas can be fun if you establish yourself in said persona, but if you lack authenticity and you put on a persona to make up for it, the audience will see right through it.

:3

Thank you Juggernautdeath2! Very cool 😎

I really like Maria Bamford, and I think she's the exception to the rule when it comes to her style of comedy.

What was the podcast called

Like Tig Notaro and Maria Bamford. Even Chelsea Peretti. The first two are utterly incredible stand ups

@@cablehogue599 It was in an interview from years ago, I think his interview with Pete Holmes? His "You Made It Weird" podcast.

@@SMATF5 I love her and I believe he specifically mentioned how much he loved her as well! An exception that proved the rule.

Ikr?

that joke sucked

Wat?

I can't believe she said the name whitney Cummings so much without a single cum joke

@@connor5669 waaahhh, waaaaahhhhhhhHHHHH

And also her fellow quadropedal animals.

Unfunny + Terrible personality + Terrible human + Genocide Endorser

I think the most problematic aspect of Amy Schumer’s performances is that she perpetuates the stereotype that beached whales can’t be funny.

She’s also just a bad person

She’s only there because Jewish and Uncle Chuck.

I feel like she’s always some degree of intoxicated too, which can’t help with memory retention or ease of delivery

i think she's trying to be relatable and casual and failing miserably

She stoled the jokes from many different comedians, look up the "amy Schumer stiling jokes" And you will know also she ask for same pay check as high paid male comedians either wise it's male dominant country

@@corneliastreet2491 fr she sounds so drunk

Oh God you’re right. Now I can’t unsee it or hear it 😂

Yes to this!!!

There is jimmy kimmel...

Very true. Also, Amy Shummer used to be hilarious. Not every comedian has the longevity that all the GOATS have. It’s very rare infact.

THISS

Steven Crowder identifies as a comedian. Let that sink in for a while

I feel like she doesn’t guide the audience enough and her timing makes no sense

nah fr 😭 plus she always sounds drunk which j makes it awkward

John Mulan is up there with Kevin hart Dave Chapelle and Gabriel Iglesias for me cause they do that very well too

Tom Segura is another that just has an inane talent for placing the audience in his shoes and experiencing whatever he's talking about.

@@superfish60 *old* Dave Chappell*

@@SatanicGhostCat some of us relate to new chappelle too XD

@@Snake369 he’s transphobic as hell nowadays though lmao

Yeah this is the prevailing issue, and I think it's that way because the industry is still focused on trying to let people know they're being inclusive, so they end up forcing their minority cast way too hard. It's the same with movies about women who don't fit into conventional beauty standards, with Tammy being like the only movie about a plus sized woman that doesn't constantly mention it I can think of.

It’s gotta be done right, when it’s just about identity then poorly written. I also feel like that if a a character is written and they do just happen to be, for example, gay then people still hate on it for being about identity because it’s a different experience. A gay person will have other experiences so it’s not never gonna come up. I feel a lot of it comes from bigotry but I’m the flip side so many attempts of inclusion are so poor because companies don’t care they’re just want that dollar dollar

This. But this isn’t just queer or disabilites, but also sex, race or so many other factors. Never force a character to be something, let them be what makes sense.

I do agree. I think it's definitely OK to have some films centered around common difficulties of being queer, disabled, or just generally marginalized, and being able to overcome. 1 to give hope to people like the main character, and 2 to share the difficulties that are faced with people that don't face them. That being said, I think it's equally, if not more important, to have diversity presented and not necessarily even mentioned. Idk why but the first example that came to mind is Nigel in The Devil Wears Prada. I can't remember if he is expressly said to be queer, but it's atleast implied. He is a major character, but really the only scene that loosely touches on his queerness is when he lectures Andy on the power fashion has and he shares his experiences growing up hiding fashion magazines.

As some with multiple disorders and a minor disability I always say "there's a difference between using your disorder and an excuse vs an explanation". I think the underlying theme cam be used here, there's a different between and disabled character and a character who happens to be disabled. One has the main focus on the disability while the other the disability is just a character triat. Same for LGBT+ and BIPOC representation at times.

Aisling Bea!!!!

I think thats part of it. It can feel liberating and be used to provoke (quite a big part of stand up) but overusing it takes away the value of it and just makes it boring. If you look at most popular male comedians they talk a lot about situations or just funny thoughts they have... if they were just talking about hairy balls or how much they fuck people would be bored pretty quick as well. (Unless they somehow make it hilarious in an original way everytime which I think is literally impossible)

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Shit. I replied in the wrong place.

I think it's a valid question. In the past several years I would say the answer to this is no. Women aren't told to not do these things by "society". Women are more equal and have more opportunities than any point in history. I just don't think this is a valid argument anymore. If it were the early 2000s or 90s I would agree. And even if you look at female comedians back then, they just weren't this vulgar. I personally feel like when it comes to female comedians like Schumer they just have a chip on their shoulder and want to compete with men and prove they're better. This is the same woman that complained that Netflix was sexist for giving her 11 million and paying Chapelle and Rock more as if her name should be uttered in the same sentence as them.

that’s not how comedy works. if somethings funny it’ll make you laugh, no matter who produced the funny moment

She's definitely a fave of mine as well. Her comedy's just very relatable in general, girl or guy. She talks about growing up in church and just growing up in general, going through those awkward years, which we've obviously all been through.

I guess is the only woman comedian,who is naturally funny,for everyone.......

I agree very funny, humble and great delivery

@@lelloz7444I like Taylor Tomlinson, but also Michelle Wolf fucking kills me

I like her too, but I just watched two of her specials, and prettymuch every joke is based on, or makes reference to her gender and expectations surrounding her gender. Imo, however, there's nothing wrong with basing ones comedy on ones own life experience and identity. It's all just art, some people will like the painting, some will complain about it, red dragon might EAT the painting, but the fact that it elicits a reaction from everyone is part of what makes it art.

She is such a hilarious woman, I’m so glad she made it onto ASIP because the show wouldn’t be the same without her. The Mick is also pretty great.

She also has the best fake gagging sound in the business, no one can almost throw up on camera as good as she can.

She's awesome in the podcast aswell! Amazing episodes!

@@The_Fat_Turtle Love the episode where she has Charlie “walk in her shoes” for a day and has him do a stand up routine 😂

But there's a difference between acting a script written for you, and being a stand-up comedian. I do love her though and will always love Sunny.

I think that just sort of highlights that "bad comedy" for big female comedians is not even that bad. I mean it's bad, but it's not Jim Breuer.

@@TheBc99 every bad comedian is gonna have the occasional good joke. But I agree Jim Breuer is just dogshit

That was funny but I didn't smile at all