The Problem with Neptunia Games 

I think the biggest problem with this series is the disconnect between the developers and the consumers like us. Idea Factory created this series and intended it to be a happy go lucky, silly little fan service parody game. Only thing is, people played it, enjoyed it for the characters, and played more and grew attached to characters. Now we're left with fans wanting a more serious story, and more meaningful character development, with less fanservice, which Idea Factory just isn't prepared to deliver. In a way, it's like being mad or getting bored of Lucky Star for being too comedic.

My main problem is reusing everything. Models. Character traits. Maps. Enemies. Music. *Voice lines. Dialogue. **_Storylines._* Come to think of it, do we even _have_ a continuity anymore?! _Did we ever have one?!_

My biggest problem with the series is that they love to use the same jokes over and over again.

I poured like 200 hours into VII, platinum'd it, bought most of the DLC's and all that, so once VIIR was announced I wanted to back flip off a cliff into a pit of lava

I want a fighting game Neptunia and an open-world, GTA-style Neptunia. And as for the latter, it can be done. The universe of Neptunia is friggin’ huge, so, yes, it’s doable. Wonderful video, YSN. ;)

The problem is the waifus are not real. It hits right in the feels.

lord help me, i own every game available on steam. why do i love these games so much.

The real issue is that people view the series as a whole and not as progressing games. If you take HDN1, MK2, V and V2, you'll see great improvement from each to the next. But because CH likes to m Remake games, people get burned out and complain about reuse. If you only use the 4 main games, the reuse isn't as much as you'd think but toss in the other 8 or so remakes And spinoffs and boom

Actually prior to the first Neptunia game being released, the developers asked SEGA, Nintendo, Sony, Capcom, Bandai Namco, etc. etc. in Japan if it was alright to make a game with heavy parody of their consoles and it's IPs and all aforementioned companies kinda just gave the green light without any monetary exchange. So if anything the Neptunia franchise is kinda the "licensed" parody of all gaming related companies and all it's properties. To note, Japan it's self have a virtually non-existant law when it comes to doing parody, there are loads of people and organizations over there who tend to get im trouble if you release a product or service with blatant spoof or references to someone else's work without any former consent.

My biggest issues with the series, is that they never go more in depth with some of the key characters, or stay consistent with some things, such as Croire for example. She is said to come from a separate dimension, and is basically the mouthy tomboy evil twin of histoire, and that's it, nothing more. Next, Underling/Linda, who was basically the team rocket to Nepgear's Ash, and at the end she said she would rebuild ASIC. However, according to Warechu that flopped, and she has never been heard from since. And finally, Plutia, who is just overpowered beyond all hell. I mean come on, no weakness or more importantly, any consequences for her rather sadistic fear-inducing actions, especially since her power is reliant on the faith of her followers. I mean come on, Rei Rhyghts acted the same way, and it bit her in the ass, yet Plutia gets no coup d'etat thrown at her. Just so much wasted potential in the story.

Tired of remakes? Great! Hyperdimension Neptunia Re;birth1 *Plus* was announced... Wait a minute... God darn it!

I played a couple of Neptunia games before. Most of them share similar problems: 1. Lack of world building: The world doesn't feel interesting at all. 2. Lame villain: They have little to no threat to the happy-go-lucky cast. 3. Boring gameplay: The gameplay loop lacks polish. You can pick any games from Idea Factory and they usually have similar feel to hyperdimension neptunia. Idea Factory's game lack innovation and is somewhat asset-flipping in nature. It's a shame though since the character design is actually pretty good.

I think the main problem is that the games stopped in time. There are no "real/actual" developments on any feature. And people obviously get bored of that.

My main problem is that the main characters barely develop if at all. At this point, we hardly get to see the rest of their personalities. In one of the Drama CDs (you know, the fan service stuff), we got to see a side of Neptune that we never get to see. She gets flustered and embarrassed, and loses focus on the game she was playing. It's adorable, and really makes you wonder if she ever gets like this in canon.

I think the problem of recycled content is something that most Idea Factory/Compile Heart games suffer from. Most of them seem to share a pool of the same assets (you'll find the exact same enemies across completely different game franchises) using RPG gameplay that's almost identical save for a unique mechanic or two and the writing of most of them feels... samey, for lack of a better word. With that said, there are a few (unlocalized at the moment) games that seem to be breaking the mold a bit.

My biggest problem with the Neptunia series is that the candidates don't get much spotlight like their older sisters despite their better maturity and relationships.

You forgot lack of worldbuilding

Only now seeing this video. My biggest issue with the series is wasted potential. I absolutely love the characters and world that's been built for the series, but we never get to see it in full action and my personal forgiveness of the flaws is too high for me to reasonably suggest the series to friends and have them see what I see. With all the remakes it'd be kind of suicide to suggest this, but I think the series could benefit from a proper reboot. The Re;Birth games had the opportunity to fix the storytelling problems in the series, such as reworking HDN and mk2 to make the original trilogy a single continuity, yet they passed on it and only really adjusted HDN's story to fit a more linear gameplay structure. If they're not going to adjust the games to fall in line with each other, the best we could hope for is an adaptation that could improve the story... Which brings us to a bit of a tangential problem: the anime sucks. Sure, it has some good ideas and it's neat to see certain sequences fully animated, and I can't knock the soundtrack, but the animation cut a lot of corners and being limited to a single cour meant they had to make drastic sacrifices in the story, and I don't agree with many of the choices they made as well as their reasonigs, such as making Trick be the only one of the Four Felons to appear and placing him in the second episode to ruin first impressions... As I said, I want an adaptation that capitalizes on the series strengths and gives it the dedication it deserves, whether it be another anime, a western animated series, a live-action series, or a movie series... I know some of those sound also like suicide, but I feel that it's precisely the lack of risk-taking that's caused the series to rest on its laurels of "good" and not into something people can agree is amazing. However, back to the games themselves: even if we don't get a full story reboot, I do want the game structure to be a bit different with a higher budget. - Firstly, fully-3D hub worlds. I want to know what it's like on the ground level of each of these nations, get to know the culture, the technology, the architecture... we get it teased through the 2D backdrops and the Planeptune dungeon map from Victory, but I want to truly be able to feel like I could live in Gamindustri. - Secondly, while I do enjoy the series' main gameplay (specifically its VII incarnation the best), I agree that a refresh could add new life into the series. We could go with a real-time combat system, and personally I think that the musou style that Tamsoft came up with for U and Zombies feels truer to the series' nature than 4GO's... - Thirdly, the reliance on "waifu culture" is only hindering the series. The sexualization makes it hard to attract a general audience, and the desire to please hollow fans who only like characters for their appearance and base traits means that the status quo must be maintained - characters can never truly grow or evolve. This is a massive source of lost potential, since characters like Neptune, Vert, and Plutia have some seeds that could be expanded upon in a story that gives them more respect... Personally, I'd also make some new outfits for certain characters to be less revealing, such as a replacement for the Green Processor, but that's more personal than anything else. - Fourthly, that reliance on a status quo also affect the continuity between games. With how the oracles were put on a bus in Victory and how only five Ultra Dimension characters are mentioned in VII with the three that don't have speaking roles not even being referred to by name, I honestly worry that the eventual fifth main series game will ignore Uzume and Gold Third, as well as the massive changes they made to Hyper Dimension... As such, I want the series to be put under proper care to let it expand upon more ideas and demonstrate continuity more proudly... - Fifthly, FULL ENGLISH DUB. Zeus almighty, the lack of a budget makes itself more consistently apparent here since it's outright missing content. Off the top of my head, only MegaTagmension had a mostly complete dub - all of the story sequences were dubbed, and they had the common sense to automatically switch languages for the undubbed Backstage scenes. This is also something that makes the remakes weirder - as is most apparent with Victory and Re;Birth 3, different scenes are dubbed between the two versions, even important ones! Fix this all with complete dubs. Put more food on the actors' tables. - Sixthly, as you brought up in the video, we need more new dungeons. I can justify the reused assets the most in the Re;Birth series and spinoffs since they're for handhelds, but it's just embarrassing by VII and VIIR. I'm a bit more tolerant with some assets returning for specific named locations, like Virtua Forest or Haneda City, but it's necessary for the series to grow to its full potential. Those are my thoughts. The series has been stagnant for far too long, and it's frustrating for hardcore fans like myself to see the potential this series could have be ignored...

Yellow: Stop with the remakes. IF: *Makes a remake of a remake with Neptunia Gogo game 5* Yellow: *Internally screaming*

Neptunia franchise: only slightly less confusing than Fate

I still firmly believe that they should pick up what they saw from Neptunia U/mega tag or 4GO, those 2 games were fun and diverse enough to keep me entertained and I HOPE to have another action-rpg oriented game like 4GO but with more stuff to do: that game felt a beta-test than a real game and I remember seeing everything in barely 30 hours: I wanted more damn it! Also I would love to see a more modern console war: the current 4 goddesses are mostly about the previous generation (except Neptune) but I would love to see a ps4 or a Xbox one or even switch twins or something. The game is already about pop culture reference so I still think an update on current gen would be pretty hilarious and fun to see (plus we'd get new characters)

I feel like Compa (Compile Heart) is always playing safe when it comes to the Neptunia Franchise. I just hope they would treat Neptunia like they treated Fairy Fencer.

My problem with the Neptunia series as a hardcore Nep fan for about 3 & a half years is more so balance with the gameplay, especially in the early titles. What I mean is that there's little done to balance boss battles with the dungeon common mobs that you fight, the bosses often requiring you to be 10 or 20 levels above what you currently are. It wouldn't be a big deal if the exp. gains weren't so minuscule or the exp. needed to level up wasn't on the same level as a damn MMO. This problem is definitely most noticeable in Victory, as that game is just outright brutal unless you endlessly grind. This is actually the reason a lot of my friends that tried Neptunia just dropped it on the spot. Most mainline Neptunia games are very very grind-heavy and people don't want to just constantly grind to progress through a story only to have to grind 20 minutes later to progress again. This, in my opinion, REALLY REALLY hurts the games' accessibility. Though I think you've made solid points in the video too, although one thing I'd like to mention is that there isn't that big of a difference between mk2 & Re;Birth2 and Victory & Re;Birth3 story-wise. Sure, some characters had to be removed and new ones had to come in to compensate for them, but generally they tell the same story, just with some slight differences in what characters appear. I wouldn't necessarily consider mk2 & Victory "non-canon" and I even consider them valid alternatives to playing the Re;Birth games if you have a a PS3 and your PC is made of mashed potatoes. But that's just my take. P.S. Keep up the great content. Your channel's a nice little niche and the only Nep-related channel that I follow.

I like how you talk about the Nep games alot...it's like we're just one big happy weeb family on this channel...

EY I love how this video actually goes over some problems within the franchise in a calm, concise manner, without attacking detractors of the games being discussed!

Personally I wanted more english lines, I fell in love with the series and bought all the games since Re;Birth1 even tho I am a fan for like 2 months. I really disliked how the english dub doesn't have all the talking cuts all talk

Neptunia VII is worded like that because it's a reference to the fact that it's the 7th main line game

Honestly, I find the constant reminder of Nep being the main character or begging to be the mc extremely aggravating.

I just feel like the series has loads of untapped potential, both with the setting and with the characters, with morals and ethics, with world-building and growth. There is just so much that could be done. For example, how about a spinoff that follows the Conquest Ending timeline that focuses on the aftermath and on how Nepgear could possibly salvage the situation. It could be a great opportunity for character growth as well as adding some moral complexity to the games.

That actually helped me figure out what to start with thanks!

Damn, I've never thought something that I constantly searched for quite some time would exist one day. Be it on Google or RU-vid.

The greatest problem is that the humor is getting stale- the series is like a overly long cowweb and I still havent seem new vert hentai being uploaded in a while. Specially the last point. SPECIALLY THE LAST POI-

I can honestly say after playing maybe five games? Neptunia rebirth, Neptunia blanc vs Zombies, Neptunia 4 goddesses online, Neptunia v2, and Neptunia sister vs sister. It’s lost it’s charm. But when you play gust games like Atelier series or Blue reflection, the characters, story, and monsters, match the atmosphere of the game. For example, Blue reflection second light, is an all female school girl fan service game but, it has a lesson behind it about growing up and building connections. The monsters are equally cute and weird and the soundtrack is amazing! Yes, the characters do spend time together and as I mentioned you get innuendoes but it’s light charm reminds you that’s it’s a girl cast without pushing it in your lap by making lame jokes like Neptunia. It’s just a simple thing like an everyday school life. A character might talk about a boyfriend or have another girl try their cooking. But you get the idea. Neptunia had that spark at first but now it seems lost in the direction of where it wants to go.

Community: We want a new main line game Idea F and Compile H: Did you say you wanted a remake of a remake of the first game?

The Reason why Nisa and GUST got kicked out of the Cast, was because both Companies were involved with mk2 but not with the Re;Birth, its all a Case of Copyright

I love these videos about neptunia I love learning this series

"It feels like you're playing the same game over and over again." - the Assassin's Creed curse.

I appreciate the spolier alert. I'll go watch another of your videos.

I'm fine with spin offs. (I mean, I always considered everything after the first game spin off) Hell, I'd be down for a Neparty game ala Mario party. PS: I really miss Cave. Black Label was amazing.

I never played any of these games (because my PC is really weak for 3D games, and I don't have any modern console yet), but I really love watching all of these videos. You really got me interested in this series (and Disgaea), I really want to play them at some point in the future.

In my personal experience, i became Nep fan arround May of this year. A few years ago, a friend recommended me the anime and games, i did listen to him but didnt try out then. Back in May, i was bored and decided to watch the anime, didnt impress me at first, but as i was watching, it become really interesting and i did want for more. Checked out about games, and few days later, the Nep pack became discount in Steam, i decided to buy them all to try the series, because i got the feeling that i would love it. Then i was searching where to start and then i got confused, many remakes and titles, so i ended up in your channel, where you had this vid about where to start in the Nep series. I took your advice and started with Nep rebirth 1. I loved the game, but when i got to Rebirth 2, i got confused about the story. It felt like it could be a sequel if there was just a little adjudment, like "Arfoire return as a terrible monster after being defeated by the CPUs" but it wasnt, so i got confused but decided to try it anyway. With the spin off, didnt really bother that much, when i red that they were alternate storys and do not affect main line, decide to keep them for later. In my personal opinion, the VIIR game should just be and update about textures, models, etc for the original VII, and the new gameplay shoulded come with a sequel, maybe a spin off, but that would be more confusing. I dont think there is any way to solve the Nep games problem, the only possible way, would be a remake that have the original 3 games in 1, with the new graphics, textures, sequences, etc, and fixing the story once for good, saying to new comers "Hey, if you wanna star the series, play this one", but that will be really annoying for fans who just want more content, they would have to realese a sequel at the same time in order to prevent this, but this is really unlikely. The only we can hope is that IF start mining their mine gold like they should, becuase Nep games are that, a Mine Gold that IF does not know how to mine properly. Thats just my though...

i like some level of repetition. it builds habit, which stabilizes character. if something has to be unstable, i prefer the instability to be superficial.

Solid review. I'm relatively new to the series and all the remakes was really confusing to me and excessive. I only recently learned that Re;Birth 2 and 3 were remakes of MK2 and Victory. And that ReVerse is a remamaster of a remake... So I ended up getting those instead of the older counterparts. I hope they come out with a new mainline game with new character models, new characters and new attacks in the battle system

I'd like to see this series as a more sandbox kind of game. The series has a notable cast of NPCs to use as background characters.

My issue is a large chunk of the mainline games feel the same. I started with Mk2 and I absolutely loved it. It played a large part in me getting into JRPGs in the first place. But then I played Victory and it was EH, fine, but the Rebirths I just couldn't bare to play any of them for very long because it just felt like the exact same game I had played back in 2012. Recently started VII and so far the mostly new (for me, they might not be new to the series don't know) enemies and totally different setting (at least where I'm at so far, which is early in the game) have kept me interested even when the gameplay bits are still more or less what I've played before, but with some doodads added to it. Like they don't need to totally reinvent the game with every new entry, but just make it stand out from the others. Atelier is a good example. All the games follow more or less the same structure of fairly light-hearted story, good characters, and lots of gathering and item creation, but all of the games are able to stand out on their own rather than feel like you're playing the same game. Also I'm sad about the removal of Gust and Nisa because Gust was adorable and Nisa had a great side cutscene referencing Madoka, but whole ordeal was likely out of their control so EH.

The problem is that CH/IF are not Triple A game companies. They're AA Niche ones and CH have other game titles that they're working on and also having problems with Soyny's Censorship issues. Mary Skelter being one of them that it's a 2D dungeon crawler and it'll be the same if they've reskin it with Nep characters instead. They're also poking at Mobile games with their 25th Anniversary game coming out with ALL there other games which is going to be one hell of a cameo combo, esp when Nep and some other character fused into one.

My only problem with Neptunia is that all the 3 Rebirth games having the same assets can turn off some people midway through the series (they were all released in the same year though, so I don't know how you had to wait that much for remakes like you said in the video), anyway I think they're going the right path with VII, more unique assets and music, from now on I think every new Nep game will have a more unique presentation.

I think Iris Heart’s character as a whole is a bit of a problem, the version of Iris in the anime was fine and made her likable. In the games, not so much

I thought it was written “Megadimension VII” because it was BOTH a sequel to Victory but also the 7th mainline game (assuming Rebirths 1-3 are games 4-6, considering such continuity as Maker characters from Victory showing up in Rebirth 1)

I terms of writing I wish that they would actually put some time into making Vert a more likeable character especially since she is supposed to be one of the lead characters but the writers just don’t seem too interested in actually putting in effort with her. I want to like her but it’s just not very fun watching the little sister gag time and time again, not to mention how she constantly belittles Blanc for her chest size it just feels very mean spirited and that’s not a very good thing in a game series I come to for a more lighthearted tone. Also I do agree that they need to cool it on all the remakes. Making the rebirth series I understand but with viir it feels like their not really focused on creating anything new for the series, at least nothing a step in the right direction vii originally was.

Honestly the main issue so far is the HEAVY status quo and lack of the games actually matering, at least in the mainline series, for all I know all the games are standalones, which means that any development they girls get feels worthless cause they can just get scrapped the next game. Also the constant use of the same joke, I feel like the games sometime don't know how to pace their humor and either overload scenes that shouldn't have it, or even underuse it at times.

More characters isn't necessarily a good thing. Looking at you, Senran Kagura. What I feel the series is desperately lacking is fresh material. New interactions are few and far between and we're constantly...CONSTANTLY subject to the same jokes like lonely Noire or characters obsessed with Vert's boobs or Vert going little sister crazy. Booted up Cyberdimension and those last two jokes rolled into one not even a half hour in I nearly rolled my eyes out of my head. CH/IF needs to mix it up basically or else, well, things will just suck more.

I agree with your sentiments YSN; i got into the series on a whim with Mk2, and really enjoyed that game. Then the rebirth series came out on Vita and i bought those, but was super disappointed that specific characters were missing from other franchises that i'm a fan of (especially Disgaea). As for the side games, i enjoyed Hyperdevotion Noire, but i thought VS Sega Hard Girls (in terms of gameplay and graphics) was bleh, it's that 2010's trend of putting bloom in EVERYTHING X_x. I own (most) of the games on PC now, minus the newer ones like Four Goddesses Online, Neptunia Vll etc. It seems (to me anyhow) like Nep games (minus the newest ones) are suffering similar problems as games like Fallout 3, New Vegas, Skyrim etc of using the same engine WAY past its prime X_x.

The characters need to actually change and evolve over time at least to some extent (instead of just endlessly beating their character tropes to death; reusing the same jokes over and over) and they need to stop recycling assets quite so much.

So, controversial opinion here, I think they should reboot the series with a fresh cast, a fresh setting, a fresh plot, and fresh gameplay. They could even tie it in with the actual series. Maybe in the next game something huge happens that causes the Neptunia universe to reboot itself, transforming the cast into different characters all together while modifying the world to fit. Sounds like fan fiction, I know, but with the jumbled mess that is the lore and plotline of the series, while there isn't really much beyond their personalities to get others attached to the characters. Perhaps they should take a few notes from Senran Kagura which, while having the same style of gameplay, they tend to change up the setting from time to time while adding some bits and pieces of certain character's backstories. I just want something fresh and fun, not the same recycled game.

The problem is that im getting addiction to nepping

On the VII looking like the Roman number 7, its possible thats its some sort of word play sense even if its the sequel to victory if u count the original games and remakes, VII would actually be the 7th main game in the series.

I'm new to the series. Beat the rebirth series and loved it. Just started VII and still loving it. I didn't have any problem figuring out the order of games. It's a good jrpg, good humor, great waifu's.

My problem with the neptunia games is that the really annoying repetitive dungeons from the first game in order to get to somewhere else, and neptune just constantly saying that noire has no friends was also really irritating too and neptune or another character breaking the fourth wall in the games. I played the first game for the ps3 and finished it but sometimes I seriously couldn't stand the same expression on their faces when they were talking or making a joke either from the first game. But the other neptunia games are also okay too.

My biggest issue is that the entire series isn't on switch. Plus they're not optimized for switch. If crysis and doom can run on the switch just fine then nep needs to do the same. Also, we're probably not getting sisters vs sisters any time soon for switch. For example, we're just now gonna get neir automata on switch in october after how long it's been out? Yeah...maybe never..

As a newcomer to the series (About May of this year), I thought the Re;birth games were a solid way to catch up with the series' story without having the combat system overhauled from game to game, making it easy to burn through, but on repeat playthroughs, does wear a little thin (Looking at you RB2.) The naming conventions could use some work, I can attest to actively googling what game to play first when I first started and thinking that VII was 7 (There were 6 mainline games beforehand, can you blame me?) Hopefully, the upcoming game for Switch will fix some issues, along with whatever the next mainline game will be.

The problem with neptunia games is that they don't come out quick enough. Joking aside, you are on point with some of the points you made. I would like to play all the other ones I wasn't able to play like the rebirth and the ones on vita. Also, I like how they tried to do something different with the 4 goddesses, but........ I'd rather not see another game like it.

The biggest problem with the Neptunia games is when we have to play as someone else instead of Rom and Ram. I'm a genius!

Pretty neat video, and the comment section seems to be taking part in a bunch of intellectual discussions. Nice on that. Even as a pretty big fan, a problem I can say I've noticed is the recycling. Not saying we shouldn't visit familiar places every now and then, but not every dungeon should be the same. (MDVII had that problem pretty bad in between it's sub-games) Also, here's a crazy idea. What if there was a Neptunia game that inserted you as the protagonist (Neptune could even make a joke about this) and you ended up going on a quest meeting the goddesses along the way, as well as other characters. I sure think it'd be pretty cool.

Not sure if this is still an issue in VII's story (haven't played it, along with Tagmension), but a common gripe that I personally have had a really hard time looking away from has been the writing - namely the pacing of dialogue and the choice of exposition. With Re;birth 3 in particular, it felt as though that writers felt the need to point out every single detail of how the scene plays out via exposition, which made some otherwise fun and interesting moments draw to a grinding halt as the characters go on and on about even the most remotely subtle aspects of the scene. Like when Yellow Heart ticked off Iris Heart, and the Neptune then started narrating how ticked off she was, DBZ-style. There's a lot of clutter in the dialogue boxes that I don't think serves any purpose but slowing things down and making jokes feel forced. This doesn't apply equally to the games, though. Superdimension for example, which by far had the most enjoyable writing of any Nep game I've played, hardly showed any trace of this, and I can't recall noting it much when playing Re;Birth 1 either.

As someone who only picked up this series about 6-8 months ago (having played all of the “mainline” games) I’m relatively new to all of the stuff going on with this series, from personal experience I’ll say that as a newcomer, I never felt much issue with the remakes and spinoffs, though that just might be a me thing. To throw my 2 cents into the ring I think a new title with a refined version of VIIRs combat system and a new story would be a great way to renew interest and pull people into the series, it’s always been pretty niche from what I’ve heard, so I’m assuming they’re pretty budgetary constrained titles (which explains the reused dungeons, models, etc, could be wrong on that though). Also there’s that switch title coming out next year which looks really interesting, plus it’s on a console they’ve never touched before, so this could help break the ice, but only time will tell I guess

With all the guides to the games out there, is the number of games really that confusing? I agree that future remakes should be fewer in number though.

Ah this video, was wondering if this would be clickbait and whatnot (doesn't help it's YT suggested), but given that I later saw it's from you and wanting to check your "Where to start" guide, that didn't seem likely. While the HDN Series did get "updated" so that all three of the first main line games use the same system, they still didn't manage to port over some things which I really consider questionable, see the lack of a Cutscene Theatre in Re;1 (and since Re;1 was pretty much a new game I really wonder how they screwed that one up), granted you can get it now, as a additional DLC for like 1-2$, ok I guess but still can make one question how they didn't include this in the first place. Totally agree with the Maker Characters, again, I do think they should've just done licensing better (a general game issue though, wish that they'd get licenses that are more among the lines of "we give you x% of the price per copy" instead of "we buy licensing rights for X years", later not renewing it and taking down games/removing audio and whatnot for example) But come on, even with VII, which was released in 2016, they're still facing the same issues now? One would think that they would've thought about this after doing Re;2 and 3, yet it seems to be ongoing, caring more about just getting such characters in to attract more people? Or simply not caring about what this means for the long term? Speaking of Remakes, Re;1 + seems to be around the corner, already having been released in Japan, but I couldn't really find further info about it, is this Re;1 with the DLC included, a HD Remake or what exactly? I wonder what the idea behind VIIR was, I did think the game was older for one, but for the other was wondering if they wanted to do something VR like so bad and as such did that instead of coming up with a new game. Also find it odd how they changed up some other things like the Action Points, testing new grounds? Or making sure that they can say it's different enough to not just be the same game with VR stuff slapped on top? Speaking of the Names, was wondering if the name issue wasn't a thing in the Japanese Version. The first one is called "Super Dimension" yet mk2 also shares the Super Dimension part despite being in the Hyper Dimension, third one does have the name Ultra Dimension though. Vs Sega Hard Girls has Superdimension in the title, said characters apparently being from that dimension though. Ugh, still a mess... I really wonder why they couldn't avoid some of the title issues in the first place, realize how "U" sounds like it's a Wii U game, name them "Hyperdimensional Neptunia X: Title" X being the Number of the main game. Do agree with your points, I haven't played through Re;1-3 yet so I'm not sure what to think about "evolving" stuff more, but I do think it's kind of needed over time, so I can get behind that. As for recycling stuff, there's really some easy ways to avoid that while still creatively using stuff. Just based on what I've seen on Re;1 so far, Dungeons itself and enemies are often reused, heck I'm sure some dungeon maps are just mirrored or using a different start point, not just the "theme". But think about those Canyon maps, couldn't ones that are closer to Lowee be snowy with maybe a snow effect and a slightly remixed overworld theme, having more of a snowy feeling to it? Make something close to Leanbox have more Plantlife, surely won't be too hard to do like 20 Plant Models and using them. Have Planeptune have bright futuristic Areas and Lastation have stuff be more darker "dystopian" to fit with the theme and make one feel like you're actually there. As for enemies, already giving them a different texture would do so much, but once again it wasn't done... It does look like Re;2 has more fancier areas so that's something to look forward to for me. (Which makes one wonder why they didn't bother putting more into Re;1) Another thing I'd really love if IFI itself did the GOG releases, Retroism did them and after we got Re;1 it was pretty much silence until Re;1 got region locked to no longer be available in Japan (due to missing rights) and Re;2 and 3 appearing a bit after that. No sign of the new DLCs being ported or any furture games though... Oh, almost forgot two things: Localization Honestly, I'd love if stuff simply wasn't localized anymore, minus jokes where it was needed, going for something similar. Not sure how much of a issue this is in later games although I wouldn't be surprised about script differences. DLC Can't this whole microdlc stuff be stopped? Granted it doesn't cost as much but it still feels kind of like you're being ripped off with that much extra to buy...

I do agree on the Company Names being used as characters, when there is a license issue I hated it when Nisa and Gust were not in Neptunia Victory and I missed their presence in the Anime series. I love the dress break function from Neptunia U and would love to see that come back and be incorporated into another spin off or even in the main games. Considering the SONY of America having control over the PlayStation brand, I would heavily advice Idea Factory and Compile Heart to start looking into making games on the Nintendo Switch considering Nintendo of Japan have been holding back the censorship leash on Nintendo of America. Also if both Nintendo and SONY are censoring games on their systems, then Idea Factory and Compile Heart need to release games on STEAM and other online gaming stores online, even look into the Epic Games system so they can release on that online store format.

It feels like a lot of Compile Heart/ Idea Factory’s games have similar issues.

I'm still super on the fence about getting 4GO, especially now since there's a -Walletcrusher Nep Summer Sale- Steam sale going on that includes it. I'd love to pick it up, but hearing about how the game is still riddled with bugs is really off-putting, so I'm not sure what I should really do.

I feel like VII was the best and one of the biggest reasons for that is, compared to the other games, it did have quite a bit of meaningful character development and the best (and most serious) story. Uzume was a great character.

Don't worry, now you can play with your waifu goddesses in Azurlane wwww

I think the crazy names is part of the charm, but it's pretty mindbogeling that the only game I played has been retconned twice, maybe I should have started with MkII. On the other hand I enjoyed the first Neptunia a lot.

i tried getting into it myself instead of watching it but the amount of titles and names with super similar visuals each game I gotten extremely confused which was what.

whats the best of the 3 ps3 games? in case i wanna check one of them out. i got all 3. didnt bother playing em yet...

Its sad that the games have very poor world building. I think it was very cool how in the anime, planeptune had a military fighting off Pesche's invasion. Also Verts air force during 5pbs concert.

Well i guess super nep rpg solves most of this game's problem. 1. This game, although takes place in another universe, has great world building. Actual progressing story, and okay ish plot. Also, quite difficult and threatening villains, (although sometimes when you overgrind, the boss became too easy). Also this game is more serious rather than a happy go lucky game) 2. New gameplay (although confusing, once you get the hang of it, its fun) 3. Obvious title, that this game is a spin off. 4. No reused dungeons and enemies. There are still a few problems though: 1. Still havent fixed the "same model issue" for townspeople. Although yes there are quite alot of models, theyre still using the same models quite alot. 2. THIS GAME LACKS EXPLANATION. LIKE WHAT THE HELL YOURE SUPPOSED TO DO WHEN YOU FIGHT, AND WHEN THE DIALOUGE SAYS: "Let me guide you to *insert place name*" NOPE. YOURE ON YOUR OWN. GOOD LUCK FINDING THAT PLACE.

I think they'll rework the story and make the games story make sense No game is perfect and I'm not blind to flaws a game has I feel they'll fix the problems someday but I don't know how

I like watching videos about Neptunia despite not having played any of the games.

Yeah, I kind of agree with the whole VII-R thing. I'm not even sure I "need" to get it. Btw, don't forget that they kept english voice acting incomplete in EVERY mainline game on the PC. They should really get that sorted out. And, talking about PC, there's talk that the PC port of VII has a bug that basically makes levelling up beyond something like 200 extremely grindy. While not a major issue -- you loose a few Colosseum battles -- there's really no reason to tell your PC customers how little you care about them. As for keeping gameplay "samey" every time, and recycling dungeons and enemies -- while I can see it as an issue, I can also see it as a plus: the entire world feels familiar. And if you think about it, why would the world change in every game? So, "of course", there will be the same dungeons... it's not like we blew them up last time, right? But, of course, this familiarity comes with a price: I can kind of understand why VII doesn't have the portal to Ultradimension, and even though they brought in Nep and Croire, I kind of missed an event to explain why the portal isn't there anymore. With all their "keep the world as we know it", they could spend a little more time on the events that happened between the games :-)

I remember buying Megadimension and I thought my ps4 glitched out when voices weren't coming out like they originally were, nope just not enough incentive to voice the entire game, also there's too much little boring things to do and not enough fun big things to do

I'd like it if the devs took notes from companies like Kuro Games and Mihoyo, those guys are the KINGS of ARPG Gameplay.

Sorry for the off-topic question but I want to ask: Do you still stream? What is your streaming schedule, if so?

I was, once upon a time, tempted to try the series out, but as you said, the naming convention.... I have no idea what I would even start with to be honest, so I kinda just shrugged and passed on it. So many games, so many odd titles, I have no idea what is what.

i'm used to confusing timelines and stuff from fate and monogatari so that's not an issue for me ^^` the neptunia series is still my favorite of all time but i guess it's mainly because of the characters. They're so lovable that people tend to overlook all the flaws

Man I feel about out of the loop. I played ReBirth1-3 but have yet to play VII (I started a playthough but stopped early on cuz I was a bit burned out of the series) I should resume at some point..

Which ending in Re Birth 2 is the canon one that leads into 3 I've heard a couple people say it's the holy sword ending, and others say it's the normal standard ending and I am restricting myself from finishing VIIR and starting 3 until I get the proper ending in Re birth 2 sorry for the weirdly worded question

4 goddesses crashed so many times I couldn’t do it anymore

Nep's storyline is almost as confusing as kingdom hearts, they just need time travel.

"Don't make any more remakes" Aaaaaaaand they just announced Reverse. ANOTHER remake...

Yep, absence of makers is real issue, because they are fun to play as and likeable characters overall (really enjoyed scenes with them in Re;Birth 3 and pivotal role they all had in Re;Birth 2). Because of that i like what IF and CH did with gold third, whose names are abbreviations, and don't require any licensing. Dont know if it is possible for IF and CH to change names (and maybe other minor stuff like some aspects of apperance) of makers so it could be possibe to use them without licensing. I think that godessess are safe from being retconned, but it would suck to see MAGES or 5pb disappear completly ( I can only hope that at least some of makers will return in new mainline title). And I agree with whole video, apart from one point: i don't really mind recycled dungeons and enemies, it gives series sense of continuity and being in the same world. Some variation would not hurt though, and I think that VII is best at this aspect , blending dungeons and enemies from older games with new ones like golden summits or whole zero dimension. All in all, very good video, thumbs up

While I have my fair share of issues with each and every game in the series, I still absolutely adore most of them. I'm just hoping that they find the time and budget to actually improve upon what they have right now, while potentially leaving most of the spin-offs to other dev teams which I believe is being done with Super Neptunia RPG. All in all, I feel like the next main game will either be a big success or outright break the series.

i liked it at 1st with rebirth 1 , because yes they actually just remake the 1st game but they actually changed the ending from the one you said in the video (the godesses get rid of their power and become humans ,meaning that they will age like a normal person) to the rebirths endings where they fight arfoire and you either decide to kill her or save her (and she is the one who changes from a godess to a human) +the CPU candidates being born. But then i got mad on rebirth 2 and onwards because they changed literally nothing on the story , i was expecting a different conquest ending , or a different true ending both in rebirth 2 and 3 but nothing. the idea of the different dimensions was a good one because they could get away with literally everything , like nep from mk2 meeting adult nep from neptunia 1. an anime where the 3 1st games mix togheter console wars , rebirth 2 and nepgear dreaming about the conquest ending , and the dimension mix in victory. they could make the remakes with slighly different plot or ending but they missed this opportunity by being lazy.

These problems don't personally bother me, I find that the fun I have with Nep makes it worth it. *However* I fully get why somebody else would be bothered by it. So good video.

They should've called VIIR Re;birth 4

I actually got into the neptunia series because of Death end re:quest, pretty strange considering the vibe crom the game is a lot darker, but ever since I played VII I have been platting all neptunia games, I love them.

My only issue with the PC ports is that if you don't have a Xbox or Steam controller and play with the keyboard they didn't set up the interface to change the ui to show the keyboard keys. Instead they have a keyboard binding that emulates controller inputs like a emulator, the UI shows the Xbox controller buttons on top of PSP colored buttons and you have to remember what keys on the keyboard are mapped to them. It's hard to learn the controls when it tells PC players on keyboard to press RT and I have to look up what keyboard key is mapped to RT in settings.

I'm new to Neptunia and this channel, what I'll say is I love the characters and references, I'll admit I also like the fan service and I like the battle system better than your typical JRPG, the special moves and powers are cool too but yeah other than Compa and IF most the makers while cool and all feel underdeveloped and just start to give you a party where you have to leave a good portion of characters sitting out of fights at all times and not able to come in when the three you have fall is kinda dumb but that's just my experience with the first game as I'm in chapter 6 there I think

I am confused about which games are now canon, are the rebirth games canon? does V II in the same timeline ass the rebirth games or is VIIR in the same timeline as the rebirth games? also what is up with the story of rebirth 2 and the true ending of rebirth 1 (Is the true ending not canon)?