The Problems With Fury 

This is called plot armour

@@tjb_6203 Yeah, the shells would have bounced back and hit the tiger.

Makes sense..

All the more reason for them to shoot the lead tank

True!! Hahahaha

If that happened I probably would have watched it lmao

Would have saved me an hour or two of my life

The rest of the film after that, I personally felt, was pretty weak. Would have probably saved the film's overall level of both entertainment and competency for me, at the very least.

He could've actually survived since he was half out of the commander's hatch I've seen some clips of commanders getting blown out of the turret by an ammo rack explosions and make it out alive (probably with most bones fractured tho)

True. The bad directing comes in because there are ways Pitt's tank may not become the lead. He could have a slight mechanical trouble and the second tank takes over. He could order another tank to lead since they might run into enemy infantry and the 75mm had better anti infantry effect than the 76mm. As pointed out, his column could have some accompanying assets like light tanks as scouts ahead of the column. Etc.

gotta scare em befpre shooting them Sith logic after all

i think he was trying to not let the man give their position away although that wouldnt make much sense as they would have still fired a shot that would give away their position

So he didn't give the position away.

@@crimsonlanceman7882 A real sniper always target valuable unit: machines gunners, high officer, sniper and others. But a civilian or regular of soldier, it's not waste of ammo but opportunity.

@@nadaesfacil Yeah....by shooting him....

A close relative of mine liberated a town by himself and never saw one outside Germany. He was in the Canadian army. You may have heard about him. Is name was Léo Major.

@@xminusone1yeah. itd be hard to forget that guy. Crazy dude

Just your average Van Doo haha

Most Tigers weren t destroyed. They ran out of fuel or ammo and were left abandoned. And what do we do when our nation is low on oil and (rocket) fuel? YASS we built a fqn moving trench with an howitzer that may possibly be a menace to god himself. I m talking about the Sturmtiger here. Also first "fighter jet"... Did i just mention rocket fuel shortage? too much too late Source: WIkipedia article Tiger I Apologies for my bad english. It s not my first language.

g f y s you are bull of shiet not a grandson tanker

Lol

Explains

Good one

It had a different story line?

If only france had that

>Pershing then comes out to the smoke >Also there are American soldiers with Bazookas >Tiger crew panics cause their transmission breaks >Tiger crew are dead

as a minor detail tiger takes out the tank in the back first and then the other 3 (because a tank platoon is supposed to have 5 tanks not just 4)

*JUG INTENSIFIES*

@@johnilarde8440 british and americans tank veterans explains this perfectly(i dont remember the exact numbers from the quotes so i just make up ish the numbers but the difference in range is somewhat accurate %wise) British panser commander: "A tiger could hit and penetrate our shermans at 1400 yards from the front, a sherman would have to get withing 600 yards to make the shot accuratly, also they would have to take the tiger on the flanks, or preferably the back. To take out a tiger you would hear on the comms"my god they got a fucking tiger" and within 15 min a plane comes shooting AT rockets

@@onetwothreefour3957 the other one was destroyed with Panzerfaust

Nah they were just lousy shots. ....

Army field manuals state not to fire on Brad Pitt

Brad Pitt looks like he came out of a Nazi propaganda poster it's not surprising

Lol. Truu

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Never noticed that but yeah that's really inconsistent. Really he should have retreated and informed the others of the threat. Maybe they would have gotten more tanks, infantry, artillery or air support?

@jonathanmiller5232 exactly. It'd be much better and save more lives by doing so then killing some while letting the information die with the only people who know about the position of many enemies. It's selfish before anything else.

Brad Pitt characters is all about the 'looking strong and protective' type as he is the commander, as the start when they just lost their assistant driver you see him keep a poker face, only to walk between two building afterwards and breakdown into a nervous wreck. When the tank platoon is tasked with holding the crossroads, and that they are told that if the germans go through the entire battalion is fucked because he either saves his men, ditch the tank, but then what ? They don't have any tanks left and the germans would be hitting the supply hub and make the situation living hell. But yeah, it felt a bit weird but I didn't thought much of it, realistic reaction given the situation, either fight or flight and they fought

​@@sylvananas7923 There is really no urgency on fighting 1 SS battalion. The war is already won for the Allies in 1945 so there is no need to stand their ground and die.

@@imlivingunderyourbed7845 I mean yeah on the grand scale of things it does not matter, but on the whole small and personal plan well people don't just think that the war is over and they can just leave

they could have been not very well trained, as later in the war, as you probably know, there was a large shortage of soldiers.

@@dsjaks6983 don't try to defend it. There's nothing to defend.

why not lol

@no vids on dis channel ok germany fanboy

@no vids on dis channel damn bro why so mad

no, he was just perplexed at Brad Pitt's good looks...

Good points both of you, but I think that the Gods called "writers" probably weakened the loaders ability to do his job

Not just the loader. The driver seemed to have suffered from a stroke as well. Why did the Tiger suddenly stop after all the other tanks were destroyed? Why didnt it keep reversing when it engaged Fury? They knew the sherman tank was tryng to get around them. They knew the backside is the weak spot. All the driver had to do was keep reversing so it would take the sherman more time to get around them, meaning more time to destroy them.

@@fredrikengstrom2107 I never thought about that but that’s totally true, thanks for pointing that out!

That would be the most unfortunate thing to happen in a tank battle lol

No the simple is They want to count how many enemies are there , that wouldnt good to shoot if there were Huge convoy

@@KLG-1.0 what?

@@RetroRob420 Bro ur late but i mean , always shoot the last one first, they will count how many ally tanks are there before shooting make sure not lauch an small attack into a big parade

@KLG why not just wait for them to expose themselves so you know what you're dealing with first (if possible) and then still shoot the front tank to potentially stop/delay the column from moving forward?

@@RetroRob420 not possible cuz if the tiger shoot first , the rest of the back will spot and Snipe the tiger

Yes although not the most accurate, it is a very good movie

​@youtubeuser9090 thats the thing, it doesn't need to be extremely accurate. It's a Hollywood movie, if it's entertaining, if it's moving, it did it's job

It's a very solid move depicting the dirt, mud and total war of final weeks of WW2. But it's being ripped to shreds by internet generals and World of Tanks field marshals for several "they should have done that instead of that".

@@jackiemortes Yea I don’t think those people realize how “Movies” work lol even wartime movies that are supposed to be somewhat accurate can be 25-30% accurate and still tell a great story. The Tiger vs Sherman tank debates are hilarious to me. All I see is some great acting from a STACKED cast and it fills me with emotions that I would have never felt before. That’s what a Movie is supposed to do. Otherwise it’s just a documentary. 💪🫡

@@-BUGZ- No, they don't. They sit with their doctrine instructions and tactical manuals and think they're smart while pointing out what characters should or shouldn't have made. And forget about the simplest possibility of a human mistake. We could easily apply the same kind of "criticism" to Band of Brothers or even Saving Private Ryan. The discussions around Fury are outright ridiculous. No war movie is 100% historically or tactically accurate. And ripping it to shreds for those lacking 10-20% is idiotic.

It's true lol

As a war thunder player that is very triggering.

f u

@@Th3Bishop3 me with my Jumbo *pain*

@@Th3Bishop3 killing tigers is so easy though

Leave one marksman to keep the crew buttoned up- have his pal with the panzerfaust knock the damn tank out- end of problem. Move on.

Also I can't believe one of those soldiers missed the whole tank with his panzerfaust! And he was like 3 meters away!!

Agreed, I was expecting the SS battalion engagement to be one of the main problems with this movie!

How did the child soldiers with Panzerfausts manage to kill an entire FULLY OPERATIONAL Sherman tank in the start of this movie, but the fucking paramilitary SS couldn't get a crippled one down.

In reality there was only one tanker on top of a burnt TD with 50.cal that killed ~same amount of SS and survived. And it was in winter. So no, this scene is not that BS as you might think.

I think it was tracer rounds

You guys got recommended this also lmao

@@ioankibble8866 i think he meant the tracers in this particular movie is similar to the lasers in star wars, in other words, they're thick

@@goose8447 a lot of star wars stuff is based on old ww2 tech. the guns, the lasers, the turrets, the cannons, even the battles are like old ww2 dogfights with cannons and tracers firing everywhere.

NATO forces use Red trace and Soviet forces use Green trace and is usually 1:5ratio so between each trace is 4 normal round's so you can count your usage and hence why Star wars the empire used Red and the rebels used green also the first round fired in the forest Gump ambush is a green trace. Fun facts an officer or commander of an ambush might say in orders to watch his fall of shot as an initiation of the ambush

The Tiger didnt have to ,Its 88 out ranged the Shemans.

You are correct, German Tank Commanders did not do anything with out orders, This Tiger would of probably radioed in, with intel, and would of waited for orders, I doubt he would of been ordered to engage this lone Tanks, Im sure the Germans would of just let them pass, and then dispatch Anti tank Guns to the area, or went after the Shermans with Infantry, and probably Armored Cars . They would not want to Risk a Tiger like this.

The Tiger would be in a inclosed space since they charged so they had to proceed foward, and they didnt see that longer tank barrel sherman. Since they blew smoke into his face until they met close up.

unless you were Michel Whitman,,lol @@brooksbrown580

Especially when two of them have 76mm guns

Yeah, he would have been dog food.

and they took a minute to detonate

its brad pitt his face is always pretty

😂

@@Snipurss Actually some grenades did have a long f hug se on them that had a fuse of almost 15 seconds, but yes he would definitely be mush

@@vanlocphan3051 The Allied doctrine is to always look for a 5-1 ratio as it greatly reduces the loss rate of allied tanks, not that it needed the 5 tanks. A single Tiger will always be outmanoeuvred by 5 Shermans.

@@vanlocphan3051 The Firefly was designed to kill Tigers. Compared to the vanilla Sherman, it was a tank destroyer rather than a tank. As there were comparatively so few Tigers left, that was why they didn't make so many.

@@PassportToPimlico It's also basic military strategy. Sun Tzu wrote of attacking the enemy when outnumbering them 5-1.

Your English is so bad bro...

Kek

You’d have to note that awards and promotions were being handed out like bread in a mess hall.

Hitler also had an Iron Cross in WW1 but he was just a mailman. The germans did that to give morale and motivation

Ottoman Comrade not a mail man, a runner, which could mean crossing firezones or through enemy lines carrying important intel

@@okano.638 Hitler fought from basically the very beginning of the war to the very end. Hitler's regiment entered the battle of "Ypres Massacre of the Innocents" with 3,600 men and at its end mustered 611. By December Hitler's own company of 250 was reduced to 42. He was at many great battles; the Somme, at Passchendale, etc. When he was wounded in 1916 he begged not to be removed from combat, and later begged to be sent back to the front as he could not stand being in a hospital in munich while he had comrades at the front. He was later gassed by the British which left him temporarly blind and mute. A lot can be said about the man, but he certainly showed a lot of courage during WW1.

The producers could have just overlooked it when they approved the costume. Also Jonny was just stating that any tanker, regardless of experience level, would have used the tactics he described.

A browning heavy machine gun has a cyclic rate of 450 rounds per minute, or 7.5 rounds a second. if tracers are loaded every fifth round you're gonna see one spaced less than a second apart...........

It was a lot of tracers, but its one movie trope I don't mind. It does help with visual storytelling and it looks cool, and at least tracers are a real thing.

I spent 3 years in combat including in an armored battalion. What people forget…. Or don’t know, is that leadership often have weapons with just tracers to help direct fire from there units. Example “Stalwart 1-3 this is Stalwart 1-4 concentrate fire at the third floor window.” “1-4 this is 1-3 which window?” “1-3 watch my tracers”

Then you’ve never seen an Infantry battalion night exercise simulating Final Protective Fires with all tracers (2d Infantry Division, Korea, 1975). Fireworks are tame by comparison.

Yeah t-34 is unrealistic asf but they got that very well the whole crew was getting fucked over by the sound and vibration

doomguy .23 from mars I think it’s like the challenges of filming in a small apartment. It has to be unrealistic just to get the camera gear/lighting in there. Basically stylistic decisions.

T-34 was pretty good on the tank combat. Unrealistic in places, with plot armour and propaganda being apparent, but definitely entertaining.

Look at this video of an ATGM hitting a Turkish Altay from inside the tank. Here’s the link: www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/t5a8ub/turkish_tank_getting_hit_by_atgm_recorded_from/?

And the shrapnel

While some felt that way, no German appeared to have said that word for word.

i think that's more appropriate for soviet tanks... they literally have more tanks that we have ammunition.

I don’t get it 😅

It summarizes the war really. One big reason why Germany lost was because the USSR and US could out produce them. Lots of other factors also contributed. It was a fact the Japanese commanders were aware of two. Yamamoto knew that if the US couldn't be knocked out quickly, their massive industrial base would out produce anything the Japanese could do. Hard to defeat an enemy if every time you blow up a tank, two more were ready to take their place.

@@jrtapz138 only 1,300 Tiger tanks were built compared to 40,000 Sherman tanks during WW2

Makes sense

The japanese navy used shells that had different color explosions so they could differentiate which ship hit what as well

@@ethanstaaf404 Really? Damn thats a cool fact

So the Germans where like: we are a bit like the galactic empire so let’s use green And the alides where like: so you use green cuz ur the bad guy the we use red cuz where good guy And that was the only thing they agreed in during the war

@@daanbos5918 Bruh, the US and Germany agreed on a LOT of things during the war, this idea that that there was this huge anymosity between the nations, and that US soldiers believed they were fighting some super villain, is nothing but post war propaganda

Yeah, the Sherman that was commanded by Peterson was an M4A1(76)W, named 'Old Phyliss'. The other two Shermans in the platoon were an M4A2 and an M4A4 with standard 75mm guns. Fury is also presented in the film as an M4A3E8 but she's an M4A2E8 in real life.

That's because the Pz.IV had a similar shape and its long 75mm gun really resembled the Tiger from a distance.

Or just bomb from above or artillery since it’s stationary

@@Mozzie7920 1.the Luftwaffe kind of didn’t exist in 1945. For a more in depth reading, research Operation Bodenplatte. 2. Artillery would have been hard to come by due to lack of ammunition. Not defending the shitty scene, just giving my two cents.

@@mrthompson3848 The really most stupid thing is The Panzervernichtungstrupp that comes in later got badges for destroying tanks so they are battle hardened in destroying tanks and why the fuck do they miss within a 10m range ??

@@foxtrotsierraproductions8626 an advanced form of protection called “plot armour”

Not attacking problems with the appropriate weapon systems is something that exists to annoy me in apparently every medium no matter the country. The final scene was pretty egregious though, surely someone had a better idea for the finale?

No, every five rounds are tracer here.

When your fire rate is about 600rpm, and every 5th round is a tracer, were looking at 2 tracers per second. I see no problem here

It was actually pretty accurate, but God the effects looked awful, CGI tracers looked like bootleg Star Wars lazors

@@juancosta7162 I disagree, I thought they were pretty much on point with my experience. They might have been a bit too bright but other than that they looked fine

My old man was on assault landing craft and loaded (against the Geneva convention ) in his Lewis gun one in three tracer. Because he said in a bobbing landing craft or moving vehicle aiming was pointless but one in three gave you the chance to hose onto the target.

Matsimus what you doing here

Oh god its him

@State of Wyoming s ecks

Oh god it's another British bloke yay

LMAO xD

The Germans at this point in the war were simply running out of fuel and production … As they like to say Weapons win battles, logistics win wars

Yes Indeed, Fuel was the biggest problem they had, and the crews were not properly trained to repair stalled or broken down tanks, Plus when the Tanks ran out of Ammo, the crews many times would abandon them, moving back to German lines for refit with fuel and ammo exposed the Tanks to U.S. Aircraft, British Typhoons were all over the place looking for German Tanks as were P-51s

And in keeping with tradition those same values of unreliability have been built into every German car made since :)

German Panzer Units are never alone. If there even only 1 Tank there are always other troops.

@@derinfomann4581 yes that's my point and why it was weird to see a single Tiger all by itself

@@3RAN7ON Who knows why, it might've gotten seperated from its unit so it decided to hide and set up an ambush for anybody comming through

that is not strange at all. There are numerous reports of lone tanks and tank destroyers hiding throughout the ned stages of the war. Or very small units of just 3-4.

It happened tho. Check out Panther vs Pershing duel at Cologne. It was a lone Panther without any support.

On a completely on a completely unrelated note in Call of Duty World War II in the mission Collateral Damage in the first part where you actually take control of an M4 Sherman it's actually a sherman jumbo considering how many feet can take from a tiger II and also it would take more than just us or two well-placed shots in the roof destroy a tiger to it was a normal M4 Sherman and also considering the fact that they managed to take that out a tiger and a pan that was coming for them is insane because normally the average American soldier would have been already down if it was an M28 person that they had build have higher chance of survival and we can also see in the campaign the resolution man is able to take down a little opander and disable a tiger you might be saying that will where do we see this well in the second mission of the game if you don't run to your crew and you stick by Perez discount you can actually see the aiming at a Panzer tank and firing herself destroying it completely but it looks like you changed it from a firefly to a jumbo for the additional armour and side skirt and we also get to see that this might have been president old time because I'm like the other ones like one actually has chuck Martin engraved on it and also that can and also when we get to the cathedral we can see a panda time and we can penetrate roots and my fairly quickly even at aiming at the front but he's missing how does he survive through the tiger I mean I know that he never took any damage from the pound Asterix or anything but from a realistic perspective unless McDonnell never knew what he was doing all the tank Commander just wasn't knowing what you're doing then half of the time they will literally hitting buildings on this was the Swift in this of the Sherman jumbo and also when we finally due to the Calcot tiger with don't access seems like it's plugged in a fuse of blaze like the Panzer does instead will take it out it blows up from the side and the tank Commander comes out of the time it's a pretty good detail but when you take it from a realistic perspective they're going to survive because of the building there for you can lose track of the enemy really well but then there's a thing the driver was continuously moving meaning he couldn't hear the engine of the fisherman that's one thing that you have to take in war you might you never hear the enemy coming if your engine is only so that's why sometimes the tiger tank and the Stops stops to look to scout for enemies and the tigers biggest fear was actually smoke actually I've made that doesn't smoke but it was they said the British tank investors with more capable of destroying a tiger tank in only two rocket

Dude! at least put a comma, period, or somethin' in your sentences to make it easier to read. I couldn't follow up while reading it.

@@godzilla5512 Use commas and punctuation. It is very hard to read like this.

@@michimatsch5862 i had no time to breath

@WITE FOX LOL. OK.

Also sadly once the transmission or engine give out on 131 it'll be static for eternity.

Cool facts there John. That just makes me wonder; If the Tank Museum was SO worried about their Tiger getting damaged during filming, why didn’t the production crew either make a replica of a Tiger to actually destroy or use different “tank killing” tank? That way they could’ve done a lot more action with the Tiger and have it go up in real flames.

its him because in german der Tiger not Die Tiger so hope that helpes

@@jacksprofessionalproductio9403 I dunno about you but I'd feel much cooler if I knew what I'm looking at is 100% authentic and not a copy for shows. Sure it won't look as spectacular, or it will, but at a higher cost, but... Damn, it's a fucking real Tiger, how cool is that!? You've got the real thing right there, filmed in your movie! It's like when you see a cool and unique car on the road and just take a pic of it. Yeah it's just a car, but damn, look at it! I once saw a legit Delorean parked near home and I inmediately pulled out my phone to take a few shots at it, even got to see it driving around a couple of days later, so damn cool! What I'm trying to say is that it's not about looks, a replica could definitely get you better shots since you don't have to worry about breaking it. ...But the emotion, the feelings behind it, the scene and the props you used, for those who know, make these kind of things much more special, it's like doing something with your heart, the average person won't care, but those who know about it will care and appreciate it

@KommanderKc Or just y'know, reverse-engineer if needed. I highly doubt so, since they probably already know what parts are in the Tiger, they just need a way to be able to replace them short of starting up a new production line just for 131.

I believe it has a 75mm M3 gun, it's basically just a 75mm with a longer barrel and slightly better penetration rate

finally someone notices

@@thegrimrealityofficialThe 75mm M3 (40 calibre) was standard on the m4 medium tank when it first entered service in 1942. You may be confusing it with the 75mm M2 gun mounted on the M3 medium which was only 31 calibres in length. Many M4 Mediums with the early 76mm M1 gun were not fitted with a muzzle brake.

@@freddieclark I think I meant the M7, I dunno

@@thegrimrealityofficial Fury was actually an M4A2E8 although in the movie it is supposed to be an M4A3E8, and has the M1A1C 76mm gun with muzzle brake. The next tank is an M1A1 76(W) as it clearly has the T23 turret and the M1A1gun (or an M1A1C gun without a muzzle brake). the next two tanks are M4(75) Shermans as they have the narrow M34 Gun mantlet.

He is attempting a Banzai charge by taking rifles to enemies. But I can't understand the need of camping on a roof with a shotgun. Who cares, its just a video game. Lol

@@naveennidhurshan6939 i guess his unconventional approach to war is atleast unpredictable, nobody is expecting a bayonet charge in 2020,😋. Note to self, never let him hold the RPG.

Let me guess, 725 with slugs?

@@inkwellflood8276 bayonet charges are the best tactic and will always be.

Really

oof yeah

I do play war thunder and one of the steriotypes is German players in that br 5.0-6.7 are brain dead

Taking out the trailing guy was Sgt. York's flock of geese tactic. He killed at least 20 Germans and took 132 prisoner by himself, so I guess you have to be country to pull it off.

what large explosion behind me with Shockwave? never heard of it

As a War Thunder player I agree with this. I also fire at the last tank so the others don't see me.

Panzerfaust able to penetrate 200mm armour with no problem..There were minimum 3 in that SS unit..ok I got the "Saving private Ryan" Sherman version feeling too,but seriously...

Yeah the movie went full retard at the end there. They would have had that tank knocked out without breaking a sweat. I guess they never realized flanking was an option?

@@ikasando they literally flanked it, did you watch the movie? its the first thing they did lmao

There are tiger in Kursk fighting against battalion of Soviet army and survive

@@bondrewdthelordofdawn3744 Hi! Soviets didn't have good anti-tank infantry weapons like panzerfayst,not against Tiger anyway..

And that’s why the better tank is the one that actually works

@@campbell9825 Not all tank made from germany broken

​@@campbell9825 German weapons were vastly superior to American weapons, were do you think the US got their rocket and weapons advancement from, they took German scientists and engineers after war, even today the Leopold tank is the best in the world.

@@SergyMilitaryRankings maybe so but history is written by the victor. The Sherman might not have been superior to many German tanks based on raw firepower, armor, and mobility, but it won because logistics, numbers, and reliability are just as important in a war.

@@campbell9825 well tbf regardless of quality of the Sherman, Germany wasn't up to much, by the time of the allied invasion, Nazi Germany lost majority of its forces and was on the way to defeat in the east.

Freedom!

There's a black guy cracking up in the movie theater he was sitting near us and at this scene oh, he started laughing even more and said "haha yo and that's all of them that's left.?" I think he was amused that the heroes in the movie had killed hundreds of German soldiers already, in the most unrealistic way

Not o mention they probably should've hid in the woods and they all would've survived

I mean the SS were fucking insane I really wouldn't put it passed them.

@ALSO-RAN ! Lol wut? The SS troops in the film are portrayed as being the best of the best, not remotely unenthusiastic boys and old men.

Yeah, there were a lot of moments where I thought it was kinda a waste of ammo, not a good idea to do all that in reality.

@@queenphoenix1133 MG42 has a fire rate of over 1200 R/M, and even with 1 tracer per 5 bullets, it s about 5 tracer rounds per second and that s why there is so much color

@@halilsimionca231 That's good info to know, thank you. I knew it was fast, jus didn't know it was that fast.

It blew my mind when I learned that WW2 fighter planes typically only had 30 seconds of ammunition loaded

@@halilsimionca231 I think that the German tanks used the lesser known MG34 because of one simple feature: to change the barrel you have to rotate it upwards instead of opening it from the side. The fire rate was lower but the barrel changing process was faster. If the MG42 was used instead, the gunner had to constantly pull the gun out of the MG port to change the barrel.

It gave a realistic enough view of tank combat for the average viewer to enjoy, Id say its a good movie that was "realistic enough"

@@Grandtank1999 I would disagree.

@@TheTrueNorth11 ok

@@Grandtank1999 Were it realistic enough, fury would have been a toaster in the tiger ambush

@@Frille512 “realistic enough” doesn’t mean “fully realistic”

True but in that case they only needed to move forward a couple meters

Fair point to be honest. But irl the Tiger most likely would retreat back to keep distance so when the shermans broke the smoke he would still be at distance and continue to pick them off. Regardless are thought makes sense and probably what the director was thinking too

@@loganwallace101 And then it would be a sitting duck

Well that sucks, we need to ban that kind of player i hate them

That's the trouble with social media. Someone probably made a comment on Twitter or Fb along the lines of 'Gunter's crew are pussies, whenever they'res a firefight he hides in the bushes. I've also noticed they wash the tank a lot and have soft cushions inside if you get my meaning...'

On war thunder, this kid was destroyed first cause he charged in alone yet he complained how bad of a team we were for not supporting him Kowalski analysis

brehh

Brad Wolf exactly why I don’t play WT anymore

Shut up George you shouldn't even have a RU-vid account you died 200 years ago

@@marthaindahouse1010 Don't be mean with George D:

Ok

Steve harvyeet I saw you under another Vid.

Dear @@marthaindahouse1010 *Fight me*

I wonder why the left those out? Probably because they didn't want to make a short film. 😅

AT guns were deadly in combat: easier to hide, faster spotting and cycle times, and usually the next higher caliber. Con: not as protected or mobile

@@admiraltroll5255 Even most allied tanks were killed by infanterie and not by tanks. A standing, hidden AT gun is much more accurate than a moving tank. In this scenario, every shot would have hit.

In theory, yes, but that scene is at least somewhat plausible, since by that late in the war, the guns might be manned by under-trained or hastily-trained recruits, and not experienced crews. The part of that scene which makes no sense to me is the placement of the MG42 at the forward outpost right in the open. Hey, what can you expect? It's Hollywood not military history experts writing these scenes...

@@GeorgiaBoy1961 how do you saw that

God Tigerphobia...... don’t blame him

I guess it was always a downhill battle until the Tigers showed up

Was he Cree still very scared in the fireflies? Or were their confidence boosted

Was it the first or second battle of El Alamein, because the second one was really brutal

so your grandfather fought for the rothchilds...yeppie

and there we have it folks thats it for today

@@norwish6940 BEST COMMENT OF ALL!!!! you da man!

But it is a great movie just not super accurate

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"We are afraid the engine will die" im fcking dying lol the tiger cant even make it through the scene without breaking down

@@theburningtankman9411 the engine is 80 years old and the only still working one around the world. To repair it If it would break Down would Cost a Fortune because the parts are not available. I dont understand what is so funny about that?

Elendir cuz fury isnt

@ALSO-RAN ! That'd be the Maybach HL230. There's still a few kicking about, think they're about 100K+. Be more expensive to make one new from scratch.

Carving a billet is always more expensive than a casting per individual unit. It'd already be done if it were that easy.

@Enzo Fischer They were scared shitless seeing a Tiger Tank for the 1st time. Tunnel vision on the Tiger if you will. Yeah even a panzer IV showing up on their flank would have proved fatal fo Fury...Had the Tiger had back up.

Tigers usually operated in a squad of a few more tigers and this one even if we say was lost he could have still taken out all 4 charging Sherman without moving.

Most American tankers whenever that has a shot fired at them and they don’t know where or what it is from previous intel they will most likely assume it’s a Tiger due to superstition most of the time and mostly it would be panzer IVs but the Panzer IV Sort of looks like a Tiger if you look at its sides iris making a large looking turret that would resemble the Tiger so it’s natural to assume in the heat of battle that it is one

ULTIMATE GAMER GAMER Eh...hitting moving tanks is not easy. Chances of taking out 4 before having to displace are probably almost non existent

@@23AVFP Take out the first or that with the long gun rest easypeasy, at least in Tiger with an experienced crew, and Tigers were not given to rookies.

Only 1/4 was good enough to penetrate from the front. In a scenario where the lead 76mm is taken out first, what do the other 3 tanks do if shots bounce off from the front and get picked off one by one. I believe it was a desperate tactic in the event Brad Pitt's tank was taken out first(or technically second) during the charge, the other two might have made it instead of it being hopeless.

IRL, the 75 mm gun shermans would’ve done the flanking while the 76 mm one engaged from the front. That way the tiger’s attention would’ve been split and regardless which one he focused on, at least 1 or 2 shermans would’ve gotten in a killshot.

not really. it was us army doctrine at the time for Sherman's, if facing a better armored vehicle, to charge and try to flank it. casualties we're guaranteed but the exchange rate of one mass produced Sherman for a panther or tiger was considered acceptable by the army

The tactic isn’t ‘charge blindly at enemy while guns go blazing’. US doctrine explicitly states that tanks should use the tank vs tank version of ‘fire and maneuver’. Part of the tanks (preferably the ones with the bigger guns) engage the tank from the front where at best, their heavy guns could knock it-out and at worse, they could still provide a distraction. The other group does the flanking and hits them from the rear. Non of that is present in this engagement.

Yeah not from that range. Just because a weapon has that capability doesn't mean it happens every single time. A shot at 400 + yards at a target the size of a cutting board (the flat parts of the front armor - also the thickest) isn't a reliable way to ensure effective engagement.

Imagine if it wasn't a hollywood film.

@@dude_stop_alright435 It would end pretty soon, because either the Tiger had no business there, or it would just take out Fury first.

People need to stop talk trash about it bc of realism, instead talk about the story instead, which isn’t great but still alright

@@_aragornyesyes_7171 If people know a little about WW2 tank warfare, they will talk shit about it, and that's how it should be, otherwise we would only get movies like this, built on stereotypes / biases. It's not a bad movie, but if you wanna make a war movie, you have to pay attention to accuracy, because a really big part of the audiacity will get triggered, if you don't do so.

Random guy in Gasmask Well Fury isnt trying to be accurate it never said anything about being based or inspired by a true story its a film about telling the horros of war.

At least it makes more sense than a Panther charging given that its transmission was significantly even worse.

"Herr Commandant! Our transmission is broken!" "Oh fucking typical, alright Hanz give me your shirt I'm tired of this shit."

Charges at something like 15kph

Henry Ford hooked the Germans up.

@Mr. Brown Bear You joke. But the truth seems to be that while filming Fury, Tiger 131s transmission broke and it was only able to move straight forward or back. Thats why it doesnt turn in any of the shots.

Not really.

I agree, would be interesting to see that

I mean that movie already exists, it's a Russian movie called White Tiger.

Watched it yesterday. Weird film.

The movie : White Tiger did it so much better (it's silent and looks different because it's based on a Porsche Tiger).

Usually every 5th round on a belt is a tracer.

They look pretty cool, you gotta admit.

Stiergesicht brigade They look pretty fake, tracers don't light at the muzzle

pew pew lasers!

M. Redleg : In Fury, it looks like every other round is a blaster laser.

Sean Coyne no lol it moved feom cover because it was blinded by smoke

Sean Coyne not unrealistic at all the tiger was clearly spottef and out numbered and on top of that had smoke blinding his view his only choices werw stay put let them get right up on u in which they can kill u easily or pull out from the smoke and see whats going on and giving u the chance to fire at the enemy. No tank commander is sitting and hiding once they been spotted making a sitting duck expecially if they done threw smoke in your face telling u hey we see u and were coming for u

I was mainly talking about the way the script was written, so as to see a working Tiger on the move. In real life, all sorts of scenarios could have played out and indeed did, especially early after D-Day, when narrow hedge lined roads would have severely impeded the Tigers' main advantage... the ability to take out allied tanks at very long ranges. Similar restrictions (along with allied air supremacy) meant that all forms of German armour were hampered, including the more numerous (and stealthy) Stugs and other tank destroying armour.

How about retreating? He knew there were 3 shermans and he was blinded. Ideal thing was to retreat and shoot the firefly as it comes out of the smoke or at either side of it.

Raiden i thought that exact same thing retreat and ambush u was already out nunbered

This is the Documentary and Info this Movie was based upon : ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-oQ19oZRZqfc.html

Being an experienced Tank Crewman, you think it would’ve been possible for one of the Sherman’s to launch a round into the wheels/tracks of the Tiger & disable it? Thanks in advance for you opinion. Good Day to You!

@@tierone4761 That's called a "mobility kill" and it's basically what the land mine did to Fury at the road junction. What you end up with is a pissed off crew with a fully functional weapon system. We were always trained to keep pumping rounds into a mobility kill. The idea that a mobility kill is still lethal is demonstrated in Fury's final battle.

The rediculous thing is they actually did well against an entire battalion of infantry with a shit ton of anti tank weapons shown. In reality the germans could of sent a squad to finish Fury off. They probably could have done it with a fire team.

@@tierone4761 Yep, the Tank Treads are Kept together by Connectors on both sides of the Track. Big pain in the Ass when you throw a Track too. But if this happens in a Combat Zone, You're basically a Sitting Duck. Plus anytime the Crew has to be on the Ground or on the Tank Servicing it, they are vulnerable. But yea, a Main Gun Round right in the Track would do it. But they can still Fight. just really comes down to how experienced the Crew is, an Experienced Gunner and Loader are a Deadly Combo.

Nah! Stalinium in World of Tanks is even tougher.

@@Gyallarhorn1 no war thunder stalinium bias

No look at red tails, this guy casually took 6 *30mm MK 108* rounds to the chest and lived for like 10 min instead of being liquidified, keep in mind each can rip the wing off of a spitfire

@@humzaakhtar9208 poor guy can't reunite with his girl

Nah Cameraman armor better It always turn into a ghostshell

Whoever heard of Teutoberg anyway?

A major flaw in the movie since german troops were way better than just rushing towards a broken tank at once. They would send 2 or 3 troops to investigate a tank if its broken down or anything like that, a group for buildings depending on size.

They were marching in a column and they thought it was knocked out and no one thought they were going to find anything

@@luigimrlgaming9484 No one is acting so carelessly in war , not after 6 years, just in a bad movie .

Don’t forget that SS units aren’t a part of the Wehrmacht, but a political arm of the Nazi party, especially if an SS unit starts drawing from volksturm it could very well be that sniper was the only one with military experience

@MajcoI don't care about producers. The writer and director made also awful U-571. And he is to blame.

Why when the Panzerfaust penetrated the tank it killed only one guy and no killing more crew please tell me

@@hristomarinov8358 Because of Hollywood bullshit ;)

And some idiotic Americans say “VeTErAns SAiD iT WAs ReALisTiC” VETERANS WERENT EVEN ALIVE WHEN THIS MOVIE WAS MADE

@@hristomarinov8358 Most of the tank ammo had already been depleted. Generally speaking anti armor weapons take advantage of the volatility of stowed munitions to help destroy their target. Nearly all of Fury's ammo reserves were gone at that point.

高念宗 it was common once the Tiger was introduced into combat for allied crews to mistake PzIVs for Tiger's...the very embodiment of a Sherman or T-34 crews worst nightmare.

And Panther mediums being mistaken for KT? As far as Allied Armor engaged, Panthers were more common, but the KT KwK43 fame, and similar Hull shape made lots of soldiers think any Panther they saw to be a KT... Not to dismiss the Long 75mm the Panthers had, buuut....

To be fair to Allied tankers, a Panzer IV with the skirts on the turret could kinda look Tiger-like, especially if all you're getting is quick glimpses of it while moving or shooting. And the KwK 40 on a late Panzer IV could ruin a perfectly good day for a Sherman, T-34, or Cromwell crew. Unless said Allied tankers get a good shot off first. Then they might be thinking, "Huh. I didn't think a Tiger would go boom quite that easily."

Darryl Aoki maybe the Germans new how feared tigers were and designed panzer 4s to look like tigers.

That wouldn't be a good thing, especially in Normandy. "Yeah! They're running from us! They think we're a Tiger." "Er, Herr Leutnant, I think I see a couple specks on the horizon." "Oh... um, pass me my binoculars. *a few seconds pass* "Oh, crap. Everyone out of the tank!" "Say, do you hear a whistling noise?" *large explosion* "Well, crap."

That and at the time, they didnt really know how to deal with it other then the fact that the 76mm's are the only viable destroyer option.

They knew it's a Tiger bit couldn't even see it.

@@florinelenaradamilea They did see it.

@@Th3Bishop3 they saw an armoured vehicle, they assumed it's a tiger?!? because of the hit, from that distance and taken by surprise it's hard to tell right off what tank it is.

@@florinelenaradamilea In the clip itself it literally shows them looking at it through binos.

in wot a mathilda could pen a tiger in front lmao

german bias thank god isnt as bad as it used to be. But russian bias is very much real. and dont even go near the british tank tree are you mad?

lol

But in wot the tiger was more marvsble

McThiccoMan also this is unreal... No arty shell hitting every 10 seconds

Patatasuper the 332 nd Fighter Group, was still using P-40 Warhawk fighter in early 1944, So was the 99 th, it wasn’t un the summer of 44 when after they used both P 39 Airacorbras, and P 47 Thunderbolts, did they finally get the P 51 Mustang. The only flaw I seen was that the first Mustangs then used were the B and C models. Only a handful of them are still available and flying.

@@johnsouto5221 plane inaccuracies come up in Red Tails when you have the dogfight with the Me-262s. There is a moment when one P-51 somehow survives multiple hits, including ones through the cockpit canopy. The Me-262 has 30mm cannons, those do not make tiny holes.

Pearl Harbour had basic historical inaccuracies

@@michaelvansise4887 funny enough that fight with the Me-262 did happen in reality and the P-51D came out on top.... except the way it did was not accurately portrayed in Red Tails

Welcome to American propaganda :D

Same thing on my mind bro

Thank you for putting it out there I thought nobody would say XD

Brett Hobbs its a long barreled 75

@@SpoopyWhite There weren't any long barrel 75mm Shermans.

Brett Hobbs yeah there was google it

It based

Obviously, "Fury" was a thinly veiled attempt to make "Girls und Panzer" look more plausible. I think they succeeded.

@@klausstock8020 yes it is!

I literally saw that before watching this

Thomas Delleart Girls Und Panzer was pretty fun to watch

Thats just an excuse that he needed to make because alot of his sherman tankes got destroyed from a range of 1 mile

There was a reason why Patton was nicknamed "Old Blood N Guts"!

@@MalcolmBrenner apparently, he was referring to the blood and guts of his men. Not his own.

@@mistermax3034 Of course. And one certainly can't accuse him of not having enough guts. Brains yes, he followed the North Koreans right into a Chinese trap in 1950, but no, no shortage of guts, or balls as we used to call them, before we became feminist men, and I mean that as no insult to the ladies. They have ovaries!

i dont like that style of combat but hey whatever motivates your men

TheRayRayGGG That entire last battle made me cringe, and really made to movie suck in my eyes. In reality a immobilized tank is a dead one. Plus in reality those SS troops would have had their panzerfausts on their backs ready to go.

Right? like the kid towards the beginning who knocked out the Sherman that was mobile and then later this unit of trained soldiers that have a bunch of AT ability can't take out one thats already badly damaged.

TheRayRayGGG I’m not at all discrediting your argument, but check out the story of Audie Murphy. His real story of fending off a advancing German column with a 50. Cal on a disabled M10 is probably more fantastical than anything Hollywood could come up with. I’m not saying it isn’t 1 in a million, but something like the Fury scenario could have happened.

YES. Jk I like the movie and I understand thats what it is its just that it was sold as a realistic movie when it really wasn't. I think they should have just put it in a less perilous situation.

Panzershrek not panzerfaust.panzerfaust need to use 2 shot to destroy the "FURY"

Panzerfausts had an effective range about 50 meters.

@@AllanFolm and they stood right next to fury

@@AllanFolmNot all of them, latest designs had around 100 meters of effective range.

Nothing can penetrate plot armor

Plot armour moment

They used tracer round A LOT in the wake especially in the machine guns. Looks cool

What's funny is Germany actually did use green tracers.

@@dr.vanilla9017 REEEEEEEE

Out of interest, how old was your great great grandfather back then? Four generations back, so he must have been a teenager, right? I'm asking because that seems to be the most unrealistic thing about the movie, all the soldiers are older men, when in truth they were really young.

It's likely they didn't even see the other tanks given the lighting.

It can just put in a new one

Craig Dillon Ikr

Achilles can't die though, unless you hit the heel.

yeah because who would shoot a damn celebrity tank. right?

Of course you are.

implying you need a video for that

How... Oh wait I can see, nvm. Tbf I have seen the same with the word "Funny" so I can't say otherwise.

@cornskid kinda reminds me of Enemy at the gates

@@shepherdlavellen3301 On the other hand,it's good to remind of the history... The Japanese guy's wasen't that "NICE" with the Chinese population during -37 -38 It WAS a MASS slaugher !

It looked like a War Thunder match to me 😆

@@republic0_032 that too!

Κικιώνης Κωνσταντίνος yes I was laughing at that

Κικιώνης Κωνσταντίνος TECHNICALLY it is accurate. That’s very accurate to what a tracer looks like. But every 2-4th shot is a bit much. Normally tracers will be in the 3-4th bullet and then the 3-4th final bullet. So that when you shoot your allies can see the direction you’re shooting (but not the very first shot in case they weren’t looking that way) and then the final shots so they know they’re about to run out (sometimes not always for that)

Star wars was inspired by that kind of real life tracer fire

"hanz" ?

But what if they have more than one round and flank us?

@@KJ-qr8cd might not've been an issue if they didn't break cover XD

Hanz would be a cool name sadly it doesn’t exist 😅

"Hanz get ze Luger"!

When plot armor is thicker than the plot.

LOOOOOOOOOOOL

Agreed XD

Yep! Totally!

Shawn Lewis thats why that didnt happen lol. Its a movie at the end of it. And i never heard the director mention it being ultra realistic. It was a fun action packed movie.

my problem with movies is something that fury shows perfectly. They could have changed bit and pieces by smallest amount to make them realistic but the dont. Like they could have just had fury in the middle of the Sherman column...then the tiger could then shoot the first tank, reload, and shoot the back one as the Sherman's try to rotate and then get smoked by fury....which causes them to push forward through said smoke as they have lowered the number advantage, due to this unexpected move and the fast paced situation they shoot the first tank they see (this being the last of the 3 75mm shermans) and then get blasted to bits by fury while they reloading and realising their mistake. That imo would have been a sick scene.

Yeah, but hitting the front tank first gives them less options. If you hit the rear first, the column is still able to go full speed and has total freedom of mobility anywhere but backwards, if on good terrain. Hit the front and they have to maneuver around it to keep pushing foward, and may even have to slow down to avoid it. Then the rear to cut off an attempt to reverse, as vehicles tend to take a moment to stop and then reverse.

@@kinorris1709 true that but either way you’re still scaring the shit out of tankers

If you shoot the rear tank they still have the ability to drive forwards and towards their objective, they would have no need to reverse in that scenario.

@@2ndcomingofFritz You miss the psychological perspective. If the last tank in your column just got hit, would you try and continue advancing in the open? Or would you try and figure out where the shot came from. Just because the front is open, doesn't mean that any crew wouldn't be stunned by a round impacting the last tank in the group

@@2ndcomingofFritz You miss the psychological perspective. If the last tank in your column just got hit, would you try and continue advancing in the open? Or would you try and figure out where the shot came from. Just because the front is open, doesn't mean that any crew wouldn't be stunned by a round impacting the last tank in the group

Roger Rennenger that was so fucking annoying, i remember a scene where like 3 germans crawled on top of the tank WITHOUT their weapons to i suppose slap their asses to death?

First of all, it was 300, that's not a Division, only two Companies, not even a Battalion. Secondly, they threw grenades inside the tank. Your rifle gets in the way when you're doing certain tasks, so it's occasionally better to not have it.

James brown well, If hundreds of your friends have just been dismembered by some fuckers in a tank, i would not have crawled on top of it without a gun. I got your point, maybe a rifle would have made climbing the tank too difficult,but at least an handgun! Cmon, in a situation like that i would not have gone without anything. Its just stupid.

And some of them had Panzerfaust so yeah

How they had around 40 Panzerfausts at the start of the fight, but only even fired one.... But they did, for some reason, set up MG42s to fire at the tank....

Yes, thank you. Thought I was gonna have to say it myself.

Yes

I’m glad you pointed that out. The only difference in the two guns is the muzzle brake!

I was wondering if anyone would notice that!

yeah that was a 76 because theres one like that in war thunder

levi ackerman don’t remind me

Lt. Audie Murphy, read his story and you’re welcome :3

There is so much bias the tank gets hit by panzerfausts and only one crew member dies

@@ChaS4m compare him to what they were claiming in fury, how couldn't they just... Go around, all the crew are facing forward

@@martimnunesmartinho6788 Go read how many crew members died per destroyed Sherman.

You are correct, there were fewer Tigers and Panthers than what we would think, German Tanks were often misidentified, as Panthers or Tigers,

Question how can the 76 millimeter gun penetrate a Tiger or Panther? But the 75 millimeter can’t? Can 1 millimeter make all the difference? I’m not a Tank Expert btw

@@lightninghawk5981 ammo type and barrel length is an important factor. The 75mm's muzzle velocity was low compared to the 76mm (1850-2000 vs 2600 ft/s). Even using the same ammo the 76mm's performance was vastly superior. The 75mm is often referred to as barely more than a howitzer.

Because of velocity and fire power. Not to mention the tiger was really well armored except from the sides.

Soridan ah ok thank you. So much clearer now

@@lightninghawk5981 The Panzer IV D version had a 75mm gun in 1940 allready, while the Panther had a 75mm gun as well. Yet they were a world apart. The short barreled panzer IV was mainly used to fire high explosive shells into infantry and other soft targets, when speed of the projectile is not really usefull. A 'slow' projectile is usefull, because when firing a lot of smoke and dust clouds the view, and when the shell hits the target before the view is cleared, you have no idea if you hit anything. With a slow shell you have a better idea if you hit or missed. It does not take a fast shell to penetrate a truck or artillery from any side, and almost all damage is done by the explosion. Now to kill a tank, you need a shell that penetrates the armour. A tank can not be destroyed by a simple explosion on the outside, like a human. So you need a shell that has enough kinetic energy to punch through the armour and deliver all kinds of nasty death on the inside. So a faster shell is better. How do we make a shell travel faster? A longer barrel helps, as the gas expanding from the cartridge pushes the shell for a longer time before it leaves the barrel and the gas can expand in other directions. The Panther had a very long gun, and its 75 mm shells were both accurate and fast due to this. It was even better suited to kill enemy tanks then the Tiger 1 with an 88mm gun. The King Tiger also had an 88mm gun, but it was longer yet, and outclassed them both. TL:DR 75 mm and 76 mm are names, describing a lot more then just the diameter of the shell.

Brake.. sorry, wordmnazi

I would feel like the one without the muzzle break would be safer to operate as it isn’t as easily distinguishable.

yo i think i follow you on twitch

All movies are lies, to one degree or another. Even the "true to life" documentsries. If they were true to life no one would go to see them.

*Nein!* Brad Pitt has plot armor we would only damage a spare helmet on the outside of ze tank you fool!

Oh, I'm sorry *Pëtër,* I didn't realize you were das Commandant, perhaps you can command ze tank from the driver seat. I say nein zooting at ze 76mm.

Benjamin Merrifield How about we load ze weak shell and shoot ze engine!

Ha, und risk killing ze crew? *Nein!* I say we do...something. I don't know. Vas do German's do in American WW2 movies?

Benjamin Merrifield We seem to lose our experience! We become 50% crews!

too bad people can't make constructive comments like yours, bravo for you too gentleman, i personally love that movie, i don't care if it's unacurate or whatever, if i want accuracy i would watch a documentary not a movie, it doesn't say based on actual events at any point... so yeah, what i love in this movie is the acting, you can see the madness of war in their faces, it's a really good movie imo

It's personal to me Gabri. My father fought in the war as an American serving with the Canadian Sixth Army sent to guard the beaches of England against possible Nazi invasion and was later captured at Dieppe. He died when I was very young, so I never got to speak with him about his war experiences. I also had uncles who served in the war in the South Pacific, one in the Navy and the other in the Merchant Marines. So, when I see young men study this monumental struggle it does tend to make me happy. It's personal for me. I don't want it to be forgotten.

Bill Bird damn, you have a few heroes in your family my friend, they are in a special place in heaven for sure. I'm 18 years old and im deeply obsessed with the 20th century specially ww2, lol right now i was watching a documentary about it xD i would give anything to have the chance to talk to a ww2 veteran, unfortunately they are less every day, so i will never have my chance :'( and you are right, such dark event should never be forgotten by any reason. And again respect from spain to your father and uncles ✊

I am 20 years old, I used to not care much about World War 2 or history in general, but after spending 7 months by myself, I got to know myself better, I had an eye opening experience. I all of a sudden became absolutely fascinated and passionate about history, especially World War 2. I began to read so many stories from both sides of the war, every time I would cry my eyes out. I realized the true scale of World War 2, I started immensely respecting veterans of ALL countries, I started to really treasure all World War 2 veterans, all those personal stories, the thought of losing those veterans truly broke my heart, I was constantly in tears reading and thinking about it. These men changed the world, these men made the ultimate sacrifice. I know this may seem silly, but their stories gave me a lot of motivation to be a better person. I wish I could be as much as a man as they were, I will forever treasure their memories, I will respect and honor them until my dying breath.

Bill Bird that's a pretty cool family legacy. From my own family, my Grandad was on a merchant ship sent to Dunkirk to assist in the rescue and remained in the merchant navy the rest of the war, then left the service in 1946 My great grandfather was in the Royal navy but I don't have much info on his ww2 career though I know he stayed in service after, taking part in a few notable events such as the 'Yangzee River incident'. My other great grandfather served in a British artillery regiment in both WW1 and 2, I have a few old photos but that's about it. And various other relations served in various branches during the war and several of them ended up loosing their lives. It is a great hope of mine that these men, their actions and their sacrifices are never forgotten, especially now that most of these people are no longer around to tell us their stories

@percapita1239 I searched it up

Well said mate, its pissing me off with this idiot mocking the movie, My brother was the lead military advisor. A tank veteran of 22 years. Served in Bosnia, Iraq and Afghan. Like he said to me, its not 100 percent accurate due to the fact it was aiming at being a Hollywood blockbuster, it needed to be as close to the real thing whilst still being a source of entertainment. Little things that REAL tankers would notice are things like pissing in ammo tins, throwing hot coffee on the infantry boys freezing their tits off is a sure sign this movie was given advice from a guy that lived the life. As for this idiot talking tank warfare inaccuracies, I think he needs to close it and keep it closed. Gotta love the RU-vid generation thinking they are experts. All knowledge gained without experiencing it, half these fuckwitts wouldn’t last basic training let alone going into combat. PS. I’m also a veteran so hate civvies chiming in thinking they know shit they never had the balls to even contemplate doing.

After being smoked like that no german Panzerkommandant would decide to leave his concealed cover and move blindly towards the already waiting enemy. German tankguidelines were very clear about that in the second world war. There is a video of a german historian who reviewed the whole scene and he was very impartial about it. He also provided sources where such information can be found. I highly recommend you watching it before putting your modern, incomparable tank tactics into relation.

Who are you responding to? If I were the German Tank Commander in that position, the Sherman crews would have had their hands full.. I would have popped the first one and the last one then sat back and split the others in half as they attacked. If I was in danger of being overrun I would have backed up to a secondary position and waited for them to clear my primary. The Sherman crews had no choice but to action on the contact, separate and attack.

@@roguebladerunner What's your opinion on the Yanks doing nothing to win WWII compared to the Russians and Brits?

chaosXpert the yanks definitely played their part, of course they did and a big part too, the brits where needing help to make ground, but let’s not forget that the British had been fighting that war for years before America came in. They had fresh resources and good numbers which were needed. I’m not in line with some Americans thinking they won the war entirely themselves, that’s like bringing Ronaldo on at the 88th minute, scoring a goal and saying he single handedly won the entire game.

They were tryna re-enact Star Wars pew pew pew

in WWII americans did every 3rd ... germans did every 5th ... japanese did every 4th ... italians ranged from 3 to 6 for the tracer it depended on who loaded the belt and what was available at the time ...

0623kaboom oh we got an expert here

@@0623kaboom No, all American ammunition was loaded with the 5th round as a tracer.

How slow do you think the m2 fires?

A long time ago in a country a small distance away.....

Reminds me of the funny issue with Warhammer 40k Imperial Soldier lore. In which they have "lasguns" Or flashlights as their nicknamed that are laser guns that can kill a person in 1-2 shots like a normal gun. But against everything else its terrible. All it does is obscure your vision with the amount of tracers going off.

I assume you never joined any army,dont you? Google for tracer ammunition,Mr. Star Wars-Generation.

​@@bernisweltredsun1245 I understand that tracers can be useful. However they also clearly show your position from the arc of fire you are producing, and are rarely used comparatively to . Especially in real life during ww2. It was just a joke about the fact that too many tracer rounds can be a negative thing and obstructive view wise like "laser" rounds.

@@FutureFlash2034 Thing is though, a Lasgun has a battery pack that can be recharged by being thrown into a fire or have the shot beat out of it if need be and the power of a Lasgun can vary based on power setting (like setting its power to "Makeshift Melta Bomb" and throwing it if need be, however that is MOST DEFINITELY ill advised in most cases and will probably get you in trouble with a QM equivalent), pattern (based on what Forge World it comes from and for what regiment it was made for), and modifications made to it by soldiers in the field.