The Pronoun Ne in Italian 

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I noticed a lot of Italians from different parts of the country skip the 'ne' part. So to use your example: Hai bisogno di vitamine ? , they seem to respond with 'No, non ho bisogno ' instead of no, non ne ho bisogno ' .

Hi! The past participle agrees directly with the object replaced when there's neither quantity nor any other kind of specification after the verb: --> Mi ha chiesto se ho incontrato delle ragazze, gli ho risposto che non NE ho conosciut"e" (feminine plural ending, just as "ragazze") --> Mi ha offerto dei soldi, ma da lui non NE avrei mai accettat"i" (masculine plural ending, just as "soldi") --> Ho cercato dell'acqua nel frigorifero, ma non NE ho trovat"a" (feminine singular ending, just as "acqua") When the verb is followed by a quantity or any other kind of specification, we can actually have 2 options: 1. no agreement at all --> Mi ha chiesto se ho incontrato delle ragazze, gli ho risposto che non NE ho conosciut"o" nessuna (just the neutral "o" ending) --> Ho cercato dell'acqua nel frigorifero, ma NE ho trovat"o" solo due bottiglie (just the neutral "o" ending) --> Sono uscito con Andrea e NE ho conosciut"o" gli amici (just the neutral "o" ending) • • • This solution is considered to be the most appropriate in written language and in high-register oral language 2. agreement with the word that follows the verb (quantity or specification) --> Mi ha chiesto se ho incontrato delle ragazze, gli ho risposto che non NE ho conosciut"a" nessuna (feminine singular ending, just as "nessuna") --> Ho cercato dell'acqua nel frigorifero, ma NE ho trovat"e" solo due bottiglie (feminine plural ending, just as "bottiglie") --> Sono uscito con Andrea e NE ho conosciut'i" gli amici (masculine plural ending, just as "amici") • • • This solution is more typical of everyday speech, but actually widely accepted in all situations (and correct in any case) If the quantity is expressed by a simple numeral without any noun referred to it, the agreement is done directly with the gender of the replaced object (unless we just decide to omit the agreement as seen above): the number will logically be singular or plural depending on the numeral itself --> Mi ha chiesto se ho incontrato delle ragazze, gli ho risposto che NE ho conosciut"a" solo una (feminine singular ending, since "ragazze" is feminine plural, but the numeral "una" that follows the verb requires a singular) --> Avevamo voglia di pizza, NE abbiamo comprat"e" due (feminine plural ending, since "pizza" is feminine singular, but the numeral "due" requires a plural) I hope I've made myself understood. Bye

@@janeyre82 Thank you so much for the time and effort you put into that explanation. Hopefully others will benefit as much as I have.

I always feel the same

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I have the answer! Sorry for being three years late to this, I stumbled across this comment and it made me wonder too. Leaving this comment here if anyone else stumbles upon it, or you still want to know the answer. Dave has an earlier video about "Agreement of Past Participle With Present Perfect Tense in Italian" , and in it he mentions that if you are using a direct object pronoun, such as le, lo, la, or in this case, li, then the past participle (mangiato) will agree with the gender and number of the direct object pronoun, therefore mangiato becomes mangiati in a sentence with li.

This content is based on my mother's curriculum, a native Italian speaker and Italian professor of 40 years, so I would wager that she is correct in all aspects of grammar.

@@ProfessorDaveExplains hello Dave, amazing content as always :) I usually watch your science videos and I love them. I recently noticed you also have an Italian course, and as native Italian speaker, it caught my interest. I played a random video, which accidentally happened to be about the pronoun "ne". In general, I find very interesting to see how Italian is taught abroad and I believe that as far as explaining grammar rules is concerned, your explanations are just great. I have to agree with Vincenzo though with regard to the example "vengono da Roma? Si, ne vengono". Nobody would say that, it just sounds wrong to an Italian ear. Even though "ne" can be used as a substitute of the of the preposition "da" it is mostly limited to idiomatic expressions such as "uscirsene", "andarsene" etc. I wouldn't teach students to answer the question "Vieni da Roma?" With "si, ne vengo". You would rather say "si, vengo da lì". My comment is not intended as criticism, just as a suggestion to be more careful next time you choose examples. Now that I am at it: big thank you for all your physics and chemistry videos! As I said, I love them! :)

This goes straight over my head. I really don’t understand yet either.

Think of ne as "of it/that" or "for it/that" I am grateful to you = ti sono grato/a I am grateful to you for your help (I am grateful to you for it/that) = te ne sono grato/a (te)to you (ne) for it (sono grato/a) I am grateful Ti/mi change to te/me when combined with ne

What about this? "se ne lamenta sempre" - "he always complains about it" I haven't learned about masculine pronouns and can't seem to find his video on it.

Hmm, I've never heard that, and it sounds wrong to me, but I'm not positive.

you are correct that is not proper usage. One can use -ne- to replace -di- in cases when di represents the idea of "about x". Ex: Sai qualcosa di lui? no non ne so niente //do you know something about him? no i don't know anything about him. This is generally referred to as =complemento di specificazione= as you are "specifying" "about what" Hope this helps! I might might also take the opportunity to suggest @Professor Dave Explains using "partire da, uscire da, andarsene" for the "Da" example, as we would never say "ne vengono" unless in idiomatic expression like : "ne sono venuti fuori velocemente" again, hope this helps and keep up the great work! love it!!

as a ps i also saw only now the message below in reply to Vincenzo who says pretty mush the same thing, i am a native Italian speaker and University professor of Italian. Your mother grammar is not wrong at all, just now considered archaic and pretty much never used, specifically with the verb 'venire' but if you like a more "official" source i can link you this pdf from the Vatican University www.pul.it/cattedra/upload_files/16350/28%20particella%20ne.pdf again thanks for your hard work !!!

@@TheChasom Thanks for the link to the excellent reference.