The Psychology of Extreme Rhythms 

I like phasing like Steve Reich for example

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Avec toi on en apprend de ces choses !! J'ai un peu de mal avec l'anglais mais ça ne m'empêche pas de te suivre sur ta chaîne.

I would like to see what you have to say about the extreme rhythmic tempo of Grindcore.

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The pandemic has affected people in unexpected and terrible ways.

you might become a musician

Well sir, I have a silly walk and I’d like to obtain a government grant to help me develop it.

He's a member of the Department of Silly Walk.

Dude! You're here too? Amazing how eclectic and open minded metal musicians are. Interesting shit

Got nothing to do with being metal. I'm a pop rock musician and I listen ABBA to Zappa. Death metal, jazz, classical, Snarky Puppy, 80s, I got a super eclectic taste but I'm not a metal musician.

@@svenjansen2134 I'm ABBA to ZZ TOP. 😎

I couldn't respect myself if I didn't walk to the tempo of my music

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I believe you meant Sungazer because I was trying to remember such a song by the technical death metal band Stargazer, which honestly doesn't seem implausible.

@@rohitchaoji Oops, my bad! Thank you for pointing out my mistake. Im'ma edit my original comment. This will probably make your reply very confusing to future readers, but such is the Wonder of the internet...🤩🤩🤩

@@rohitchaoji i believe you meant the original, unedited comment because i remembered such a malaprop by the future philosopher-king Mark O, which honestly strikes me as within the realm of possibilities. That will probably make this reply Wonderful for future intarwebs trying to figure out how Mark O became Benevolent Overlord of Earth :)

An even more brief summary: "Listen to my band's new song"

Cumgazer

be tripple checking on those tests

Also @ 9:19 Adam Driver makes an appearance. I’m sorry. I’ll leave now.

You are the yin to my yang cause 60 was perfect, i guess i like strutting

offensive appropriation

Graeme McDonald same. and those finger guns were the cherry on top

Marching band be like

...wow - okay, so, that actually makes me wonder: if you think about your legs as pendulums, the shorter the pendulum, the faster it wants to swing. Is dancing so slowly hard because they're young and still learning ... or is it _also_ hard because their bodies are smaller and naturally swing faster? I'd love to see studies relating the lower end of rhythmic perception with leg length, see if something's there.

Man that sounds like torture. Like when you're on coke and you have to go outside to withdraw more money to buy more, and you're just overflowing with energy but you have to stand as still and calmly as possible to not draw attention. Kids obviously don't need drugs to be like that, they're just like that at all times. Like, just let em dance! I suppose it's probably a good way for them to learn to be more in control of their energy. When I was a kid I did karate, from about age 7 as well funnily enough, and it taught me that. So often you were told to just hold the position and not move at all. Even when you were on one foot. That learning to balance properly and learning to control your energy and be rock solid, is really good for kids. Karate is basically like ballet anyway, except less dangerous. The injuries in ballet are pretty gruesome. But there's a reason quite a few MMA guys take ballet (and Arnold Schwarzenegger also did ballet, to help win bodybuilding competitions). It's all the same sort of movement. And it's all about balance. And for young kids, it's great to help them learn how to not act out and sprint around constantly, cos they learn how to stay calm and controlled energy-wise. Really every kid who doesn't have a disability should do one of these things. Not just for the exercise factor. I just can't imagine many boys wanna take ballet, which is why you have to trick them and make them do karate instead, and they have no idea how similar the two things are. And when you're a kid taking karate, the vast majority of the time you never actually fight each other, so it's not like your kid will get beat up a lot. They sometimes make you do kumite, i.e. fighting tournaments, but you're not allowed to really hit each other, you have to lightly tap each other with your fists, and you score points when you do, and you get disqualified if you actually hurt them. That's why ballet is more dangerous funnily enough. My sisters both got some really nasty injuries from ballet, including both of them breaking their legs, along with getting really gnarly looking feet. But they don't regret taking ballet, they loved it.

@@Packbat Well, it would make some sense - a newborn's resting heart rate is around 100-120 bpm, and it slows down gradually to an adult heart rate of around 60 or so around the teen years.

@@duffman18 I don't know much about martial arts, but I definitely agree that - in the U.S. at least - we need a lot more boys learning dance. Our daughter's school has three boys, and apparently the other dance school directors in the area are jealous of that, because most of them have none.

That's me when a group starts clapping in unision. Keep the beat, fools!!!!!

hell yeah speedcore walking **dies**

The gays: *begin walking at 180 bpm* (Don’t cancel me I’m a lesbian)

? -can u explain the jokr-

@@jerecakes1 gays walk fast, especially caffeinated gays

that brought up more questions than answers but thanks anyway hahah have a gud day m8

But music is art

Yes, but art that decorates time🤔✌

That's really a good way to put it

Love this quote… never heard it before, and love it.

Sounds a lot like Frank Zappa's "We all get a piece of time and we get to decorate it" quote

*Then cries in doom jazz*

I was certainly thinking of Skepticism when that part came up.

They don't laugh, in doom metal

Thank you

Well done, sir.

Wut?

Oh I just understood what i read. It was fairly genious! 🤣 Kudos to you!

Yes! Words! I got it

38/38 doesn't sound much better.

I don't understand a shred of what you wrote but it sounds interesting and the creator of the video should definitely try it 😂😂

@@petatheoak6051 I think I understand the concepts but couldn't translate them into practice. I enjoy the scepticism though.

Yes, that's basically what Yee is saying. He rides along with Crowder's kick drum in "3/4" and anticipates the hesitation at the end. It's pretty much the way pure feel musicians play songs like "Whipping Post", (including BTW Gregg Allman, who wrote it).

It's bc this video is to promote sungazer:P

@@fzxfzxfzx And bumgazer too!

what on earth are you quoting 😂

split brain corpus callosum

Do you think the rhythms would mind if I helped?

quote goes hard tbh

so if you were to play some metal with a crazy fast double kick, would your kids just start vibrating? :p

@@essie23la they would start floating

@@essie23la Just have them listen to Archspire XD

@@essie23la They turn into FNF mod characters.

Please make a video of them dancing to some Meshuggah shit

interesting concept

amazing reasoning

It's more about the steps per second. Though, kids usually walk at the speed of the accompanying adult, so your point still stands!

Interesting

fascinating idea

Haven't seen the explanation yet, but I'm guessing 4/4, 3/4(ish) and 19/16. Edit: 2 for 2 I'm on a roll Also the fact that the two tempos happen to be the low extreme, high extreme and exact middle ground.

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Holy shit! How's the career-change going?

@@averydoesstuff I'm not rich with currency, but my heart has never been more full! I had no idea how much life I was missing!

@@devospanko What you're doing is braver than most. That's bold and the risk of allowing something you truly adore to *become* your job, but not have it feel like a job . . . I imagine that's a joy like no other. There truly are no rewards without risk. That said, I subscribed, I will watch your videos, and I hope to support your passion along the way. Reading how you feel has truly made my day and now you've inspired me to pick up my guitar after 2½ years.

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Yes please

please make it a real parts quartet (Violin, Viola, Cello, Double Bass) ! :3

String quartets are your go-to super-power :-)

And there will be four movements and all of them will be in andante tempo :D

Ummm please don't .mix tempos or layer double time if you have any fucking respect for your work don't make it easy for the donkeys we call performers make it challenging for them so the audience can be brutalized with your genius!

gotta go fast

terrorcore

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hypertone ;c

Tech Death fans be running

Only if it's played only in C

you can count in 1, and second comment, yes C scale is the base. (with couple minor flats thrown in)

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left left left right left

Left, left, left, left, I left because I thought it was right, right, right, I thought it was right so l left, left, left, left.

Ew gross, marching bands lead with the left?

@@ArrogantDan yeah, so that their right steps land on the downbeats

@@ArrogantDan the cadets lead with their right lol

Same! 120bpm walking speed. However when I'm with other people I slow down to stay along with them

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Sure, but you actually have other queues that you use to form a tempo! :)

It's pretty much the "wisdom of crowds" thing. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisdom_of_the_crowd

Yes! Veritasium posted a video about it not long ago: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-t-_VPRCtiUg.html

This is exactly what I did while watching the video! At the start of the "One! Two! Three! Four!" I was already bobbing along in 6/8. After getting to the later section explaining the not-quite-3/4 it made a lot more sense. Would definitely be curious to see what results you'd get from a different type of crowd.

Larpomo

It's Andante- but you've got pebbles in your shoes that get stuck under your feet every third step...

That and the fact the title has 11 letters over 4 words.

@@christianromano8601 nice observation. Very clever.

The Contortionist's Language did that to me in concert. First time I'd heard that album (and anything by them since 2012) was live, and I've never had such fun as a musician at a gig.

@@christianromano8601 And it's actually 11 minutes and 11 seconds long (plus 10 seconds of fading out after the last note). This song is a masterpiece!

The Sky is Red was such a phenomenal experience live! Looking forward to their 20th anniversary tour!

They're in sync with the ONE, but flamming wildly on the FOUR... ;-)

Like a... Marco Polo simulation? :)

Joe Abercrombie?

100ms is different than 100bpm, keep in mind. 100bpm is one beat per 600ms if my math is right. But generally with web animations you want to do 250 or 300ms depending on a couple things. There's probably some relationship but 100 isn't a magic number.

@@Vedgy the 100ms comes from the “upper rhythmic threshold”

Try playing with your interface at 100ms latency. Visually maybe, but audio wise, absolutely not

The psychology of that stuff is weird. The other guy is right, the slightest recording latency in your DAW will throw you off. I find you can get away with up to ~60 ms stereo delay before a track starts to sound out of time with itself and obviously doubled, but 1 ms has a very noticeable effect.

yeah in video games inputs, 100ms is considered the acceptable response threshold, beyond which the lag is noticeable by anyone. though hard code players do feel it "sluggish", compared to roughly 60ms which is what AAA shooter fans expect (and which is the minimum possible with current, non-specialised, hardware and game engines)

true

.. but then came 7/12 ... 😱

Oh, I'll have to check this out - I've always been fascinated by "double tempo" electronic tracks, but never managed to narrow it down to a genre. Thanks for mentioning this!

dropdead by Frums does something like this too it's at 50 bpm but feels a lot faster

Its been different experience for me

...ah, myth! Neither.

110BPM

First I was afraid, I was petrified...

Edit: Chest compressions between 100 and 120, so they fit, um, more or less, to the average bear?

Stayin' Alive is 104 bpm, isn't it?

What blows my mind is he found enough like-minded individuals to form a band

That just gave me a really bad idea Never Meant but Giant Steps

@@jazz9128 tf do you mean this is the best idea

it has nothing to do with math rock

👨🏾‍🚀🔫👨🏾‍🚀 always has been

Is Math Jazz a thing?

Math rock *wants* to be this.

I was trying to feel idk

Uhhh i guess it's the other way around? We just dit it, and realize the fuck we were doing after, the concept of rhythm and shit

I think its because humans are pattern seeking creatures. We seek patterns for some reason.

I read once that humans started walking at the same time as others to reduce noise while they go around, which might be the origin of rhythm, although I don't remember the source, so it could be false

I always thought it was because of the dinosaurs. lol

Dancing bro not walking

Interesting interpretation. When I look at (peri|ap)helion I notice first "helio," so we have "thing close to sun." As album/song titles, this makes me think less of personal connections, and more of a connection between a body and an ideal, or a grand figure, or some sort of brilliant entity, a "sun." Perhaps this represents a striving, an optimistic title, or perhaps it's an uncomfortable situation in the glare and heat. Going with "aphelion" instead it may mean a solitude, a wallowing, a darkness (on-the-nose, yes), or perhaps also a shelter from the blaze. Or perhaps it's just "ooh cool science word."

Thanks for sharing

@@prapanthebachelorette6803 Of course, cheers.

I've always struggled with the rhythm on a handful of BTBAM songs, and this just lit a light bulb for me. I always recognized they sometimes use some unique time signatures and tempos, but I never realized _how_ strange some of the time signatures and tempos they use may be... Like, Mirrors? Seems like there's something going on with some dragging notes sometimes? Not to mention the time signature changes that they like to throw in... I was going to try to break it down, but I don't know enough music theory to nail this down...

@@mrahzzz Check out the channel literally titled "Metal Music Theory", that guy dives deeeep into the meat and potatoes and it's super informative/ helpful. Yeah BTBAM are some amazingly good songwriters/ composers, just impressive stuff that I also don't have a full grasp of at times.

@@DJTheMetalheadMercenary Ah, nice - thanks for the rec! I'm definitely going to go look into this channel.

Good point

Yes. They were not only spread out, though- they tended to get faster as well.

Same with Between the Buried and Me, or Genghis Tron, back in the day. Plenty of examples that agree with you!

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Thank you for that comment, I always thought my glasses were incorrect for me, when I noticed that they worked better that way

When I think of what liminal music would sound like, I think of Everywhere At The End Of Time. Which is the creepiest music ever made. It takes familiar every day things and distorts them and gives them an uncanny valley sort of effect that makes it extremely unsettling, exactly like the photos of liminal spaces do. With liminal spaces, it's every day rooms and hallways and objects that just seem wrong and out of place somehow, but you can't pinpoint what it is. With Everywhere At The End Of Time, it's using typical big band style music from the first half of the 20th century but making it sound like it's all slowly degrading, because the album is all about how alzheimers feels. I know Adam's definition makes a lot more sense as what "liminal music" really should be like. But just listen to even the first couple of minutes of Everywhere At The End Of Time and you'll hear exactly what I'm talking about

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One bop cycle would literally last three frames so yeah you wouldn't really see a lot of it haha

I had a similar thought that 120(ish) is the most common for pop songs. I was surprised to learn that 100 is "indifference." I'm going to have to listen to a list of 100bpm songs now

i've realised mine is low now at 86-90ish haha a lot of my favourite music falls in that range which makes sense