The Race To The Summit Of Matterhorn Mountain That Ended In Death | Wonder 

Totally agree! I’ve been binge watching these and they are entertaining and informative.

Agreed well said

Seems to mevv35dd

@@TheCarnivalguy me too! Binge!

me too!!!!

Your dad was a smart man to get you outta there quickly!!!

​@@Riva2023absolutely!!

Yow dad loved you

Agree!!

Aggreed

@@clownkiller_god I know, “very addictive”. Thank you heaps for the videos.

Sorrynotsorry 😉

Yeah..very agree

That's because they are discovery Channel documentaries being posted

They are good

@@ScottyC304WV That's because it's a discovery Channel TV show

Just watched 7 Everest videos.... Here we come everest base camp

Why are you swearing!?

I've been watching documentaries of the 1924 Malloy Irvine Everest 45:18 summit attempt, they also had old style clothing. Obviously the 1922 -24 climbers used a lot of layers but this gear load out was of similar weight to modern gear but unlike nylon, less likely to tear on sharp rocks

Have you heard about the Shivling mountain in India?Its called the Matterhorn of the East,very similar shape,design

You're welcome, Adam!

Kinda strange to have a favourite disaster

@@JustifiedAncient don't be a Debbie Downer :p

@@adamkahn8645 Debbie wouldn’t like it either

Mine too! I was just referring my sisters to it and my old brain stored it as Everest 🙄. That fall was brutal!

I know. I have a photo of my folks camping in a rented motor home. All in dresses. Suits. Ties. 🥹

Sigh. Now one can’t go to a grocery store without inevitably seeing someone in their slippers. 😢

I said the same thing. I was amazed at how nicely dressed they were and very under dressed for the elements.

Probably all warm wool.

Yes, actually that is true. I walked up to the base of the Matterhorn in August 1979. It was a bit of a strange experience. I grew up in Washington state with the Cascades in our back yard, so I was accustomed to being in mountains. But I'd never seen anything like this. On the way up to the Hornli hut there was a "traffic jam" of people...a man, with his guide, at the top of a switchback was blocking the trail. He was a afraid to descend because someone had fallen there the day before. This was not even on the mountain proper. When I finally made it to the top of the ridge, the hut was full of beer drinking climbers, there were stands set up selling water, food, soft drinks, and booze. There were so many people there. And I could look up and see yet more climbers descending. Rocks were falling down the east face; no one paid any attention. The rock at this location was terrible - all pulverized, huge boulders balanced on top of each other, enormous fissures in the rock. I found it to be a weird, very overrated place.

@@jackcarl2772 that sounds about right. I saw another video that said the Matterhorn is getting more dangerous. Mainly because the rock is breaking off. The entire climbing route is falling apart. They said that's due to the freezing, thawing, & heating climate in that area in addition to the huge amount of human traffic climbing up the same route year after year. You don't need to worry about an avalanche of snow, but the showers of rock are a different story.

Did you summit?

My goodness, as if the mountain itself isn’t dangerous enough, now you have to deal with a herd of intoxicated, obviously inexperienced climbers stumbling around on a dangerous path you are forced to be on🫢🫣

​@@mistyblue7072 maybe the reason some of the climbers are intoxicated is because that is the only way they can build up their courage to go up! I know if it was me, I would be as drunk as a skunk!!!🥴

The descent is where most die

Back then mountaineering was all about which country could reach the top first, not which climber could make it to the top first. My problem why Whymper is he didn’t care about his team. He made decision after decision based purely on getting to the top with no regard for his “team.” I put team in quotes because a team is a group of people who together are greater than the sum of their parts. Whymper did not see them as that. He saw them purely as a means to an end and him unroping towards the top confirms that. The safety of his team means nothing when he has the option to be the first to the top. Then he heckles the Italians down below. Whymper is not someone who should ever be seen as a hero or looked up to at all. It wouldn’t surprise me in the least if he cut that rope

I probably would have saved the celebratory bottle of whiskey for the ground but of course I don't know anything about mountain climbing

@@poutinedream5066 I wonder if alcohol is more potent up at those heights as it is on an airplane.

Most mishaps occur during the trip back down.

Agreed. Even if he had cut it, which I doubt, cutting it wouldn't have been killing four men, but saving the other three. Those four were dead as soon as they slipped.

Right??? This was LOTR level mountain shots.. Unreal!

If I find out the actors did not really climb the mountain, I will be greatly disappointed!😮

What’s your gran’s name? We want to read her books!

Depends on the point of view; whether you look at the height from above or below!😁

me,I break out in a cold sweat when I am on a step ladder

Oh yeah I am so scared of heights. When I watch videos of sky divers, glass bridges or those dangerous mountain roads, I just shudder. No way would you find me anywhere near those places.

К2 is a real danger and scary

I am afraid of heights and I found out in the worst possible way. I got on a scenic chair lift at a county fair once, I thought it would be a cool thing to do. It was 110 feet above the ground. Once I was up there I started to feel terror like I've never felt before and started hyperventilating. As the chair was moving along I could feel every bump of the cables and when I looked at the ground I could see myself falling down and splattering on the ground. The chair felt so flimsy and the bar that goes on your lap was so loose and didn't lock. I was on the chair with my mother and brother and they were moving so much, turning and laughing and pointing at stuff. I had to yell at them to stop moving, looked straight ahead and held on for dear life until it ended!

Balls the size of watermelons .

That’s what I thought!

Yeah I was like, uhh

The point was made that he was *very fit*. Yes, there is a substantial difference between level and vertical strength. The implication was he was willing to prepare properly (as defined in that time decades ago).

Yes but forensic would know exactly what cut it

Yes agree a sharp rock with a rope with that much weight swinging back and forth on it will cut the rope just like a knife.

@azurie580 But your mom? :O

Yup... there is a popular 50ft basalt cliff near where I live and lots of folks climb it. One night I saw a single rope hanging as I did my nightly jog and it was a guy dry tooling up it while self belaying. I watched him for a bit and was very distressed by his rope. The upper anchor was bomber but the rope had to cross 8 feet of jagged curved basalt (think multiple serrated rock edges) before finally hanging over the cliff. I yelled up to the guy saying I would feel easier watching if you put some carpet under his rope where it was contacting the basalt. We chatted about it a little, seen him 2 or 3 times since then, no change in his setup... Wouldn't surprise me to come across his chunks at the bottom of the cliff one day. Oh well... Then again, I'm a bigger guy and ropes under tension rubbing things are of a greater concern to me.

Nadie cortó ninguna cuerda, se cortó en el aire.Pasó en un momento

This was before Eddie Bauer was born lol. Today they would be climbing as a paid commercial like a Nascar driver, and the sponsors and film documentary companies would be paying for all that expensive equipment.

Especially just wearing plain hiking boots, idk how it was even possible to climb up there in those tbh

Well yeah. They died because of poor gear. It is possible to climb that peak in tennis shoes and shorts, just not recommended....

They looked more dressed for a Sunday stroll, then back home for a nice roast beef and Yorkshire pudding. Cheers

yeah well it's a very stupid film...

Yeah rite ...really 🦷🩷

U just go up a two year old could guide you. Must be suffering from edema

Buy all means go try climbing the cassin in a 3 man team with a guide. Tell me how easy it is😂😂😂

@@junioradult6219 done it no joke. Horrible horrible but survived, remember to go up sometimes you gotta go left right and down

I climbed in 1885. One of the best climb I’ve done so far, and I climbed Mt Whitney five times

You would still be able to tell the difference

Strongly agree with you nomis

I find it humorous that you consider close ups and stock phots questionable but reenactments accurate. I guess it's the world we live in today...fake.

@@simrdownmon6431 comicbookguy.jpg

They

Gentlemen climbers, eh?

And none of them had his hat blown away by the wind...

There two different events?

Are you a mind reader ? How do yo know what someone was thinking ?

Apparently common sense is not common for most of us

This was an era of exploration, no phones no media only a picture if you were so lucky. I don't think people had the exposure to understand the danger.

People knew it was dangerous but it wasn’t until people began to really push their boundaries that people realized how dangerous it actually is.

okay, as a rock climber and novice mountaineer in the modern age. let me explain the situation. if a group of my friends simual climbing in this style where all dragged down the mountain by someone physically inept to be in that kind of environment I would probably have the same reaction. frozen in shock, disbelief. Just by chance you survived at the end of the party. Everyones gone you're now the leader, This was also one of the first accidents in mountaineering, witch is not rock climbing as its know today,

@@chrisminichello1698 ....i'd have serious issues tying myself to two other people. I'd be ok dying by my own error, but not due to someone else's. I rarely trust others to maintain absolute focus in risky situations.

No tik tok 😂

@@RobbielazarYup, no selfies.

Apparently they preferred wearing suits when they climbed mountains back then, had to look good when they summit. Lol

Egotistical maniacs. Just look at Everest.

I would choose humble Sherpas over rich Westerners every time.

I first saw a photo of this beautiful mountain on a tin chocolate box which my mother had in the 1950s, it always looked impossible to climb

Interesting. I found it pretentious and embarrassing to watch.

Whymper is one of the few examples of a person who decides to be a POS and blame their shortcomings on the person most likely to have been blamed to begin with to cover the fact that they were unprepared to begin with because of Whymper's Ego and impatience.

Doing something as extreme as what they did, with someone like Whymper, will usually end in tragedy. As it sadly did in 1865.

When accidents happen around the arrogant like him, the coward comes out.

Helicopter. And in winter, no less. Probably because the number of climbers during summer would have interfered with filming. Helicopter rides, from Zermatt, over the Matterhorn are offered to tourists. Some of these are on RU-vid and show the very same terrain.

@@jackcarl2772 oh, ok. Do you think these close ups of the 7 on the various ridges & cliff faces are at/on the actual high parts of the mountain?

@@govindagovindaji4662 Yeah, believe it or not, they were able to film on the high ridges and cliff faces, no easy feat I'm sure. So this video is really showing the seven men on the real mountain. If you look up other RU-vid videos of helicopter flights over the Matterhorn, you'll see the exact same locations, on the shoulder, the ridge leading up the "roof," and the summit ridge. This documentary is probably some of the best footage of the mountain that I've seen, though.

@@jackcarl2772 Thanks, Jack!

Really cool, thanks for the info. Could you also get this kind of footage using drones, or is it too high/cold/windy (etc.) for them to work properly?

i agree. What a well-filmed informational documentary.

@@patsyparkin3536 you cant be made foolish dangerous side maybe

@@m.klimbu7653 ?????

@@patsyparkin3536 @m.klimbu7653 gibberish talk

Me too. Put them on in bed, start watching, then listening, then sleeping.

That was my thought too! All should have fell imo. I know they'll cut the rope if nothing can be done to save them but it didn't say that happened.

Really?! No-way! That has never happened in history.

I feel for this story, genuinely. It reminds me of the story of Malcolm Hall, a young man who almost dragged his best friend to his death when he fell. RIP Malcolm Hall. Kudos to Faichney for surviving an impossible situation. Be dragged to death with his friend or cut him loose and save his own life… I don’t know what I’d do in that situation. RIP

@@rinmedrano8869 That would be so awful

@@rinmedrano8869 if your brain works properly its not even a decision

I would!

I know. And those hats! Remind me of the Amish.

They deserve an award just for that'll

Yes, I think you are right. I was 19 when I walked up to the base of the northeast ridge of the Matterhorn. I had no interest in going any further. It's nothing to be trifled with. From a distance the mountain looks solid but up close you see that it's a jumble of very loose, poor rock set at very steep pitches. Sometimes the route is described as technically not difficult, but that doesn't mean it isn't dangerous. The older guides and Whymper showed very poor judgment in allowing Hadow on the climb.

Agreed. I've done some mountains that have reputations claiming lives (nothing on this level, obviously) and there's something DEEPLY chilling about knowing if you slip just a little, there'll be nothing to catch your fall for 1,000 feet. I can't imagine doing something like the Matterhorn with relatively no training or experience. It must have been terrifying.

@@kaned5543 Hadow was the weak link in this climb. If anything was going to happen it would be on him. The guides had to babysit this fellow the whole way up and down. Any wonder there was accidents?

its not his fault. hes brittish, conquest was in his blood.

@@carlholland3819 Him being British is nothing to absolve him in any way. This isn't a race thing, it was Whymper having a bad attitude thing. Many British mountaineers would have had a better attitude. Further any mountaineer has a thirst for conquering mountains, why do you think the Italian climbers didn't like being beaten?

There is always someone quick to blame but them selfs . Those inexperienced men took the challenge it is on them , this story is an example on don't try something like this with no experience plus in those days this kind of experience of this feat was new. people that want to take on mountaineering should learn from a event like this.

​@azurie580 Not any more they don't! You Brits better start learning Mandarin pronto!😊

Whymper was a selfish and conniving individual who cut the rope so he could be the first one to summit. Slandering the guide demonstrated that Whymper had no integrity and was a despicable person.

That's true - to a point. The problem is that sometimes those actions do compromise or threaten others. There have been rescues required of climbers on Mt. Rainier that put the rescuers at risk - and actually there is a case where a rescuer died in the attempt to save a group of climbers who got into trouble on one of the glaciers. So yes it is entirely at the individual's discretion to engage in an activity. But the reality is that there are rescues (carried out by helicopter) on the Matterhorn every climbing season, because there are people on the mountain who have no business being there in the first place.

@@jackcarl2772 Of course I agree, but even the rescuers have chosen their activity at their discretion, it’s a chain of preferences, none of which are mandatory. That’s why we all have a responsibility not to be that someone who has no business being there. Whether a climber or a rescuer, each have their responsibility to train, be equipped, and competent to play their part. Accidents will always happen, whether crossing the street or climbing a mountain. I do a lot of 4x4 offroad, and I’ve always strived to be as knowledgable about the sport, what is safe, what not to do, and what to do in certain situations plus basic survival if things go pear-shaped. I’m also on-call in a group of rescuers, and yes, it’s depressing to see the mistakes that some folks make through a lack of general awareness of what they’re doing. But I get even more depressed by the “road-closed” signs and “unsafe for motor vehicles signs” prohibiting access. We’ll all end up as couch potatoes in another 20 years or so, not allowed to do anything that may involve a risk, if we don’t look after our own freedom to make an adventure out of this life we’ve been gifted. There’s a lot of camaraderie in the sport, human contact, social benefits, as well as the sport itself. Stop that, and another facet of humanity disappears. I’m 69 years old, so I’m on the last stage of my days on this planet, but I’m a firm believer in living life to the full, we can all be safe - but unfulfilled… ❤️🇷🇴

@@clivehorridge Excellent points, thank you for sharing your insights. And I agree with you, living life to the full is the way to go!

Whymper himself answers this question in Scrambles. "Climb if you will, but remember that courage and strength are nought without prudence, and that a momentary negligence may destroy the happiness of a lifetime. Do nothing in haste; look well to each step; and from the beginning think what may be the end."

Glory is subjective. I don't find taking dangerous risks just to say you did it is anything noble.

Very true

@azurie580 Your own words are ONLY a Reflection of YOU. It wouldn't hurt for you to familiarize yourself with the definition of "noble".

Actually, if you study up on some of the literature from back then, it was not unusual for a guide to plant the feet of their client during descent (so the idea that this was something exceptional for Croz to do for Hadow is wrong). Also, the guides were in charge of provisions, equipment, and ensuring safe passage for their client. So yes, at that time, they were responsible. That is why there was an inquisition in Zermatt after the accident, and why it was important to clear the Taugwalders of any wrong doing.

Agreed. 100%. It's always amazed me how, take Everest for example, you never hear the names of locals and Sherpas, just foreigners who were "the first" of their country to summit it.

@Robert Beck How about you think before you type next time. 🤷‍♀️ They were not the first.

@@mdiddio who were the first to summit Everest? Sir Edmond Hillary and Sherpa Tensing?

@@janeworrall3694 considering Sherpas and locals set the path, ropes, etc prior, carried all their gear, and led the way, the locals summited it long before. Unlike Western colonial thinking, locals don't sit there wanting to claim everything as theirs. Just saying. How do you think the locals were so good at climbing and guiding all these colonizers? Use your brain.

⁠​⁠@@mdiddioThat’s pure head canon and disrespectful at best. No, Sherpas did not summit any of the Himalayan peaks before the ‘modern’ expeditions in the early 20th century. Not only because one, there was no need or merit to, but also because the insulation and materials of the locals were not up to par with 8000m+ altitude. The highest accepted crossings were at 5000-6000m from an anthropology standpoint.