Even now, there are stations without ticket offices or machines open. You can still buy tickets on trains, it depends on where you board, and if any machines or offices were closed where you boarded.
The Merseyrail ticket inspector works for ATW now. Was on a train I was on a few weeks back. It's great to say that his manors and friendly attitude wasn't just for the cameras.
You gotta be careful what you wish for. Considering that they voluntarily got onto that train, if they were denied boarding when the train was filled up I bet that would upset a couple of people just as much, if not more. As much as crowding isn't comfortable, it's a result of multiple people wanting to make a similar journey and there's very little more that can be done that isn't already being worked on.
here's a revolutionary thought - the railways or the state of whoever should not be held accountable for people who choose to jump over level crossing barriers or for any deaths which may occur to trespassers who choose to sleep in rail tunnels!
Meta BET the best thing I've learned as an American railfan: slap a Safetran e-bell on it, and get out. The government ain't responsible for nobody: your life is what you the individual pay. Now trains are bigger here: an ES44AH-T4 is much taller than a puny insignificant European locomotive (and it develops 4400 horsepower). Big trains, doublestack containers, and on Saturday its three because my April fools joke is "triple stack container train" but if you want to stop 195 cars doing 75 mph: no dice. Acela pushing 150? Nope. Same in Europe: you get hit by a train it's your fault. Stop protecting the fools and let natural selection work. And also BLOW THE DAMN HORN! I love me some K3H in the morning, or A200 in the afternoon. MN's continuous horn policy where hikers cross the tracks has a serious Doppler effect. Check it out.
It's a requirement of the contracts and so on that were introduced because of privatisation. Technically, Network Rail is a Government company, anyway. The State needs to take responsibility because otherwise they wouldn't try to fence lines, or improve crossings, or improve education campaigns. There is some good that comes from arbitrary Government acceptance of liability.
'Accountability' extends to the railway bringing down risk to the public to as low as REASONABLY practicable. Even extremist H&S Managers and anti-anything-railway moaners would agree it's not reasonable to spend their (taxpayer) money on measures like 3m high LC barriers and continuous razor-wiring on lineside fences.
@@AndrooUK The railways have had a statutory obligation in Britain to fence [including LCs except where an Order allows otherwise] right from the Acts of Parliament that authorised construction. Over the last 20yrs or so most lineside fencing has been 'improved' in some way or renewed; as have LCs some of which have been closed. "Responsibility" is there all right, but it's because of increasing regulations about H&S risk management and interpretation of "reasonably practicable" measures. Privatisation is relevant only in that because several legal entities now operate the railway there's a tendency to be overly risk-averse through each company trying to cover its corporate ar$e...and [presumably] to keep the costs of public liability insurance premiums down!
+Bastian Mann Sadly, in today's culture, it always has to be someone else's fault. Since I moved to the US (which is admittedly a little more OTT on this) no less than six times people have suggested to me that I sue someone for something that was clearly either a total accident or my fault. In the most recent example, I tripped over my own shoelace and fell on the concourse in Penn Station. Clearly my bad, right? Two separate people told me I should have sued the city.
+mistressmacha Someone is personally suing an engineer here in Chicago. The media treats him like a criminal. The lady went around the gates and ran a red light to save a few seconds. It was a Metra commuter train going 79MPH. She claims that it wasn't her fault and that the engineer should be charged for not blowing the horn. Local residents complained about the train horn and made it illegal to blow the train horn. He was even blowing the horn once he saw her car, but she was already in the path of the speeding train. She lost and is now trying to sue again.
British Railway's personnel and services are fantastic. I love to travel by train in the UK. There's a collective effort second to none on land systems. Best from Greenland.
trey're all ajusting their hair and lipstick thinking its a mirror, it's all lost on me because i'm gay loool :) such a nice chap. Im a lesbien and when he said that i nearly pissed my knickers
When that guy got assaulted around 53:15, I'm surprised he didn't hit back. It looked like he got hit pretty hard by that woman. Honestly once a woman hits me, all that shit about not hitting her back flies straight out the window, as quickly as my fist does at her face.
17.35....the easiest way and the way we want it dealt with is to order drivers to drive through people on the tracks and man up and deal with it. very straight forward.....in fact ...the unemployed could easily do your jobs so be warned!!! I make real money for our economy. 🇬🇧
I’m from Sweden and on their trains, passengers can only buy tickets at the stations. All stations have machines that sell the tickets. Quite straightforward.
In the debate on the Causeway crossing, I can see both sides of the argument. Modern crossings are a lot safer than they have ever been, having said that, the CCTV is not continually relaying what the public are doing on the crossing to the people some miles away, so naturally the local community would argue that a crossing attendant in the box right by the crossing will be the safer solution
At many remaining staffed LCs, the keeper also controls one or more others via CCTV. Keepers' responsibility first and foremost is safe closure of the crossing; confirm that it is clear for each train in time for an unimpeded run to be signalled through. Keepers are not required to monitor crossings all the time [and often can't anyway because they have other duties]; only each time they are to close the road and confirm that crossing is clear. There might be a public perception of 'safer' but it is just that.
@@ChangesOneTim that said, the attitude on camera by one of the Network Rail staff at that meeting with the local residents wasn't helpful. The way he said that they were wrong in their beliefs with regards to their feelings about the Crossing Box implied that he felt that they were either nimbies or Country Bumpkins, whereas they should have been treated with the same sort of respect as anyone else
People doing things: selling tickets, controlling crossings, controlling signal boxes. People having things to do. People being part of providing a service - of whatever kind - its been stripped back, away and down. And a seeming correlation in irritable, aggressive and irrational societal behaviours.
I'm torn between having drunk pukers tossed off the train at speed, or tossing them in jail and then forcing community service upon them - make them work for 40hrs cleaning trains.
It is sad that there is a sort of endemic grief in the population whereby all the hurt from generations of suffering (class system etc.) is so obviously expressed in the chronic alcoholic dependence and lashing out in anger at others. It feels like a cultural wound from watching the behaviour in this series. I really feel for the hurting you can see both overtly and supressedly in this program.
GWML electrification scheme was a golden opportunity to close both of Steventon's LCs. In most other 'developed' nations a sense of The Common Good prevails with major public works projects and that would have happened. Nuff sed....😒
"..rightly on, ...well wrongly on, as is the case...." The PR rep, about the Crossing keeper being more safe than a remote controlled crossing. Now that's what I call a Freudian Slip! I got a friend who is a german locomotive driver, and when I told him, that network rail regarded a CCTV remote Controlled level crossing as more safe than a remote controlled one, his only answer was: "Bollocks!"
Some CCTV upgrades have replaced gated LCs where the equipment lacked some modern 'interlocking' kit which didn't fully safeguard against keepers making mistakes. Other than that, generally it is b*l*ks to say CCTV is 'safer'. Causeway LC cabin did have all the kit and of course controlled modern lifting barriers not old gates. If road users choose to vault the barriers or drive/ weave through them once signals have been cleared for each train the potential outcome is the same with or without a keeper🙄
Great series expertly produced. Never ever seen anything anything quite like it before but I can certainly related to everything I saw because I was Amtrak Conductor fore 30 years before retiring nearly 6 years ago. Thanks for posting!
Kyano There are no 313s in this video, Merseyrail operate 507s and 508s. And how can you like pacers? They’re literally not even trains, they’re buses glued to freight wagons from the 1980s that were designed for a maximum lifespan of 10 years
Depressing how so many people are slobs with no respect for anything, including themselves apparently. You wouldn't see this on trains in Japan or Scandinavia.
Yes, you would in Scandinavia. I lived in Sweden for 7 years and can confirm that on trains you can get nonsense like that occurring in the Stockholm region.
with the communications box a high voltage electric fence around it should be allowed put a few notices up if they touch then who cares once it is repaired they will just come back and do it again another 80,000 pounds cost
So, if a child wanders off somehow, and dies because of this fence, then that's just a casualty of this security measure? It sounds like something the Nazis would do...
Steventon ...residents that are so far up their own backsides they recycle themselves ,i know this as i lived in East Hanney for a good number of years
Chris Glover - CCTV require installation and maintaining costs, they also need people to inspect and review the footage. In areas where it is a serious problem, it would work, but in most, it isn’t worth it.
+JAN KERRI I think she meant "submit request to add Durham as a stop" on a replacement train that may have skipped Durham and run express to Newcastle. Sometimes, if an earlier train with more stops is cancelled, a later express service can be altered to include more stops per passenger request (within reason.)
24:25 "The signalman would have seen what she was doing and if necessary, stopped the train" If the train had been running at 125mph, the signaller isn't going to be able to stop the train if some daft old bat decides to ignore the warning lights and siren and cross the line with a train approaching. Incidentally, that looks like a crossing box, not a signal box (It has control over the level crossing only and has no control over signals) meaning that it wouldn't be able to signal the train anyway.
Perhaps not. While nationalisation may work in other parts of the world, many people tend to forget how awful life was under the rail-ruling British Railways. Trains were seldom on time, if they ever turned up at all. Absolute rubbish refreshments, enormously overcrowded trains (Far more overcrowded than nowadays) and poor or useless rolling stock. Not to mention the abusive staff and BR's famed way of letting newcomers straight into the job rather than giving them sufficient training. Now, you look at our railways today. Passenger numbers have increased rapidly over the past 20 years. Now the railway is carrying more people than ever before. It's the fastest growing railway in Europe and runs more frequent trains than most competitors. Not only that but there are big plans for the future in terms of modernisation and improved performance. Nationalisation would cheapen the quality, not improve it.
9ur local level crossing used to have a bridge but they removed it when they put new automatic barriers in. How does that square with what he said in the film? It doesn't.
understandable but on the merseyrail there are ticket machines at every station on the network, so there is no excuse. Unless of course the machines are legitimately not working.
Daniel Eyre First of all, stop referring to the Victorian broad gauge as "Indian". It is Irish broad gauge. Secondly, the video is from the channel belonging to Rod Williams, a Melbourne train driver, and that footage was given to him by a colleague.
Daniel Eyre If you look up the channel for Rod Williams, the video was re-posted about 2 years ago under the title "Just F##### missed him" I tried to copy a link for you without success.
The behaviour of some of these people is abhorrent. I can't understand why the majority of people are so violent and obstructive; they are clearly the ruination of society. It's disgusting that the outlook of these people is tolerated and the fact that they show a complete lack of respect for authority, and behaviour in general. Their behaviour shows just what the stripping of discipline, from Parents, Education, Law Keepers and the judiciary, has done. Sadly, I fear, it will only get worse.
Amazing how people try to beat the train. Geeze people, those trains take 10 seconds. Here in the US they can take 15 minutes for freight trains but hell, those commuter trains of yours take 10 seconds! WAIT!
Depending on the location, you're waiting at least 2-3 minutes before the train *appears*, and sometimes even longer than that (with significantly more than half of the hour spent closed to road traffic at some locations).
As for being spat at, or punched, well that is what you expect from the subhuman variety... I would hate to be an employee for any transport company nowadays. Years ago, public transport workers used to be respected...now they are abused. Bring back the old days...and don't anyone give me the bullshit about "the big picture, it is what it is today" crap. It shouldn't be like that at all.
I think most in the public sector are verbally and physically abused. Look at Emergency Services, was on ITV where they are constantly under battled from those calling Ambulance. It seems they learned their behaviour from the trash here in the US.
@@frothe42 yes it is very true my dad works for police and he luckerly works in the public relations department so he disemt get punched in the face but he still has to do paperwork when people get punched in the face
@@solarsatan9000 Of course, the police need an incident report to record the incident, for protection. I see this world going into the sewer, no respect, everyone vacuous and narcissistic, smartphone turning everyone stupid.
23:25 They mean it will reduce the cost to operate. There is no other benefit than lower cost by doing it remotely because it is not safer than before.
Love watching these videos even though I live in the U.S. next time though, do you think you could add subtitles? It's sometimes hard to understand your accent lol
Even when this documentary was released, did their ticket machines not transmit a 'not in service' status update to their HQ that someone can check for the passenger?
