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The Rare 1940 Farmall M: Is it the Farmall Holy Grail?! 

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We look at the differences between a 39/40 and a later style M on my new project farmall M

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5 апр 2023

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@jayeddleston9486
@jayeddleston9486 Год назад
Good information I didn’t know a lot of it thank you 🤘
@DrRust
@DrRust Год назад
Glad you found it interesting and enjoyed it thanks
@OldRedTractors
@OldRedTractors Год назад
Great find. I hope to hear it run.
@DrRust
@DrRust Год назад
Thanks. Me too
@gusthefarmer5608
@gusthefarmer5608 Год назад
Great find. You know not too long ago my Granddad and I hauled home an early 1940 Farmall M with the same top cover as yours and it still has the correct seat. Thanks for listing all the other differences between early M and late M I find it quite interesting as I am currently rebuilding a 49 M. Another few differnces that I noticed on my granddads M is that the fill plug for the transmission oil has a raised boss around it elevating the fill plug. Also the early style belt pulley mounting flange has four bolts, instead of eight, also the later flange is thicker. Grandads M is serial number 8047 I do believe although I will have to check. It is neat to think that my M came out of the factory only a few hundred units behind yours. Im looking forward to the next installment and can’t wait to hear it run. As for the future of my Granddads M it has been pretty worked over and had a very hard life. Yours seems to be in way nicer shape. Good luck!
@DrRust
@DrRust Год назад
That’s cool that it’s so close in serial number there is several differences I missed or didn’t include if you read the parts manual they kept changing things until 42ish then they started changing again in 50/51 for the ramp up to the super M I wish I had my grandpas M it was like a 41/42 that I played on as a kid then it left before I was interested in them I’m glad you enjoyed the video and I will be getting to work on it soon
@tomb.1972
@tomb.1972 11 месяцев назад
You definitely bleed Farmall! You have a wide range of knowledge especially noting the mfr differences of parts and years. Great job.
@DrRust
@DrRust 11 месяцев назад
Thanks I really tried to hard to put all that info in one spot and I still missed a few things
@joeshmoe9629
@joeshmoe9629 Год назад
Glad you got that one. Good to see it get saved
@DrRust
@DrRust Год назад
I’m glad I got it because it will have a second chance with me to be what it once was
@ethanwoodall8525
@ethanwoodall8525 Год назад
​@@DrRust hopefully you revive it to what she could be
@DrRust
@DrRust Год назад
That’s the plan
@Thegrim326
@Thegrim326 Год назад
It's really amazing how different 1 year in a make can have so many different parts
@DrRust
@DrRust Год назад
Yes It’s almost like 39 and 40 were prototypes
@Thegrim326
@Thegrim326 Год назад
@@DrRust that could be a possibility
@jayss10
@jayss10 4 месяца назад
@@DrRust For the most part they were. There is a reason why folks always say don't get the first year of car etc. I'm certain International Harvester put the real prototypes through all kinds of testing etc, but there is only so much you can learn in a lab. The general public will find the remaining shortcomings. I've helped work on a 68 Corvette (first year of the C3) which there are a ton of one off parts on that car for the same reason.
@DrRust
@DrRust 4 месяца назад
I think that’s absolutely what was going on
@robertjohnson6719
@robertjohnson6719 11 месяцев назад
Who would have thought that old high speed engine would have been good
@KennyKizzleRustyNutzRanch
@KennyKizzleRustyNutzRanch 11 месяцев назад
Another interesting tidbit about M's... 1947 was the ONLY year that the hood decals said "McCormick Deering" above Farmall, AND had the new style IH logo. Early H's and M's are hard to find. Nice work!
@DrRust
@DrRust 11 месяцев назад
Thanks I’ve looked for a long time for a 39 M but I’m very happy with this 40 hopefully I can get started on it soon
@tyfrank3427
@tyfrank3427 7 месяцев назад
I subscribed. We just picked up a 1939 M this year. FBK4000 I did get it loose, but there's something else wrong. All the early Ms had magnetos, the 1939 and most of the 1940 models, the stop switch is mounted on the magneto, and is controlled by a cable. That was a nice find.
@DrRust
@DrRust 7 месяцев назад
Did all of the 39s have the cable kill switch? I thought only the early ones did I’m super excited about mine and hopefully going to get to work on it soon Good luck with yours thanks for subscribing
@tyfrank3427
@tyfrank3427 7 месяцев назад
@@DrRust All of the 1939s and many of the 1940s including some of the updated ones had the magneto mounted kill switch.
@Jason1Pa
@Jason1Pa Год назад
Interesting video. I learned a lot. I have a 1940 M as well. FBK 22375
@DrRust
@DrRust Год назад
That’s cool I’m glad you liked the video stay tuned I’m going to start working on it soon at 22375 does it have any of the early features? I know it should have the later top plate
@Jason1Pa
@Jason1Pa Год назад
@Dr rust It does not have the top plate like yours. Does have the PTO like on yours. I have a original wide front end,but it is not original to the tractor. I can't remember my engine number,but it is not too far from the tractor number so I assume it's the original engine. All castings are J
@DrRust
@DrRust Год назад
Your M and my 40 H were both built in September Sounds like you have a great tractor
@lewiemcneely9143
@lewiemcneely9143 Год назад
SWEET! Fire up the pressure washer and there might be a wax job under all the moss. BLESSINGS!
@coburnlowman
@coburnlowman 3 месяца назад
I had one of these. Didn't know it was rare. 5th gear was slow , that's why I got rid of it.
@DrRust
@DrRust 3 месяца назад
Interesting I don’t think I’ve heard of a slow 5th gear set
@grillinrandy395
@grillinrandy395 11 месяцев назад
Nice! Didn't know there were some many differences between 39s, early 40s and later 40s. I've owned a 1940 M Farmall for 30 years. I don't know the serial number right off the top of my head but it's probably a later one because it doesn't have the same features as your M. I know a farmer who owns a 39 M that his Grandpa bought new in 1939. I've never looked close enough at it to notice the differences. I liked the fact that it's been in the same family since 1939.
@DrRust
@DrRust 11 месяцев назад
That’s really cool 84 years in the same family
@grillinrandy395
@grillinrandy395 11 месяцев назад
@DrRust It is cool. We have a D John Deere Grandpa bought new in 1925 and an Allis Chalmers WC Grandpa bought new in 1942. The D has always been on steel. The WC came into the Allis Chalmers dealer in town on steel wheels, war tractors didn't get rubber tires. Grandpa drove the 1938 WC Allis Chalmers flattop into town that he was trading in on the 42. The rubber tires were swapped onto the new tractor, and Grandpa drove home.
@DrRust
@DrRust 11 месяцев назад
That’s great I wish I had any of my dads family tractors but they’re all gone long ago that D sounds really cool I love unstyled D’s
@DrRust
@DrRust 11 месяцев назад
And the Allis story is cool I have a similar story about my great grandpa his rubber tires and electric start kit came in after the war was over for his 43 JD A and he had no idea it had been included with the cost of the tractor or had forgotten about it because he was very confused about what the dealer was talking about when they told him to come pick up the wood crates in 1945
@AdamPeppler
@AdamPeppler 2 месяца назад
I have sn 7897 but it has been assembled from several different tractors I belive the motor is out of a 45 or 47 the o and q look real similar and the front bolster is the later casting
@DrRust
@DrRust 2 месяца назад
Interesting at least I can add it to the list I’m making
@AdamPeppler
@AdamPeppler 2 месяца назад
About 12 years ago I found an m&w 9 speed for it now looking for a m&w live hydraulic pump
@keithwarkentin
@keithwarkentin Год назад
Learned a lot thanks 😀🇨🇦
@DrRust
@DrRust Год назад
I’m glad you enjoyed it thanks
@liamroarke5064
@liamroarke5064 Год назад
Met a guy one time with a farmall H serial number 512
@DrRust
@DrRust Год назад
That’s cool
@scottmattingly9643
@scottmattingly9643 Год назад
Congratulations I'm happy for you
@DrRust
@DrRust Год назад
Thanks
@jamespimental6919
@jamespimental6919 Год назад
I like the moss! Hey you know if you're tired of buying old tractors just send the money to me and I'll go buy them 😂
@DrRust
@DrRust Год назад
I could save you some time and just send the tractors one piece at a time in flat rate box
@jamespimental6919
@jamespimental6919 Год назад
@@DrRust oh I like buying farmall! Time well spent 😂
@jamespimental6919
@jamespimental6919 Год назад
@@DrRust me and my sons have 11 Farmall 8 are running operational. Make our own hay every summer. It's fun
@DrRust
@DrRust Год назад
It’s fun to use them for what they were made for I think I’m at 13 or 14 now
@jamespimental6919
@jamespimental6919 Год назад
@@DrRust we put duals on my 200 and have been using it in the woods in Central Maine through knee deep snow like a tank!
@HunterJohnson77
@HunterJohnson77 9 месяцев назад
i had a 50 m both the engine amd chassis serial number were the same. Now my 53 super h is off by a few hundred. From what i seen the regular H and M's matched.
@DrRust
@DrRust 9 месяцев назад
They do not normally match I have 4 m’s and they are within a few I have one that’s within 10 but that’s about as close as they get normally there is some that the stars all aligned and they match but it’s very rare It’s also possible that a warranty replacement engine might have had the chassis serial stamped on it instead of the engine number since the warranty engine didn’t come off the same assembly lines but it’s definitely cool that you found one that matches
@HunterJohnson77
@HunterJohnson77 9 месяцев назад
@@DrRust My super H doesn't match, But all my H's i currently own and have owned match. I know the power units must of made a difference but ive only owen 1 M It was a 1950.
@DrRust
@DrRust 9 месяцев назад
That’s interesting I wonder if the H engine line was done differently than the M line since there wasn’t any H diesels
@HunterJohnson77
@HunterJohnson77 9 месяцев назад
@@DrRust ahh that makes complete sense. At first on my 53 stage 2 super H the numbers dint match and thought the motor was replaced but its normal. All castings are november Y codes but it has live hydrologics. I guess they made stage 2supers for 2 months in 53 the rest in 54
@DrRust
@DrRust 9 месяцев назад
Yep mine is 21975
@mikelarry8476
@mikelarry8476 Месяц назад
Pretty neat but serial number 5 off the line sold an hour from here for 3500$ is all
@DrRust
@DrRust Месяц назад
Unfortunately it’s still just a farmall M to most people So it was tractor fbk506?
@mikelarry8476
@mikelarry8476 Месяц назад
@@DrRust I’m wrong I looked up the auction history, just shy of 6500$ and 505 serial number
@DrRust
@DrRust Месяц назад
Thanks for checking that for me I’ll add it to my list that’s the lowest number I’ve seen yet I heard a rumor that 501 is still around
@williamsnipes7608
@williamsnipes7608 Год назад
The clamp on the light bar looks like an old muffler clamp.
@DrRust
@DrRust Год назад
It’s very similar
@Flowing23
@Flowing23 Год назад
👍👍
@ronniesale8781
@ronniesale8781 7 месяцев назад
What does the recess in the top plate mean
@DrRust
@DrRust 6 месяцев назад
Just that it’s a early tractor I don’t know why they did it like that
@janbill79
@janbill79 Год назад
what book or what source did you find the month to month m production ? Can you find it for the first year if the farmall H ?
@DrRust
@DrRust Год назад
Yes if you watch my serial number video I talk about it but it’s all listed in the Wisconsin historical Society website content.wisconsinhistory.org/digital/collection/ihc/id/5419
@janbill79
@janbill79 Год назад
@@DrRust thank your for giving me the link according to that my s/n 6877 39 h was about 740 from being a December 39 and about 3,776 from being a 1940.
@DrRust
@DrRust Год назад
Cool
@navoeizonia3351
@navoeizonia3351 2 месяца назад
Have one located in WI. Is there a way to DM you more info?
@DrRust
@DrRust 2 месяца назад
Message me on Facebook I’m Dr. Rust on there
@navoeizonia3351
@navoeizonia3351 2 месяца назад
@@DrRust didnt seem to work. mine is the ser. num. 8371 I switched user accounts. my tractor literally has every difference you point out in your video including the spacer behind the light bar. I was told the manifold was different with the distillate and needed to be changed when switching to gas only. But you would know more about that than I would
@DrRust
@DrRust 2 месяца назад
You don’t have to change it but it would make more power with a gas manifold
@codyvought8923
@codyvought8923 Год назад
I just got a 39 M my ser # 5700.
@DrRust
@DrRust Год назад
That’s cool
@paulbrooks2024
@paulbrooks2024 Год назад
War tractors were minimal, lot of stuff were not there
@DrRust
@DrRust Год назад
Yes during the war things were different I had a H that had a steel radiator because they didn’t have brass during the war
@glennschlorf1285
@glennschlorf1285 Год назад
I have a 1940 M
@DrRust
@DrRust Год назад
That’s cool what’s the serial number?
@user-zw2xv2cn2m
@user-zw2xv2cn2m 6 месяцев назад
I've got 7567
@DrRust
@DrRust 6 месяцев назад
That’s so cool where is it located? mine came from north of Indianapolis I always wondered if consecutive numbers went to the same area
@user-zw2xv2cn2m
@user-zw2xv2cn2m 6 месяцев назад
Mine was found at Knightstown Ind. It's at Shelbyville Ind now where are you at. Mines got wide front
@DrRust
@DrRust 6 месяцев назад
Mine was actually in Muncie so pretty close really now It’s west of Plainfield that’s so cool they probably rode the same train car from Chicago maybe even came from the same dealer 84 years ago only to be reconnected by the internet Is it a Ih factory wide front or a aftermarket?
@user-zw2xv2cn2m
@user-zw2xv2cn2m 6 месяцев назад
IH.
@user-zw2xv2cn2m
@user-zw2xv2cn2m 6 месяцев назад
Might have to get them back together someday
@JasonScott515
@JasonScott515 Год назад
Hi
@DrRust
@DrRust Год назад
Hi
@JasonScott515
@JasonScott515 Год назад
I love internationals h and m
@JasonScott515
@JasonScott515 Год назад
I Meant formal
@thecollectoronthecorner7061
@thecollectoronthecorner7061 11 месяцев назад
Just resubscribed. somehow I became unsubcribed? one of our M's is a 39 serial number 4071
@DrRust
@DrRust 11 месяцев назад
That’s pretty low I know a few people with 3 digit tractors but anything under 20,000 is hard to find
@DrRust
@DrRust 11 месяцев назад
I’ve seen other people who got unsubscribed as well I have no idea what that’s about
@colinvoss8484
@colinvoss8484 4 месяца назад
All M's are just scrap iron.
@DrRust
@DrRust 4 месяца назад
Why do you say that?
@colinvoss8484
@colinvoss8484 4 месяца назад
The M was the worst mistake international ever made according to the engineers that developed it.
@DrRust
@DrRust 4 месяца назад
Where did you hear that?
@colinvoss8484
@colinvoss8484 4 месяца назад
From the engineers themselves.
@mariebennett5739
@mariebennett5739 3 месяца назад
Rubbish one of the best tractors ever built
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