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But he compared wired earphones to wireless ones, apples to oranges. Also compared it to HD600 initially, apples to oranges again. I know Raycons ain't worth the money, but the comparisons don't make sense. I feel like he is not really reviewing it, he's just hating on it. p.s. i ain't paying more than $50 for a earphones so i don't care about raycons, but i do like watching reasonable reviews. This did not seem to be one.
I beleive that this was meant to be an adendum to the original Raycon video, where he compares them to other wireless headphones, the same model of which is mentioned near the end of this video
@@sepg5084 Some Dude is correct, this is just a followup vid. But in addition: Raycon's entire premise is that they deliver a premium sound for less than premium sound amounts of dosh. They're aimed at people that don't want to, or can't, pay for the wireless buds that cost in the hundreds. $20-30 for KZ IEMs, and a $10 dongle if you need one, and they actually deliver on the high end sound for low end cost premise.
@@sepg5084 I think you completely missed the point, he was just saying for $20 even though its wired you can get a pair of headphones that sound better than $90 wireless buds, so if you are in the market for good buds at a much lower price, which seems to be Raycons whole selling point, that they are cheaper than all the coipition, your better off getting a pair of wired buds for $20 for better quality build and sound. idk how you missed that you must be as smart as a box of rocks.
@@gupadre8255 They clearly spend the vast, vast majority of their revenue on marketing. That's why everyone knows of them. That money isn't going into R&D, engineering, optimising manufacturing and supply chains.
@@gupadre8255I do think so. All of them are overly bass boosted with treble boost. Absolute dog shit especially for the money they charge What are you comparing them to? Five below earbuds?
I love that one of their big marketing points is “half the price of leading brands for the similar audio quality” and then this guy pulls out the $20 earbuds 😂😂
@@baronvonlimbourgh1716 Considering the very generous amount of bass on most KZ models I don't see what you're talking about, KZ has an extremely mainstream sound and I've heard very few people outside of the audiophile community criticize it, and they generally think they have *too much* bass (and treble)
@nooptiui But, to be fair, you can buy a bluetooth attachment for the KZ Pros for like max $30, so still only $50 for the earbuds and the bluetooth adapter, so less than the Raycons
They should really just advertise as '(attempting to have) as much hype as Beats, but cheaper', which is almost certainly the market they're going for.
Youre paying for them to advertise to you more basically. Any company that sponsors youtubers and other social media people like raycons are more interested in spending most of their budget on advertising than the product itself. Dunno what pisses me off more, that they do this, or that suckers fall for it, or better yet, RU-vidrs take their money to push their crap
Yep, it’s unfortunate but the only option for what Raycon advertise “cheaper with same features as premium brands”, there’s only Chinese brands. They are selling on Amazon for much more than what they sell for locally as well, but still a lot cheaper than anything with the same feature list, albeit at worse sound. Raycon is not even close to what those offer.
@@archkull Made in China and Chinese brands are not the same. Airpods are also made in China. I know Raycon probably just visit Chinese manufacturer, choose a model then rebrand it as their own, yet the Chinese brands still offer superior products to Raycon at lower price. It suggests that Raycon went to China and still choose an inferior product to rebrand.
@@lc9245 I dont think I made my point correctly, The reason Raycon went to China was to get the cheapest generic thing to rebrand. Any time a company you've never once heard of, or saw any of their products on shelves before just pops up with a seemingly never ending budget for advertisements telling you how they are very good quality for great prices, you have to wonder where they are cutting corners to be able to spend so much on advertising. They choose inferior on purpose, because they only want cheap to make the most profit from the people they trick through their ad campaigns. And maybe this is just my personal opinion, but a company that buys the mass produced product of a factory, where any other company can also buy directly from and do the same things, go and put their shitty logo on it, and then sell it to consumers as if they're doing anything involving effort, isnt a real business. Its a scam at worst and a stupid importer at best. If I'm buying chinese products no matter what I do, I'd rather actually buy it directly from the chinese manufacturers or companies directly, saves me money.
13:24 I will say, though, Taotronics' customer service is top-notch despite that. I reported that the left one wasn't working and, within 2 emails, they sent me a full replacement set free of charge. Yeah, the reliability stuff is annoying, but I am fully willing to deal with that over the issues with the Raycons.
I was crying from such hard laughter when you were doing the microphone testing part. Even without the accent it would still be funny, so good on you mate!
My theory is that Raycon only sends good copies of the earbuds to reviewers, but in this instance, they just sent you crummy ones inorder to debunk that theory.
They're probably the same models, but no one they send them to are musicians/audiophiles like Dank is. People probably do pop them in and think they "sound good" and are built well because they haven't had as much exposure to as many models as Dank has. Plus getting money helps sweeten the deal.
@@YouCrossedMyPath Yeah, that's how this type of advertisement works. I think that they get to try out those earbuds before agreeing to advertise them, though
He's respecting them slightly more because they didn't just blacklist him or act in bad taste. Doesn't mean he thinks they're great all of a sudden, quite the opposite if you watched the video
I love how Raycons say that they're "delivering high quality sound at half the price: , while I bought the soundpeats t2 for 50 bucks that have a much better sound (not just a basy mess like Raycons, they do sound disappointing when i tried my friends pair). you actually get a good representation of all the instruments and it has a really nice treble. the earphone power is 10 hours on a single charge, they have active noice cancelling (like actually good noise cancelling), ipx 6 rating so that means i can literally shower with them, they have passtrough audio(and again it's good). all for less than these stinking earphones
i dont need headphones, im happy with 10 dollar fake airpods, they sound perfectly good to me, im not picky. but i enjoy this guy destroying the raycons cuz i hate seeing them so much
I think at this point I exclusively watch these for his personality and the amazing stories during the mic tests. I haven't cared about headphones or music devices in years. This is probably my best channel discovery of the decade.
Dude, you have no idea how much I want a series where someone honestly reviews sponsorship products. You got the Raycons, but I'd love to see someone do stuff like Skillshare, maybe Hello Fresh, etc.
Skillshare is just payed youtube. Better organised and you don't have to wade trough loads of old vids, and vids with production values so low that it is hard to follow. You can find all that suff on youtube already but skillshare makes kt very easy and you know the vids come from actual profesionals and production values are pretty decent at the least. And if you are learning something new like editing or something it is certainly worth the couple of bucks to have all the stuff easilly available. Hello fresh is also actually pretty good for what it is. It just is expensive but everything that is delivery of convenience always is. I found it a good way to get into cooking that goes beyond heating up some stuff from a can, cooking some pasta and throwing it all together lol. It's all easy to make for novices, everything you need is in the box and it actually is pretty tasty. But it is made to fit a certain people with a certain lifestyle, and i'm sure it's the best thing ever for them. For me after a couple of months i just went to the store myself to get what i needed, and still do today. But like i said, it did made me confident enough in my cooking skills to start trying stuff on my own.
That’s the best way I’ve ever heard anyone describe them. I almost feel bad for people that say they are the some of the best earbuds they’ve heard, only because they would most likely be blown away by good quality ones.
Gaming has Raid: Shadow Legends, audio has Raycon, watches has MVMT. Generally, the harder something is marketed and shoved down everyone's throats, the more mediocre the product is. At least that's how it always seems to go.
Wireless charging in general sucks. It's less efficient, you lose some of your charging as heat, which means it takes longer to charge and it heats the battery up more, which reduces long term battery life. Just the way the manufacturers want it, so your battery dies sooner and you buy a new phone sooner. All that, and it's not even wireless. There's a wire going from a power supply to the wireless charging base. I can bypass all the disadvantages of this technology by just taking that wire and plugging it into my phone instead of the charging base. And then when I'm done charging, a wire is easier to tuck away and recover the desk space than a charging base is.
@Harrison Gist wireless charging works by electro magnetism, which induces the charge from the charger into the coils of the phone. This, however, as said by mjc0961, is incredibly less effective than normal charging because, unlike cabled charging, it does not connect directly into the circuits, letting a huge amount of energy escape ( whose a part becomes heat )as it tries to penetrate through glass (which also creates heat), and, as you know, heat, specially in small, fragile parts, is not a good thing. Ps: I'm not an expert in this area, but based on my knowledge from school and college, I think that's how it works.
@@RykerSpeaks I have never had a charging port break because of the charging cables. Maybe the inverse has happened but charging cables are overall still the better method.
I am genuinely impressed that they had the guts to reach out to you after your last vid (which was amazing and got you a new subscriber :) ) Props to them on that. let's see if they have a reason to have this many gut all over your table though
With the marketing spend it makes sense where the % went into, and it aint the headphones. Shout out to the K712's too just got a second hand pair. Such a bitch to drive!
The great story told on worse and worse in-built mics, it's the main reason i've watched all his headphone vids at least 5-10 times each, just to hear those amazing aussie stories
I am brand new to "good quality" earbuds (mostly do to watching your videos) an I had to go and re-listen to all of my favorite songs and it was like re-discovering them all for the first (ish) time. I had no idea that on Earth Wind & Fire's September there was a bongo man just going at it the whole song!!! And I only started with the KZ ZS10 pro x ($55 Freedom Eagles). I cant wait to be able to save up a little more and start trying out more styles
Raycon: “We need to make him think different of our product. Let’s not waste any resources and work better on it” DankPods: “bEtTer nOt wAstE tHis sTicKer”
love it how you just pull out this massive cans. i totally forgot about the raycons you reviewing, that 712 looks soooooo comfy, my ideal headphones for just sitting in my lazyboy and enjoy the tunes.
Currently listening to this on my raycons lmao, guess I'll just buy new ones. And the only real issue I have is the price and the left to right kinda thing, but I love having the wirelessness and the nap capability, I have literally taken 14+ naps with them.
"So like this one time, I wanted to impress this chick, I was over at her house, I told her I could juggle, she was like heaps thrilled, but like I didn't know how to juggle, so I was like, fewf mate how hard could it be you just gotta throw things, you don't do that every Tuesday night ey? But y'know I didn't want to start with anything hard or fragile or sharp or dangerous right, so I just tried to juggle her cats eh. So like Im a good six seconds into my cat juggling routine here mate, its harder than you think because the kittens weigh less than the full grown cat mate, so its all a bit daddy wumpus, so she's just screaming mate, so I'm like, OHH mate she's loving this, so I get the pug in there too mate, but whah they're dense mate they're really (inaudable) so needless to say mate the pug got thrown out the window. So like the pug's got out the window yeah, which is a total bummer because we're like in a houseboat, so he's out in the water paddling about mate, so I gotta hop in the captains chair, chuck a uee mate, boy chucked her a bit too hard mate, she's not like nana's commadore at all, and like she totally went under mate, but got the pug back but at this rate we might have to eat him to survive" help
I've been using the Tautronics for 1.5 years since I saw these reviews. I ended up using some of my other left over bud bits from previous headphones to get a better fit, but other than that they've been great. Thanks for the recommendation.
@boy lasagna the word gaming inflates the prices for fake stuff buy the average ones they cheaper and exactly the same quality and the "gaming" variant with a cooler paintjob
I’ve literally taken the plunge and got myself a fiio x1, a bunch of flacs and a pair of kz pros because of your channel all for just over 100 colony pounds (uk sterling) fingers crossed it all sounds good!
Boy oh boy I can't wait to see what high quality products Rayman from Raycon has gifted this world I'm sure the sound quality will be perfect no issues at all
More like a promotion. A viewer of this video might tell their friends "Raycons fucking suck!", and their friend tells to another "Raycons suck!", and then that person tells their friend "Raycons suck", and then "Raycons suck?", into "Raycons? Idk much", and eventually it mutated into "Raycons are alright". This multiplies exponentially and results in Raycons developing another one for DP to review and the cycle continues. Also, on an unrelated note. Raycons are targeted at the general populace. To the layman, they might think it's good, 'it's pricey so it must be good'. For every audiophile like DankPods, there's about 100 layman saying "this video is sponsored by Raycons"
I can say I'm really glad to have seen the original review. The KZ earbuds have been super worth the $30 CAD I spent on it last year. I'm so glad I didn't give the cons a cent.
My parents are the kinds of people who think "expensive == better". They'd be suckered into buying raycons if they went out of their way to buy new earphones. They laughed at me hard when I got the KZ's, saying that the $20 means they're awful (they didn't even try to take a listen with them). The difficulties of living with headstrong parents during a pandemic, I guess.
Tbh making a Bluetooth true wireless earbuds just cost much more plz with other features like wireless charging add up not saying it's value but expensive at times gives convenience
I have noticed that with most headphones and earbuds where they squish all sound into one. I recently got the AirPods Pro 2 and i could hear beats and notes i have never heard even after many years of listening to that same song
Because of you, I bought a pair of KZ in-ears and I now use them to rehearse for my live performances and I’ll eventually use them at the performance itself. They’re awesome and I cannot believe how cost effective they are!
How funny that RU-vid would recommend this just after my in ear headphones broke. Considered Raycon for a bit but got me a pair of KZs now. Thank you heaps.
@@wccrispy probably the pros because he said he saw this video and bought the kz's and even then the kz's pro are less than 20 dollars and are better than the ogs
Ehh I mean wireless is good and all but wired is still good lile a good example are the kz's themselves their wired but they have quality and they cheap af
@@xxobcodelolxxgaming5335 yeah ik if sound quality for the money is all one cares about then wired earphones are obviously going to be the better option, but a lot of people pay extra for wireless just for the convenience and portability aspect. Comparing wireless to wired earphones of the same price sound quality wise is unfair and is like comparing a laptop with a PC of the same price in terms of performance
I've spent 2 years travelling Australia and after listening to those stories I'm once again not fully convinced that Australia isn't a completely made up place
@@ohlookachime the trick to understand aussie English it's to just shut your brain and let the words come and go, and hopefully, you understand half of what they say
9 months later, got my ZSN pro X as a Christmas self-gift, gave my sister some ZSN pros, and oh boy, Bongo Man sure is there, thank you funny dingo man, now i can never unhear it, thx for the suggestion on the KZ's
Honestly 100% I respect RayCon for reaching out and just asking for an honest review. That’s shows 1. Confidence in their product (even if it’s unfounded at points, it shows that they want their product to be publicly either praised or criticized, leaving room for improvement) and 2. Willingness to improve This actually shows the difference to me between something like RAID: Shadow Legends. RayCon is showing they want to improve and make good on their promise of good sound for great value. Idk I just don’t see RAID running around telling game reviewers to please review their game, not expecting anything.
Raycon is smart enough to know that all advertising is good advertising and by watching an honest bad review, which pretty much means there’s no chance they say “this product is shit and fuck everybody associated with it,” in 6 months when you’ve completely forgotten you ever watched this video, you’ll need earbuds and you’ll think of Raycons because they’re advertised by youtubers pretending to personally endorse them everywhere and you’ll think you saw someone who knew what they were talking about say some good things about it at some point. This is just free advertising for them, even if it is negative.
Honestly 100% can't understand why there are fake people like you. Raycon is 100% dishonest and instead of spending money on product they spend it on ethnic endorsements. Wouldn't doubt for a second if you and your baseless upvotes were compensated.
I mean, RayCon is, for one, a legit company with no shady business (or at least not as shady). I think reaching out was if anything a tactic to reduce the blow, his original video got millions of views, and although it wasn’t the first critical video it was definitely more straight forward than others, some reviewers essentially sugarcoated their criticism while this guy deservedly trashed their product. As for the improvement part, i think they’ll improve as much as the industry lets them, as far as I’m concerned, they’re a private labeling company, which means they don’t actually make the product and instead only slap a logo on them.
I am definitely aware that there are far better headphones out there, but I have settled for using Raycons because they are genuinely the only earbuds that will stay in my tiny ears without falling out.
I have a similar problem except the only kind that stay in my ears are anything shaped like Airpods. The squishy, round, bud bit types just slide right out of my ears constantly, no matter the size!
