The REAL reason Glen Helen doesn’t want a Pro Motocross 🤯

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Davey Coombs explains the reasons why the Glen Helen motocross track doesn't have a spot on the Pro Motocross Calendar.
In Chapter 307 of the Gypsy Tales Podcast, we are thrilled to welcome a true legend in the world of motocross, Davey Coombs, President of MX Sports. Dive into an in-depth conversation where we explore the rich history, present dynamics, and future possibilities of motocross racing.
Davey Coombs, a key figure in shaping the motocross landscape, shares his invaluable insights and experiences from his extensive career. From the grassroots beginnings to the pinnacle of professional racing, Coombs opens up about the challenges, triumphs, and the relentless passion that drives the sport forward
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@DaytonaPrototypes 11 дней назад

Glen Helen > Pala

@BilobateDrip 11 дней назад

All day. I saw both be on the calendar.

@kungfu2toe 11 дней назад

Glen Helen Glen Helen donuts done on an og 2 stroke! Pala is indian bendy huck a buck

@mrjacktraeger 10 дней назад

Fuck Pala that's what we get as a replacement of all the tracks in this country. Trash and I don't even wanna hear this BS about has to be cali

@anthonyross2289 10 дней назад

Both would be great tbh

@ridemx323 10 дней назад

Pala is trash for pro nationals. Great for AM stuff.

@doobielawson702 11 дней назад

I'd like to hear the track owner's side.

@zakrusk5718 10 дней назад

Was just thinking the same thing lol Towards the end of this segment….. seemed like a lot of gaps of info….

@ghost9431 10 дней назад

Glen helen got tired of dealing with pro motocross bs. Being charged for the honor of being a national track. There is a pretty good video of what pro motocross charges and an article if I remember to find them I'll give you names

@yamahakid450f 10 дней назад

It was 150k per national, idk what they upped it to in order to get the owners of Glen Helen to say, "Fuck off.", but it must of been a lot...

@Drdddiiisss-ho6uu 10 дней назад

Right! I bet they been screwing the guy! Won’t let him be

@tcolley 10 дней назад

100%

@snooks250sx 11 дней назад

Now Bud needs to be on the podcast soon to explain his side. Also taking a good track, like Broome Tioga, off the schedule and replacing them with worst tracks just because they are in the same state is a ridiculous reason.

@daneg 11 дней назад

wut? I raced district 3 back in the day. I'm familiar with Broome. but I don't understand your statement. what worse tracks are in NY? (Broome doesn't hold a candle to Unadilla). Broome was kind've a backwater, tbh. the promoter was pals with the scranton guys. the scranton track/facility was aces. that sx track at the top of the hill was sweet. fwiw, anything has to be better than pala. edit: oh. sorry. just got to the part of the clip where he talks about steel city and broome. 😅 I agree that having 2 races in Penn and NY isn't a problem. the problem is having to trim the series down to 11 races and a reluctance to rotate race sites every year (i.e., steel city / mt. morris every other year).

@IsolatedWolf1 11 дней назад

Nice I raced WNYMA here in Upstate NY, raced frozen ocean, hogback, area 51 etc but grew up going to Broome back in 97 when I was 6 and went every year until 2006. Nostalgic memories more than anything but love dilla

@jordanonofer3886 10 дней назад

Agree. Usually 3 sides to a story

@Jawsh98 10 дней назад

Facts. Broome was SO sick!

@KG-yc6cl 10 дней назад

It's not ridiculous. They can't get as big of a turnout at the second race as they could by going somewhere else. It makes complete sense. If you have all the races bunched together then there are entire regions of the country that can't go.

@craigmccall7450 11 дней назад

Glen Helen [Bud] is not hurting for attendees/ riders to come through the gate. $$$ Practice days and races are always full or busy on 4 tracks on nearly every weekend. So yeah, Bud is gonna want to do it his way.

@terror2535 11 дней назад

while true bud just seems to be a egotistical asshole who doesn't seem to understand anything.

@poppianejo3856 9 дней назад

Well, the other thing is Bud doesn’t want to give up 200K to Davy right of the bat, plus half the gate for the day. Dave forgot to mention all that shit.

@EarthSurferUSA 9 дней назад

Good for him. Nd maybe the rest of the industry. Maybe Bud can compete agains the FIM/AMA? That organization could sure use some good competition,--and I think many are ready just for more bike choices, (less expensive), like racing the 250 4 and 2 strokes together,--since they make about the same amount of power. There are planty of tracks, not dictated to by the FIM, who would love to be part of a new national series. Where will the racers go? That would be their choice, but not I may be understanding why a lot of savy football fans would rather watch college football than pro.

@Sprocket74 11 дней назад

Ive treated Davey like a politician for this entire podcast.

@connormatt7176 10 дней назад

Its basically what he is

@sexatica 10 дней назад

He definitely acts like one

@poppianejo3856 9 дней назад

If his mouth is moving, he’s lying?

@EarthSurferUSA 9 дней назад

Wow, glad I am not the only one who sees he is on the socialist/communistic FIM tit. He wants to control the vendors, the tack build, who makes the T-shirts----taking over everything we built as free people---just like communism is doing in all of western culture. He is following the philosophies of communism, just like you said, like a politician.

@justinentz-ip7bl 8 дней назад

And a journalist. Probably not a good human. Lol just kidding😅

@Mekerakesh 11 дней назад

What I will never understand is that AMA has some of the brightest and biggest draws to "supermotocross" in the Lawrence brothers, Deegan and Vialle... and they refuse to get a legendary track like Glen Helen because they refuse to not rake all of the profits. Sure bud wants a better deal, he's a bluecollar worker trying to not be taken advantage of by the AMA conglomerate and their sponsors. He wants what's best for his business. In this case it might also be the best for the sport.

@amdg2023 5 дней назад

Bud is not blue collar, he owns lots of abortion clinics, you have no idea what you're talking about lol.

@Berglin86 11 дней назад

Make Glen Helen A National Again!

@teamflanneloutdoors5631 11 дней назад

Amen Brother🎯

@Drdddiiisss-ho6uu 10 дней назад

Basically AMA trying to take all the money from sponsors… that what it comes down to.

@straighttimestirrups 11 дней назад

All I know is Davey Coombs will never make a penny off of me as long as Glen Helen is not back on the schedule! The bigger issue is how little he pays the 6-40 place riders that make the shows!

@Mrgreen69420 5 дней назад

How much for the 40th an 6th get?

@straighttimestirrups 5 дней назад

@@Mrgreen69420 I don’t recall the exact numbers, but the purse numbers are appalling when you factor in buying the license, entry fees, travel expenses just to get to the tracks at least one or two nights of lodging, race fuel, food on top of training the list just goes on and on.

@121five 4 дня назад

agreed. 100 percent.

@augmor 9 дней назад

One of the jumps in that back section at Glen Helen had a giant peaked out lip with small table and then a massive downhill. Watching Kevin Windham crank a whip down that hill was probably the gnarliest thing I've ever seen anyone do on a dirtbike. Don't need to run cables back there with the fpv cams. Sounds like you gotta get this dude Bud on the podcast how cool would that be, don't give up!

@glenhelenraceway9036 9 дней назад

Speaking for GH ownership, I know for a fact that Bud Feldkamp would love to opportunity to share his side of the story.

@Erik-rp1hi 11 дней назад

I went to that FIM race. The step-up in the back was huge. I ask some french journalist what they thought of it and they said they had never seen anything like it.

@EarthSurferUSA 9 дней назад

It is called something when they can build the track the way they want. "Freedom from the FIM." I think a new series, competing with the FIM/AMA, would be very interesting today, and I think, by looking at the MXGP starting gates half empty, a smart new series would win. Maybe the owner of Glen Helen has the heart to start it. Would be cool, watching the FIM freak out. :)

@cadillacmoto 11 дней назад

"How many tracks are as nice as GH?" got an answer for you Davey. None, and you had to settle for Pala

@KG-yc6cl 10 дней назад

Pretty sure he agreed with you. That was his entire point when making that statement

@409BFMV409 10 дней назад

@@KG-yc6clpeople usually respond with there egos and no common sense now a days lol

@EarthSurferUSA 9 дней назад

None, because the FIM dictates how the tracks are made, who the vendors are, who prints the t-shirts,--who has freedom left? Pala, the parking lot track surrounded by virgin hills. How "progressive". Glen Helen is a great track, because they rejected the FIM dictatorship that force all the private land owner national tracks to comply, or get off the list. Get off the list then guys. We will form a new series. Just racing 250 2 and 4 strokes together, would be a big boom in participation. The FIM makes so many mistakes, that can be taken advantage of. Just look at any MXGP half empty starting gate. Those track owners,---are total suckers.

@BELL2mk316 10 дней назад

Hearing Davey’s side of the situation and trying to sort of read between the lines in his answers, greed is the reason why Glen Helen is no longer in the series. Him saying that Bud wanted to have a “big race” and him not being in the “big race” business sounds to me like Bud wanted to actually make a profit off of the race that they are hosting on their track as opposed to the Pro Motocross making the profit. Now that you have had Davey on the podcast to tell his side of the story, you absolutely must have Bud/Lori on to share their side.

@butchgreene 10 дней назад

Sounds like ticket sales don't pay Bud's bills. But that races all day by multiple categories do. So if the series wants to use his venue, he probably wants them to compensate him for giving them access to such an iconic venue so that he doesn't lose money. Theses series in all sports tell the venue that the name recognition of the series will sell their facility to the general public. But just like Whistler is to downhill mountain biking, you're not interested in turning away tons of paying weekend racing customers to only host 150 or so elite guys. So the MX series will tell him they have proof that them showing up and him PAYING THEM is better for his brand. Obviously it's not. He's doing just fine. Just like Whistler. If they shut the trails to the general public for the weekend to host a World Cup DH...they lose money.

@brettclark9419 8 дней назад

Explain why all these other tracks keep coming back year after year if mx sports is so greedy lol

@garyhoward2490 10 дней назад

I'm with Bud on this one. They need Glen Helen more than Glen Helen needs them. Someone is riding, training, racing there....literally every day of the year. Day in the Dirt, 2t nats, vet nats, 24 hours...the list of events goes on. Love Glen Helen!!! F these guys!

@glenhelenraceway9036 9 дней назад

Thanks for the support! As supporters of the MX community, we would love to have a National at Glen Helen...the fans deserve it. However, we also can't hold an event that doesn't make sense financially or align with our vision of how we hope the motocross community and racing should be.

@matthewleininger2474 4 дня назад

It's a loss for both of you. Someday urban sprawl will shut down the track just as every great track located close enough to a growing population center and someday we'll be talking about Glen Helen in the same sentence as Ascot and Saddleback. AMA motocross will lose more of its heritage and connections to its roots. But it's cool, keep wasting everyone's time squabbling.

@poppianejo3856 4 дня назад

Absolutely Bud lost money every year. When the nationals were there, he just did it for go to the sport. You are correct the tracks that will be left in SoCal will be Fox and Cahuilla Creek… because they’re on Indian nation landing; and until the Indian nation decides to stop making free money. They’ll keep all the cash flow coming.

@TripR32 11 дней назад

So similar to every race team, they can’t sell their own merch without giving you most of the money which has been a complaint for a long time. The track length I could see being an issue if glen Helen wants it to long or short because of the race time. But the sponsors and merch Motocross should have no control over, if you want to setup a stand and the teams and track want to set up their own they should be allowed. It’s their property, it’s similar to how HOA neighborhoods want to control everything from the color of your front door to how many cars you own.

@glenhelenraceway9036 9 дней назад

Just a point of clarification...GH never demanded the longer track length. MXS presented their argument for why it hindered TV and GH agreed to comply. The final issue that DC so conveniently never brought up was Ticket allotment to MXS. MXS wanted an unreasonable amount of tickets to sell at their profit at the front gate.

@TripR32 9 дней назад

@@glenhelenraceway9036just going by what he says at the 1:25 mark” wanted control of the track length” he claims that was what GH wanted.

@joevance9357 11 дней назад

As a east coast fan fu for taking seel city off lol

@lukebryant5017 11 дней назад

RIP Steel City

@daneg 11 дней назад

SEEL CITY? ARE ARE ARE U SURE. (just go with my seal pun)

@JoeCole12 5 дней назад

Steel City was my favorite track to race and watch the National but there are a LOT of factors involved, landowners, permits, logistics etc.

@gpaull2 11 дней назад

Sounds like he was sick of you getting rich off of him. Generally people don’t start being difficult if you’ve been treating them right.

@allennelson7390 11 дней назад

100% correct

@stephenbarrington4323 10 дней назад

11 other track owners seem to get along with Davey.

@WhoCares-wo2oc 2 дня назад

Tracks make a killing off the nationals. I personally know of one of the outdoor national tracks that said they never have to be open for the rest of the year after that one weekend. So it’s not what you think it is.

@Jaxbodybuilding 11 дней назад

NOW time to interview the track owners!!! Other tracks have turned down being in the schedule after only a couple Nationals 🤔 WAY more to the story than the spin he is trying to play innocent to. Make my stomach hurt watching this knowing the how much gaslighting the clip is facilitating.

@danielknight5299 11 дней назад

What! you want to hear the other side of the story? That’s not the Democratic way!😂

@insight-informer 10 дней назад

it's because the tracks make NO money

@stuartmiller6138 10 дней назад

this is exactly why the series doesn’t race at great tracks like muddy creek and others

@Gerald2 11 дней назад

To sum it up Glen Helen wanted to make money off their biggest event and pro Motocross was like nah get back in line so Glen Helen said F off you need me more than I need you😅

@duckman5274 11 дней назад

So no other track owner's make money under the same contracts offered to Glen Helen? Doesn't make sense, Bud should clear the air and get on Gypsy to offer his viewpoint on the situation.

@allennelson7390 11 дней назад

Mx sports makes all the money.

@jaycallie 11 дней назад

@@duckman5274his said it before, the coombs family / mxsports outbid the consortium of 12 ama tracks who were represented by the coombs family (who owned 2 tracks) for the rights of motorcross in 2009.

@KG-yc6cl 10 дней назад

@jaycallie the Coombs family outbid the Coombs family?

@Drdddiiisss-ho6uu 10 дней назад

That’s exactly what I heard! Now this dude talking in circles

@PisgahGravelProject 11 дней назад

Legit questions during this interview, love it

@EarthSurferUSA 9 дней назад

Define "legit". I don't think we both understand the meaning.

@tjroe5190 11 дней назад

Glen helen should always open the outdoor series

@CenCaBORL_Explorers 7 дней назад

Hangtown has been a long traditional opener.... gh should be finale

@EvanShowsMTB 10 дней назад

Get bud on we need his side

@dl11c 11 дней назад

It seems like Bud knew the numbers ($) that Davey (Feld Entertainment) was making off the Glen Helen race compared to what he (Bud) was taking home and didn't like the discrepancy between the two. Bud thought he was in a partnership, but in the end found out only one side was allowed to profit off of the event.

@austinbarker637 11 дней назад

Other promoters aren’t running a state of the art moto track week in and week out! They NEED the nationals to keep afloat each year. Glen Helen is open all year round running races every week! Bud doesn’t need the national. And he’s not going to let Davey and his sister walk all over him and pocket 100% of the gate fee like davey wants. Bud is a business man through and through. He knows money better than any track owner out there and knows his worth on that schedule. Davey needs to pipe down and give the people what they want!

@robertdelinsky7247 10 дней назад

only way thats gonna happen people need to stop goin to pala

@carleenaldrich2948 9 дней назад

@austinbarker637 Are you 12!!!! If you have any reading comprehension, reread what you wrote!

@austinbarker637 8 дней назад

@@carleenaldrich2948 re read it. Seems perfectly clear

@Motodave82 10 дней назад

I spoke with the owner of Binghamton and they sold there rights for outdoor motocross because they said they couldn't make any money the AMA was taking it all so it wasn't worth it for them to have a race there.

@EarthSurferUSA 9 дней назад

Yep, there is anther track that can help form a new competitive series against the FIM/AMA. A smart new series,---will win this time.

@briansalty6299 5 дней назад

Loved Broom! Used to work the national then ride it on Monday. Great times!!! Tom was a great guy also.

@jette24 10 дней назад

the cold part is...Glen Helen is literally the best track

@iowahawks6527 11 дней назад

They outta just take pala off the schedule and do spring creek twice😂

@daneg 11 дней назад

it feels like every rider likes millville. that should mean something. 2 races? eh. but still...something.

@FalseHope61 11 дней назад

2 redbuds. 2 millvilles. But not pala. Hell. Even 2 southwicks. 2 Ironmans. Let’s go to a Florida track instead. Anything but California.

@brennanhulett5602 11 дней назад

@@FalseHope61ww ranch i'd be okay with

@Sprocket74 11 дней назад

@brennanhulett5602 WW Ranch had great racing

@FalseHope61 11 дней назад

@@brennanhulett5602 Which one was the ranch? I don’t remember the series visiting there.

@jarrenklohr8046 11 дней назад

From a Glen Helen local. Thank you for tryin. We all have our fingers crossed!!!

@cadillacmoto 11 дней назад

We arent at glen helen because glen helen is the only track with a spine to stand up to mx sports

@dougmcgill9294 11 дней назад

Stand up for what? You're lost

@cadillacmoto 11 дней назад

@@dougmcgill9294 for running the event how they want to Having a say in the track design/length Not having to pay MXsports $100k to have an event at their track (yes, the tracks pay the series to host and hope they make it back in ticket sales and merch (which the merch is regulated by mxsports and they get a cut of it))

@cadillacmoto 11 дней назад

@@dougmcgill9294 running the event how they want, having control of the merch being sold (mxsports takes a cut of any merch sold anyway), not having to pay $100k to host an event (yes, the tracks PAY mxsports to HOST a race), having a say in track prep/design/length

@cadillacmoto 11 дней назад

@dougmcgill9294 having a say in march that's sold (mxsports takes a cut of the merch anyway), having a say in the track prep/design/length, not having to pay $100k to mxsports (yes, the tracks have to pay to have a race and hope they recoup that money in ticket and merch sales). I'm far from lost

@iillestrs2153 11 дней назад

@@cadillacmotoit’s a buisness, it’s one fucking weekend, there’s a reason most people let their track have that weekend. I live in Sacramento, hangtown is 15 min away from my house . Tons of elite riders are at the glen, but nowhere near what a real pro national, it’s worth the media and tv time on one weekend to give up merch $$ ect. They will still make all that money like they always do, the spotlight in an elite pro series is worth it to any smart buisness person that’s smart and not egotistical and stubborn…

@ian_davidson 10 дней назад

All I heard was Glen Helen wanted to keep and share the proceeds acquired in house with the homies. Good for them! I’m sure there are way too many corporate profiteers with their hands in the sports pockets.

@clearvuwindowtint 11 дней назад

There was no money to be made for the track itself. They had to put everything in, and make very little money. Promotocross is making all the money. Nothing for the track. They basically make the tracks feel like “your lucky we chose you”

@BobbyGeneric145 11 дней назад

Yep, talk to Guy Cooper about how it goes when you pizz off mxsports.

@allennelson7390 11 дней назад

That about sums it up.

@Coyotethumper5 11 дней назад

Yup it’s their way or the highway. Have a track removed an iconic jump so they can put a couple of more vendors in. I feel sorry for the track owners they bust their a$$ to put on the race and the promoters get the money. Every single detail has to be done their way or they’ll remove you from the circuit that’s just messed up.

@BobbyGeneric145 11 дней назад

@@Coyotethumper5 if mxsports wanted glen helen so badly they'd just rent the track outright and not charge him a promotion fee.

@johnnycage9283 11 дней назад

@@BobbyGeneric145I live in Oklahoma and grew up riding at cooperland, I need to know more about this

@jordanonofer3886 10 дней назад

Man do I miss Steel City. It was 25 min from my house. Good times having Steel City and Highpoint to go to in one season. Would like to hear Davey's side of the whole Cooperland mx and Guy Cooper attempting to make that a National.

@jhheintz450 9 дней назад

2 sides to every story. Live to hear Bud’s . Anyone who has been around 25+ years knows the Coombs - MXSports is all about $. Forcing the series down to 1 day events and making the track owners change their iconic circuits all the while taking most of the vending $. Fans and riders lose again

@Millhouse84 10 дней назад

I don´t trust this guy. I bet there is a hole different story on the other side.

@z50king29 11 дней назад

THIS is the content we want.... Real motocross insight. Lori is a queen

@cadillacmoto 11 дней назад

"We cant go to WW Ranch, its too hot" maybe dont make it Round 7 in August? Make it earlier in the year. Dont tell me you cant do it logistically, you make teams go from Millville to Washougal and to unadilla.

@teamflanneloutdoors5631 11 дней назад

Right the Fuck on! The schedule absolutely punishes privateers.

@ryanknoup6288 9 дней назад

My family would absolutely be yearly attendees to a FL race. The entirety of North and South Carolina as well as Georgia MX fans would make that trip. But August ain’t gonna work 🥵.

@cadillacmoto 9 дней назад

@ryanknoup6288 Florida to Ironman 14 hours Florida to budds creek 11.5 hours DFW to Ironman 13.5 hours DFW to Thunder Valley 12 hours This sport has a major geographic problem. I don't know the solution, it's not like there are tracks in Alabama or oaklahoma or the Carolinas that could host a national. For reference, monster mountain, the best track in Alabama, has hosted Team Honda spring test sessions, gets rented by star, has a full scale training academy, struggles financially (or at least give the impression they do). Replacing water truck parts, servicing bulldozers, etc are a facility-halting issue and they'll close the track for a week for it. I can't think of any big enough tracks that could pay mxsports $100k to host it, and at the same time has a national worthy track.

@mrjacktraeger 10 дней назад

So basically this dude is willing to chop the most iconic track on the circuit to replace it with absolute shit cuz god forbid the track owners get somthing in return for doing all the work to put on the event

@justadam1917 10 дней назад

There is no event without the series

@woodysrockspyro6436 11 дней назад

Some people just can't swallow getting used when they are doing fine without it. Glen Helen has a full house year round. They don't need a national. But... AMA is losing a great venue for not compromising.

@HPRaceDevelopment 11 дней назад

How did davey acquire the nationals from the national promotors group?

@milliebays1801 11 дней назад

Can't go south of the Mississippi. Classic line right there

@nateairulla 11 дней назад

Is it because it’s too hot or why?

@milliebays1801 11 дней назад

@@nateairulla it runs north south

@ahsnap9103 11 дней назад

It's a east west thing, aussie isn't that familiar with the US. 😂

@markyontz9119 10 дней назад

Yea I thought "Thank you, Chase, for that mistake." I usually feel like a very uninformed person when I listen to these podcasts

@Clintastic 9 дней назад

Great interview as normal. But you have to say ones keep forgetting that AMA/super motocross now requires the tracks to pay them, for them to race on their tracks. And I’m proud that Glenn Helen said no. So now you understand why he wants his own sponsors for his own track. Because they are requiring payment to even have them come race on their track.😢

@okyes5576 10 дней назад

please get bud on the podcast

@glenhelenraceway9036 9 дней назад

We would love to have Bud Feldkamp on the podcast. We hope someone reaches out.

@neilmugridge3168 11 дней назад

Before saying, writing or speaking to others about what he said re: Glen Helen Gypsy speak to persons he mentioned and what they supposedly said, the Aussie way before doing or saying a thing

@dylangreen507 9 дней назад

Don’t trust this guy at all. Just an instinct. I’d love to hear from the people who run Glen Helen. Jas do it for the people. You wouldn’t do Davi like that though would you

@ni7299 11 дней назад

Always $$$, and the nationals have been rumored to at times be break even for tracks at best.

@scottburgle4889 5 дней назад

Davey… if there were no changes to the contract and you are so proud of what you offered them please go ahead and summarize it for us. Let us know what they pay you to have a national there, let us know what you make and what they make to host a national event.

@mouthofpower8492 9 дней назад

Sounds like a man taken advantage of for many years reached his breaking point. I want to hear his side

@glenhelenraceway9036 9 дней назад

We would love to present our side of the story...just waiting for the podcast invitation to respond with the facts!

@user-xy5qf3lo5d 4 дня назад

Raced once at Glen Helen in 1987 with CMC - Trans Cal series. Vet masters class. Put us together with Vet Pros. Rocket Rex Staten lined up next to me & literally smoked everyone. I think he lapped me after 10 minutes into the moto. He went by me so fast that I felt like I was in cement, and I won the moto for the vet masters.

@bryanrhoten4032 9 дней назад

Cmon Gypsie, we need the other side! You could have a whole pod on the history with that family

@caseysumaylo4755 10 дней назад

I hope they work it out. Glen Helen is iconic

@cadillacmoto 11 дней назад

"If terms arent changing than whats the big deal, its just the term of the contract" imagine telling that to any athlete in a sport with a free agent market. But because its motocross Jayce thinks GH is the bad guy for wanting a 3 year contract vs a 5 year contract

@glenhelenraceway9036 9 дней назад

YES...this is one of our most frustrating parts of the interview as well!! The terms aren't changing, so you have to agree.!!! Really? That's how business works??? (SARCASM). Instead, GH fulfilled it's contractual obligations and then when it came time for a new contract, we requested changes because there were issues (i.e. MXS ticket allotments were too high and they were selling at the front gate). We expressed concerns early on that were basically ignored, then MXS sends a schedule out WITHOUT an updated contract?

@cadillacmoto 11 дней назад

"Something has to change, and when that something changes they have my number" tells me everuthing I need to know. Davey isnt moving an inch, even about most silly thing like the location of the will call.

@gerrywagoner26 4 дня назад

Pride.

@Motoinc 9 дней назад

Liked GYPSY tales a long time ago....but his goal is to know the elite...to be an elite.....not asking hard questions because he won't disturb the elites

@bmotomo421 6 дней назад

There is nothing wrong with striving to improve your position in life. The problem comes in when you let your integrity slip while in the process. As many of his podcasts that I've listened to, I only know of only a few where I felt he intentionally blurred the line between journalism and propaganda. And each time, it was very obvious. This interview with Davey is definitely one of them. I don't know if he doesn't realize just how obvious he's being. But there's definitely a more tactful way to handle an interview that could jeopardize the integrity of the interviewer. The easiest way is to simply not do the interview. Or at least leave out topics that you don't know enough about yourself to identify when the guest is being less than genuine. Based on a lot of the comments, Jase probably should have at least had a conversation with the Glen Helen guy ahead of time. And been prepared to push back if necessary. However, pushing back in this situation could easily have gone bad for him, in terms of accessibility to this particular sport. It's unfortunate how this one went. Davey could have enlightened us on a lot of other interesting things related to motocross. Without getting into this type of one-sided exchange.

@Motoinc 6 дней назад

@@bmotomo421 very true about striving forward.....very true. You said somewhat what I wanted to say but Iam not that well spoken and not good at writing English. But I feel that he was more on the "public" with he's approach in the beginning.....now he is pushing what he wants with the sport. (ban 4strokes especially 450s that I love and more ELECTRIC which EVERYONE in the industry say it's inevitable....but it's not if we pushback...the consumer make it or break it) And his views don't align whit what I hear on the track or from my friend. It's actually total opposite from his views. Sure he has his views but he talks like he speaks for the COMMUNITY but he really ain't and that rubs me the wrong way.

@bmotomo421 5 дней назад

@Motoinc Well, he's a young guy spouting off his beliefs like we all did. Time may change his mind. Or maybe it won't. At least he still lets you post your views and complaints in the comments. He could easily throw up his middle finger and turn the comments off. I've lit him up here pretty harshly a few times. He's here for it.

@Motoinc 4 дня назад

@@bmotomo421 Very true👍

@babadagaa8352 11 дней назад

It’s almost like some of that stuff cooksey be sayin is true?…..

@MrBailey414 9 дней назад

I'm not buying the smile on Coombs face... I read Bud's side of the story, and he seems like he was simply pushing for the fans to have a better experience, and for local vendors to have a chance. It sounds to me like Coombs has designed a neatly packaged program with his organizations profit as the obvious priority and the tracks are supposed to somehow be grateful to let the Coombs family organization come in and dictate everything about their race without allowing any input from the track owners. Coombs makes it sound like it's Bud being unreasonable, but when you consider both sides it seems like Bud is being reasonable and at the same time one of the only owners pushing back and standing up against being screwed around with.

@itsnotokgolf 11 дней назад

I grew up racing district 5, which became PAMX, High Point was my home track (RIP Steel City btw) ..... but I'll just say, Rita ALWAYS gets her way lol.

@austinbarker637 11 дней назад

@gypsytales put bud on the podcast!!! Or mamma bear (Lori)

@glenhelenraceway9036 9 дней назад

Bud would love to be on the podcast...just waiting for an invitation!

@pasci0057 11 дней назад

Need a SE race, these dudes train in the SE heat. Texas is just as hot.

@KG-yc6cl 10 дней назад

It's not the riders. It's the fans. You can't get as many people out to the race when it's 110 and 50% humidity.

@pasci0057 10 дней назад

@@KG-yc6cl wont know of you dont try, maybe near the end of the season. Allow campers. I rode at Reddick in central florida in August, its always packed I would go watch.

@KG-yc6cl 10 дней назад

@pasci0057 they have tried. We had a race here in Texas at Fresstone. Again, it's not the riders. It's the spectators. The wives, the kids and the casual fans who don't ride are not going to spend hundreds of $ to stand out in 110 weather with 50% humidity

@vintagedave393 11 дней назад

It was never "too hot" to race in the Southeastern States before the NPG was formed. When the season used to end in August in New Orleans or St. Pete AND the motos were 40+2 I don't remember any air conditioning on the tracks or in the pits. I guess the Outdoors is just another victim of "climate change"🙄 There's a reason the Euros hand our riders their butts these days when we get to the MXDN.

@teamflanneloutdoors5631 11 дней назад

Cookie cutter tracks have allowed the Euro's to surpass.

@KG-yc6cl 10 дней назад

The current 2x MX2 champion, who should be in 450 by now, can't even win a moto in the US and just got beat by a fill in rider.

@jasonracin289 9 дней назад

Pala sucks and it seems that most of the riders don’t like it either including the riders who have a perfect streak there or have won there in 250’s and 450’s. What does that tell you???

@backfireproductions4362 6 дней назад

If their was a way to have Glen Helen as one of the 3 SMX rounds by adding a SX section to the track I feel like that would be amazing, but it would still be part of a series

@kungfu2toe 11 дней назад

Make coombs a comb again!

@WhoCares-wo2oc 2 дня назад

Davey is one of the greatest dudes I ever got to meet. He goes above and beyond for people more often than not.

@rstephen001 7 дней назад

The actual reason we don't have a Texas national is the same reason Glen Helen isn't part of the series, greed. Freestone gave up their race because after Mx sports took their cut it wasn't worth the hassle.

@iceKOId 11 дней назад

Also something about the Indian land being cheaper at Pala.

@djjazzyjeff1232 11 дней назад

Davey: “So Glen Helen left IMMEDIATELY as I took over and I ALMOST lost Redbud too!” HOLY SHIT GET RID OF THIS GUY

@markwheat2668 11 дней назад

Glen Helen, Steel City and Brom Tioga could be great tracks for 2 Stroke Nationals. Run some southern tracks when SuperCross races are half the country away. Get the sport back to it's working class roots! Combine with a Vet Pro class with shiw up money for O Show, McGrath, Chad Reed, Bubba! You're welcome lol

@yoryo350mx 10 дней назад

A Race in Texas that’s what we need

@kc72186 10 дней назад

Thinking everything on the planet isn't corrupted by corp greed is adorable. Glen Helen is the best track in California, too bad the best riders can't compete there for the fans.

@devo950 10 дней назад

Gypsy talk to the man about a southern round! Kentwood Louisiana- monster mountain Alabama- golden pines mississippi- K-dub's farm14 mississippi... all national caliber tracks

@UTP_ENT 10 дней назад

Ama wanted glen helen to put in more fencing and grand stands and they refused it’s been a battle for years. The moral of the story is the ama needs glen Helen than the other way around

@glenhelenraceway9036 9 дней назад

This isn't accurate. Facility improvements/requirements were not involved in the breakdown of contractual negotiations...it all came down to MXS sports demand for ticket allotments to sell at the event. GH cannot justify the cost of hosting the event when MXS also wants to take a significant portion of the gate.

@jpmorgen5726 11 дней назад

It's money, plain and simple.

@YAMAHAMD2020 10 дней назад

This sad story reminds me of MotoGp at Laguna Seca aka Weather Tech aka Mazda Raceway. We need to protect world class racing circuits!!! 🏁

@joshuasteel2109 11 дней назад

Greed is a bitch and any monopoly kills what ever is involved?

@chrisf1128 11 дней назад

This adds a lot of context 👏 thank you

@American_Enigma 9 дней назад

I’ve been waiting for what feels like an eternity for this explanation!

@jeddfahnestock3737 9 дней назад

I just went the High Point race and took my family, paid extra for pit passes and my son got pics with AP and Sexton which was awesome. After that it went downhill fast....way too crowded, couldnt find a good spot to sit and watch, porta potty lines unbelievably long, served warm beer, walked 100 miles from the parking lot! Budds creek was marginally better the previous year. Im only attending sx races from here on out with real bathrooms, assigned seats, and cold beer.

@akope 10 дней назад

Should incorporate some of the "forgotten nationals" into the smx finals. Feel like they could also be alternated into the regular schedule.

@Veritch-Electric 9 дней назад

I heard the Promoter took too much. Nobody can make any money. The Track does better every weekend with out all the B.S. . Gypsy should have Bud on.

@williams2266 9 дней назад

Wish we could hear Bud's side of the story.

@lazaroalmenteros1067 8 дней назад

Would love to see it work out

@stephenbarrington4323 10 дней назад

Not cutting the Mississippi part out is crazy 😂😂

@JDycus816 10 дней назад

I’m not buying his story at all. As someone who has experience being high up in a corporation… the head guys always preach you have to do what’s best for the organization.. which to me screams… bud was wanting more control of his event which cut out money made by series so he got the ax!

@northjoe 11 дней назад

Wish you called him out on their awful apparel vendor

@Jone5y 11 дней назад

Jase is acting like he doesn’t really know what has been going on. Glen Helen was being screwed over by these guys

@GYPSYTALES 10 дней назад

The problem is, 11 other tracks are cool with it? It's hard for me to argue a point when instantly Davey can point to all those people and say "These guys are stoked"

@spencerdarnell2686 10 дней назад

@@GYPSYTALEShow do you know the other tracks owners are stoked? The amount in fees track owners pay just to hold the event is wild to me then add in labor expenses, equipment expenses, general liability insurance, the list goes on. I understand the easy answer to say is greed but at the same time if it is a mud race and crowds don’t turn out and buy merchandise, food, vip experiences etc is mxsports going to hand any money back to the track owner to make sure they don’t go in the red to put on a race for mxsports?

@2strokin_it 10 дней назад

If you tell a ‘story’ long enough, even the ‘story teller’ believes it’s true…

@twobeer3316 10 дней назад

I don't care about the nuts and bolts, I just want to see the races on the best tracks. Glen Helen for sure, Broome Tioga was a great track on TV. Pala is terrible. Love Red Bud, Millville, Southwick also.

@robertdootyjr2449 10 дней назад

They want to come to the track and take it over as if its there track. They forget this is someone's business and lively hood. Its like renting out a chucky cheese for a party and saying you want micky mouse and friends to do the show. Not to mention tare down a couple of walls because you are renting for the day.

@johnmalone2389 9 дней назад

GH is USA's best track, but while no one doubts about Davey's words, it should be great to hear Jody, IMO

@xafbxmoto269 11 дней назад

I don’t know what to believe, if mx sports was that bad wouldn’t we see a whole lot of other tracks pulling their contracts? On the other hand I don’t trust this guy for a second and my uncle who’s a local down there told me that they wanted bud to dump a ton of money into the facilities. More bathrooms pavement all kinds of stuff. Bud pretty much said it’s been working fine for years.

@austinbarker637 11 дней назад

Other tracks can’t afford to pull out. They don’t run state of the art tracks all year long hosting races every weekend like GH does. Some of these tracks on the circuit are only open multiple times every couple months! They need the money or else they won’t even be a track the next season.

@cwtv716 11 дней назад

Well, I really want to say that I trust Davy Coombs. I really really want to say that. I really want to believe that Bud was just being difficult to deal with. In the end, regardless of what I want to believe I am very sad that Glen Helen is not part of the national circuit. It is by far one of the top 3 tracks of the National Circuit, if not, the #1 National circuit. It needs to be on the National Circuit so both sides or one side needs to give and make this happen. I’m not saying that Bud needs to lose money by no means. If that was the case, then no don’t do it. He should not have to pay, but at some point in the middle there, somebody needs to just go hey let’s make this happen and both hands shake. Really Really wish Glen Helen was the 12th race. The series needs 12 races. That’s the history for quite a long time now and it needs to go back to that. Not 11 not 10 not anything other than 12… 12 is the history 12 is the number. Get GH Back!!!!!! ❤️

@lukebryant5017 11 дней назад

I don’t know what it is, I just do not like/trust davey lol

@itsnotokgolf 11 дней назад

u must deff a graduate of the district 5 lmao

@allennelson7390 11 дней назад

He's a snake.

@anthonysiracuse8613 11 дней назад

I was literally thinking that, and then I said, I want to see what the comments say, and yours was the first comment. He speaks like somebody who is lying.

@brian92376 11 дней назад

Yeah he’s a snake for sure

@ADBAnt1 11 дней назад

I know what it is, you guys are douche bags. Davey is a US MX stalwart and one of the people that has made it what it is. Before you chumps hurl shit at Davey post up your resume of what you've done for the sport.

@Jtothemfingd 10 дней назад

They could 100% have a southeast national if it were early in the series.

@Twisted_Biscuit 9 дней назад

I don't understand the 2:00 laptime restriction, the races aren't based of laps anymore, they're run off 30 minutes +2. Back in the day when Glen helen (2008) had the extended track, it was so much more epic. The 2:00 laptime made Glen Helen boring.

@jakerivets2249 11 дней назад

If you refuse to go to Glen Helen yet there aren't any comparable replacement tracks in California to hold a National, leading to what Coombs calls "misadventures", more accurately called "failures", then the problem Coombs has is he has no leverage. You don't get to make the rules when you have no leverage. Feldkamp has done just fine without Coombs, and Coombs is relegated to holding Nationals at inferior tracks. Tell me who won the battle.

@gerrywagoner26 4 дня назад

"Only by pride comes contentions" (Proverbs 13:10). If Davey and Bud would both humble themselves a bit, a resolution would be possible, and everyone would win, especially the fans. Seriously.

@teamflanneloutdoors5631 11 дней назад

Then make a change. Shitcan Pala (what a shithole) and make Glen Helen a National again. Been attending MX races since 78', my buddies and I think the experience has deteriorated over the decades. The whole scenario has changed, but not for the better in our opinion. Hopeful we can enjoy the Ironman this year, it's been a few years away for us.