The REAL REASON JonTron left the Game Grumps 

Just wanted to take the op to say thanks so much for watching this folkes! This video has been a LONG time coming with over a year going into it. I hear from a lot of you that the quality of the mic is bad in the intro. I agree and I'm sorry about that. I wish YT would let me replace the audio track with a fixed one but alas, I cannot. This only lasts a few mins however in the intro and I've taken great care to make sure future uploads don't exhibit this behaviour. My apologies 😊

Danny saying he lost interest after Jon left is probably my favorite joke to come out of Game Grumps

It's still so crazy to me that Jon was only on the show for less than a year.

I think what's wild is that 10 years later, we're still talking about this. Everything around the situation is just so bizarre.

Don't mix business with friendship, a classic tale.

The shot of Ross and Holly still together in Starcade was a flashbang to my brain man holy shit.

I remember watching Jon and never touching the Grumps so when Arin appeared in the Star Wars video I was like "Hey, it's Egoraptor! How random!" and completely missed the drama

I'll never forget going to a 2 week summer camp with no internet whatsoever. Getting back and everything with steam train, Jon leaving had happened. I couldn't believe it :(

While it’s easy to make Arin the villain for being very invested in game grumps as a brand, I remember Arin’s stories about growing up dirt poor. To Arin, a constant paycheck and financial security is the most important thing, and when game grumps became that he had trouble letting go. Also this is a great video, and I really do believe we can finally stop speculating

When they started saying that they broke up for creative reasons, I believed it. I always think about the story they told when Jon was on the show, about literally creating Game Grumps Inc. with an attorney or something. To the best of my recollection, they had to both write "Partner" next to their names to clarify their official positions, and after Arin did that, Jon wrote "Fartner" and then he had to actually write it correctly. Jon just had a different perspective about the business, and the partnership lasted as long as it could like that.

As a fan from the beginning, it's so bizarre to watch this video and be like "Oh my gosh. I remember this day." and to have actual explanation behind really weird discoveries at the time. Great work!!

I think people really wanted a villain. They wanted to blame someone. Facts are facts, Jon is impulsive, and Arin is career driven. It wasn’t meant to be, they were both idiots in how they handled it, and that’s the end of the story.

12:43 I feel like this is similar to what happened with Super Best Friends. Matt wanted to lean hard into making a "brand," and Pat wanted to hang out and play games together, and it strained the friendship. That's reflected in what they're both doing with their own channels.

There's nothing wrong with Arin wanting to turn Game Grumps Into a business and there's nothing wrong with Jon not being interested in that. I'm happy for both of them for what they've made of their lives and wish fans would stop trying to paint either as the negative force that ended the duo. It's just how these things go

I remember at a MAGfest, at least one year after Jon left GG, going to an out-of-the-way fast food place that was basically completely empty except for Arin and Jon at a table, by themselves, just talking. To this day I wonder what they were up to.

only disagrree about the part where Jon's vids have millions of views while Game Grumps averages 100-300K because the frequency of uploads is completely different. Averaging above 100K on daily uploads is akin to millions of views on less frequent uploads

Now we just need the story of why the Oney Crew, Ding Dong and Julian left the grumps office

despite some decisions being very questionable, both of their motives were very understandable, Jon wanted his main channel to be his main thing and didn't want to turn GG in a corporation because it would suck his time away from the JonTron channel, but Arin was sick of how tiresome animation was and didn't want it to be his only source of money, so making GG bigger was his only way of getting an actual job that isn't hell like doing animation only, it just sucks that they did not handle the break up of the aftermath well at all

Dan's joke, "I lost interest after Jon left the show," had me _rolling!_ 😂🤣

To give Arin & co full benefit of the doubt, it could be that censoring the Miiverse post was the best way they could think of to not violate the aforementioned NDA. Depending on how it is written, even just showing the post could be a violation, and showing it *and* reacting to it could easily be a violation.

I think what everyone forgets, is that creators are still real people. They are fallible and make mistakes like everyone else does.

Holy shit that miiverse thing was insane, I’ve never heard someone talk about it before

I think Arin discovered early on that GG was his lifelong dream. Knowing that Jon mostly saw it as a side fun thing to do, Arin's worst nightmare would be if Jon left or did/said something really stupid that would negatively impact the show. Most likely Jon knew Airn progressively saw him as a potential wildcard as the show continued to grow. This would drive a wedge in their friendship. Some final straw happened at E3 and they got into an argument. With the lack of creative control and Jon feeling underappreciated he decided he was finally going to move to New York leaving the game grumps out to dry. Arin was forced to quickly find a new co-host and had Jon sign a NDA so any drama that would come out from the break up would be minimized to keep the GG business from more fan outrage. If Jon had left and was able to say he said he felt that his friend & co-host thought he might one day doom the show because of his behavior and had little say on where the business was going. GG may not have recovered the way it did. I can't blame Arin too much. Jon is undoubtedly impulsive and not brand safe. And I don't think Arin wants a squeaky clean brand just for business security. I think he's grown and changed over the years and that's his true self now. The dynamic between them won't work as well because they are two different people now. Ultimately they both landed on their feet and are still beloved internet creators. I'm still to this day a huge fan of both GG and JonTron.

honestly it seems the two just wanted different things. Arin wanted a reliable income, Jon wanted the freedom to be experimental. Neither of those desires are "wrong" they are just not compatible.

Watching that deleted Steam Train promo was surreal, it's like looking into an alternate timeline.

I remember some interview where Arin talked about hanging out with Danny early in their friendship and noticed their natural chemistry. He thought that IF Jon ever left Game Grumps, he would bring Danny on. It was treated like a sweet moment, but it proves that Arin never saw Grumps as "the thing me and Jon do together." Jon was always replaceable.

I can't tell you how much a breath of fresh air it is to finally have a video that doesn't write this situation out like it's some dark conspiracy and takes the realistic approach that it was just the creative disagreements of two dudes. These things happen all the time, Jon and Arin are just humans and make mistakes, doesn't mean I agree with all of the decisions that either of them has made and if I'm being honest I've always had a bias a bit more in favor of Arin. I discovered grumps post Jon so Danny has always been Not so grump to me and personally I've always preferred the dynamic between Arin and Danny. The two of them have gotten me through some rough times and I cherish the laughs they have given me, but I've come to recognize that Arin can make some questionable choices and isn't always the most rational of people but he tries his best and that's all you can ask of a person in the end. Both sides are happy and still doing what they love and have ultimately moved on. I think this could be a good lesson for the internet and people in general that dwelling on the past mistakes of others is ultimately unhelpful and perpetuates that toxic cancel culture mindset. Give people their just amount of criticism at the moment that it's appropriate and move on.

Something else that I think is important to note is at the time of the falling out, Arin would've been 26 and Jon would've been 23. Age does not directly correlate to maturity or anything, but having a friend with a similar age difference, there's a handful of areas and subjects where we drastically differ in due to our lived experiences. And I feel like that probably had some role to play in the fall out. Arin's push for brand consistency and stability is probably due to his low income background with little promise beyond Animation. Jon had a lot ahead of him to experiment with and venture through. And in a similar perspective, you can kinda feel in those early videos how frustrated Arin gets with Jon. Like Arin would clearly get irritated and annoyed by some of Jon's antics, and it frequently felt like Arin had to be "the straight man" to Jon's "odd ball" persona in their dynamic, which does not lend well to Arin as a performer in my opinion. I think their separation as co-hosts was probably for the best in the bigger picture, despite how poorly Jon's departure went down.

For the love of god buy a pop filter.

It’s odd just how much history the channel has. It may have only been 10 years so far but its felt like 20

I feel like it's important to point out that when you were talking about video views per game grumps and Jon Tron, you only pointed out the number of views per video without addressing that Jon Tron uploads maybe 5 times per year. Whereas game grumps upload every day. So taking that into account, game grumps is getting twice the viewer count of Jon Tron. Personally i'm not partial to either Jon Tron or Game Grumps, I just wanted to say that statistics have to be viewed correctly.

The sheer amount of incredible music that came out of such a short period of time in the Jon era still blows my mind. There was plenty after too but few really captured the energy of the Jon era. I still listen to playlists occasionally

both jon and arin seem to be explosive personalities which are fun to watch but not good for a long term career. dan really is a good balance to arins explosive personality they just compliment each other so well while also sharing a lot of interests.

Interesting video, and nice documentation! But i do have to say its kinda weird to place Arin as an "angry overcontrolling boss" to Jon considering we dont know anything regarding they're personal lives at that time. The ending to the "the reason Jon left" segment is a bit too speculatory to be part of a documentary style video. (kinda sounded like you were making Jon out to be some sort of victim to Arin)

It's so crazy how this was made from someone under 1000 subs, like dude this is beyond professional stuff you're so underrated and can't wait to see more

NormalBoots members have very consistently claimed that Jon was already leaving the group for inactivity well before his controversy. Jon has also reiterated this at least twice, so I feel it's inaccurate to say otherwise.

As a fan of both, it's really weird that the video definitely vilifies Arin even though it goes out of its way to say it isn't. To your theory, Jon was hungover the morning of scheduled press events and they had a fight about priorities and split. How is the take-away that Arin was some sort of control freak obsessed with PR? It also isn't unreasonable and a good move, not just PR-wise, but ethically and morally to denounce Jon's racist remarks. To my memory, even that 'denouncement' was pretty luke-warm. I liked the video for its informative read through of the conspiracy grump posts and the editing was spectacular, but the editorializing became annoying and eventually straight up off-putting once it seemed to handwave Jon's split with multiple long-term friends/businesses as being impulsive and not a result of his consistent, objectively offensive, past remarks.🤷The video really shows a clear lean towards making Jon some sort of protagonist and ends up making the video as a whole seem to forgive these points.

i believe dan is a worthy successor to jon he does such a good job and is funny to boot

RIP TotalBiscuit. I got real sad seeing him again. :(

This really didnt need to be an hour long.

Actually insane how this is your first video essay. INCREDIBLE editing and work! Excited to see more! ❤️

This is the most reasonable and simplest explanation. Very well done video. I'm sure there are details that we will never know (like the specifics of their fights/arguments, etc), but it really does just seem like it was about a power struggle concerning the future of the grumps. Jon always wanted it as a chill side project, whereas Arin wanted to turn it into an empire. I'm sure there are some juicy details in there that are still unknown, but that appears to be what it was in a nutshell.

That opening was so dramatic i love it. I think my favorite style of youtube videos are longer investigative, documentary, or deep dive kind of stuff and i gotta say man this is like equal in quality to some of the bigger channels that i love. This was really good. You deserve a lot more subscribers.

Sometimes I rewatch the Jon era GG playlist, and if you do, you can kinda tell that Jon is way outside what he expected from the show. They constantly talk about how they sometimes frustrate each other over different things and how the situation when the camera was off wasnt always great. IMO the most likely thing to have happened is that Jon got burnt out. We see this from his main JT channel, he will go dark for a bit and come back for a bit: he seems to just get burnt out and likes to take his time. No shade, I have problems with mental health and motivation that would effect me similarly if I was a creator. (Not saying Jon has those problems) And if Arin was pushing so hard to make a huge network of channels and constantly making headaches for Jon (not saying Arin is wrong to capitalize, just saying that Jon would have seen it as an unnecessary inconvenience), I could see him reaching a tipping point where he just gets soured on the whole thing.

Can't believe this is your first video well done man. As someone who saw all this go down from outside the fandom this really did a good job walking people through what really happened. It was hard to piece it all together as it happened so this was really helpful and very entertaining. Just a very quick note tho. Your audio had some big pops in it in your voiceover a few times. It's a super small thing but your video was otherwise awesome ❤

If I had to make my guess before the reveal at the end, I'd of said Arin wanted to turn GameGrumps into a business, bring in more creators, it was a very good source of income and a dream come true for most people... while Jon wanted it to just stay a side thing they did for fun and not become a second job, perhaps leaving himself room to work on JonTron videos as well. But the conclusion in the video makes a lot of sense too, maybe a little of both.

Back when the split happened I made some snap judgments about the situation, being only about 16 years old at the time. Now that so many years have passed I can see both perspectives on the situation for sure. I only wish there had been a little more openness, but first and foremost I'm glad we got that year of content as I still go back to visit it regularly. Great video.

I adore your editing style and I think you've got so much potential as a creator with the theme you've chosen. I'd reccomend getting friends todo voices when reading out posts from Arin or Jon or whoever is in your video, similar to Inside A Mind if you've seen his videos. Are you working with premiere and after effects? and do you have any past YT projects? Overall amazing work dude, can't wait to see you grow even further!

I've been an Egoraptor fan since the early RU-vid days and immediately fell in love with Game Grumps. It's so strange to see everything that I lived through as a fan explained as if it were a series of historical events. I was always in the audience never a participant when it came to the conspiracies but this video has put me at peace with a longstanding question I've had at the back of my mind. I'd like to see more videos like this about the other Game Grumps related conspiracies to put them to rest, but this was the big one and it would be hard to find as much material and I imagine there would be less interest in things like the Suzy Etsy thing or the split with the Chris O'neil group.

Sometimes I miss the Jon era and hoped for more but times change and people move on. I’m grateful for all they have done.

Very insightful overview of the whole situation. Glad to see that for the most part it was simply creative differences between the two of them. One thing I'd recommend for your future videos; lay off the compression on your voice. It's gets incredibly loud especially in the lower frequencies and brings up a lot of the mouth noises like pops and clicks, which can be quite distracting. Great work!

In the end, I think GG would've died not long later if Jon had stayed. Watching old videos, there is a different feel with Jon that isn't really captured as it is with Danny. It feels a lot more relaxed, even in the real early episodes. I'm just curious, if Dan was really an "emergency replacement" like is said in the video, then is it possible that it would've cycled a little till they found the right fit. Is there an alternate universe where Ross or Barry is the replacement for Jon instead?

I swear, seeing the starcade footage of jon and arin reuniting brought legit tears to my eyes. it was such a good episode

It makes sense that Arin is concerned with the brand and puts it first because the brand and Arin are one in the same. Arin sticks to his values and doesn't compromise, and the brand reflects that. That's a good thing. It means you're in control of your own life and doing the opposite of selling out. So, what's good for the brand is good for Arin and vice-versa.

Ok please put the songs in the description, the song choice for all of these sections is actually sooo so so good like my god. It’s impressive keep it up

Phenomenal video. It's clear you did your research, and the way you built the story was great. This finally puts my near decade-long curiosity to rest, and I hope Arin and Jon take your video in the best way possible. I have nothing but love for Dan, Arin, Jon, and the rest of the Game Grumps crew, past and present. When you said this was your first video I could hardly believe it. Good stuff, and I look forward to seeing what else you make, even if it takes another year.

Seeing Ross and Holly in the same video (the StarCade reunion) made me go "eugh..." Brings back bad memories of watching that drama unfold.

Amazingly enough I've watched all your showreel videos before this popped up, but I'm here for your journey. You already know 90% of the audience for the other vids are people rewatching and enjoying the content of the other RU-vidrs, so I'll be that x10 for you. Keep up the great work, you're much more than just an editor. Long form content can often become rambly, but your way of transitioning from topic to topic and having a clear conclusion makes the video just feel so awe inspiring, you could talk about the evolution of elastic bands in socks and I'd be impressed an intrigued all the way through

Congratulations on this video, man. I know there are many similarly titled videos out there but this is the one. Very well researched and very well produced. The Johnny Cash documentary style intro cracked me up and the Jon Wins outro is a perfect selection. Also love the channel's nostalgic analog theming.

I find myself very old for the fact that I was on day one of Game Grumps, because I followed Egoraptor before it and I've seen the ups and downs of the show for a decade.... and the fact that a couple of friends of mine love Game Grumps and when I mentioned JonTron they were in shock yelling "JONTRON WAS A GAME GRUMP???" Oh, the age, it's hitting me hard XD

as someone who started watching GameGrumps when John was in, I had always wondered why this happened. I already had a hunch that it had all happened because of things that happened behind closed doors and away from the public eye. Its sad that they had to break apart like this, but they are both succeeding in their own separate careers at least. I definitely can say the dynamic Arin and Danny have is more fluent and they make amazing content together. Art is art at the end of the day and to those that are not part of creating it will always be left wondering why things happen, we are curious creatures after all. Loved the video! it was very well put, your channel definitely deserves more recognition considering you worked for over a year on this!! keep up the great work!

Great recap but not really a huge fan of how it seems to side with and praise Jon so much. Whenever there are blanks to fill in, Arin is framed as this image-obsessed control freak and the most charitable assumptions are made about Jon. The way you glossed over Jontron's Destiny debate is kind of odd too. You say that what Jon said is "reprehensible" but then suggest Arin flagrantly cuts ties with anyone who doesn't perfectly share his worldview. To be clear, Jontron suggested that black people are genetically predisposed to crime, non-whites are diluting the gene pool, and doubled down on these points at every opportunity. Of course Arin didn't want to deal with him anymore. It's not indicative of a character flaw that they weren't cool after that. Some people aren't going to want to look past their old friend being racist, brand image or not. Arin isn't the best person, but in trying to strengthen your argument that he's "brand obsessed" you unfortunately framed him as this cartoonishly evil villain that Jon vanquished by building a bigger RU-vid channel. Again, I was very impressed with the video and hope you don't take what I'm saying to heart too much. I read through some of your comments and understand a lot was cut out for time. The end result still paints a strange picture and left me with mixed feelings.

It's weird you make it sound like arin is the bad guy but it sounds like Jon just wanted to move game grumps to the side to do JonTron and arin didn't wanna be know as the new grounds guy I don't think there is a bad guy.

Actually love Danny taking over… he brought a more grounded feel to the show.

You KNOW a channel is good when it has a TV SHOW QUALITY INTRO. Amazing editing man. Big inspiration for what I wanna make in the future.

47:27 I think that is a bad comparison. While Egoraptor saying that type of words is in poor taste, Jontron saying "Mexican shouldn't enter enter the white gene pool" is on a complete different level. While the quote of Jontron saying "rich blacks commit more crimes than poor whites" get a lot of traction, I think it is not the worst thing he said during his talk with Destiny.

Long form content WITH captions? SUBBED! Can’t wait to see what else you do! Thank you for having captions seriously

The fact that this channel only has 256 subscribers is a genuine crime, glad your video got recommended! 💚

THIS IS YOUR FIRST VIDEO!!? mate i’m a new enough game grumps fan and didn’t even think i’d have much of an interest in this but you COMPLETELY hooked me??? this was so well made you have a genuine natural talent. this was amazing! :)

I'm about halfway through this video, I'm really appreciating the level of quality you gave to this. I was always a little left in the dark about Jon's departure, but you gave me a really nice viewpoint of why it happened. I do have to ask you though, do you have the list of music you used for the video? Its really good stuff!

This is your first video? That is absolutely mental. It's only up from here my friend, this was very well made and the research and quality alone was very impressive. Props to you.

ASTOUNDING work my man. What an emotional journey this video has taken me on. As someone who was a die-hard fan from the beginning and still watches them to this day, I feel like this is the best possible explanation without any further official statements. Even being the die-hard fan that I am I was even surprised at some stuff I didnt know in this video like Arin's dad getting involved! Your editing style really had me sucked in from the very beginning, one particular moment that really had me was when you brought up the miiverse censorship, since I was there for that and remember being really invested in the conspiracies but I also remember it not being fully proven 100% that it was actually censored? So until watching this video I thought it had remained an unsolved mystery! So satisfying for this to all be pretty much solved. The whole Destiny debate with Jon really ruined my perception of him so I've stopped supporting Jon ever since, but this video really made me miss their friendship, considering I've literally watched every Jon-era episode on the GG channel. Also ending it with one of the best GG remixes ever made was the cherry on top. Bravo! I must add, it's funny you used a clip from their Majora's Mask playthrough, because there's another potentially really telling clip you might find interesting. Part 44 of that same playthrough, the episode starts with Arin joking about Dan leaving the show, which leads Dan to ask: "What would you do if you just got a text from me one day saying I quit game grumps and then I never came back?" Normally a question like this would become just a playful bit, or a "what-if" scenario, but instead Arin's response sounds kind of bitter almost? Give it a watch. I could be looking into that tiny moment a bit too much, but that reaction would make a lot of sense if your theory was correct. That Jon impulsively moved to New York one day with no notice, which caused the Game Grumps twitter to tweet "Due to circumstances out of our control, we will be posting one episode a day", and then causing the abrupt change. 👀 Also also one more thing, I'm sorry but I can't stop myself from correcting this. Maybe my perception was wrong, but I got the idea that this video was implying that the Jon-era videos were getting millions of views and now at current day they're getting less views. I don't have proof, but I remember their ONLY video with anything even CLOSE to a million views back then was that one episode of Sonic 06 called "Oh No", and the rest of their videos I'm pretty sure rested at around 200k-500k views average??? (rough guess based solely off of memory) But obviously now everybody who's curious is gonna go see what the very first episode of game grumps was like which would put it at 3 million after the fact. Those videos have been up for 10 years so they've built up way more views now that GG is more successful. Sorry for the nitpick, really enjoyed this documentary!! Thanks for the great watch!

Incredible job, man. I think this has got to be the best video I've seen about this so far. Such a bizarre situation this was. I never did understand the NDA and why they were so weird about not discussing anything. It seems to me if nothing really happened, and it was just creative differences, then there's no reason to act like they did. I mean I get Arin just wanting to move on with Game Grumps and not dwell on Jon's absence since there wasn't much to be done about it either way. But why'd Jon keep saying he can't talk about it if it was always just creative differences? That was basically the story from the start, what about it can't he discuss? Always confused me. I'm sure the story probably is something as simple as you said but their handling of it was so poor that it just built the mystery up in everyone's heads. And that TotalBiscuit tweet still hasn't left my brain after all these years. "That shit is buried." Way too ominous.

It is extremely difficult to respectfully separate from someone whom you've (essentially) started a business with. It's like getting fired, your boss can be as respectful as possible in terminating you, but you still can't help but feel some form of contempt or even anger towards them. They probably did just have creative differences, Jon wanted to work on JonTron more and didn't want Game Grumps to take a more corporate approach, Arin wanted to expand the business. I have no doubt that they were (to some degree) very respectful with one another when they eventually came to the decision to separate, but contempt is had, rumors are spread, lies are told, and thus conspiracies form. On another note, while I definitely do not agree with Jon's moral/political views, I also don't necessarily agree with what Game Grumps has become either. I would love to see a similar video to this, only with the drama that happened between the Grumps and Ding Dong (a fellow content creator and friend of OneyNG) as there is definitely a lot to unpack there.

I just realized that game grumps was my refuge from other internet dramas a few years ago. I had heard Jon mentioned a few times, but never knew it went this deep. I’m actually super thankful for that. I don’t speak for anyone but myself, but it can be traumatizing when your safe escape, in whatever form it takes, has a radical change that’s outside of your control. That safety is damaged, sometimes irreparably. It happened to me with Rooster Teeth, then Achievement Hunter, hell even my favorite DnD creator at one point time got the Voldemort treatment. I say this to point out that “brand safety” can mean many different things to different people. For Arin, it was his livelihood, his dream even, and I don’t blame him for having trust issues with someone who was starting to threaten that. I think they made wise decisions handling it the way they did, even if it was far from ideal. Because Arin defended the brand, the channel was able to stay a safe place, among other things. I can’t watch RWBY vol 3 without crying, I can’t watch old Minecraft let’s plays with Ryan at all (again, that’s just me). How easily could Game Grumps have gone the same way? Instead, they went their separate ways and both ended up happy with where their content went. This is absolutely the good ending. TL;DR Arin’s decision to defend the GG brand also meant that it could remain a safe haven in the age of cancel culture. I just wanted to mention it because “brand safety” can mean so much more than corporate success.

Just wanted to say the editing at 44:48 for the reunion bit gave me chills. I think people really take music for granted in these sorts of videos and your choice here really set the tone for this bit. Absolute perfection. This entire video is a masterpiece and the immense time and effort really shows. Can't wait to see more from you!

It’s obvious you’ve put in a lot of effort in this. I love documentaries on internet drama, keep it up. It’s crazy how many cartoons that you showed that I was able to recognize. That was my childhood.

Hi Cassette! What a great video! Your voice at the end (and this long form video content) kinda reminded me of H Bomber Guy. I subbed after watching and I can’t wait to see your next video! I’m actually a big JonTronShow fan but I never knew he was once apart of game grumps! This was important internet lore that I had been missing out on! It was really interesting to watch. Great job!

Hey, Great video! but fyi there is some clipping on your audio recordings when you are narrating quotes from tweets with that noise filter on. I thought it was on my end but I switched headphones and turned off all post processing and still heard it. It happens at beginning of new words and on P's mostly. might just be an issue of adding a pop filter? Cheers

Man I remember being waist deep in all this stuff as it was happening. It was a pretty wild time and this was a nice summary of it. I thought it was great how you really didn't take sides against either party at any point and just told the story. One thing that makes me sad about this situation that I don't see people talk about a whole lot is that when Jon left Game Grumps, he seemed to split with Barry too. Those dudes were friends since high school, and whether Barry was part of the NDA too or what, he, to my knowledge, never talked about Jon again and never got that moment like Jon and Arin had on Starcade. I always wondered what happened between them because they were definitely bros well before all of this, right along with a bunch of other creators.

I think Arin screwed Jon out of half the Game Grumps brand. I remember Arin joking about Jon was "fartner" instead of partner in the contract.

Crazy how we still care about this "era" which lasted less than a year. They've been going 11 years without him now.

Im surprised you didnt mention that old recording of Arin and Suzy dropping N bombs in an old recording in the controversies part

Fantastic video. The editing is superb and the way everything was paced felt very professional. Also you actually managed to make this crazy story make sense! Beyond impressed.

What an amazing production. Amazing writing, editting, and story telling. Very excited to see future videos of all kinds!

This video is amazing. And the comment about Jon being genuinely happy with where he is now? I’ve MET Jon, and I gotta say, he is one of the funniest, nicest people I’ve ever encountered. And he honestly does seem, truly happy.

Excellent video! You had me hooked all the way through with the receipts and timeline of this break-up. Great editing and storytelling. The only thing left is for one or both parties to acknowledge this video somehow.

As a fan of both Game Grumps and JonTron: I think you leaned a bit too much into making out Jon as the proverbial "hero" of your video, and Arin as a "villain" in your conclusion. Protecting the brand is not necessarily a bad thing, and with how different the Internet became over the past 10 years, I think you're a bit biased towards portraying Jon as this starving artist who escaped the clutches of a megalomaniac, whereas I never got that impression: at least not from the facts as represented in the video. Your choice of words and some of the information you represented also seem to go in favour of JonTron from a more personal standpoint. That's pretty much my only pet peeve about your essay. All that being said, this, it was a fantastic video to watch! Comprehensive and to the point, I've seen a lot of gossip around this situation but never a solid, coherent timeline or a non-clickbaity take on it. You have my sub, and I hope it doesn't take you another year for another upload! (but if it does, I'll be patiently waiting because I know it will be worth it)

I've seen a lot about John's controversies, so I was expecting more of a jab at John. It really does seem to just be creative differences and a falling out between friends/co-workers. Thank you for the video!

Wow, this is exceptionally well-produced. This video should have way more views. Very well done, Cassette!

This was such an amazing video! Every aspect of it. I basically just gave up thinking about any reasons why Jon left so this was like some nice long overdue closure. I have to know though, what was that song with Jon's voice that played at the end of the video?

This is so fascinating, as someone who started watching the show since Dan joined. I'm glad that Arin and Jon seem to have found some peace between themselves several years down the line.

Very interesting video! Although we might never know what really happened between them, I'm glad we can at least get pretty close. I'm one of those fans that actually preferred Danny over Jon from the beginning, so while I never really cared enough to go too deep into this, I was interested in what happened and I'm glad there are videos like this.

This is an awesome watch. My only small issue is with the VO sound, you need slightly more mid range, other than that... perfection.

This was beautifully done! You have such a talent! The music, the clips, the content, it all flowed together so wonderfully!

That sonic 06 tweet Jon did was fucking legendary.

Very well put together video. You brought a tear of nostalgia out of me. Looking forward to seeing more of your work as your channel grows! ❤️‍🔥

Flabbergasted at the fact this is your very first upload! Cannot wait to see more high quality content like yours in a near future!

This is the best and most comprehensive video I’ve seen on this topic. 14 year old me would be thrilled. Playing that remix at the end sent me to the nostalgia zone.

Amazing work! This vid has the quality of the top guys like SunnyV2, it was so well put together!