The Reds Just THREW Their Manager Under The Bus 

This is why I love Mike Hazen. When the Diamondbacks had their dreadful 2021 season, Hazen didn’t fire Torey Lovullo. Instead he openly said that it was his fault for not giving Torey the tools to succeed.

as a reds fan, it’s both of the front office and bell.

Of course Bell has to ride the train to Scapegoat City... blaming the manager for bad personnel decisions/players underperforming is ALWAYS the decision

As a Phillies fan, yes a manger can have a huge impact on the team. 2022 girand got fire after a 22-29 start. Rob Thompson 65 wins and the last wildcard and a magical run to the World Series. Since Thompson got the manger role, the Phillies been to a World Series, 2 nlcs, 3 playoff appearances and a nl east title. Bell been with the reds for 6 years, nothing great, it time to more on

they could have let him finish the season, at least. that being said, he's had six seasons at the helm, and they've never really done anything under his watch despite having a pretty solid amount of talent for most of his tenure. he doesn't really seem to have any talent as a manager other than throwing temper tantrums at the umpires. although I agree that managers don't make a whole lot of difference in this day and age, I think it's time for a new voice in charge of this clubhouse.

I like how you cut through the bullshit. Keep up the good work.

I disagree with you. Bell was way too easygoing and only seemed to have a personality when he was getting ejected. He has been the manager for like 5 seasons. How is that a quick hook? He made 1 post-season appearance and scored 0 runs and they had good players on that team. The offense always sucks, even the good players. You have all these young guys and he just doesn't seem like the right guy to teach them and make them better. This is a good move.

Its possible that they didn't fire him because of his actual managering but because he lost the players respect. Usually this is why managers get fired, unless their managing has been consistently terrible So yankee fans this is why boone still has his job. The players like him. He sticks up for them and has their back. His "chess moves" aren't great but thats less important. A manager needs to have the player respect

I mean will yes the mariners are still last in the league in Batting average and strikeouts, but since the firing of their manager they've gone from below league average wrc+ at like 92 to league average wrc+ of 100

Managers are told what to do

Rip Oakland A’s

The Mariners did start winning after Servais was fired, and since then their offense is significantly above average. Best offense in the American league in September. And previously they were the 2nd worst in baseball. So yeah, I think getting new coaching made a difference.

Something else to keep in mind is that the Reds had a poor record in one-run games. As of today their Pythag is 80-77, so they may not have to improve as much as their record this year suggests. I don't know anyone on the roster besides De La Cruz so I can't tell you what they should shore up, but they should still have pieces for a contender. I don't expect them to fall off like the White Sox or anything.

As a Reds fan it's Big Bob Castellini and Bell. He was really bad about a guy having a big day and the next day he'd be out of the lineup. Zero continuity day to day. Look at the last 2 Nick Martinez starts. 6 innings pitched 78ish pitches... he comes out and the bull pen blows up. Just a small example, but it's every single little thing.

As a person who lives and was born in cincy in my opinion he didn’t need to get fired but he wasn’t really helping us that much either he was just kind of doing the bare minimum

If you watched this team, every game, for the last several years, you'd definitely have a different opinion !! His ridiculous lefty vs righty / righty vs lefty obsession.... Using pinch-runners for the starters in the 5th and 6th innings???? Knowing he hasn't had the best bull-pen, takes the starters out in 5th and 6th innings after 75-80 pitches only to watch relievers give up run after run.. game after game after game.. He is a terrible major league manager.. Never caught on to the play your best players-- win at all cost mentality that a real major league mgr needs to have.. He would be a Great high school mgr and would make all the parents happy that their 3rd string players got equal playing time as the stars... He's a nice guy.. but terrible manager!!

Baseball has leadership that is the LEAST effective towards "on field" play...of all the major sports....if you're considered an ELITE manager and future hall of famer....the "powers that be" say that manager can add about 4-5 wins. That's not AMAZING numbers. Could be the difference between a .500 team and a sub .500 team...or a team getting to the postseason instead of barely missing them...but not much else.

he should not have received an extension. We need a manager that can make an impact

I'm from Cincinnati so I might have a little more feelings about this than others but you didn't say anything about their terrible defense and you didn't give them credit for their pitching it's a lot better than you think not to mention a positive run differential and they might win 80 games this year

Reds Pythagorean Win Loss record is 80-77. This statistic only means anything when it's this far apart from their actual record. 76-81. Makes them look like underachievers.

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You also can't make this argument when their record vs winning teams is above 500 and their record vs losing teams is sub 500. They don't lack talent, even with all the injuries, they lack leadership. If it was talent they wouldn't have won season series with every team still in the playoff picture ( minus Milwaukee).

Bro didn’t even mentioned Steer

A Good Manager has A very strong impact on their team Especially a young talented team like The Reds Bad managers have negative impacts and are always sub .500 like Bell .

I’m holding my breath sorry

Ehhh, I think hes partly to blame. Theres definitely plenty of that to go around to other people but I dont think they 'threw bell under the bus'. the team underperformed.

Manager getting fired after a disappointing season is nothing new. The manager always takes all the blame

You cant fire owners. Only change you can make is Manager or NK. Owners are cursed.

same shit happened with Buck

Over the past year the angriest and coincidentally most delusional Reds fans have only had three things to say: Bell sucks as a manager; Joey Votto sucks, and Jonathan India sucks. So Reds management reacted to get these whiners and losers back in the fold- they did not offer a deal for Votto to retire as a Red and they fired Bell. Band aids. It wouldn't surprise me if they didn't come up with some lame trade involving India for the trifecta, because you know this is the age of the internet and the "angry" fans seem to rule even when they are idiots. If the Castellinis are really that concerned about public opinion maybe they should invest in making the team a little more injury proof.

Somebody needed to. I know he was short handed all year but my high school team is better fundamentally and that comes from the top. It was time for him to go and they gave him 6 years and he did nothing Go Reds!!

Please don't uses injuries as an excuses for having a bad season. Look at the Brewers they ran away with the NL Central. Of course none of teams in that division should scare you. Milwaukee has used 16 pitchers this season. They lost Woodard, Milley, Gassear to season ending injuries. Hopefully the Brewers can make it to the NLCS and take on LA.

It’s a poor move by the reds. Using the coach as a scapegoat for why your team was bad. He wasn’t a bad coach and nobody really expected the reds to make the playoffs m. It’s just a head scratching move to me.

No, they should have tossed Bell last yr. We have all this young talent and Bell hasn’t got anything above out of them. They’re just regular Good Managers put their players in positions to succeed Bell is a turd If they make the right hire The REDS will at the very least be above .500 and in the playoffs or in the mix & very close Bell has them under .500 the whole time The should have fired Bell after last season when he let Votto come in and kill all the momentum the young team had going. He handled that terribly BELL GOTTA GO . BYE ✌️

The Cubs were worse.

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