The Return of The Phoenix Force (Avengers vs X-Men Vol 1: Hope Summers) 

Ever notice when a character becomes corrupted and become a bad guy the way they talk is always changed to resemble that of some evil king? "I can't stand it any more" becomes "I can tolerate it no longer!". Is there some supernatural being out there in charge of downloading eloquent speech patterns into evil leader heads?

cyclops trying to look like Nightwing with his suit when he has the phoenix force. 😂

Cyclops was right. Avengers were just mad they weren't on top. The xmen improved everyone's lives on the planet. The avengers keep the status quo and protect Manhattan

Cyclops was the good guy in this. When cyclops got the Phoenix power he helped people. Cyclops with the Phoenix power stopped world hunger by given water and food where there was none. Cyclops was going to make sure there was no more earthquakes. Cyclops gave endless energy to people so humans could build things as long as it wasn't weapons of death. Cyclops went to the world leaders stated he was going to do much more and in the end all he wanted was peace.

X-Men vs Avengers..without Thor!? That's like Hulk vs a child. 21:15 Cyclops looks SO fucking cool!

Cyclop was right in my opinion they been through hell and back, saved the world a couple of times. But humanity still put walls in front of them, hated them, hunted them, and feared them. They looked the other way and still chose to save humanity because it was the right thing to do. Now here comes Captain America, he may be the the first ever superhero, but he wasn't there when the X-men needed him the most. Where was he when they were hunted, killed or put restrictions on them? Also where was Tony when the mutant started losing everything? I love Cap and Stark and but i love the X-men more and they really needed a way to bring back the mutant race from extinction after house of M.

16:40 "Every time he says 'old friend", he really saying 'F*** you, Magneto!' " -The Key of Awesome

"This isn't peace, this is fear" -Captain America in The Winter Soldier. That's the quote that I thought of when I saw how the Phoenix Five were *helping* the world, they may have good intentions but so does Doctor Doom and the MCU version of Thanos yet we still see those two as bad guys

House of M X-Men: Endangered Species X-Men: Messiah Complex X-Force\Cable:Messiah WAR Avengers * X-Men: Utopia X-Men: Nation X X-Men: Second Coming X-Men: Second Coming "Revelations" X-Men: Prelude to Schism X-Men: Schism AVENGERS VS X-MEN Civil War. That's the order I read and it's incredible. Tell that to egoraptor.

The X-Men don't deserve the slow, painful, messy death that Marvel has put them through. I get that Fox really dropped the ball with that license but X-Men as a whole has been good to Marvel over the years and now they've just been torn apart. It's ridiculous and shameful. And just one more reason that Marvel has fallen off hard

The godlike power to manifest a 4k TV out of nothing... Big dreamer there, Rob

I like me some Captain America but this was some bullcrap on his part. Cyclops was 100% in the right during this event and the Avengers were agressive and dickish to them from panel one in this story. The Phoenix 5 were fixing all of the world's problems and all the Avengers could do was whine about how much power they had and what would go wrong. #Cyclopswasright

Anyone else finding bullshit how Tony has a machine to disrupt some force out of nowhere? Hulk goes World Breaker, wasnt even stopped by the sentry but satellite beam takes him out in his STRONGEST INCARNATION. Then Tony makes some shit that is powerful enough to split the phoenix force......Like what?

What I didn’t care for with The Avengers is that they showed up and ordered them to hand her over- they came to fight. They didn’t trust those who had experience with The Phoenix and came across like superhero police abusing their power and position. There’s no understanding of it, they just want to hit it. Scott was on a path to becoming a villain but he had proper prompting and help from the outside world. And worst, there was no remorse on behalf of The Avengers once all was said and done that The Phoenix, once in the hands of Hope, WASN’T A THREAT!! Stark breaks it apart before it made it to hope- they created an even bigger problem because fear clouded good judgement. Also, Hope was brought up by Cable and I believe she was therefore much more mentally equipped than Jean. Also, she’s a part of the force- there was all of these assumptions made about Hope and mutants without involving mutants until it was time to deal with them.

Pretty sure Magneto vs Iron Man wouldn't last too long. Or end very well for Tony Stark lol.

You have god-like powers and use it to manifest a 4k TV - mad respect.

Marvel is trying to kill the xmen for years, I found that weird since the xmen is their best IP, and lets not forget how the xmen saved marvel from dying in the 90s

Good to see support to Cyclops, i think that if the phoenix 5 would have not been pushed(seriously, would you poke someone with anger issues[phoenix' implicit instability] and say it's their fault?), good things could have come out, as Reed Richards pointed out to cap and tony. As Coates portrayed on the latest volume of black panther, both sides can't be right and can't be worng, and as long you don't sit to talk and make a point that integrate the best of both you are doomed to fight instead of growing.

Ooooh this is great. You're really covering all the older stuff again. Thanks ✊🏽

Lol Tony stark jumping at Magneto....how

I like that Cyclops character has developed into what it has over over the years

I want to thank you. Your explanation of comics gave me back the passion become a more avid reader at 38! The way you explain comics with the intensity you do is awesome!

Cyclops got screwed over thanks to stupid AVX crap

Cyclops was right.. Iron Man, not so much.

Just to clarify the Avengers were weary of the Phoenix Five because they’ve seen first hand just how corruptive the Phoenix Force can be but they only started getting hostile with them after Namor attacked Wakanda so the Avengers were not unjustified in this story

I actually really loved this story when I read it and I normally love Robs explanations but he missed such great parts in this explanation, I know there's a lot of story to fit into two videos but he focused on Phoenix force rather than the story, that's my opinion anyway.

Sweet Thanks Rob! I've been asking for this video forever!

Another great video..I was obsessed with all the different variant covers for this series, what great artists.

the phoenix has NO reason to fear scarlet witch. even if she said no more mutants again. the phoenix isn't a mutant and basically do what it wants which could be making someone a mutant or even resetting reality even after scarlet wich says no more mutants. lol

That was a great breakdown! 👏👏👏👍

Thank You for doing AvX by far one of my favorite modern storylines.

dude I love when you do anything that is X-Men

your videos are easy to understand and very well explained. i can't believe it took me this long to subscribe...... now i gotta go back and re-watch most of your videos..... ROBCORE MARATHOOOOOOOON!!! you need to have a booth at every comicon!!!!!!!!

marvel heel turned cyclops so bad. Rob!!! you got to point that out man.

Scarlet Witch (House of M) vs Dark Phoenix (Jean Grey)

can't wait for the second part, love the channel bro been subscribed for awhile and love the content!!

X-Men 2nd coming got me back into comics , keep up the good work !

Brilliant as always!

Can I ask a question? Why did you leave out the part of the story where the Phoenix 5 solve the majority of HUMANITIES problems while also creating their Utopia? To me this was a significant part of the story because the Phoenix 5 were legitimately making the world a much better place with their powers and you only commented on what they did for themselves. And when you remove that context it makes some later actions seem much less justifiable than I think they are. Just curious and would like a response please.

i feel like when rob is about to record the next video in one of the stories that hes been saying hes going to do for ages but then sees a new story then gets really excited and decides to cover that instead

Really dig the longer vids rob

This is great. Really hoping you do more X-Men stuff. Especially Morrison's New X-Men, I'm having a hard time finding good reviews/coverage of that.

Avengers Vs X-men was one of the things that got me into comics. I was looking to dive into comics and all i knew was i had to have some X-Men and this storyline had just finished. Not to mention the Avengers movie hype was still very real so this felt like the right thing to do. I ended up buying the whole run in single issues off a guy who overheard me asking about it in a comic shop by my job and i regret nothing.

I loved this!

Cyclops looking fly with that Phoenix force

In this story Cyclops was the hero that Captain America never could be.

Colossus is powerful on his own, then he got juggernauts powers, and then he also got a fifth of the Phoenix force?? Come on man, that's too op

Rob, you should do some classic stuff some time. Dark Phoenix, Inferno, all the things us old timers grew up on. Even if it's just a fast fun video. keep up the good work!

Thanks Rob!

Love this

@8:22 and Cyclops is RIGHT again Rob...no matter how much some people wanted to say he wasn't...Cyclops IS RIGHT in NEARLY EVERY SINGLE PANEL in the whole event...this was Marvel trying to kill off the Xmen because of Fox, and it backfired so amazingly it hurts.... @9:10 Polverine was just a traitor of convenience. HE was the most popular Xmen of the time, so Marvel had to save his ass somehow...

Dark Phoenix was stated up in Marvel series 2 cards in the 90s. I always assumed this reflected the stats of the Phoenix force hindered by a physical body. Still strong enough to lay down the Xmen of the 90s, but not Galactus level. She could life over 100 tons, travel speed of light, standard human agility, stamina equal to about a week or so at max, durability equal to Thor and Hulk (below Silver Surfer), above normal IQ, highest level mental abilities and highest level energy projection (that the stat allowed) and decent fighting ability equal to a soldier/ninja. Years later it seems once they dove more into the Phoenix as an entity without a host, she challenged players like Galactus and better.

Xavier and Cyclops died during this event... RIP. Also Cyclops was right..

Thanks for doing this...

Great video man! A vs X was great I can't wait for part 2. Are you going to do an all-new x-men video? Keep up the great videos man

Thinks Rob I been waiting for you to cover AvX

I read this story already. But I watched this anyway. I love to hear you read it to me like bedtime story lol

Utopia was the leftover wreckage of Magneto's Astroid M. That, combined with Cyclops uniting almost the entirely of the mutant race, is why Magneto decided to follow his leadership

Thank you Rob!!! Man from Messiah Complex to maybe Uncanny X-Men Vol. 6 is my favorite X-men stretch. I miss the days when Hope was just character development for Cable instead of being a total Mary Sue.

I'm curious as to what the "thumbs down"s are for. Not sure what is bad about this video. This guy did an excellent job

would love to see you guys do some what if videos on what you think would happen with things being different

this would not have happened if they had listened to Scott.

Thanks for covering Avengers verses X-Men.

The phoenix force don't just represent life, it also represents destruction.

Phoenix 5 vs Jackson 5. Make it happen, Rob. ~_~

YES! Thanks, Rob!

Love this. Just read ma first AvX. Cheers mate. Peace ✌

I can't stand that Wolverine is on the New Avengers.

I love how the comics shows you that none of them needs oxygen on the moon. Pretty cool abilities they all gained.

“Hey game grumps, love me, please love me” Dude.

Dude! I already read the story I own all the trades but I love you reading it I love you explaining it I love this video I cannot wait for part 2

it was good to see DD in this event

Can we get a video about how the MCU would bring in Namor?? I think it would be a good idea to introduce him in the second Black Panther movie. He can be the antagonist for that film that rolls into his own movie. Plus those are my two favorite comic book characters...

Cyclops is wearing an itty bitty bikini bottom @17:18 and I can’t get the image out of my mind!

Love this series! I went crazy collecting the variants 1:200 versions of the comics! Do more Phoenix content!

12:54 Last Stand you say? A video about X-Men...Oh God!!! I'm having flashbacks to 2006

i hated this story, it single handedly made me quit marvel, it was worse than whar they did to Spider-Man and mj.. the Phoenix five was doing tons of benevolent things across the world and the avengers keep prodding them. i literally just started back trying to read marvel.

Hope was never a necessary character. They already had Rachel Summers. Remember her? The one that the Phoenix itself said is "the one true phoenix." ? The one who beat down Galactus like a red headed stepchild? Yeah, it's like that. (Excalibur #61) All they needed to do was have Rachel manifest the Phoenix force in front of the Avengers, and then they go "Oh Shit. She could be the next Dark Phoenix" And there you go.

I would of preferred if the Xmen won. Of course marvel would want the avengers to win though.

Man do you realize how iconic your voice is to me?

my favorite Marvel arc, by far

Damn they wrote wolverine pretty lame. he is a traitor

I freaking love you Rob!!!

Jean was actually Xavier's first student

please do Fear itself!

you should cover the AvX what-if Rob. It was pretty funky lol

i loved this story!!!!

I could see this being a movie now because of the fox deal, and the X Men Dark Pheonix movie coming out. Damn, Marvel is about to become more interesting in the years to come.

Gratz to 1m subs you deserve it #Robcore

For some reason i thought of this video after I watched Iron First season 2. As soon as they presented the idea that the power of the fist can be transfered all i could hear was Rob saying "Absolute power corrupts absolutely"

13th great Vid man I love this story line 🙂🙃

Pls make a video about the actual Phoenix Force, What it is capable of and What it represents etc.

Make sure to show the panel of Cyclops materializing his suit like a Power Ranger

Now you need to make part 2

Rob: have you done a video on dark reign/ dark avengers basically the fallout after secret invasion??

awesome snake eater clip xD

X.men ar most powerful than these simple avengers

#cyclopswasright I love that you are doing xmen, I agree with cyclops, at the time the avengers never did anything to gel alleviate the hatred towards mutants

#robpcore quick question maybe you can do a video on Colossus possessing the Phoenix power vs the Hulk and a hand-to-hand battle?

I love this run