Not a magician but amazed at how good this looks even when you see how it’s done. From over the shoulder you’re not fooled but from in from it looks incredibly real. Nice work
Great! Would be extremely cool if you would also explain, how you hide the coin in your right hand after you‘ve finished the move. When showing the left hand „empty“ it‘s clear that all the heat is on the right hand.
I was wondering about that too. In the Intro, the final move of the trick he vanishes the coin then he shows both hands empty! I wish he would explain how he did that.
This is a great, subtle variation Rick. I use your rolling retention all the time to add a little variety to routines. I am guilty of…not so much exaggerating the movements, but allowing the coin to actually release from my fingertips for a fraction of an inch. This gives a nice illusion in the mirror, but sacrifices a lot of control and is an 8 out of 10 success for me. I like this smartly named, and beautifully executed Rick Roll Retention much better. It is really kind of you to share it.
Magic hands for real! I knew what you were doing only because you told me. I never saw a thing through your entire demonstration, "jaw dropping, "Rick you should have been a Doctor, I had a gallstone removed by a doctor with hands like a plumber! Thanks for the fun!👍👍🖐👉✊🖐
Best thing ever Rick. I lost my phone and didn’t have a new one for 4 weeks. Forgot my password, but thank goodness I have resigned with you. You are the total work. Thanks a billion.
This looks so good and casual. I might be way off but I could see using this to "put" a coin under an object like a playing card for a matrix or even under a phone. Hell maybe the recessed bottom of a beer mug at a bar. The built in action just seems to welcome the back of the hand to touch a table and imply casualness. "I'm just rolling a coin out of my hand and it can land wherever." I think this is really good and I'm excited about it in case you can't tell haha.
@justindeschain2532. That's a great idea. Yes. Because the coin never really rolls and is under the control of the retention hand, you could use a card or coffee mug just as the closing fingers like a screen. Great thinking. If you just pretend to place it causally under the card or phone as your pattering you got the one ahead method right off the bat. Excellent thanks
This is such a clean and natural looking Vanish! Will be adding this to my existing routines. Thanks for sharing this with the magic community. Love it!
Rick with the banger! crazy how you can make such a classic so much better and give it away! The rick roll retention is going down in the books as one the greatest coin vanishes. well done!
I agree with many of f the comments. I want to thank you for sharing this with us too. On another note, though I enjoy the way you demonstrate your creativity, I would love to see it in some real world practice.
Man that’s smooth! Talking about why it works I think ties into your first point is our eyes fool us. It looks like the coin is actually rolling across your fingers so our mind just comes to that natural conclusion that it just rolls into the hand. Man. This is so good. Great example of not to practice until you get it right. Practice until you can’t mess it up.
I too have been performing the retention vantage for around 30 years and have never seen this particular vanish. This is a brilliant advantage. It looks so good. Thanks for showing this as I have to do a performance in Toronto for 30 minutes at the international Magic convention this summer.
Rick!! This is Fantastic, thank you for such a great contribution. The extreme tilt of the hold out hand and the glimmer flash make it very unique and natural. I love that there's no hand washing or complicated turning of the body. WOW. I watched it more than 10 times before looking at the tutorial and still couldn't really pin it down. The subtle transfer back to the other hand to show both hands empty blew me away. So clean.
The explanation about why it is a convincing move, was very kind and useful. The "why" something works (psych loopholes, visual retentions, etc.) is fascinating to learn, explore, and exploit!
Seeing this on my suggestions was the best part of my day 😂 And as someone that very much was too focused on the "roll" in the first iteration, thank you for the clarification!
@RickHolcombe hey Rick.... question please... what is the best way to incorporate this move as I am counting several coins from one hand to another so as to make it all appear to be seamless?
If you want to hold one of them back, I would do the move on the last coin counted. Then, get the sou d element from the coins already in the other hand.
@RickHolcombe so what I am working on doing is... I have 3 Morgan Silver Dollars. I am holding them in my Right Hand and am Rolling each One over my Index Finger, onto my left palm, with the left fingers slightly curled up. After I flip the 1st Coin over, I then flip the 2nd Coin over and as it is being flipped, I catch it with my middle finger, so as to retain it. Then as I flip the last Coin onto my hand, I then pull the retained Coin back into my hand so as to Palm it. Is that what I understood you to suggest please?
Mr. Rick, your teaching method is just perfection 🎉 Thank You for helping me figure this long unanswered question. Now it’s back to my mirror audience of one, ME, and practice forever 😅
Just saw this posted on the cafe... superb work Rick! The retention on this is great. Been playing around with it and there's also the possibility of the right hand doing a third movement after the coin is displayed in the left hand where first finger against the coin edge retracts slightly rolling it on the second finger creating a final sense of movement off the fingers into the hand as it closes over. It is interesting how extreme the positioining of the coin can get on the second finger whilst still being under control of the right hand.
Oh wow! Excellently done. I read/seen this method before, but never considered it. It definitely has more pow! Than the retention vanish. Nicely done 👍
This is a superb vanish and you are very very smooth so it. I appreciate the detail you go into and even explaining the ‘why it looks good’. Exceptional!
Your explanations were excellent, your various camera angles utilized in displaying this trick were superb. Thank you you for sharing this brilliant trick. I’m now subscribed.
Not sure if Schneider's snap back preceded Mickey Silver's retention, but if so, Silver perfected the technique of retaining it. I would still say Mickey's retention is the best BUT I think your rolling vanish (which I marveled at three years ago) is every bit as good....and ORIGINAL. You have a lot to be proud of with this one, Rick. Btw, I'm not sure how you showed the dirty hand to be clean at the very beginning, but again, kudos!
Thanks for the kind words! Schnieder predated Mickey Silver by a loooong time. Mickey Silver vanish looks very similar to a Ken Krenzel idea published in Apocalypse volume 1, but I don't know if that's where he was inspired from.
Judging by the pic on his 1975 "Schneider On Coins", he looked to be in his mid-late 20's. Add 48 years and that would put him to be in his mid 70's or so. Mickey (Michael Sweeney), although in the carpet cleaning business for many years is also in his early-mid 70's, although he lies about his age. Not sure if Mickey was doing magic while in the carpet business, but probably. The question is who he borrowed from. Perhaps Krenzel. One thing I find interesting about Mickey's retention is how he conditions the audience to accept how he holds his dirty hand after the vanish. It's really a shame that he refuses to do a tutorial. You must feel incredibly proud to have originated the rolling retention. It's so awesome. @@RickHolcombe
Amateur here (doing coin tricks for about 2 weeks). I really like that you mentioned how the light influences where we last perceived the coin. Due to this, I make sure to add a little extra twist to catch the light. With that glimmer and with giving the coin a slight look of it being tossed into the hand, it's amazing how fluid and deceptive even a beginner like myself can make this one look. I can't wait to show this one off. ❤the name, Rick Roll. Perfect! 😁
Wowie, this looks really clean and fooling. Pretty cool. Just found out about your channel today(video was recomended) and i like you already. Hope to see more of ye.
Thanks for stopping by, my friend. I'll be posting on a regular schedule now. Really useable, easy to do coin magic. Theres also my older videos to browse through.
Going to learn this. The regular retention vanish is Ok, but I feel it's too far into finger palm position. This looks better because it does look more like it's barely held by the fingers and in view and can catch the light more. Awesome 👌
Great video. My own retention makes also use of the Al Schneider inspired usage of the middlefinger rest position.. I think I may add your Rick Roll Retention into my repertoire. I love the Name because of the meme. Keep on creating
Coin magic was my love of illusion . I sadly broke a finger in a fall some years back and avoided watching these tutorials as it makes me sad i can't have the dexterity i once had. None the less ive compensated with playing cards. I ❤ magic
If he makes it disappear from the right hand at the end why should we believe he needs trickery to make it disappear from the left hand? He's pulling our legs 😂
Technical question: In your second pass in the introductory material (before you start talking, 0:26), you do the Rick Roll retention vanish and then immediately show your right hand empty. Where is coin?. On back of your right fingers? How do you get it there so naturally? As I said, absolutely brilliant!
I learned the retention vanish from David Roth and have been using it for years but I do like this vanish because you can actually see it touch your hand. I was thinking if you target the ring and the clink reinforces the placement of the coin for the spectator. ❤️
