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The Rise and Fall of Command & Conquer [REDUX] | Documentary 

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What is this Redux and why did we make it?
First off, I'd like to thank Plokite_Wolf and Cypher for helping us revise and rectify some of the errors and expanding on the information of our first script. After having published our first 'version' of the video, it was brought to our attention that some of the information provided was either incorrect or needed to be elaborated on. I regret the fact that this has happened, as fans of the series we wanted to make a franchise analysis that takes the viewer through the highs and lows of the series as well as tell the stories of the developers at EALA and Westwood in detail. Making a documentary-style video about Command & Conquer has, personally, been one of my long-time goals but I didn't feel that it was fully achieved in our first video. The story of Command & Conquer is very nuanced and the Redux, or Revision or V2 (whatever you like to call it) seeks to tell this more accurately, with 10+ minutes of additional information I feel like this is a much more interesting video for fans of the series.
Sorry to those of you who were waiting on a new video, our regular content schedule will resume now and I hope to have a new (exciting) video online next week! :)
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Among games that have defined the Real-Time Strategy genre, Command & Conquer is seen as one of the most influential titles. The C&C franchise, along with Warcraft and Starcraft, shaped the identity of RTS games during the '90s and would influence the designs of countless similar strategy titles in later years. Even though the franchise ended with a whimper instead of a bang, it managed to create an indelible impact on the history of videogames. Join us as we take a look at the rise and fall of Command & Conquer.
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Script revision by Plokite_Wolf
Additional revision by Cypher
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www.cncsaga.com/
incompetech.com/
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@BrewersPackers
@BrewersPackers 6 лет назад
Here's the short version. Rise = Westwood Studios Fall = EA
@asmongoldsmouth9839
@asmongoldsmouth9839 6 лет назад
I enjoyed titles under Westwood such as Red Alert, Nox, C&C etc. However, C&C: Generals was probably my favorite updated RTS game. I still play Tiberian Sun, RA, Nox and other Westwood games but EA only fucked up (imho) in the later 2000's. Their NHL for PC series was great, NFS series up until Undercover, RTS games entirely were good. Tiberium Wars was the last RTS series from EA. So I think they ended on a good note. Just my 2 cents. We can't expect zero evolution in the gaming industry. Popular or not, changes help revolutionize future games.
@v11cu96
@v11cu96 6 лет назад
As much as I detest EA now, you have to give them Props for Generals, C&C3, and RA3, those were all solid games ,(better than their predecessors in some respects). They blew it with C&C4, Generals 2, Rivals etc. Basically - since Red alert 3 they have just gone from one disaster to the next. The difference is in their objectives, from 2000-2008 they were trying hard to make C&C something to beat Blizzard over the head with. but from 2008-present they have just tried to make C&C into micro transaction software.
@Mantis_Toboggan_TrashMan
@Mantis_Toboggan_TrashMan 6 лет назад
It's sad because EA wasn't always as bad as they are today. You can tell when EA went full well EA that's what we call command and conquer 4. What the fuck were they thinking? Maybe since Microsoft is coming back with Halo wars and Age of empires it will encourage them to bring command and conquer back. The real command and conquer but the team is gone so.
@cheemsdoge
@cheemsdoge 6 лет назад
BrewersPackers It always falls with EA
@s.m.2523
@s.m.2523 6 лет назад
Nevermind the fact that C&C Tiberian dawn and Red Alert 2, those game oh so often tauted as the height of the series, while develloped by Westwood when they already were under EA and the additional reason is certainely the reason why they were as big as they were (and for the time they were).Or that plenty of people think C&C3 was plenty good (RA 3, that one is way more divided and for godo reason) Honnestly, I understand the feeling, and certainely the way Westwood like many good studios under Ea was disolved and saw the frnachise they popularized bastardized annoys me, but in truth the rise of fall more has to do with EA and let's be honnest the entire video game industry itself changing into what is well.. a huge mass industriy and the whole AAA.
@EvoSwatch
@EvoSwatch 7 лет назад
RA2 was my Childhood, and i still play it to this day, its a shame that the C&C Community is a shadow of its former self
@mischaprudon3316
@mischaprudon3316 7 лет назад
That Person there are still the mods like rise of the reds / shockwave / etc
@EvoSwatch
@EvoSwatch 7 лет назад
yeah i know, but its still not the same as it used to
@mischaprudon3316
@mischaprudon3316 7 лет назад
That Person true but it's still awesome that people make mods and good ones.
@mischaprudon3316
@mischaprudon3316 7 лет назад
***** what's it about?
@saratov99
@saratov99 7 лет назад
You don't deserve to be sad. Some of us are fans since Dune 2 !
@TheGameRoomStudio
@TheGameRoomStudio 7 лет назад
Your videos are real professional work!
@aidenpearce4350
@aidenpearce4350 3 года назад
And yours too!!! I’m one of your fans
@fc-rq2bi
@fc-rq2bi 2 года назад
ว้าว​ 4ปีที่แล้ว
@PyrrhosDauvet
@PyrrhosDauvet 7 лет назад
The thing I remember in Renegade was the ability to launch nukes or ion cannon strike, and the ability to use classic c&c vehicles.
@Zarthaur
@Zarthaur 7 лет назад
The renegade multiplayer was amazing ...still got hacked by a salty kid when i was young playing that game just wish I could play the multiplayer again...
@CassiusLangeAuthor
@CassiusLangeAuthor 7 лет назад
Leave it to EA to kill off the studio that would have brought us many more great strategy games. GG
@Kevooi
@Kevooi 6 лет назад
Leave it to a relatively freshly corporate-oriented gaming industry to focus on monetizing and mass appeal over focus, attention to detail, quality and healthy growth of a franchise. That's literally the issue with gaming in general right now, not just EA. As studios are bought up in droves by publishers who at their core are publicly traded companies on the stock exchange, the stakeholders are going to be demanding positive performance and growth. At the very highest rungs of leadership, it's all fully corporate. They've never tried games and never will. They just don't care. They are plain businessmen who latched onto another business that makes money. Gaming used to be small, nerdy and weird. Now it's a massive industry. It's just the way things work as they get truly big. And for this reason we will not be seeing games "as they used to be" from any of the massive publishers like EA, because the focus now is on lootboxes, social integration and quick fun + annual releases to keep people playing and paying again and again. The gaming bubble will implode in the next decade and indies will have to restart the whole thing if gaming isn't brought back down to reasonable levels. But you've got games like FIFA and NFL bringing in unheard of amounts of money with their star cards and such. There's just no competing with the effectiveness of lootboxes and ingame stores.
@Huntware023
@Huntware023 7 лет назад
Amazing video, I never expected to see this level of "documentary style" videos. This needs to be subtitled to many languages so we can share to more people! I will try to do something in Spanish...
@ItZsMeE1
@ItZsMeE1 5 лет назад
I was crying at the end of this video, my childhood was based on WC3 and especially C&C... It's sad that EA was destroying an little company who set a new bar for RTS games and was planing to top it with each new title... RIP C&C Westwood... you will be always in my heart
@Tentacl
@Tentacl 7 лет назад
So many great games and memories, can't we just forget that damned C&C4 and keep the series up? Such a huge part of my gaming story... just fuck E-sports EA, launch a FUN RTS, with decent balance and great single player, and it will sell.
@steveulix2471
@steveulix2471 5 лет назад
I miss games that made me feel like this game did....
@gazlink1
@gazlink1 6 лет назад
MY TRUCK IS LOADED
@YagrumBagarn
@YagrumBagarn 5 лет назад
Oh shit DON'T WAIT UP FOR ME!
@RealRuruu
@RealRuruu 5 лет назад
KIROV REPORTING
@michealbay1290
@michealbay1290 5 лет назад
WHY DON'T YOU DRIVE!
@Zappina
@Zappina 5 лет назад
ONE WAY TRIP!
@GGoblin1
@GGoblin1 5 лет назад
We have generous portions
@ElderNada
@ElderNada 5 лет назад
Breaks my heart man.
@bradz9413
@bradz9413 2 года назад
WELL DONE @1:06secs giving the nod to the God
@Datastreamx
@Datastreamx 7 лет назад
I will never forgive EA
@samuelmapang1114
@samuelmapang1114 7 лет назад
They committed a deadly sin haha
@Gaijin101
@Gaijin101 7 лет назад
They have f'ed up alot of games. To think they were the ones who brought need for speed in the old days.
@jameslewis2635
@jameslewis2635 7 лет назад
If you think this is bad, just look at what EA did to Ultima!
@dsandoval9396
@dsandoval9396 7 лет назад
Don't worry guys, I heard that EA recently made a public announcement to all the fans of their games and promised to put more effort into listening to their fans advice, stop DRM and micro-transactions in all their future games, and stop ALL interference from the corporate department making changes or demands in their titles... oh, wait a minute... ...my mistake, nope, they said they don't give a fuck what anybody thinks, because as long as there are people with money to spend and there's call girls that need breast implants they'll keep not giving a rats ass and telling fans what they need and not care about what they want. Sorry, my mistake.
@abdelrahmansadawey3042
@abdelrahmansadawey3042 6 лет назад
D Sandoval , I actually believed that for a sec then when I read the rest I felt like a brick wall collapsed and the bricks fell on my face
@markmccallum2349
@markmccallum2349 7 лет назад
Wow. The fact that you guys are spending extra time to improve a video that was good in the first place really shows that you care about your content. Keep it up, here's to hoping you guys get big soon!
@Novous
@Novous 7 лет назад
I wish there was just a "additions and corrections" video so we don't have to watch an hour long video to see what changed. But i'm still thankful they made it.
@DrasticPurpleHippo
@DrasticPurpleHippo 7 лет назад
would've liked to know where the new info was added like a patch notes list or sth similar
@corruptedpoison1
@corruptedpoison1 7 лет назад
They care more than EA cares about the CNC series
@DjMatrix619
@DjMatrix619 7 лет назад
EA only cares about money. That's it. Stuff that's doesn't sell, are useless for them.
@dm3402
@dm3402 7 лет назад
It's because he cares about the game.. In all honesty C&C had it right, if they stuck to the formula and made the game smoother, up'd the graphics and added walls would've been THE strategy game.
@tuff-knorf4561
@tuff-knorf4561 5 лет назад
Only the ones who been able to sneak in an engineer into a construction yard knows the feeling.
@Fifury161
@Fifury161 5 лет назад
LoL - that was a good tactic!
@erichalpenny
@erichalpenny 5 лет назад
Absolutely
@peterc504
@peterc504 5 лет назад
Ahh the memories! RA 2 was the best!
@Halcyon_games
@Halcyon_games 5 лет назад
Ah yes the old RA 1 days being the allies and then stealing a soviet MCV to then build Tesla coils to defend and Cruisers to attack
@jr540123
@jr540123 5 лет назад
Doing that on any skirmish on The OG red Alert was the most amazing feeling in the world.
@QuantumNova
@QuantumNova 7 лет назад
Thanks, now I can be depressed more accurately this time​... 😂
@mjc0961
@mjc0961 7 лет назад
QuantumNova The most accurate depression and hatred for EA.
@GamePlayer596
@GamePlayer596 7 лет назад
I always think to myself, where would C&C be had Virgin not had to sell them off? On one hand we might not have gotten Generals, RA3, or Tiberian Wars, but on the other hand we would've for sure avoided the giant slap in the face of Tiberium Twilight. I remember being so excited to trying Tiberium Twilight, and I found myself getting immediately bored after two or three story missions by the retarded crawler system. All the other ones I played had me hooked immediately, and I was bored of Twilight within an hour.
@ForzaOwnz
@ForzaOwnz 7 лет назад
I used to be a caster for Cnc3 back in the day. I felt like a big part of my life was lost then The Generals 2 was canceled :(
@maniacalgamerz2488
@maniacalgamerz2488 7 лет назад
I got it on disk before i became a proper pc gamer and sadly the internet thing made me take the game back and trust me when i say i was pissed they did this to a game me among all of you loved so much. My dad got red alert 1 from the library when they had games to sell and we both played so much of it. I had my save dad had his. Ea literally screwed up what was among the greatest rts games of all time. I do wish westwood would make a comeback.
@maniacalgamerz2488
@maniacalgamerz2488 7 лет назад
generals is one me and my bro play and is good but i think it was then that ea lost site of what made us all love the series.
@512TheWolf512
@512TheWolf512 6 лет назад
EA kills everything it touches
@epikmanthe3rd
@epikmanthe3rd 6 лет назад
Eugene InLaw EA sets companies up for failure, then kills them when they fail.
@Daniel6254
@Daniel6254 6 лет назад
Sometimes i think that they just hate videogames and want to kill the market
@rickjames8960
@rickjames8960 6 лет назад
True but they did give use Red Alert 2. That's gotta count for something.
@fatetestarossa2774
@fatetestarossa2774 6 лет назад
INDEED
@isupportargentina
@isupportargentina 6 лет назад
Except Dead Space
@Macbille
@Macbille 5 лет назад
EA killing games since 2003
@radizenxl2324
@radizenxl2324 5 лет назад
Cnc 3 was THE peak idiot
@MrAwsomeshot
@MrAwsomeshot 5 лет назад
@@radizenxl2324 lol yeh it was the first game with EA everything after was trash.
@parkinsaw
@parkinsaw 5 лет назад
@@MrAwsomeshot yep kane's wrath after all the patches was perfect
@Jacen436987
@Jacen436987 5 лет назад
as they should.
@tripontube365
@tripontube365 5 лет назад
Except Apex legends
@claustrier
@claustrier 5 лет назад
If they had made Generals 2, I would probably still be playing it today... Generals is still one of the best game I have ever played.
@johnathonhaikilla5109
@johnathonhaikilla5109 4 года назад
claustrier agreed, one of my favorite games of all time
@reactor4
@reactor4 4 года назад
The team play RTS was some of the best I have ever experienced.
@SpaceGladiator
@SpaceGladiator 4 года назад
In my opinion Generals 2 didn't managed well to bring on the old Generals feeling, plus the very very bad decision by EA to just offer a hand full of commanders as a start and letting you pay for more generals as a micro transaction plague, even in the close Alpha. That was a ridiculous by EA. I would also love to welcome a new Generals 2, but in the style and quality of Generals.
@cuckooreloaded
@cuckooreloaded 4 года назад
claustrier I agree. Actually the game I grew up with
@williebrort
@williebrort 4 года назад
@@SpaceGladiator exactly as you say it.
@ZiLoXCY
@ZiLoXCY 7 лет назад
I can never forgive EA for how they annihilated cnc..
@VanquishSpeed
@VanquishSpeed 7 лет назад
Yes, good for EA to kill C&C, because the franchise would have ended up becoming more disastrous like NFS, The Sims and Battlefield. i just really hope that EA would get bankrupt, or Microsoft buys the IP and revive the franchise. EA has done enough damage to the franchise for last 2 decades ever since C&C3.
@ZiLoXCY
@ZiLoXCY 7 лет назад
EA will never go bankrupt due to never taking any chances as seen with all the games and studios they buried.
@byronblack2795
@byronblack2795 7 лет назад
I have not bought an EA game since I played CnC3 (Which I won in a comp) and I never will. I want to see them raped and burned, just like they did to Westwood!
@deepdark4738
@deepdark4738 7 лет назад
ZiLoX Ea litterly fucked up every single game they bought
@onetwothreefour3957
@onetwothreefour3957 7 лет назад
Deepdark47 i remember saying this to a gamer friend of mine recently, he countered with but they didnt screw up fifa first of all, isnt fifa an ea original? also, i heard many hardcore fifa fans think the fifa games got worse and worse over the years sonce maybe fifa 14 when it was at its height. i dont know myself but i cant believe how a company with a that disastrous history of screwing things up can still exist how have ea's stock market holders not sold their shares yet? how do people still pump money into this failing conglormerate? why do people buy their games after time and time again doing the opposite of what you should do with a gaming franchise (improving it)
@ZSTE
@ZSTE 5 лет назад
“Their failed mmo Earth Beyond” it didn’t fail. EA canned it saying mmo’s weren’t worthwhile. Then, Blizzard announced WoW
@Demiga1276
@Demiga1276 4 года назад
Agreed. I loved E&B - I still fondly think of it every now and then. My grandmaster explorer, charging my services to explore the hot zone beacons with a group of slow ass ships in tow...or charging for portal usage. Great game, laggy as all hell, but still great.
@xSintex
@xSintex 3 года назад
@Kritt Masta Lmao...put your tinfoil hat on more. As if blizzard at that time had the money to bribe EA.
@DJHaloM3
@DJHaloM3 3 года назад
The game was garbage. They were trying to get a piece of that MMO pie but they didn't have much talent besides the ones who struck lightning in a bottle once, with the C&C brand.
@ThatGuySizzleMac
@ThatGuySizzleMac 29 дней назад
All they had as a way to judge the MMO genre was Ultima Online...which was popular then, owned by EA, and still has servers open now 20+ years later... EA Games...if you're successful we'll shut you down for no other reason than we need people to pump out new Madden and FIFA games... RIP Origin, Bullfrog, Westwood, Pandemic, EA Toronto, EA LA, etc....
@dontblameme9468
@dontblameme9468 7 лет назад
Not even the ''Extreme Assholes'' can't kill the Messiah! Kane Lives in Mods!
@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342
Lol best comment ever
@anonymous243124
@anonymous243124 7 лет назад
Mods = The technology of peace. Kane Lives In Death!
@dsandoval9396
@dsandoval9396 7 лет назад
The mod community is really something. It's because of the mod community that games are alive and well YEARS after there release. I mean, who else (corporate entity) can say that they can take or have taken a game that's years or even decades old and have a player that played and beat a game when it originally came out and have them TODAY pick it up and have just as much fun with it or even more with new content that they produced for that/those game(s)? Granted there are textures that Dev's can give a game that can age fairly well but for the most part every game start to show their age sooner or later and usually not in a good way. Mods allow for an innumerable amount of changes that can be made to an old game with a dated engine so it can hold its own against today's modern titles. I myself am playing Doom with about 8-10 mods (recently added "bullet time" mod to it) and I choose to play it over 12 other modern games installed ready to play on My Precious, and at least half of those games are damn good games anyone would spend HOURS playing.
@sxsxpl
@sxsxpl 5 лет назад
Seriously they over-do it. It's so simple, just made the old game with new graphics and good story. No need for all this fireworks and features.
@danielgmur6486
@danielgmur6486 5 лет назад
How about micro transactions? I heard they make old games 10x better^^
@faizulariffin8154
@faizulariffin8154 5 лет назад
Dont 4get the dlc's
@MikoyanGurevichMiG21
@MikoyanGurevichMiG21 5 лет назад
EA is remaking the first C&C game now though.
@Theforsakenmedia
@Theforsakenmedia 5 лет назад
Dude seriously, I'd play the fuck out of a red alert 2 remake with the same story & same units aka everything the same, but with new updated graphics. I'd love that.
@DJNicShogun
@DJNicShogun 5 лет назад
@@faizulariffin8154 Starcraft 2 is now free to play and the DLC is not compulsory but as a Fan I bought it gladly
@ShiftyDimension
@ShiftyDimension 7 лет назад
I still don't buy EA games because of this.
@alejandroyava
@alejandroyava 6 лет назад
Good. What they did to this, and more recently to Battlefront... it's a disaster.
@TerrorLTZ
@TerrorLTZ 6 лет назад
Literally Ea its a Vampire... suck the blood of anything closer to him until it becomes into a husk... throw it into the garbage and rip appart the life support machine (game company tied to the game)
@ExplosionRadius
@ExplosionRadius 6 лет назад
Same. RIP Maxis/Bullfrog/Westwood Maybe someday some competent people will buy the brands/IP and resurrect those studios.
@tjanipka1
@tjanipka1 5 лет назад
Same, EA is dead for me, because they killed CnC.
@Mithrandirkun
@Mithrandirkun 4 года назад
@sycuro Yeah man, they fucked all up with Bullfrog. Maybe that was one of the first studios that they killed. That legend of it´s time, Dungeon Keeper nowadays it´s a cheap and greedy mobile gaeim... maybe it´s an out of season april´s fool joke like diablo inmortal and the last C&C
@luxgen9046
@luxgen9046 4 года назад
C&C:Generals/Zero Hour has been a major part of my childhood ❤ it's sad to say that we won't be seeing any more of those.
@bingvarstand47
@bingvarstand47 7 лет назад
"How to create fun for people. Thats what we are shooting for." So much has been lost in gaming over all these years.
@emikochan13
@emikochan13 7 лет назад
Well different people find different things fun, we're just not the ones with all the money anymore.
@gelul12
@gelul12 7 лет назад
Feels steam is full of mediocre shit
@Liar
@Liar 7 лет назад
vry tru
@dragonstormx
@dragonstormx 7 лет назад
Yeah, now scum like EA keep rushing things out without a care for what their consumers think.
@ncshuriken
@ncshuriken 6 лет назад
I miss the PS1 days, IMO that was the absolute golden era, the heyday of gaming. I was a little kid in the Amiga 500 / Atari ST days but grew up in the PS1 days. Things felt so much fresher back then. Almost every time a game came out, it felt like "something new and original", now its just endless variations on the same themes with different titles. Development seems to have gotten a lot lazier too, especially in this age of "copy/paste sequels", patches, updates, crappy QA, microtransactions, broken promises etc.
@nachoolo
@nachoolo 7 лет назад
Tr;dr: EA fucks with developer.
@SekretZdzicha
@SekretZdzicha 7 лет назад
Not really, just the gaming trends have changed. RTS were no longer the hot product.
@dogsteeves1
@dogsteeves1 7 лет назад
would it be TLDW
@The_curious_Ribosome
@The_curious_Ribosome 5 лет назад
When C&C Tiberian Sun was released my buddy and I skipped school for a few days to play through the campaign and countless matches of multiplayer... ...good times 😃
@Demiga1276
@Demiga1276 4 года назад
Tiberium Sun was my intro to PC gaming. Very first PC game I bought and played. I still remember all the fun times waiting for my dial up internet connection to connect so I could hop online.
@Darktitanium159
@Darktitanium159 4 года назад
I played tiberian sun when i was 11. I dint understand the concept of a strategy game. It took me some time to figure out, without the help of a tutorial and internet to understand how to play. Strategy game. But once i did it, it was all i thought about. Sleeping or waking. How to defeat cabal.
@mastermindbrain1985
@mastermindbrain1985 3 года назад
I was still 10 years old back then and I couldn't understand half of whats written or said, but still I had so much fun passion and nostalgia back then with this first C&C game
@fkjl4717
@fkjl4717 2 года назад
@@Darktitanium159 LoL. I was 10 playing Tiberian sun, it was so cool...I compete with my older brother for mission complete time. Also i loved SC Brood War.
@hornypony2862
@hornypony2862 2 года назад
Tiberian Sun and then Firestorm omg that atmosphere...it can hold for hours and hours
@NorBdelta
@NorBdelta 7 лет назад
**Cries in LEGACY OF KANE**
@JachAnen
@JachAnen 7 лет назад
*Cries in peace through power*
@MonzterAssassin
@MonzterAssassin 7 лет назад
SOUL REAVERRRRRRR
@snailsave11
@snailsave11 7 лет назад
Cries in "I hope you're wearing your lead underwear"
@xlpeoplepower
@xlpeoplepower 7 лет назад
Cries in One Vision One Purpose
@PlokHR
@PlokHR 7 лет назад
Sorry, I can't hear you over my Tib-core missiles from my Stealth Tank!
@EvoSwatch
@EvoSwatch 7 лет назад
C&C was a great franchise, it was a great mistake by EA to stop C&C
@antdude
@antdude 7 лет назад
Seriously, they could do more.
@TheRadPlayer
@TheRadPlayer 7 лет назад
Whilst C&C 4 was really, really bad... the worst thing is that it made them completely give up on the franchise, it seems. No RA4, no Generals 2... not even Renegade 2, or a whole new post-ascension C&C 5 with new factions growing out from the remaining GDI splintergroups.
@kazaddum2448
@kazaddum2448 7 лет назад
Post-ascention C&C...GDI splintering...Nod traveling the stars. Fuck you for making me dream of things that never will be T_T
@professionalpotato4764
@professionalpotato4764 7 лет назад
I heard the downfall of C&C4 was because EA threatened to fire the entire team if they couldn't publish it in time, so the studio released an incomplete game.
@thatsatoilet5113
@thatsatoilet5113 7 лет назад
TheRadPlayer What's even worst is there's a unit limit. And the game itself is quite similar to halo wars.
@Ang3lUki
@Ang3lUki 2 года назад
esports killed C&C. Simple as. People stopped seeing RTS games for the powerful storytelling they could provide, and instead became focused on how competitive a game could be. I miss C&C, I want it back, so so badly...
@GVMERS
@GVMERS 7 лет назад
Hey guys, you might be wondering what this 'Redux' is and why we made it: First off, I'd like to thank Plokite_Wolf and Cypher for helping us revise and rectify some of the errors and expanding on the information of our first script. After having published our first 'version' of the video, it was brought to our attention that some of the information provided was either incorrect or needed to be elaborated on. I regret the fact that this has happened, as fans of the series we wanted to make a franchise analysis that takes the viewer through the highs and lows of the series as well as tell the stories of the developers at EALA and Westwood in detail. Making a documentary-style video about Command & Conquer has, personally, been one of my long-time goals but I didn't feel that that goal was fully achieved in our first video. The story of Command & Conquer is very nuanced and the Redux or Revision (whatever you like to call it) seeks to tell this more accurately, with 10+ minutes of additional information I feel like this is a much more interesting video for fans of the series. Sorry to those of you who were waiting on a new video, our regular content schedule will resume now and I hope to have a new (exciting) video online next week! :)
@DreadGrimReaper
@DreadGrimReaper 7 лет назад
GVMERS "Good to know~"
@metaphysicalfuck
@metaphysicalfuck 7 лет назад
I hate you, now you broke my heart twice
@knanliyev6025
@knanliyev6025 7 лет назад
GVMERS You sound very good 😊
@TomLehockySVK
@TomLehockySVK 7 лет назад
Thank you for making a redux version on this !
@psyko2666
@psyko2666 7 лет назад
We fans appreciate the corrections and dedication to being factual.
@zitegiste
@zitegiste 7 лет назад
The simple fact that you went back and corrected the video just shows what passion you guys are putting into these videos. Keep it up! Really enjoying the stuff!
@oddluck4180
@oddluck4180 6 лет назад
And then the mobile game happened. I feel sad for the fans of this series who have to see their favorite series just be dragged through the mud.
@ausaralexander2627
@ausaralexander2627 5 лет назад
Odd Luck it is good
@ausaralexander2627
@ausaralexander2627 5 лет назад
Odd Luck it is good
@GloomGaiGar
@GloomGaiGar 5 лет назад
And the mobile game that turned into a full game happened!
@chaseyancey8824
@chaseyancey8824 5 лет назад
I actually really enjoyed CnC 3, I played CnC Tiberium Twilight and almost cried when I finished the worst campaign (LITERALLY WHITE BACKBOARD ART WORK) I had ever played, and noticed that the multiplayer was the exact same way. I genuinely wounded me. I have never purchased an EA backed game since then and had to find a home in SC2.
@kinglonewolf104
@kinglonewolf104 5 лет назад
@@ausaralexander2627 the mobile game is ok, but nowhere near as fun as C&C 1, which I still play today (2019) on my Sega Saturn and Nintendo 64.
@hotniaoniao
@hotniaoniao 5 лет назад
I'm still playing Tiberium Wars Kane's Wrath. I didn't care for Red Alert 3's cartoonish appearance. Tiberium Twilight was a waste of my money and pissed me off. I've never been much for online play, as five year old Korean kids always beat me within 5 minutes. I like to come home from work, chill with a beer and build a base in skirmish and just relax for a while.
@solamisandwich05
@solamisandwich05 7 лет назад
One sure fire way to kill a series is to sell it to EA
@Crispman_777
@Crispman_777 7 лет назад
I dunno, they're slowly resurrecting Star Wars Battlefront back from the dead. We might even have a complete game worthy of the originals by the time that the 4th one is out!
@kevinmiller1627
@kevinmiller1627 7 лет назад
solamisandwich05 I blame the fact EA is a stockholder company. It seems any company that is stockholder owned just comes out with repetitive yearly franchises or kills franchises. Gaming going into the stock market has been (in my opinion) one of the worst things to happen in the gaming industry alongside preorder dlc
@cah11111
@cah11111 7 лет назад
That's not entirely true, selling a nuanced, niche market gaming series to EA is a sure fire way to kill it. The Call of Duty series is ridiculously successful (despite being published by EA) because it attracts a broad audience and caters to the lowest common denominators in gaming: The casual online gaming crowd. C&C though was always more about the story and the single player then the multi-player, and unfortunately that's less attractive to the overall market, because as a real time strategy game, they have to actually think and strategize to win, the game won't do it for you. That's why the later games (post C&C3) were, in my opinion, worse than the previous games. They took a winning formula with a small, but dedicated fanbase, and tried to expand it to concepts that are incompatible with the core gameplay mechanics to draw a larger fanbase, and increase sales faster. And surprise, surprise, not only did it fail to draw a bigger fanbase (lets face it C&C4 had no chance of competing with Starcraft for the title of "supreme competitive RTS gaming") but it disenfranchised the small dedicated fanbase they already had. That was always going to be a recipe for failure, but of course the C&C franchise was always a relatively small part of EA's gaming portfolio, so it's loss as a successful game series wasn't very damaging to their overall success as a publisher. They could save money by cutting the series and giving the dedicated fans the middle finger rather than trickling money into a gaming franchise that wasn't making them much money anyway because the later games were awful.
@megood1582
@megood1582 7 лет назад
remember that RA2 and generals are published by EA. the thing is that EA become gradually greedy to sell its products to a bigger market is what killing this franchise.
@GTD_Galatea
@GTD_Galatea 7 лет назад
Call of Duty is published by Activision.
@Omegaeon1
@Omegaeon1 7 лет назад
Red Alert 2 and genrals and CNC 3, Good old times...
@LazyLifeIFreak
@LazyLifeIFreak 7 лет назад
EA is like a cancer.
@heartbreakmanNo1
@heartbreakmanNo1 7 лет назад
Take gems, gold and diamonds and turn them into shit, not even David Copperfield could pull that off :T
@Robin-lj3vq
@Robin-lj3vq 5 лет назад
Dev: I have this vision and I can make it! Ea: Lets make this instead, it has made all the other games fail but I am sure they will love it this time!
@calenbarnes9597
@calenbarnes9597 4 года назад
.... are you Kane?
@williebrort
@williebrort 4 года назад
@@calenbarnes9597 good question lol. But indeed the last games look like they failed because the man in the highest seat had a 'brilliant' idea....
@IAmAnEvilTaco
@IAmAnEvilTaco 4 года назад
“Who cares if they hate it, will a small portion of them give us millions of dollars?” Honestly feels like their design manifesto.
@darthfunkulous5993
@darthfunkulous5993 4 года назад
To be fair, there have been some absolutely brilliant and original games which flopped pretty hard in the past few years. The example that comes to mind is Prey(2017), which despite being one of the best games of the last few years didn’t sell well and was undervalued by critics.
@vicrattlehead6386
@vicrattlehead6386 5 лет назад
I spent my highschool days inside Red alert 2 and Generals. To me those two games are the peak of RTS genre , plus Age of Mythology
@RD2rush
@RD2rush 5 лет назад
the best 2 games ever
@Derek2k
@Derek2k 4 года назад
Age of empires>
@Dj.MODÆO
@Dj.MODÆO 4 года назад
WC3, Empire Earth and Age of empires, were the real reason CnC faded. Those game were 10x better.
@Crimethoughtfull
@Crimethoughtfull 4 года назад
Love the shout-out for AoM. LOVED that game. I mean, AoE was awesome, but I actually learned a lot about Greco-Roman and Norse mythology from that game! And Generals was awesome...good times.
@sentaiaddict
@sentaiaddict 4 года назад
I Agree with you. After school, I would visit the computer rental shop nearest to my place and Play Generals for an hour and a half while having a footlong, burger, fries and coke. Those were the times.
@davidtkac269
@davidtkac269 7 лет назад
EA has fucked up this series with C&C 4 Tiberian twilight. I have loved C&C 3 tiberium wars, kane's wrath, red alert, 2, 3 and general series.
@SavagePatch115
@SavagePatch115 7 лет назад
Dávid Tkáč I had fun playing 4 but it was like work. I mean I remember playing a custom boosting map so I could get ranked up
@austinnichols162
@austinnichols162 6 лет назад
3 and Kane's wrath were my favorite, love those games, sucks GameSpy servers got shitdown
@nekoz5341
@nekoz5341 7 лет назад
Heh, my favorite video on your channel just got better, I'm not complaining.
@spiderplant
@spiderplant 4 года назад
Suddenly, in the apocalypse year 2020: an actually faithful, reasonably-priced 4K C&C+RA remaster!
@wariv7746
@wariv7746 4 года назад
I know im scared too!
@netgamer101
@netgamer101 4 года назад
Did you buy it
@bennycostello2472
@bennycostello2472 4 года назад
I want red alert 4 god damnit
@wariv7746
@wariv7746 4 года назад
@@netgamer101 Sure did and i 100% recommend.
@halo129830
@halo129830 3 года назад
@Miguel Ramos They got many of the orginal devs to work on it and direct it.
@0NodMan0
@0NodMan0 7 лет назад
*_Again my Tiberian children, as I live and breath so shall the Tiberium flow. For as there is Peace through power, the Brotherhood of Nod will always endure and thrive in the shadow of fools such as Electronic Arts. So fear not, you cannot kill the messiah..._*
@StoicNatsoc
@StoicNatsoc 7 лет назад
Kane lives in death!
@agentorange153
@agentorange153 6 лет назад
Kane lives in mods!
@enysudarwati6506
@enysudarwati6506 5 лет назад
EA Games! Challenging Everything!!! Including your ANGER!
@martinnorambuenazepeda7426
@martinnorambuenazepeda7426 7 лет назад
I hate you EA, your presence at e3 is useless!!!!!!!
@oliviamoore3426
@oliviamoore3426 4 года назад
When you thought they couldn’t ruin the franchise any more Ea: hold on. Let’s make command and conquer a free to play mobile game. Me: pops a blood vessel cos of anger
@rudravisual
@rudravisual 4 года назад
The sad thing is if C&C was a free to play PC eSports title it would be excellent. Damn shame the franchise will never see the light of day again.
@oliviamoore3426
@oliviamoore3426 4 года назад
Rudra Saha i agree completely
@richardsavings6690
@richardsavings6690 4 года назад
Well, the remaster is out later this week, and I am interested to see how it turns out.
@oliviamoore3426
@oliviamoore3426 4 года назад
Richard Savings me too. I hope there won’t be any stinking micro transactions
@richardsavings6690
@richardsavings6690 4 года назад
@@oliviamoore3426 They've waited an awful long time to mention if there are(n't) any. Based on the Steam workshop mod support, I'd have to say no.
@agrashh
@agrashh 6 лет назад
Can i have some shoes?
@TheBahre
@TheBahre 6 лет назад
Oh fuck.. I forget about that
@colbie472
@colbie472 5 лет назад
i still remember that
@muadzm9496
@muadzm9496 5 лет назад
Something for the masses!
@jordanjonwillett
@jordanjonwillett 5 лет назад
Thank you for the new shoes.
@muadzm9496
@muadzm9496 5 лет назад
@@jordanjonwillett Oww! Okay okay I will work!
@DJJoshTOfficial
@DJJoshTOfficial 7 лет назад
35:05 Cool that you showed some footage of Renegade X in this version of the video!
@DroxElite
@DroxElite 7 лет назад
I cried a little at our silent shoutout...
@RevanDenton
@RevanDenton 7 лет назад
Dude.. I wanted to cry every time I have seen this video.. Im just glad I own most of CNC through all CDs. Even the First Decade
@josegallardo8681
@josegallardo8681 7 лет назад
where do you go for that?
@DroxElite
@DroxElite 7 лет назад
renegade-x.com/files/category/2-renegade-x/
@josegallardo8681
@josegallardo8681 7 лет назад
thx
@j.t2548
@j.t2548 6 лет назад
Kirov reporting.
@agentorange153
@agentorange153 6 лет назад
Back from the dead, eh, Comrade Kirov? I thought Stalin had you shot in the back in 1934!
@peterandrew6755
@peterandrew6755 5 лет назад
"Go away so many times pee, what as your was had number of the Kirovs." -Mr.MiReLiT Daniel Shyposh 2010.01.19. after the huge builded mass: 63 kirov went out to 53.
@JL897139
@JL897139 5 лет назад
Helium mix optimal
@tuff-knorf4561
@tuff-knorf4561 5 лет назад
The unit select responses are awesome in westwood games. 10* better than blizzard games.
@Theforsakenmedia
@Theforsakenmedia 5 лет назад
Fuck fuck fuck! BUY ANTI AIRCRAFT STUFF..... NOOOOOWW!
@Vixxy1679
@Vixxy1679 5 лет назад
What made them think that releasing a Browser/Mobile version of our Beloved C&C will make us happy. It just pissed us off even more.
@f36443
@f36443 5 лет назад
Completely out of touch with the fanbase. And sadly i think Blizzard is suffering the same fate.
@Mithrandirkun
@Mithrandirkun 4 года назад
Maybe, that was an out of date april´s fool joke... Oh no, that was for Diablo Inmortal Also. LOL
@IAmAnEvilTaco
@IAmAnEvilTaco 4 года назад
They knew. They don’t care. All they care about is money. Mobile games make a lot of it, for little investment. It’s also why metal gear turned into pachinko machines. Game companies don’t care about fun anymore.
@Nelo-s9i
@Nelo-s9i 4 года назад
FUCKING MORONS
@KalanTheDrummer
@KalanTheDrummer 6 лет назад
Sorry I lost the count. Can anyone please tell me how many times EA destroyed C&C?!
@KeybladeWielderXV
@KeybladeWielderXV 6 лет назад
Welp, Rivals just got added to the pile...
@kanjiNaem
@kanjiNaem 6 лет назад
Bozorgmehr K ehm u lost count? u cant count to 3? ok ill do it for u: rivals, tiberian twiglight, tiberian alliances...
@shadid516
@shadid516 6 лет назад
KeybladeWXV A few dozen times
@chrishaugh1655
@chrishaugh1655 6 лет назад
Melon Army pretty sure it was a bit a sarcasm, not a dick. Don't take it so hard...
@minh3264
@minh3264 6 лет назад
every cnc game after generals zh
@eirikeiken
@eirikeiken 7 лет назад
I love command and conquer. Hope EA sells the franchise to highest bidder.
@carriestovall8687
@carriestovall8687 7 лет назад
they should give it to the people at Ensemble Studios who made Age of Empires
@rimakeziagate9481
@rimakeziagate9481 7 лет назад
They must sell it to the makers of Bioshock, the 2K Games Developers, or the Most war focused developers like Wargaming, or to the Rockstar Game Developers, or Square Enix Developers, and more which could make it more useful with such slow developing but good product. rather than EA's fast developing but crappy and short-lived products.
@Quasihamster
@Quasihamster 7 лет назад
As if they were ever going to do that. Allowing a rival to make millions of it.
@arthas640
@arthas640 7 лет назад
Loved that game series, I got the first game when I was like 7 after someone at the computer company that my mom worked at gave out a few copies to his coworkers kids.
@Gozokukolat
@Gozokukolat 7 лет назад
I bid $5!
@subscribermaniacz8
@subscribermaniacz8 6 лет назад
Ahh yes C&C/ Red Alert Since no one is doing this: Building Unit Lost Unit Lost Unit Lost Building Unit Promoted *NUCLEAR LAUNCH DETECTED*
@bruxistkodiak
@bruxistkodiak 6 лет назад
*MISSION FAILED.* *BATTLE CONTROL TERMINATED.*
@CaveyMoth
@CaveyMoth 6 лет назад
C&C3: "We've got the rockets." "We've got the rockets." "We've got the rockets." "We've got the rockets."
@FirearmTutorials
@FirearmTutorials 6 лет назад
FULLY CHARGED!
@caorens
@caorens 6 лет назад
Super speed push ups
@ondrejhruska6988
@ondrejhruska6988 6 лет назад
Warning: Nuclear Missle launched
@chudmaverick6256
@chudmaverick6256 5 лет назад
Tiberian Sun is still my favorite. Spent an entire summer playing it on an old Gateway I got as a hammy down. I set it up beside my dads workbench, so when he'd come down to tinker he'd stop and watch. Fucking best memories ever.
@davidoftheforest
@davidoftheforest 4 года назад
a 'hammy down'?
@GreenChilliD
@GreenChilliD 2 года назад
@@davidoftheforest someone gave him a old gateway computer. Hand-me-down.
@Lamjitis
@Lamjitis 7 лет назад
EA ruined two Classic franchises Comand and Conquer and Medal of Honor . Candals in the air 🕯🕯🕯🕯
@stonermk2908
@stonermk2908 7 лет назад
EA has ruined waaay more then just C&C and Medal of Honor my friend. EA has been the Grim Reaper for A LOT of franchises and beloved studios over the years
@Lamjitis
@Lamjitis 7 лет назад
StonerMk2 yeah they where just the first two to come to mind
@stonermk2908
@stonermk2908 7 лет назад
Here's a pretty good list of them all imgur.com/gallery/NZalt of course i suppose we can add Mass Effect and im sure here soon Bioware to that list as well..depending of course how the next Dragon Age game does and whatever that new IP they're working on
@Lamjitis
@Lamjitis 7 лет назад
StonerMk2 someone needs to do something
@rimakeziagate9481
@rimakeziagate9481 7 лет назад
They destroyed everything because they want games to be developed as fast as the jupiter rotates.
@VanquishSpeed
@VanquishSpeed 7 лет назад
Lemme summarize for you why Generals 2 was cancelled: 1) Victory Games was actually a small team, they are really dedicated to help revive C&C but EA didn't gave the development team time 2) Changing Generals 2 title to Command and Conquer Free To Play, as we all know, EA is always money hungry when comes to f2p games and microtransactions few examples are Battlefield Play 4 Free & C&C Tiberium Alliances 3) A promised single-player that end-up becoming a F2P multiplayer, the most stupidest decision ever made, every C&C fans was hoping for a sequel to Generals 2 with SP & MP. but EA wanted the microtransaction part . 4) EA wanted to make Generals 2 (aka C&C[2013]) into a reboot of the franchise, that means EA was planning to bring all factions from all series including Tiberium series and Red Alert series, that made everyone pissed off. because all we wanted was another Generals 2, Tiberium Wars 4 and Red Alert 4, not bring it all into Generals 2 [C&C2013]
@VanquishSpeed
@VanquishSpeed 7 лет назад
Go fuck yourself
@mdw159
@mdw159 7 лет назад
so the EA is da problem ??
@Revkor
@Revkor 7 лет назад
YES!, jsut look at the last Sim City game.
@Revkor
@Revkor 7 лет назад
Note on 4, could havge worked but prefered GEn 2 but hell even Gen 2 has a problem the 3 sides were China, GLA, and EU....E FREAKING U. No USA and the EU makes no sense for tjhat universe for it should be a puppet of CHina.
@kungalexander829
@kungalexander829 Год назад
In a more simplified version EA keeps messing up the game
@chicosalsa0162
@chicosalsa0162 7 лет назад
We're in 2017 and i'm still playing ra2, yuri's rev, command & conquer gen, and zero hour lol :v in my opinion are the best deliveries... I would liked to have released generals 2 :(
@dereenaldoambun9158
@dereenaldoambun9158 6 лет назад
ChicoSalsa 01. You should try Rise of the Reds(C&C Generals Zero Hour mod). The latest update is Rise of the Reds 1.87 There are 5 factions in the mod(USA,CHINA,GLA,ECA,RUSSIA)
@hallmonitor98
@hallmonitor98 6 лет назад
how is the zero hour community? how many players would you see at a time
@ssjtrunks15
@ssjtrunks15 6 лет назад
i still love tiberium wars as it was the last true c&c that was released especially when you consider the abortion that is c&c 4
@angelljondov3422
@angelljondov3422 6 лет назад
Dereenaldo Ambun I love that mod
@Trillock-hy1cf
@Trillock-hy1cf 6 лет назад
Yep, I think Zero Hour was my favourite out of the C&C games if still have.
@iownanacura6782
@iownanacura6782 4 года назад
with cnc remastered it has risen again.
@hattedsandwich2415
@hattedsandwich2415 4 года назад
KANE LIVES!
@sandwhich14
@sandwhich14 4 года назад
The Redeemer has risen
@Terminate1783
@Terminate1783 3 года назад
@@sandwhich14 THEY ARE LIKE ANTS RESISTANCE IS FUTILE
@iownanacura6782
@iownanacura6782 3 года назад
@Mr. Shabazz command and conquer remastered.
@mmb6527
@mmb6527 7 лет назад
I miss that dark and desolate atmosphere of Tiberian Sun. Renegade was a really fun idea. Also, EA is cancer.
@CaveyMoth
@CaveyMoth 6 лет назад
You want that dark and desolate atmosphere of Tiberian Sun, but you like Renegade? You'll love CnC Reborn! (I wonder if they ever finished it...)
@connormac4401
@connormac4401 6 лет назад
Tiberium Wars is the last good CNC
@chrishaugh1655
@chrishaugh1655 6 лет назад
Going to have to disagree with you. While Tiberium Wars was certainly good, RA3 was just as good.
@m0nkEz
@m0nkEz 6 лет назад
Tiberium Wars was definitely good. Too bad EA made up for everything that went well under their watch with C&C4.
@v11cu96
@v11cu96 6 лет назад
Red alert 3 actually played (online) better than Ra2 did, (Westwood left that game in such a mess with YR). EA did good with the C&C franchise around 2006-2008 you could tell they were really trying back then. Sadly it was a sharp decent in to micro-transaction trash after that though.
@thezeitos469
@thezeitos469 6 лет назад
Its incredible. How can you fail and ruin very well established brands time and time again? EAs seeming incompetence is almost impressing. Not only C&C. The Star Wars Battlefront reboot: trash. Mass Effect Andromeda: Trash. Dead Space 3: Trash. Im sry but why does anyone at Ea think the changes made in these games compared to their predecessors were in any way a good idea. Sry. I got a bit carried away here. Makes me furious.
@jasonwood7340
@jasonwood7340 6 лет назад
I don't understand how anyone can think that radically altering a proven formula for a game series is beneficial. C&C4 was nothing like the previous games. EA needs to clean house, and remake a better C&C4 that doesn't involve the xp system or mobile base BS.
@suncity803
@suncity803 6 лет назад
Probably because the decision makers at EA are corporate bods, that rely on marketing and feedback from their slaves. Sorry employees to develop and design their games and ideas nowadays. Very high chance that they are not gamers themselves, probably never even played any of the games that they publish. Why they cock things up and get it wrong time and time again...sigh. The irony of EA is that back in the 80's when they were called Electronic Arts rather than their shortened EA moniker, they were an interesting game company often developing innovative and rather ground breaking games and ideas. Marble madness, desert strike, indy 500, archon, bards tale, populus to name just a very few. However over they years it's seems the company has been taken over by business men/women and lost it's soul somewhere along the line...
@pretzelthedude
@pretzelthedude 6 лет назад
@@suncity803 I feel you. I remember vividly playing Electronic Arts games in the 80's for much older systems like the Commodore 64, and they DID make pretty fun games back then. I wonder how the corporate sleeze that runs them now ever got their tentacles into the company, turning it into a sinkhole of shitty decisions that don't care about it's customers as long as they get more money out of us. Pfft, F**K EA.
@muchospendechos
@muchospendechos 5 лет назад
How EA get all the money if they only do bad stuff?
@KenjiUmino
@KenjiUmino 5 лет назад
"How EA get all the money if they only do bad stuff?" Madden & Fifa ...YEAR after YEAR after YEAR ... (and the sports fans never fail to suck it up) oh... and need 4 speed maybe and battlefield ... and sims (along with a crap-ton of expansion packs)
@t3chsupp0rt12
@t3chsupp0rt12 7 лет назад
YOUR FEELING OF HELPLESSNESS IS YOUR BEST FRIEND SAVAGE..... *cries*
@emildimov7904
@emildimov7904 5 лет назад
Command and Conquer 4 was definitely the Fallout 76 of 2010. Sadly, also the last "AAA" title of the series.... Too bad that CNC Generals 2 didn't work.
@nighthawk8104
@nighthawk8104 3 года назад
There's no Command and Conquer 4... That "thing" they released don't deserve the CnC Title
@cyan1833
@cyan1833 7 лет назад
The developer's faces trying to explain the "little changes" and "Innovations" made at C&C4, they knew storm was coming.
@RAClaus3
@RAClaus3 6 лет назад
You could see the pain on his face, he knew what the reaction would be, but he was powerless to do anything to stop it.
6 лет назад
Then why do it? Fucking idiots. Would love to see a games journalist with some BALLS say 'hey wtf is this trash? I don't want my base to fucking move, i'll build another one! I don't want always on internet for the frickin campaign, some people have shitty wifi, and don't play multiplayer for any game at all ever.
@solarstrike33
@solarstrike33 6 лет назад
It's not their own volitions saying those things - it's EA forcing them to say that.
@brushwaterkhan
@brushwaterkhan 6 лет назад
Robert Claus one thought was going through my mind “🎵Tell me...tell me.....tell me lies🎵”
@CaveyMoth
@CaveyMoth 6 лет назад
The storm was coming..like an Ion Storm.
@8BitPasta
@8BitPasta 7 лет назад
That was fantastic, very sad though. The fact that they tried to break into the moba, dota market was just stupid, it is not the cnc identity. One thing they should have tried was releasing a game for the ds/3ds and touchscreen devices, the hardware is build for it All in all though, as s fan and player since the inception of the franchise, I am thankful for the most part the experience I had with cnc. "Construction complete"
@Hashisassin
@Hashisassin 7 лет назад
"Low Power, Tesla Coils: Offline" *Sheds a single manly tear*
@xbbao
@xbbao 7 лет назад
This is exactly the mistake that Relic Entertainment made in the design direction of Dawn of War 3. It is a real shame that they did not learn from the mistakes that cost the Command and Conquer series; and likely doomed the Dawn of War series as well.
@agentorange153
@agentorange153 6 лет назад
Warning: Nuclear missile launched WE'RE BEING ATTACKED! Our base is under attack Units lost Units lost Mission failed
@jasongooden917
@jasongooden917 6 лет назад
When the Red Alert theme started playing I got so hyped...The memories.
@Manakuski
@Manakuski 5 лет назад
When Hell March hits
@frankieg7629
@frankieg7629 5 лет назад
Manakuski what you mean?
@Tiberiansam
@Tiberiansam 5 лет назад
@@frankieg7629 That's the title of the main Red Alert music.
@jplabs456
@jplabs456 5 лет назад
Renegade got a fan-made multiplayer-only reboot, called Renegade X. Its modern graphics are stunning, and the multiplayer mode is the same as the old one - i.e. pretty cool. I suggest you check it out, it’s free - with no microtransactions.
@SwGuru
@SwGuru 7 лет назад
E.A. make some really dumb decisions Generals 2 looked particularly awesome
@RCMartin27107
@RCMartin27107 7 лет назад
SwGuru Generals was the best to me. But played and loved em all. Still got em too. Really wanted another generals tho.
@indiexanna
@indiexanna 7 лет назад
I'm personally happy they decided to pull the plug for Generals 2. It looked awesome on a still image, until you see the gameplay with their limited construction areas, shitty sound effects, and abysmal unit physics which pales in comparison to the C&C3 Tiberium Wars and was also a blasphemy to the Frostbite Engine. Also remember their decision to make the game free to play, and seperate the single player campaign as DLCs, and also made the Generals as unlockable pay to play. If the game was released, it will be another stain to the franchise like C&C4.
@alienwizard9765
@alienwizard9765 7 лет назад
Did you even see the gameplay? You can search it on youtube and it's awful: shitty animations, shitty physics, shitty gameplay mechanics. Overall, it would've been a typical Free to play RTS game and damage CnC even more, than CnC4.
@indiexanna
@indiexanna 7 лет назад
Uhh... whatever happened to delivering a good base game people actually willing to buy like the old times instead of relying on the community to fill in the holes?
@indiexanna
@indiexanna 7 лет назад
Stronghold was an enjoyable experience for me from the beginning. I never played the patched versions because I moved along to another game. All in all, it all comes down to whether the community likes it or not. And to this one, the skepticism is just too much after C&C4 plus the consumers learned so much lesson from it and from many other games. Why free to play? Because of course the business model will approach the freemium and the community didn't like it. Why can't we get everything right from the beginning instead? Why showcase the game with shitty physics and shitty sound effects in the first place if the goal was really to win back the hearts of the community? The community know they rushed the game, like what they did with Twilight. Sad, I think they were bound with limited development time to create something they don't actually want to create. The community saw no love at all in that, only business and rushed product. And if the "corporate politics and shenanigans" statement was true, it only further proves the points I explained above.
@lofasz_joska
@lofasz_joska 5 лет назад
EA cancelling a game for "lack of quality" always cracks me up... :D
@Mediados
@Mediados 3 года назад
I mean...they kinda look at this from the wrong angle.
@andraslibal
@andraslibal 5 лет назад
Dune 2000 is seriously underrated. Had such good balanced units with rock-paper-scissor design, good storyline, various objectives etc.
@triplehelix3207
@triplehelix3207 7 лет назад
I hate that CNC was destroyed, looking back it had immense expanded universe potential within the Tiberium universe that wasn't capitalized on because of EA making awful decisions. Imagine books or comics depicting the Tiberium Wars from the Forgotten's perspective, the life of a Nod initiate rising out of the yellow zones of Brazil, or a Zone Raider reclaiming a red zone. There was a world here that came with immense potential that they could have attached good writers to flesh out with the games only offering a glimpse.
@snetmotnosrorb3946
@snetmotnosrorb3946 7 лет назад
Yes, this could be huge and awesome. Books, comics, movies, really everything.
@triplehelix3207
@triplehelix3207 7 лет назад
It sucks so much, i hope they get a reboot or just scrub CNC4 from canon and get back to business. I hate the possibility of a tiberium reboot because i can't imagine CNC potentially without Joe Kucan
@Archont_
@Archont_ 7 лет назад
Books = great idea. The best would be about Kane, his misterious plans, his secrets, his background actions during every war and origins of Nod. Remake of C&C4 in C&C3's style would be good, but... it would be also making corps alive. After that what can be done in lore without Kane? Only another war berween GDI and Nod, but without him, which will be a mega big minus, because Kane was the face of all Tiberium Saga. Or maybe a true mmo like WoW or SWTOR? Choosing between GDI, Nod and Forgotten and act to live in a diferent world ;)
@MegamanNova
@MegamanNova 7 лет назад
I miss Tanya...
@RafaelSantos-pi8py
@RafaelSantos-pi8py 7 лет назад
And Natasha?
@psyko2666
@psyko2666 7 лет назад
but Boris...
@Crispman_777
@Crispman_777 7 лет назад
It was really weird to me when they changed Tanya in Red Alert 3.
@Huntware023
@Huntware023 7 лет назад
But Boris can call an airstrike!
@Crispman_777
@Crispman_777 7 лет назад
Boris Johnson can call air strikes? Air strikes filled with meaty Gregg's pasties...
@rarecandy3445
@rarecandy3445 5 лет назад
i ruined my highschool career over c&c. binged one weekend and never went to sleep, and it was downhill from there.
@antilove84
@antilove84 5 лет назад
The same is here, i bout a computer because of it and worked in internet cafe to enjoy challenging customers in lan multiplayer
@rothauspils123
@rothauspils123 5 лет назад
worth
@TheWolferinDenver
@TheWolferinDenver 4 года назад
I ruined my life playing it so often.
@ewartlambert
@ewartlambert 5 лет назад
7:10 the first battle royale game mode....ahead of their time
@shigerufan1
@shigerufan1 3 года назад
Could argue it as a precursor to the first moba too
@somerandomguy8491
@somerandomguy8491 7 лет назад
the effort you guys put in is amazing...and the fact that they are able to own up to their own errors and to fix it is even better keep up the good work
@nukie404
@nukie404 7 лет назад
Sad to see one of my favourite series gone now... I miss running over the enemy (friends') infantries with tanks, using super weapons, rocking out to Hell March... Hoping it'll come back in some shape or form in the future. Also thanks for the redux version, ver1.0 was pretty awesome already but the extra steps you guys took! Astonishing.
@Dralaios
@Dralaios 5 лет назад
Generals Zero Hour deserves a remake more than any other strategy games that exist. Screw all this futuristic styles. It was perfect. Not all these extra features, but advanced enough gameplay to give years of replay value.
@HarDJeFfrcK
@HarDJeFfrcK 2 года назад
Out of all C&C releases.. Generals/Zero Hour is the only game I have ever loved, I tried Red Alert 3 but the advance technology and futuristic shit wasn't my cup of tea. GENERALS FTW!!
@amir.zadah1
@amir.zadah1 2 года назад
Check out GeneralsEvolution
@amer-du6qh
@amer-du6qh 5 лет назад
*"The Redeemer has risen!"* *"MARV assembly complete!"* *"The Black Hand has arrived!"*
@gggfx4144
@gggfx4144 6 лет назад
It's watching documentaries like this that you realise how limited modern games are - all eye candy where almost every fundamental mechanic was thought of tens of years ago. CNC and it's brothers were truly amazing. Like many I echo "This was a core part of my childhood!"
@GreatestGamer9000
@GreatestGamer9000 7 лет назад
Emperor battle for dune was such a good game. shame it didnt get much attention
@nukie404
@nukie404 7 лет назад
Ryuu I still remember playing a night mission in the game and being extremely impressed with the lighting. The game was fun too of course.
@ZETxZ4
@ZETxZ4 7 лет назад
I remember the day I got that game, my PC almost exploded when I played it, I was literally playing it by photos, still I liked that game for some reason, there was just something about it that made it interesting, perhaps it was because it was the first 3D RTS game I saw, after playing Command and Conquer,Tiberium Sun and RA1 and RA2, that was just something new.
@kevinmiller1627
@kevinmiller1627 7 лет назад
Ryuu For years I was hoping they would make a sequel that would end the trilogy
@francofx
@francofx 7 лет назад
my cousin show me the game and we played a couple of games.... i was very impresed, was like nothing i've played before... and i was so young too. I didnt even have a pc. it blow my mind.,
@emikochan13
@emikochan13 7 лет назад
Yeah we played it to death back when it came out :) had to get a pc upgrade to play though haha
@cultri6659
@cultri6659 4 года назад
Westwood: Don’t push me EA: I. AM. BEEG. *just casually runs over westwood*
@stahl1624
@stahl1624 3 года назад
Just casually spends $110 million to buy westwood, saving it from being disbanded due to bankruptcy of it's parent company. But yes EA bad becuase what happened at the end not at the start. You could have had nothing, and you almost did.
@ryotanada
@ryotanada 3 года назад
"I am in control." No you aren't.
@Hoko12345
@Hoko12345 7 лет назад
C&C Sole Survivor was basically a prototype MOBA, when you think about it, although without teams.
@PlokHR
@PlokHR 7 лет назад
C&C was ahead of its time in more ways than one ;)
@cognitivefuse5913
@cognitivefuse5913 5 лет назад
Generals zero hour is still amazing to play. I would pay for an upgraded HD version. In my opinion generals zh was the pinnacle for cnc.
@Dizzykitty817
@Dizzykitty817 5 лет назад
ZH is great when you could play for longer than 10 minutes before "Game Mismatch" error.
@TheHGSoulja
@TheHGSoulja 5 лет назад
It was the last of a line of good c&c games I was a hardcore renegade player ! CNC Fubar server
@ghost-jesus
@ghost-jesus 5 лет назад
@@Dizzykitty817 I remember that XD, the fix was use multiple pirated copies with different CD keys because part of the problem involved the CD checking DRM.
@judassss
@judassss 5 лет назад
same re do it!!!
@LiquidfirePUA
@LiquidfirePUA 5 лет назад
I prefer Red Alert II over generals
@aMondia
@aMondia 6 лет назад
Red Alert 2 is easily the best single-player RTS campaign I've ever played.
@Skippy19812
@Skippy19812 5 лет назад
I loved Red Alert 2's single player campaign, but I'd argue Supreme Commander Forged Alliance, Dawn of War (with the Dark Crusade expansion) and World in Conflict are all worthy challengers.
@watchoutforwhoyoupissoff3046
@watchoutforwhoyoupissoff3046 5 лет назад
nah generals zero hour #1 on my list but forged alliance is a close second
@wyldcard69
@wyldcard69 5 лет назад
@@Skippy19812 yeah I loved Red Alert but WiC had some really awesome missions and the multiplayer was hella good fun dropping multiple nukes on people >:)
@tonyrandall3146
@tonyrandall3146 5 лет назад
Cnc, Age of Empires and TW series, the rest need not apply
@alluxander1219
@alluxander1219 5 лет назад
@@Skippy19812 Dawn Of War DC is so goddamn amazing
@m.oshadow2350
@m.oshadow2350 5 лет назад
I like how the music changed when ea buying commend and conquer part comes
@zacharydrahm825
@zacharydrahm825 6 лет назад
C&C (generals2) would've saved the franchise. All they had to do was not make it free-to-play and not to release the game untill all content is included regardless how long the development takes.
@muchospendechos
@muchospendechos 5 лет назад
@my name is my name Like Red Alert 3....
@padawanmage71
@padawanmage71 7 лет назад
I wonder if sometime in the future we'll see a 'Rise and Fall of Bioware/Mass Effect'? Given what's happened with Andromeda, one can't help seeing a pattern with Bioware and Westwood Studios.
@gelul12
@gelul12 7 лет назад
Padawanmage71 EA: where great companies go to die
@marigoldjongleur
@marigoldjongleur 7 лет назад
Like how Pandora dreams go to die according to an insane masked guy.
@Duran762
@Duran762 6 лет назад
Padawanmage71 Theres not nearly enough games to do that. Call of duty would be better
@yahyamusseb
@yahyamusseb 6 лет назад
they already killed visceral studios so yeah its a pattern A serial killer pattern
@TrebleMidBass
@TrebleMidBass 6 лет назад
yeah
@ZSTE
@ZSTE 6 лет назад
C&C is what let to my hatred for EA.
@weezerjr955
@weezerjr955 6 лет назад
ZSTE Big reason I am done with EA. I know 1 person wont kill the franchise I just cant give them my money anymore, they killed so many games I loved. Command and Conquer. Battlefield. The Sims. SimCity. Madden. Battlefront. Fuck them man, for real.
@jean-michellegault1905
@jean-michellegault1905 6 лет назад
They can go straight to hell.
@cheemsdoge
@cheemsdoge 6 лет назад
You think EA made you mad? HA! My childhood was comprised of two games, Star Wars Battlefront and Red Alert. And EA takes the fattest shit on both and rubs it in good.
@augustuswade9781
@augustuswade9781 6 лет назад
Same
@abidsabanovic8188
@abidsabanovic8188 6 лет назад
Really? I love Red Alert 2, probably the RTS I have played the most, I still do today.
@Jordy1979
@Jordy1979 5 лет назад
That sinking feeling when you used to hear " A Bomb detected "
@safenders
@safenders 4 года назад
weather storm detected
@AIrfan-cz2kt
@AIrfan-cz2kt 4 года назад
The desperate cries of praying that the Nuclear missile would not hit your base whenever the siren starts going "WWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO".
@AlizerLeHaxor
@AlizerLeHaxor 4 года назад
Warning, an enemy has built a SCUD Storm.
@Grand_Kekthew_
@Grand_Kekthew_ 3 года назад
When you see a Kirov flying towards your base.
@Jordy1979
@Jordy1979 3 года назад
@@Grand_Kekthew_ lol yes you would let the A Bomb off just before your Kirovs arrived to their base. Double whammy!
@soliduswasright678
@soliduswasright678 6 лет назад
Anyone coming from the 2018 EA E3 conference. Seeing Kane's corpse being puppet-ed around hurt.
@ugiustuskeiserus8066
@ugiustuskeiserus8066 5 лет назад
At least we're getting remastered of Tiberian Dawn and Red Alert likely in 2020.
@Shamino1
@Shamino1 7 лет назад
You can chart the rise and fall of ethics and morals and vision through the rise and fall of Westwood Studios and Ion Storm, through C&C + Deus Ex's productions. I cannot overstate that C&C helped define my entire psyche and put me down the path of playing video games at the ripe age of 5 years old, over 22 years ago. This game and Commander Keen, Wing Commander... Anything with Command, really. Back in the days of using COMMAND prompt to load C&C.EXE
@psyko2666
@psyko2666 7 лет назад
Shamino1 the song of the first mission in C&C is ingrained in my childhood memory
@jackrabbit7349
@jackrabbit7349 6 лет назад
This video brought back a bad memory... I loved Westwood studios more so than any other game developer in history. EA destroyed Westwood and killed my favorite game series of all time. I miss you Westwood studio and CnC.
@PlokHR
@PlokHR 6 лет назад
"EA destroyed Westwood" You didn't even watch the video, it seems.
@agentorange153
@agentorange153 6 лет назад
They did, but not right away -- at first they built upon and improved C&C with Tiberian Sun through C&C3 (arguably through RA3), but then they turned around and COMPLETELY destroyed the ENTIRE franchise with C&C4, beyond ALL hope of revival!
@muchospendechos
@muchospendechos 5 лет назад
@@agentorange153 With Tiberian Wars the End of Command and Conquer started. It was released and after 2 weeks the hype was over, while RA2 + Yuri's Revenge or Generals + Zero Hour did hold for several years....
@lcs.1094
@lcs.1094 5 лет назад
some fan-made versions are way better, for example: Red Alert Mental Omega
@OpenMawProductions
@OpenMawProductions 5 лет назад
TS was a Westwood game with more financial uspport. After that they started to be more EA games with their input bearing down further and further. The tonal change starts with C&C 3. I'd even argue that Generals was still more a Westwood game than it was an EA game in terms of the style and feel and the solid nature of the gameplay. The games just took a nosedive and because EA doesn't seem to ever take the time to understand why, they start making dramatic changes to studios, splitting people off, changing names, reorganizing management, and then finally closing things down when everything has turned to utter shit. They're scitzofrentic as a company.
@gagaplex
@gagaplex 4 года назад
The first C&C had actually different factions. That actually wasn't very common in the beginning, mostly resulting in different factions being a different coat of paint rather than actually different mechanics.
@NevadaGamingWedge
@NevadaGamingWedge 7 лет назад
you know what, I'd love to get ahold of that unfinished Tiberium FPS commander hybrid, and make something out of that, that needs to come out one day.
@plasbot
@plasbot 7 лет назад
The music from these games was incredible. Addictive and somehow instills a state of intense focus. I still listen to Dune / C&C soundtracks when I'm trying to get stuff done coding.
@DeepInsideZettaiRyouiki
@DeepInsideZettaiRyouiki 7 лет назад
Haha...same here ;-) For me Emperor Battle for Dune and Tiberian Sun!
@JuanPRossel
@JuanPRossel 6 лет назад
c&c Generals has amazing graphics in 3D in 2003
@philippaul6039
@philippaul6039 5 лет назад
And in 2019 after years of waiting we get command and conquer mobile....
@transam351
@transam351 5 лет назад
We got trolled once more by EA
@DWORLD-xl4pb
@DWORLD-xl4pb 5 лет назад
The mobile sucks! 😖
@Mithrandirkun
@Mithrandirkun 4 года назад
It is... and out of season april´s fool joke :v
@Mrcryptidsarereal
@Mrcryptidsarereal 7 лет назад
Love the transition from the LEGION shutdown to the time travel flash.
@IHIavok96
@IHIavok96 6 лет назад
RIP C&C... You will be missed :(
@nartaas809
@nartaas809 6 лет назад
Red Alert 2 had the most bad ass intro trailer ever. Music of the franchise is awesome:) Oh and we spent dozens of hours with friends with C&C Generals. Its a pity that the franchise died.
@Vertutame
@Vertutame 5 лет назад
I prefer tiberium and fire storm but that's because I'm fan of original game and I prefer sci-fi but okay.
@jamesstrickland4501
@jamesstrickland4501 5 лет назад
its not dead they just released rivals lol jk its crap
@jhgaminghow
@jhgaminghow 5 лет назад
@ I certainly can recall that. Server will crash when i release massive Scud Storms! haha
@88oscuro
@88oscuro 5 лет назад
Last game with sprites too, and they looked amazing and still holds up well.
@flashhundred-yarddash6743
@flashhundred-yarddash6743 5 лет назад
I think the Intro Soundtrack for Red Alert, 1 or 2, I forget was a great Intro Song for the Game, but I loved the entire Tiberium Series Soundtrack way more... But I think I gotta say, my fave Story Mode Opening was Tiberium Sun GDI as for Gameplay at least... ^_-
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