The Rise and Fall of Ebbets Field… 

O'Malley stabbed Brooklyn in the back.

My grandpa was a red Sox fan who made our whole family Sox fans. He died in 2018 about 3 months before they won the 2018 WS❤

​@@Frequent200FLYswimmer Sad that your Grandpa didn't live to see Boston win the World Series.

@@kevinmiller6380 He would have seen them win it in '04, '07 and '13.

Brooklyn was changing. The fan based moved to Long Island. By the mid to late 1950s, it wasn't the Brooklyn of 1947 - early 1950s anymore. Attendance peaked in 1947. Stadiums were being built with 50,000 capacity and thousands of parking spaces. What would any owner do?

There many times. Travel by subway

The thing is, inflation was a lot slower back then. I could still get into Yankee Stadium in the mid 60s for $1-2 Gen Admission, as a school kid. And the el train on Jerome Avenue was only 10-20 cents!

Absolutely. It’s a crime to baseball culture and tradition that Fenway and Wrigley are still alive but not Ebbets.

I'd save tigers stadium just saying

Same! Ebbets Field was a jewel but just way to crowded. It should of been kept as a museum at least.

Exactly! This was the stadium where the color barrier was broken! It didn't happen at Yankee Stadium. It wasn't at the Polo Grounds. It was at Ebbets Field! So much history, gone.

​@@Checkmate34851Or Comiskey Park. Comiskey would likely still be standing if cheap assed owner Jerry Reinsdorf hadn't demanded a new ballpark built, or else he would have pulled the Sox out of Chicago, and move them to Tampa where the D-Rays play today. Goodbye old friend (Comiskey Park).

Another factor in the westward expansion of professional sports was the rise of television.

​@@chrisbacosThat's true, too.

@@kevinmiller6380 I forgot to include air travel as another factor in the growth of pro sports south of the Mason-Dixon Line and west of the Mississippi River.

cmndrflake-What for? It's easier to blame Walter O'Malley than it is Moses. The more I think about it the more I'm convinced O'Malley is an innocent victim than he is a villain.

So they could have been the Long Island Dodgers.What's the big deal about moving from borough to another?The Yankees moved from Manhattan to the Bronx.

Possibly. But the team that remained was the Yankees and they were perennial winners… that song mentions the new team hardly tries.

​@@bobwhite2The Mets. They were horrible from the time they were founded in 1962,.all the way up to 1969 when former Brooklyn Dodger legend Gil Hodges guided the team to its first World Series title over the heavily favored Baltimore Orioles in five games.

Ill never forgive them for what theh did to the old Penn Station. What a mistake

cosmostrek-Not to mention the fact that Jackie had got himself a job working for the Chock Full O'Nuts coffee ☕ company.

A few things about that scenario: 1) The Mets would never have existed if the Dodgers stayed in Brooklyn (or the Giants stayed in Manhattan). 2) Los Angeles would have probably gotten an expansion franchise in the early 1960s since MLB was set to expand west anyway. 3) Had the Dodgers stayed in Brooklyn, the Giants would have had to find another east coast team to relocate out west with them. Otherwise, it would've been impossible to justify moving to San Francisco all by themselves, or at least consider moving somewhere else like Minneapolis or any of the Texas markets at that time.

Plus ➕ the fact that MLB wanted to expand westward, since airline travel was becoming more common, instead of the slower train 🚉 travel, and more games were being televised, because tv was becoming the norm.

Not rubbing it in, but Dodgers have now been in Los Angeles for 66 years. Would love to have attended games at Ebbets Field. Jackie Robinson is from my hometown of Pasadena. From a lifelong LA Dodgers fan, thanks Brooklyn.

@CrownCityBoy My Mom was a Brooklyn Dodgers fan, and my Dad was a New York Giants fan. At least they have one thing in common, they both didn't like the Yankees. They were always National League fans. We all became Mets fans in 1962. My parents are in heaven now. But I'm proud to be a Mets fan for 62 years now.

The place was built in 1913. Probably pre-dated indoor plumbing!

That's great!

Casey Stengel vs. Babe Ruth. The two would meet up again in 1923.

I have, its on there

@@forgottenplaces9780 Thank you How about the Old Hollywood Park Casino and Race Track Horse Racing from Inglewood Ca or the Fabulous Forum where the Kings and Lakers used to play. Thanks. 🤝

John while no doubt Moses deserves much of the blame, others are at fault as well. While he was a fairly good Commissioner (allowing the smooth transition of Black and Latino Players to become a permanent part of MLB following Jackie) Ford Frick dropped the ball on the Dodgers/Giants crisis. Frick IMO should have allowed O’Malley and Giants Ownership led by Stoneham to switch/transfer their clubs and let those 2 get the new LA and SF expansion clubs. And finally allow 1 or even 2 new MLB clubs return to the NYC area maintaining the “Giants” and “Dodgers” names at new ballparks say in both Downtown Brooklyn and the current Mets Stadium site in Queens.

@@americangiant1003 Imagine the 4 eastern boroughs all have MLB clubs, and they would each be affiliated with an NFL team, sharing a single ownership structure. The baseball teams and football teams would each be required to have different colors and uniforms to distinguish their brands. Manhattan (Giants, both Baseball and Football) Brooklyn (Dodgers, both Baseball and Football) Queens (Mets and Jets) Bronx (Yankees, both Baseball and Football) Additionally, the city would have 2 semi-traveling teams using all 4 home venues throughout the year. Atlantics Knickerbockers (Baseball, Basketball)

You need a little recovery yourself bub. Start out by never again driving on a Moses road. 🤠

​@@tobygoodguy4032 ☝️😆👍Whoa, stupid!

Don't be antisemitic.. Robert Moses was Jewish so he was perfect!!!