KAKAKAKAKAKAK this is wonderful! PRANK! IT is terrible! I looked in the mirror and saw something UNPRETTY: my face. KAKAKAKAKAKA! But I am happy agayn because I have TWO HOT GIRLFRIENDS and I use them to get views on my videos! KAKAKAKAK!!! Good day, dear chu
Sad thing is in Corpse Husband's case, he takes extra care n tries to talk as little as possible in public because his voice is so distinctive, someone can easily recognize even if they don't know who he looks like.
If you ever see a person in public who you recognize there voice and know it’s them from the media but they don’t want to be known then just don’t even say anything about it. Their is a reason why they don’t show their face.
Honestly, being able to be famous without having to go through the troubles of being recognized in public and changing your entire lifestyle because of it is such a win.
Why yes actually if you're brand is more popular then your irl face and people make fanart of that brand instead of your actual face then yes Other examples Vanossgaming,IAmWildcat,DanTDM and many more
"The Rise of Faceless Creators" implies that this is a recent trend, but it really is not. The faceless creator came into being alongside the very idea of a youtuber. Vtubers are nothing new, they are just evolution that drew attention to it. Cartoons and game avatars have always been usad as stand ins for the creator who wanted to keep their face hidden. Minecraft youtubers in particular are notable for using their avatars as their face long before vtubers were a thing, but if you wanna get faceless, there are scores of creators without any face at all, just a logo and voice.
@@incvnsit stupid generalizations of age groups in the united states. I know other countries have similar systems but it's really dumb in my opinion and causes unneeded divide between the generations
@@thespacedisland5746 People do this with everything. People generalize every group of everything under weird terms, which is where stereotypes come from and why something like “Asian” is such a hard to define term because it rarely refers to large parts of Asia, same with other continents.
I feel like the faceless thing only really works with youtubers, it would be weird if one day you didn’t see real people on TV. But at the same time, the privacy problem is a big problem, famous people cant leave their homes without being bombarded with fans, and in some cases, they don’t even need to leave their homes.
Vtubers like Kizuna Ai already worked on tv tho. They invaded twitch too. 3D/2D model filter on your face is easy to do. You just need to pay someone to make and rig a model for you to use it with your webcam. It's the next step after the filters from app like snapchat etc.
@@BC-vj1gm It's coming little by little. They made an entire anime tv series without plot with vtubers as characters not so long enough too... their job was just to speak between themselves without any script like in a VR chat lol (it was bad), the name was virtual-san looking or something like that
@@brycecrispy I think they were referring to real people with personas. Voice actors for cartoons don’t count since a character they voice act for is not who they are, if that makes sense.
I think you should make the distinction that VTubers like from Hololive, VShojo, Nijisanji, etc are voiced by real people and the characters they play usually represent the real personality of the person, they just don't show their faces, but for Hatsune Miku she literally does not exist, there is no voice actor, no face behind her, and no way to meet her.
Saki Fujita is just Miku's voice provider, she doesnt attach herself to Miku's name Other than her voice, lots of Miku related content is made without contributions from Miku's VA
VTubers are basically just the modern equivalent of The Muppets: in both cases, while we know that logically this isn’t real, we all culturally agree to treat this as the reality, as an audience driven Kayfabe
I feel sorry for some of the faceless youtubers, bc they are constantly harassed by people to reveal their face. Literally the opposite of what they would want to do
We already do have faceless real life celebrities like Marshmello. Being faceless, also gives you the freedom to decide when you want to reveal your identity because at first, fame can hit people hard.
I think having idols that aren’t real people is so common already. We have comic book characters, game characters, movie characters, even book characters that people look up to and have personal connections to. The fact that Japan has already (in my opinion) perfected having a music star in this way is just the natural order of how things are going to go. I don’t have much else to say because you’ve already summed it up perfectly
I agree. People have always had a fictional story character who they liked, when that fictional character is literally talking to us (like a vtuber), it's like a dream come true for the viewer.
I do feel like we are going to move into the era of faceless creators but I feel there’s also the issue of not earning that should have been received. Lets take Vocaloid as the main example since everyone knows who Hatsune Miku is and the song she sings. However, those songs are created by vocaloid producers who are mainly just independent music creators who bought vocaloid voice banks and write songs and arrangements. A lot of these producers have rise to a lot of classic songs and even more newer producers are still joining creating songs. It should be the case that the producers are suppose to be know for the songs they created, however that sadly isn’t the case. One of the ways to get a producer to stop writing their song is if they don’t receive the credit for the songs. It was really bad when Vocaloid started to become popular overseas where the audience actually thought Miku was the one who wrote the song. Example, “I love the song Rolling Girl by Hatsune Miku.” When in reality that song is created by Wowaka. There’s a reason for why in a lot of vocaloid songs have “Feat. [Instert vocaloid here] by [ Producer ]” to help the audience listen to a song with a singer they’re familiar with and help to listen to more of the producers songs.
I once had someone threaten me with homicide for a face reveal. You can bet I blocked them from commenting on the channel. (I did type a really long paragraph that provided context, but realized how confusing the situation really was)
@@nabillzzat and what’s frustrating is that some ppl actually show their face on ig or other places but noooo they have to make a RU-vid video as a face reveal, like emirichu’s face reveal.
The first thing that a person looks on a famous person, is the face lol, I mean you are not gonna put attention to all the people around you and hear if she/he is an specific famous RU-vidr. Another problem, sometimes the voices that you hear in the video are not the real voices, I am not saying that is because they can use programs to change their voices. Take example H2O Delirious, at the beginning he use 2 different mics, one carry his “normal” voice, an the other change it a little because it was a new one, people love the old one, and past the time he carry a mic that the voice could be different at times. Corpse Husband is another example, a lot of people think he uses a program to have that voice, he said that’s his voice, but still the same could happen, the mic sometimes changes the voice without any reason.
@@Amo.Bateekh some examples of that would be whoisthisgit (most of the time) and shyguymask (also most of the time, plus he said he was inspired by whoisthisgit in a qna video)
One of the greatest things about being a faceless content creator is that people will be attached to your content and personality and not your looks. Or there will be someone here telling me the most famous female streamers who are all good-looking are famous because of their gaming skills?
Why to be faceless? Because people nowadays judge you on basis of your colour, gender, physical attributes, voice and everything possible to turn your channel into a toxic mess
the thing about being faceless is, you can show what you really are without worrying nothing, like, when you show your faces you must make a good public persona, so everyone thinks you're a good person _cough_ elen d'generes _cough_ while when you show no face you can just be as chaotic as you want since it's your masked persona, "give a man a mask and he will show his true face" indeed
@@Teodor18724 Pretty much every case, but if the RU-vidr just want to “comment” and not to gain likes or possibly subscribers then you’re just being offensive
You know, I wish I got around to watching this sooner! I actually had a conversation with a close online friend about this topic, more specifically Dream. A mutual friend, at the time, was and still is into the dream SMP, causing my friend to take a closer look into it all as well as Dream. I think Dream’s intentions were and are good but it turned sour. He clearly has a desire to protect himself, his friends, and his fans. However, his attempts to connect with his community have only created a sense of false intimacy and entitlement to his attention. From what I’ve heard, the whole phone situation left one fan crying because she didn’t have enough phone data to text dream. It becomes unhealthy when things like that happen and I fear people like Dream are finding it difficult to connect while also setting boundaries. Boundaries are clearly important, as they are faceless. They are unwilling to give up their privacy and identity over to fans (and good for them for that) but their fans can come to feel increasingly entitled to it. Of course, this can breed resentment when they hold fast to their privacy which they value, and properly so. I don’t think it helps that newer generations are built the way they are. Many people my age seem to struggle with their self worth, appearance, depression, anxiety, parental issues, and many other hard things to overcome. Many people seek release and an escape. The internet is that escape for many and it slowly over time grows unhealthy. The internet is just like the world, it has good and bad so you cannot escape the world here either. So we have some extremely unstable people sometimes who are clinging to online content or the internet to give them a sense of worth or a life, because they do not like their life. It doesn’t help that this escapism is almost enabled in a way by some creators, who are just trying to be supportive of their fan base. It is sad really. Those who are just trying to create a positive environment and engage those who appreciate their content have possibly accidentally enabled unhealthy behavior. Furthermore, if a faceless persona, especially Dream, ever unmasked themself, I fear it could be more dangerous than normal. I worry that perhaps the closeness fostered by the anonymity could surge in a sudden reveal, causing severe pushes for more personal information and many visits to the influencer’s house. If their audience sees the influencer as a friend, that can cause even more entitlement to see the influencer. Not just because “I’m a fan, I made you famous,” but because “I’m your friend, you should be happy to see me and spend time with me,” as well. This may be why virtual influencers are seen as the future. They have nothing that can be taken from them, they can be controlled by the whims of their audience as it do no harm. However, if we do end up with more virtual, non human influencers- that could end up being a problem. AI is easier to control than humans are, which would allow for easier domination of the field by corrupt forces. But that’s not something I want to go into. So friends, be careful! Be mindful of how you view your relationship with influencers. I bet you are all smart people and can judge for yourself what is healthy and what is not. Best of wishes! Please note I wrote this at like 4 AM so this may be messily written. These are just my thoughts on the matter and I am willing to hear the opinions of others! I welcome conversations with open arms!
I still don't understand how people can be more attached to a creator because they are anonymous. It seems counter-intuitive to the whole idea of anonymity.
@@satyavarma2449 I personally don't think they are pretty much from what I can tell all the most beloved Creators have their identity directly out their. I'm not say the most popular, but most beloved. People like PewDiePie, Mr Beast, Penguinz0, and SomeOrdinaryGamer are extremely beloved in ways that would be hard for a faceless creator to replicate.
@@austinblackburn8095 Nono, Isn't what you said pretty much what I said albeit with more explanation and less rhetorical. It was the OP who said that anonymity brings a sort of attachment
I did a whole essay on the generational differences on social media. Millennials were prone to over sharing every moment, but Gen Z grew up with the “everything is permanent on the Internet” message so ingrained into our brain that we all we want is privacy. We use messaging apps that delete after a day, Finstas and Close Friend stories, and we hardly ever use a real profile picture. I think this wave of faceless creators really shows just how much Gen Z value privacy in their Internet experience. Anonymity is the new relatability. And there’s something wholesome about liking a creator based solely on their personality and not some FaceTuned image they try to portray.
A ton of people say that my generation(Z) is ruining the world right now. Quite frankly? It's hilarious, it's the exact opposite really. If you want to see the issues in our world, ask Gen Z or Alpha. We don't like to censor our views on what's wrong with the world. My 8 year old cousin is... he has almost no filter. I'm actually proud of him for it tho, he comes up with such interesting questions. It always ends up with us both learning something, both bouncing around interesting perspectives to each other, adding on. The little dude is far from technically intelligent, but he's more than genius socially than I could ever be. I could never have the same level conversation with my parents, too much busy, tight rules, and minimal criticism allowed. I'm so thankful to have friends and a cousin to talk about these sorts of things civilly. All in all, trust the future generations.
@@gearwyvern7884 it's weird how people think generation Z are ruining the world, by doing what, TikTok dances? the majority of Z-ers are still teenagers, what can they do other than having fun, who cares if they are cringy, they're kids, let them do what they want, it's not like they're harming anyone.
"Japan is always ahead of the curve on these things" A large percentage of the male population have girlfriends who are computers, this doesn't surprise me at all
@@highsky6175 Yeah, I think it's unhealthy cause of the fact that they're attracted to an invisible or nonexistent being. You can be sexually or romantically attracted to fictional characters and still be in a healthy relationship with an existing person, I am all for that. When it gets to be very unhealthy is when you cut off all contact with the real-life dating world to be with this part of your imagination.
As someone who was around for Web 1.0, seeing the majority of people in the mid-2000s suddenly start showing their faces, real names, living quarters, etc., was SUPER weird to me. This return to valuing privacy is, to me, a return to sanity.
That's really interesting. This shift, to me, someone who experiences the internet around 2015, is TERRIFYING. I was never a person that got too invested into the personalities, but having faces always just made everything seem a bit safer. In the long run the faceless fame is probably the best way to go, but it's really scary haha.
@@ketsu4435 I'm kinda curious as to what you find scary about it, honestly. I find it way scarier to let the entire world know what I look like and where I live, lol. I get how showing your face makes you more relatable to the audience, but I feel like that relatability itself comes with its own pros and cons, and that's not even taking into consideration all the privacy and safety related issues with showing your face.
@@WraxTV I'm generally just a bit paranoid ig? If everyone has no face it's harder to make sure they're authentic. If you detach the personality of a person from their brand it's easy for corporations to make use of it and replicate popular trends. I know you can't have a healthy middleground because it's just not that sustainable. It's generally more irrational fear tho
We just sometimes forget that even Andrei is semi-faceless and has barely shown his face except for in the streamy's video and he's one of the best creators *coincidence? I think not*
It’s always strange when a faceless creator reveals themselves. I don’t think their appearance ever matches the way we perceive them through their voice and personality and it would be foolish to expect them to. Fans have so many expectations of their favorite celebrities that it really feels like they are treated as if they are of some other species that experiences emotion and behavior very differently than a human does. I think the best way to treat celebrities and creators is with mindfulness. If you put yourself in their shoes, and really try to imagine how whatever was being asked of them would make you feel. It seems almost impossible at times, but we expect them to get everything right, all the time otherwise... “CANCEL THEM!”. Fans have to do better across the board and some celebs do too, but we should both try to respect one another.
For me, it was never about how relatable the creator is it was always about how much effort they put in and if they can keep me entertained/make me laugh or smile.
I'm surprised he didn't bring up Marshmello. Sure his focus is on music but he's still on youtube and he's an influencer. He's a current example of what famous people with unknown identities could look like
I like faceless creators because we get to respect their privacy and that instead of knowing what they look like, they usually have an avatar that represents them. It's like they're portraying a character in their videos (Dream, Corpse, the many VTubers, and the OG faceless RU-vidrs, H20 Delirious and HowtoBasic).
@@Jovanoc Hahahahahahhahahaha get it because he said dream hahahhahahahahahahahah!!!!111111111 ecks dee lmarofl funni Boi hahahahahaha (ps: idk if people would read this but I'm almost about to add cringey stuff and felt like I'm gonna regret it for a century so ik not putting that part in)
I was watching a faceless RU-vidr once and I showed my mom the channel, I was like 9 then, and she thought they were a CRIMINAL so she told me to stop watching them and like an idiot I did.
@@Juanben123 no it is rude; not everyone has parents who are proficient in technology and as long as a parents decisions don't actively harm their child there is no reason to call them stupid. have some respect ya know? your comment is the equivalent of "i'm not trying to be racist but..."
I get it. My parents still to this day will try to “debunk” people in the lime light when I talk about it. I try to tell them that I highly doubt a 69 year old criminal has the capability to properly dress as a 17 year old playing Minecraft. They just don’t understand technology like we do, assuming you grew up fully or at least partly on technology
I don't understand how you can say that very much nicer, it's a fact. She was being stupid, because everybody has the common sense to know that watching a video isn't going to kill you
Even when JSchlatt was faceless everyone just loved his personality and just could relate with him immediately. It's all because he didn't hide his personality. The face doesn't matter as much as exposing your true personality to your viewers.
A good while back: RU-vidrs/Streamers show their face A while back: RU-vidrs/Streamers who use avatars, simply known as "Vtubers" Now: Faceless RU-vidrs/Streamers It's evolving, just backwards. In the future, we're going to have notepad videos again.
I want to start a channel and I think the idea to go faceless makes sense, some creators use their channels to talk about problems and that give the fans some kind of responsibility into the content creator's mind health. I think that is the other side of the coin and deserves to be talked as well.
I think another important thing that was kind of skipped over is that alot of youtubers don't want to be youtubers forever, and with youtube, putting your face on the internet makes you into a celebrity, and there isn't any going back. That's another reason why faceless creators are becoming more common in the last 5 years, not everyone who is a youtuber now always wants to he known as a youtuber.
“Can stardom be avoided?” “In a word, yes. Because we are Daft Punk and we don't need to show our faces to get on a magazine cover or sell shitloads of records. Because we're young. Because we're sexy. Because we remember Juan Atkins and Frankie Knuckles and all the greats who went before us and didn't get the respect, the money or the magazine covers. Because, like them, we're ordinary who happen to make thrillings tunes; characters throws up by a culture where it's she tracks impact on the dancefloor that counts, not the artists Image. Can we hide from stardom? We already have.” -Thomas Bangalter, 1997
I guess being faceless does protect from a lot of things but I can't imagine the anxiety of having to hide and feel like everyone knows who you are everytime you go out. Doing normal things without worrying about your identity being revealed must become harder. So in a way you're trapped, either by the public when you're open about your life or by yourself when you're a "faceless" youtuber.
4:12 honestly the reason I love this channel. Most other youtubers do not do this, including the big ones. Just a simple stop, and level with everyone and admit he made a mistake, without anyone needing to prompt it to him.
Once faceless RU-vidrs become the norm then I'm pretty sure that will make more people be RU-vidrs with faces, everyone wants to be unique and that's the cycle that will come
I'm a small faceless creator and I find that this video sums up how most us feel. But I would like to add that many of the younger faceless creators on the platform are the way they are probably because they've been told not to reveal much about themselves on the internet by their parents. For example, I personally love Plants vs. Zombies and therefore have this character as my avatar; I just followed through and made "Toxic Pea" the character talking on my videos. My parents didn't like the idea of me using social media in my early teens, which probably affected my choices as well in that regard. -But it works because my avatar is wearing a mask haha got 'em!-
I always believe because they want to keep their privacy safe from RU-vid considering there is a a lot number of youtubers I watched that continues to hide their identity like Dream, H2O Delirious, and of course Corpse Husband. And I believe that faceless persona also protects not just their privacy or their identity, but also family as well from any crazy stalker fans.
When you make a comment that get's a ton of likes/upvotes, but what it was commenting on get's also a ton of like/upvotes, I love the feeling of "I raised that boy"
6:38 I've been in the Vocaloid community for seven years and I can tell you that Miku is not the person the fans idolize. Yes, we all love her as a character and as a voice, but the focus goes onto the producers who use her voice. Song credit always goes to the producer, and "ft. Hatsune Miku" sometimes goes in there, but it doesn't always. Miku is important to us, but I don't think she herself has a fanbase - Vocaloid does and individual producers do, but I have never seen someone exclusively label themselves as a Hatsune Miku fan, cus she is just a blank slate made for producers to adjust to their liking. In the end, it all falls on the people behind Miku, and they're the ones with fans
I agree with you and that is a very mature and sound way to think about Miku, being aware that she's basically just a canvas for the producers/animators/and who ever else works on the projects to create something on. However I believe there ARE a lot of "Miku Hatsune only stans" that could name you lots of songs but propably not a single producer... But I guess it's understandable since a lot of young people are also into Vocaloid and its more difficult to seperate the concepts at that age.
I personally would not like AI creators, I don't mind it if an actual creator doesn't show their face but I think it would be really weird to support an avatar which is run by a team.
I kind of agree. Sure they can be entertaining but it is kind of weird to think that a lot of people are behind Miku but it's not like when you hear about perseverance you instantly think of all the engineers behind the project you think of the Rover as its own entity.
As someone who is a fan of most of the people brought up in this video, the statements about privacy are so accurate. It's nice not to be stalked and to take a break from the fame when you feel like it.
People can be scary sometimes, so that's another factor in hiding our faces. Imagine if you're just minding your own business when someone who you've never seen before starts bombarding you with personal questions. It sounds too overwhelming...
Yeah, whatever you think of Team 10, I still feel bad for those guys when I think of the lady standing outside their house with her kids going, "Be gentle, they make you famous." Ugh.
I'm also a faceless content creator and, for what I know from other faceless creators, the only downfall is that not a lot of brands want to work with people who don't reveal their identity online. I hope that with time brands understand that balancing a private life and uploading videos can be possible and in fact is the healthiest thing to do.
Brands specifically avoid that because of Pewdiepie. He set a precedent over the bridge scandal. If the entity the brand support has no face then all the blame falls on the brand when a scandal occurs so it makes sense why little to no brands want to support faceless avatars
@@Cnut_the_grape it wasn't the good ol days the good ol days of the internet was when it never existed or in the early 2000s in RU-vid but the internet in the 2000s how to dox and manipulate an audience and in 2016 was when youtibe started changing it started changing big time in 2019
“One aspect that tends to be overlooked is the equal responsibility of the audience in respecting the creator’s boundaries” Dream and Corpse stans: *That sign won’t stop me, because I can’t read!*
In a recent interview with Padilla, corpse mentioned that he used to use a face mask in public before COVID and that he even used to cut his face with razor blades. Dude has serious problems.
I have social anxiety and honestly if I ever was a famous RU-vidr I would probably never reveal my face because meeting fans in public seems like my worst nightmare
You're an insanely good artist. I love how you are able to tell great stories of real events with your own art. You're basically copyright-strike-proof with this ability. Excellent content.
I don't know if you heard but in a LiveStream the other day he said he has a horror narration video that he's going to put out soon hopefully that he's been working on for a while
Honestly I don’t have an issue if you’re a kid and you want to create a RU-vid channel and want to support your favorite creators but I feel like everyone should know how dangerous the internet can truly be I’ve started creating content when I was only 10 and I have done a lot of stupid things when I was younger and because it’s the internet it’s stuck with me forever, I also have got my private information doxxed when I was 16 years old I’m honestly happy being a smaller content creator because I don’t have that much people watching me that I need to be concerned about, Things do change over time considering that I’m now 18 and I have a decent paying job and I’m overall a more happy person now I also, agree with a lot of stuff you said in this video 👍
not necessarily, but it does make it more likely that fans are there for your content. ( They could be there because they like the avatar's look, you have a sexy deep voice, or because they have projected something onto you unrelated to your content)
@@sparkyclue6700 yeah he’s great and I’m a fan, but thirsty girls really take it a step further. Like I’m happy he has fame and stuff, but I truly can’t imagine having so many people fetishize you purely on your voice that came from growing health issues
