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The Rise of Nidoqueen in Gen 4 OU. 

Jimothy Cool
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Nidoqueen is a Pokemon often overshadowed by Nidoking in Competitive Singles. From Gen 5 onwards, the Nido Duo received "Sheer Force", leading them down a more Offensive path, and giving Nidoking, the more Offensively oriented of the 2, an advantage.
But in Gen 4, before Sheer Force existed, Nidoqueen actually rose over time as an interesting defensive solution to popular metagame threats. Despite poor base stats that seem unusable, Nidoqueen stands out as one of the only Bulky Poison types in the game, helping out immensely against the dangerous Fighters and also shielding teams from Toxic Spikes.
Nidoqueen can also create Toxic Spikes of her own and fill gaps with her extensive coverage. This is epic.
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@jimothycool
@jimothycool Год назад
Forgot to put Credit onscreen, shoutout to twitter.com/DarkerJenny_ who made the excellent Iron Mugulis and Iron Chugulis sprites.
@leonardovalente9772
@leonardovalente9772 Год назад
man, good thing nidoking is a supportive husband despite his aggressive appearence.
@alexanderrusso948
@alexanderrusso948 Год назад
His ancient ancestor Great Husband taught Nidoking well
@fabiaaquino2207
@fabiaaquino2207 Год назад
Makes sense 😂
@redwarrior118
@redwarrior118 Год назад
Im glad hes supportive despite their inability to have children
@theskullboy8700
@theskullboy8700 Год назад
Ladies get you a man like nidoking
@bigendaliver
@bigendaliver Год назад
yeah that's why he's got king in the name. gen 4 nidoking is the stay at home dad for their adoptive children while his wife goes and fights people for money and he doesn't feel "emmasculated" or whatever shit that asshole deoxys-defense is saying, he's just proud of her for being who she is and doing what she wants to do. as said previously here, get you a man like nidoking.
@foreversevenfold1666
@foreversevenfold1666 Год назад
The Nido duo will always be some of my faves, never had a Kalos playthrough without one
@graylyhen9490
@graylyhen9490 Год назад
Sheer Force removes the LO recoil only if it's used on a Sheer Force boosted move
@jimothycool
@jimothycool Год назад
You're right.
@ricardoludwig4787
@ricardoludwig4787 Год назад
Which is very important since a lot of sheer force pokemon get superpower and U-turn, but hate the life orb recoil involved
@zilosis3794
@zilosis3794 Год назад
Eject button also doesn't proc when hit with a sheer force boosted move.
@ExtremeSpeedMewtwo
@ExtremeSpeedMewtwo Год назад
​@@ricardoludwig4787even worse is the fact they don't even get the sheer force boost either. So they lose HP and let less value out of the move. Despite this, quite often Nidoking still prefers Superpower over Focus Blast, just because it doesn't miss... and it can hit things like Blissey and whatnot
@JCDenin
@JCDenin Год назад
I dont blame them for choosing Superpower over Focus Miss
@olliert4840
@olliert4840 Год назад
the little sequence of 4x effective moves at 5:25 was so satisfying
@ryphereon1153
@ryphereon1153 Год назад
I like how Scizor still survives a 4x effective Fire Blast from Nidoqueen
@DkKobaADV
@DkKobaADV Год назад
@@ryphereon1153 that was flamethrower
@AshenDust_
@AshenDust_ Год назад
And Scizor still lives. That low SpA stat is really coming back to bite it.
@Rafael_Oiticica
@Rafael_Oiticica Год назад
I love the design of Pokés like Nidoqueen, Nidoking, Rhydon and Tyranitar. So good to see them in the spotlight of some generations :D
@goGothitaLOL
@goGothitaLOL Год назад
Aggron too
@Rafael_Oiticica
@Rafael_Oiticica Год назад
@@goGothitaLOL Yeah! :D
@TheBlueWizzrobe
@TheBlueWizzrobe Год назад
The big kaiju-looking mons are favorites of mine as well
@TheMightyNaryar
@TheMightyNaryar Год назад
Yeah, monstruous pokés look the best.
@dashingclasher
@dashingclasher Год назад
i understand why people like them but the only ones i really like are nidoking, haxorus, and (this is a massive stretch) seismitoad
@MrShadowThief
@MrShadowThief Год назад
Based on their designs, you'd imagine they have much higher stats than they actually have.
@ramblincapuchin9075
@ramblincapuchin9075 Год назад
It might have something to do with a decentralized meta of their introduction. These days there are more monsters which are designed around specialization. Back then it was just about who could survive body slam. Not who could tank spatial rend
@boosterh1113
@boosterh1113 Год назад
They are Gen 1 pokemon. In Gen 1, they had stat totals of 410, which was not far from similarly designed mons like Golem or Machamp (both 420), or the fully evolved starters (all 425). The problem is just generational power creep, combined with the fact the Nidos are both generalists. Specialists might be able to find a niche in a power crept meta by finding ways to exploit their specialization and covering their weaknesses with good team comps and expert piloting, but generalists tend to be just outclassed by more powerful pokemon.
@cellP8
@cellP8 Год назад
ikr? The pokedex paints the couple as absolute monsters
@bovinleephann
@bovinleephann Год назад
They're absurdly short too
@theskullboy8700
@theskullboy8700 Год назад
Infernape: what are you Nidoqueen: your worst fucking nightmare
@tenaibms
@tenaibms Год назад
I must say, I love Iron Mugiulus's role as an Old Money check in gen 17 ubers... truly an underrated metagame.
@The_Pikaboi
@The_Pikaboi Год назад
You can just use Long Neck though
@nsbathome
@nsbathome Год назад
It's always cool to see RU level pokemon have a strong niche in ubers.
@stevenfraielli9869
@stevenfraielli9869 Год назад
This is why i think competitive pokemon really can be sometjhing special. I love stories like this of really weird, atypical, nontraditionally powerful pokemon getting dug up out of nowhere and being a legitimate piece of tech for those knowledgeable enough to use them.
@joetalentoh
@joetalentoh Год назад
Dude, these videos are just top tier. This is exactly what I look for in pokemon content.
@chilitofu3512
@chilitofu3512 Год назад
why cant nidoking and nidoqueen breed together but a cat and a whale can
@silverrey7379
@silverrey7379 Год назад
Top 10 questions science doesn't have answers to
@AthenaAlastor
@AthenaAlastor Год назад
I think it's supposed to mirror how some female rhinos can't breed or something
@butteredsalmonella
@butteredsalmonella Год назад
Nidoqueen's in her menopause
@iamaperson7545
@iamaperson7545 Год назад
But you can breed nidoking with nidorina and nidoran female. Yea ped- Edit: i just had more research and its even worse. Tnx lolavalanche. Can confirm nidorina and nidoqueen cant breed with nidoking but nidoran f can......
@Jordan13299
@Jordan13299 Год назад
Menopause era 💅
@axel8912
@axel8912 Год назад
This is why gen 3 and 4 OU is my favorite meta games, because they've existed for so long as well as a being way more limited compared to current gen. Players get so creative, finding nieche things for almost any pokemon
@d007ization
@d007ization Год назад
If the tiers hadn't been locked, it would probably rise out of NU after the arena trap ban.
@ValiantFellow678
@ValiantFellow678 Год назад
You should make more Gen 4 content tbh
@hawkticus_history_corner
@hawkticus_history_corner Год назад
The Queen and the King where on my first full team on Yellow back when I was like 6. Nidoqueen wound up the better of the two there, but that's cuz she wound up overleveled somehow. While Nidoking may be my preferred of the two, I will always appreciate the Queen. Also she's pretty great in Gen 2
@MoarCheeseBirb
@MoarCheeseBirb Год назад
The nidos also have such a wide movepool that it's really hard to switch into one of them and not eat a super effective hit.
@Hipsterjes
@Hipsterjes Год назад
The Nido's always had a soft spot in my heart. Glad to see them doing well. PS: Im happy that my sub has thwarted Iron Mugulus for so long. I fear his return.
@sorenandreas2k
@sorenandreas2k Год назад
need more gen 4 content, would love to see you collab with BKC as well
@Endless_Titan
@Endless_Titan Год назад
It’s really fascinating seeing what tiers a bunch of pokemon are since they reflect how times have change in a metagame (if you didn’t know, a pokemon’s tier stop changing for a gen after it stops being the current gen). Like Clefable is UU but is now considered one of the best in OU. Then you have mons like Dusknoir and Electivire who are terrible in OU but sadly were used enough to not drop off.
@AmoniPaleo
@AmoniPaleo Год назад
Can u imagine if all those "Ou Pokemon by technacality" went to uu instead? At least they had something! Still don't get why they just refuse to do it! Like nobody is using dusknoir in gen 4 OU, can we use it in UU then Dang it?? *It is not the current Gen* they might say But some, like myself and others do like older gens and surely new players would love it too, if they make it more simple to understand and kept updating the tiers even after many years have passed
@piratebear3126
@piratebear3126 Год назад
Skunktank is in a similar spot in Gen 4. It was overshadowed during Gen 4 by Drapion sharing its great typing, but access to Explosion and Fire Blast and superior bulk has made it fairly viable in OU since the tiers locked. Still not top tier, but it’s the best Skuntank has ever done tier wise.
@Endless_Titan
@Endless_Titan Год назад
@@AmoniPaleo Honestly I would love that too as a Dusknoir fan but I can understand Smogon not wanting to create a slippery slope since if you allow even one exception, the floodgates for everything pre-gen 9 will open and there will be an endless amount of people arguing and suggesting.
@AmoniPaleo
@AmoniPaleo Год назад
@@Endless_Titan Meanwhile Electivire and Dusknoir will be sitting in Ou in... I guess warming pokemons seats... They seriously have no freaking purpose other then to make players understnad how useless they are in a Hostile tier for them. I don't see the issue if they keep updating absolute insane meta games like Hackmons or something and making weird tiers with random gamemodes Are you sure there arent like 2 or 3 people there that could like idk manage old gens it seems so petty for the fact some pokemon are like being hold back from success for being in a tier apropriate for them, but no I guess Gen 9 hackmons is a very welcoming tier for brand new players to try. It seems so naive for the Smogon council not spending 4 days or 5 managing a simple problem from gen 4, because in quotes "It is always been this way" As you can tell I hate the Ou my technacality thing.
@hawkticus_history_corner
@hawkticus_history_corner Год назад
The only solution is for the people who play those retro formats to have their own votes. They run those things themselves and changes have happened before. Most notably the Sleep Ban in Gen 1 UU.
@kaleido9631
@kaleido9631 Год назад
Love to see it. I love hearing about niche Pokemon roles in competitive.
@magmamaster1801
@magmamaster1801 Год назад
I loved Clefable rising in Gen 4 as well and love this development too. I hate the fairy type and common defenses to it are it making poison more viable and Clefable better so it's nice to see these Pokemon prove that they don't need that stupid new type to be good.
@MegaLolboy
@MegaLolboy Год назад
Nidoqueen was actually used more than 10 years ago in gen 4 as a mainstay on hail teams for similiar reasons you mentioned. It was one of the few good infernape checks for stall teams (and could also handle other fighting threats like lucario quite well)
@dabom88
@dabom88 Год назад
Perhaps covering the other notable UU Pokémon that rose from the depths of UU to OU during Gen 4, Clefable. Along with the offensive coverage that Calm Mind Clefable brought along with Dugtrio that led to Arena Trap being banned in all metas from Gen 4 and onwards. False Swipe Gaming briefly covered the Dug-Clefable combo, but I would enjoy hearing your analysis of it in it's own dedicated video.
@MarMaxGaming
@MarMaxGaming 11 месяцев назад
Learning so much about newer Pokémon… very cool
@FriendlyNeighborhoodLamia
@FriendlyNeighborhoodLamia Год назад
Old gen players are the literal epitome of “Hey look buddy- I’m an Engineer. That means I solve problems.”
@odajimenez2600
@odajimenez2600 Год назад
Idk if anybody has ever said this to you but the outro music always kills me 😂 idk why it just sounds so silly I love it
@enricobersani8948
@enricobersani8948 Год назад
These kind of videos remind me of when I used to run sap sipper sub disable stantler in gen 5 nu, happened to destroy the most common wall that was eviolite tangela
@LRXC1
@LRXC1 Год назад
Great video! Now what about the extremely niche usage of Nidoqueen in gen3…
@awesomeraichu59342
@awesomeraichu59342 Год назад
Am I one of the few people who prefers Nidoqueen over Nidoking?
@goobingtons
@goobingtons Год назад
No. Modest Nidoqueen often gets used>Timid Nidoking is some tiers where they're together because it makes Nido a better bulky ground type and a stronger breaker/rocks setter.
@Lobster222
@Lobster222 Год назад
@@goobingtons I think he just meant design-wise you nerd
@Zo3yX
@Zo3yX Год назад
Do you think there is a niche for queen, in adv?
@yourdagan
@yourdagan Год назад
No. It's got great coverage but it's too easy to switch into, still underpowered, not bulky enough against the strongest threats, no recovery, and weak to key typings in the metagame.
@HylianWindRider
@HylianWindRider Год назад
Nah it's probably unviable in any tier outside of gen 4
@fatalbert135
@fatalbert135 Год назад
I've been following the gen 4 meta the past year from diff RU-vidrs. When I first heard about nidoqueen having a rise in play, in lost my mind.
@fatalbert135
@fatalbert135 Год назад
My 15year old self would be losing his mind. Always knew nidoqueen had that potential
@Laxerjan
@Laxerjan Год назад
AKCHWALLY there's another OU poison type that can absorb toxic spikes and it's tentacruel!
@SamaelDionysus
@SamaelDionysus Год назад
i LOVE Nidoqueen! I always liked it better than king even in the later gens bc of it's better bulk and the fact that full sp atk invested modest queen is stronger than full sp atk invested timid king
@chess_fella
@chess_fella Год назад
This is insane.
@SuperEljafru
@SuperEljafru Год назад
cofagrigus becoming relevant in gen 6 as one of few mons that can both switch in and cripple mega loppuny thanks to mummy. shoutouts to also similarly cucking mega medicham and azumarill
@jimothycool
@jimothycool Год назад
That's epic
@oatmongen4263
@oatmongen4263 Год назад
You should make more gen 4 content to cover: cosmic power clef, psych up jirachi, magneton over magnezone.
@Saiyza
@Saiyza Год назад
Nice to see Poison shine in an earlier gen. 4:54 Poor Heatran...
@pokeperson1000
@pokeperson1000 Год назад
Calls it poison touch, describes the effect of poison point.
@CantHurtMe361
@CantHurtMe361 Год назад
Do more, these videos are amazing!
@M3rtyville
@M3rtyville Год назад
Any video on Regice? It hasn't been seen much since he went to buy ice cream for Regigigas.
@jimothycool
@jimothycool Год назад
Regice is quite good in Gen 3 OU. Will cover that at some point
@zv7ws
@zv7ws Год назад
Nidoqueen is one of my favorite competitive pokemon. I have used a bold variant with reasonable succes in the pokemmo meta. Which is basically gen 5 without legendaries. I had designed a bulky offense team but it had a big hole that only Nidoqueen could fill. I needed a pokemon that could set up rocks, absorb toxic spikes, take a hit hit or 2 and have a threatening ice move. There was only 1 pokemon in the entire dex that could fill this role. Sheer force nidoqueen. Such a unique pokemon.
@rugino3614
@rugino3614 Год назад
cant wait for nidoqueen to wreck shit in gen 1 OU 25 years later
@Loris71734
@Loris71734 Год назад
How about a video on volcanion becoming a top meta threat in the past year in Oras?
@jimothycool
@jimothycool Год назад
Sounds interesting.
@natemathai96
@natemathai96 Год назад
Jimothy is like the James Hoffman of Pokémon
@Croagunk.Collector
@Croagunk.Collector Год назад
Poetic that Nidoqueen would be Nidoking's Wife despite the fact that they cannot breed together. Poetic indeed.
@maxinator2869
@maxinator2869 Год назад
I am still astounded lavados actually got a role in gen 1 years later. In such a solved metagame! How?😂
@mastermind42ful
@mastermind42ful Год назад
Maybe this is a fool's question but why isn't Nidoking viable? If they're so close in base stats and movepools and the same type and both have Poison Points, why not use King? Are Queen's better defensive stats the difference maker?
@PauloArais
@PauloArais Год назад
Yeah, Nidoqueen has superior defenses while Nidoking is a best offensive option. That's the difference between them.
@sicarius4749
@sicarius4749 Год назад
Nidoqueen is used for its defensive profile, and runs attacking moves for hitting weaknesses and without much investment. It wants to wall fighting types and set up stealth rocks/toxic spikes. Better attack doesn't help this.
@wafflebroz
@wafflebroz Год назад
I think the life orb not dealing damage is only when done with a move that has sheer force applied (secondary effect)
@jaernihiltheus7817
@jaernihiltheus7817 Год назад
The nidos will always be two of my favorites
@mattevans1643
@mattevans1643 Год назад
Life orb is only negated if the move used has a secondary effect.
@JohnHunterPlayerr
@JohnHunterPlayerr 6 месяцев назад
Low key. If you bring the support. King and queen are nasty mons in let’s go.
@qwilliams1539
@qwilliams1539 Год назад
Sheer Force only makes you immune to Life Orb recoil IF the attack used is being boosted by Sheer Force. Use Earthquake, you will take recoil.
@ugandaknuckles850
@ugandaknuckles850 Год назад
Fact:Nidoqueen sacrifice the fertility to protect her children.
@paulg82
@paulg82 Год назад
Id prefer the content be geared towards these types of niche plugs that rose to solve issues but do whatever you want man
@guillermoguzman8953
@guillermoguzman8953 Год назад
Every time i use a life orb on a sheer force feraligatr its always taken recoil damage and i have no idea why.
@thekillakrook1764
@thekillakrook1764 Год назад
Depends on what moves you're using ..if they have no secondary effect like earthquake or aqua jet then you will take life orb damage..but moves like waterfall, ice punch, and crunch won't cause you to take damage but instead boost their power because they do have a secondary effect towards the opponent
@TheSandwhichman108
@TheSandwhichman108 Месяц назад
Imagine if a pokemon got sheer force and close combat?… Holy crap imagine the chaos of a risk free close combat with reckless abandoned combined with life orb…No doubt such a set would be banned.
@noysam3570
@noysam3570 Год назад
Can you do pokewilds next
@massimilianodelrosso5495
@massimilianodelrosso5495 Год назад
I can't believe we have to rely on Lando-T for defeating Iron Mugulis *too*
@Rubbly
@Rubbly 8 месяцев назад
Is he saying "Revelance" at 4:21 ??
@lanceknightmare
@lanceknightmare Год назад
Close Combat has looked like an error to me for several years. My main testing ground for close combat versus brick break is generation 5 super train. The information should be transferable to player versus player. With Brick Break you have a more stable long term move due to not losing defense. Being able to break screens is an added benefit to this move.
@dispergosum
@dispergosum Год назад
I wanna learn about the development of triple boom in gen 2
@arock9362
@arock9362 Год назад
My queen ❤.
@armorbearer9702
@armorbearer9702 Год назад
What item should Nidoqueen hold? I would guess leftovers for health recovery.
@benjulesrun9057
@benjulesrun9057 Год назад
Tentacruel too!
@EricKingOfScots
@EricKingOfScots Год назад
I find it so strange how low the Nido's BST are. Like, theyre luteral monsters. Why so weak?
@loopseeker
@loopseeker Год назад
before this nidoqueen was only viable in pokemon monopoly
@dragnricvelestia6204
@dragnricvelestia6204 Год назад
How can Nidoking be proud of Nidoqueen when they even refuse to breed together?
@yungmuney5903
@yungmuney5903 Год назад
Gen 6 cofagrigus?
@w345345345
@w345345345 Год назад
Slay queen
@Macaulyn_97
@Macaulyn_97 Год назад
I'm pretty sure Nidoqueen became better than Nidoking after Sheer Force, because she has better defensive stats and can take damage while dishing out as well.
@stealthy9156
@stealthy9156 Год назад
No. Nidoking became the grim reaper after getting sheer force. Nidoking still isn't totally frail and the difference in SpA is a big deal
@DarthNoshitam
@DarthNoshitam Год назад
But what is nidoqueen's niche in gen 4 ubers? 🤔
@feelsokayman5656
@feelsokayman5656 Год назад
Jimmy a Nidoqueen enjoyer???
@Raymanlegacy
@Raymanlegacy Год назад
It was quite shocking for Nidoqueen to be the better option for a generation I always that Nidoking was just better
@MatiGra32
@MatiGra32 Год назад
Miltank in GSC
@pikmin125
@pikmin125 Год назад
We should have known that the match was rigged from the moment everyone learned that Old Money was sponsoring the match. He can't keep getting away with this.
@McSwift0421
@McSwift0421 Год назад
UMM underwhelming LOOKING? Offensive.
@MrDcow
@MrDcow Год назад
These are always great informative videos until you start calling single players they and confuse us
@ShutUpSceneKid69
@ShutUpSceneKid69 Год назад
Maybe life orb is coded as a secondary effect, so when sheer force meets the requirements, it can null out life orb’s secondary effect of removing 10% of hp
@Arko777777
@Arko777777 Год назад
3:41 Posion POINT Poison Touch is a different ability that can poison the opponent when YOU make contact.
@TamilSwampertOwner
@TamilSwampertOwner Год назад
Thats the comment i want to find it
@warriormouse3005
@warriormouse3005 Год назад
As a kid in my very first run of a Pokemon game with Yellow, I had a Nidoqueen that became my team's ace. Obviously I didn't really know what I was doing, but ever since Nidoqueen has been one of my favourite pokemon, far above her kingly counterpart. It warms my childish heart to see a high level metagame where she's seeing success.
@jonathandoherty8594
@jonathandoherty8594 Год назад
I honestly love your style pf commentary where you talk about the pokemon as though they were individual fighters instead of an entire species. Like Nidoqueen and king are a married couple participating in some sort of fighters league for sport instead of a pokemon battle
@Epzilon12
@Epzilon12 Год назад
Gen 5's Nidoking Backsprite looks so sick. Dude looks like ferocious as heck
@skydome5481
@skydome5481 Год назад
Do you mean gen 4?
@mediocreboi
@mediocreboi Год назад
I'd love your thoughts on my favorite pokemon aesthetically and competitively. Quagsire. It sucks he's not great in gen 3 OU but he's a super great Kyogre check in Ubers
@cookiesandmilk6421
@cookiesandmilk6421 Год назад
Chlorophyll Victreebell on Sun teams (in gen 6 ou specifically, idk about the other ones) is easily my favorite niche pokemon ever. A niche mon in a niche archetype with surprisingly high sweep potential. The combination of chlorophyll making up for it's bad speed and powerful stab options in the sun, along with great fire coverage made it into a real threat. An unexpected one at that.
@Silver-Arm
@Silver-Arm Год назад
This reminds me of Moltres in the current metagame. I could never imagine it being OU, even with HDB. But the stars aligned and it's now a great defensive option.
@boop53
@boop53 Год назад
i hope Moltres gains defog back in the near future. It will become even more of a serious choice for the meta
@uniatrix
@uniatrix Год назад
Really weird interaction with life orb and sheer force since it only states that the effect is for the move itself. Was that really intended by the devs?
@ZygonCannar
@ZygonCannar Год назад
If it was a mistake it would have been fixed by now, Sheer force has been out since Gen 5.
@uniatrix
@uniatrix Год назад
@@ZygonCannar I know it can just be intended but I’ve lost count in how many times mistakes and bugs became features in so many different games and programs in general lol
@bombermanbart3858
@bombermanbart3858 Год назад
Interesting video! But I noticed something: doesn't Toxicroak and Nidoqueen share a lot of things in common (e.g Rock resistance, Fighting resistance), so wouldn't Toxicroak be used more to queen? Would like to know about...
@jimothycool
@jimothycool Год назад
access to Toxic Spikes is a big factor. Sand immunity aswell
@BigBoneBusiness
@BigBoneBusiness Год назад
I know nothing about gen 4, but Toxicroak seems slightly frailer than Nidoqueen and Dry Skin might be a hindrance since it gives you a fire weakness. Heatran and Infernape seem pretty common.
@bombermanbart3858
@bombermanbart3858 Год назад
And being being immune to water moves isn't as interesting as being more weak to fire? Hm...
@BigBoneBusiness
@BigBoneBusiness Год назад
@@bombermanbart3858 Like I said, idk anything about Gen 4 comp and I'm fairly new to competitive pokemon in general. I will admit I'm probably a little stuck on those two fire types in particular because they constantly come up whenever I watch something about Gen 4 and they appeared to feature in this video a fair bit as well.
@fishyfishyfishy500akabs8
@fishyfishyfishy500akabs8 Год назад
Croak is smoked by psychic moves and perishes to flying moves. Croak is also alot less defensively sound, having worse defenses and lacks an electric immunity, which can be an important switch in against mons like rotom or zapdos. Croak as a result even when not dry skin cannot counter threats like heatran or infernape due to dying or being seriously injured on the switch due to its low bulk, as well as losing to faster offensive Pokemon. It can however be used to mop up a weakened team, similar to bisharps role in later gens, but it’s not anywhere near as good as bisharp in that role.
@avvvqvvv99
@avvvqvvv99 Год назад
I used to play the OU ladder when Gen 4 was released, and I remember Nidoqueen as a Pokémon only used by the top players, the type of player who could read your mind, top 50 in the ladder or better. Never faced it against weak players, when I saw Nidoqueen I knew I had reached my ceiling and was about to get some awful defeats. Against weak players I would face a lot of Gyarados+Electivire, Porygon-Z with Nasty Plot or Specs, Yanmega, Roserade, Togekiss hax, Dusknoir, Spiritomb, Cresselia, etc... When I faced someone with Nidoqueen, not only was my team completely unprepared, I was completely unprepared too. I didn't have the capacity to recognize how good Nidoqueen was in general, I thought only players of a certain level could use it well, so I never even tried to replicate their teams, and stuck more to SkarmBliss + balance.
@imablisy
@imablisy Год назад
is this a reupload am I drunk
@eycphatp
@eycphatp 7 месяцев назад
Howdy
@hibbs1712
@hibbs1712 6 месяцев назад
Storm Drain Cradily gen 5 and 6 is still slept on to this very day. Nullifying water completely is an awesome team to build around, take it from me.
@bireland2012
@bireland2012 Год назад
I’d like to see videos on gen 6 formats. It’s 10 years old this year and it would be interesting to see some of the ways that gen 6 metagames have evolved.
@dearozero3631
@dearozero3631 Год назад
The fight was rigged!!
@the45321
@the45321 Год назад
maybe im just confused but why not use nidoking is the little bit of difference stat wise that huge of an impact between the two i just need someone to explain to me why queen is overall just better than queen here thanks guys
@jimothycool
@jimothycool Год назад
Mostly the higher defense and HP stats is the big thing. Main reason to use the Nidos in Gen 4 is their defensive typing and utility, so the more defensive one is better. Similar to how Nidoking tends to be better in later gens as its attacking stats are a bit better
@cellP8
@cellP8 Год назад
love the thumbnails xD Nido couple needs more love and buffs! Their dex description doesnt match their stats
@DkKobaADV
@DkKobaADV Год назад
The debut of DPP Jim
@sukidable
@sukidable Год назад
Back in gen 4 i always thought that rock types ought to be able to absorb stealth rock like poisons do with tspikes
@marcorossi2854
@marcorossi2854 Год назад
Nidoqueen in DPP is one of the coolest stories in comp pokemon
@Boamere
@Boamere Год назад
Imagine how great magmortar would be if it had sheer force
@ctv186
@ctv186 Год назад
Ha I get it, time to lay down the Law of the Land(orus).
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