Thank you . Somehow listening to medieval wars is preferable to listening to the current worlds problems at the moment. Seems like not much has changed eh? 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
There was a time when the royals of England and their intrigue captivated me. I just couldn’t get enough of their drama. Then I discovered the Eastern Roman Empires court and the stories that echoed down through time that shamed game of thrones and anything that our eyes and ears had witnessed before. Truly writers have been looking in the wrong places for inspiration.
The middle ages have always been the most fascinating period of history for me. I love anything to do with it. I have since I can't remember. But for some reason I just came to this realization not that long ago. And every time I think about how long ago it was it blows my mind lol
What an absolutely captivating narrative and a masterful presentation. Ultimate power corrupts. Thomas Becket unfortunately met a gruesome demise but he should have better remembered who raised him up to ultimate power. Eléonore of Aquitaine was a remarkable woman and a powerful political player on her own right Richard the Lionheart was her favorite for a reason. On top of being the most handsome one of the bunch he had leadership qualities the other sibling did not have. He became an amazing and powerful King warrior just like King Henry II. First I learned a great deal about King Richard the Lionheart from Sir Walter Scott’s book Ivanhoe, which I read /and reread few times/ at the age of 13. It’s a work of fiction but still if you separate the historical facts from the literary fiction is an utterly fascinating stuff
personally think he's one of england's worst kings. offered to sell london if he had a buyer. spent only 6 months out of 10 yrs as king in england. got captured and cost the country an expensive ransom for freedom. though history has been ever so kind to this loser king, he's negatives are conveniently ignored.
I hear often about how great Richard was, yet he was so arrogant that even the other nobles who fought with him hated him, eventually ransoming him for several years' worth of treasury. John, who gets the brunt of history, was handed a bankrupt nation and an aggressor in France who was conspiring against him with English nobles. Why is this never discussed? Also, how much time did Richard actually spend in England being King? Was he a great leader of England or was he a great warrior? One can often be one and not the other. I tend to think that John gets a pretty raw deal historically, and I also tend to think that he was a pretty good leader. After all, England still existed after his reign was up, which is fairly remarkable considering its circumstances. As a descendant of John and Eleonore, I may be feeling a little duty bound to defend them. 😁
@@colechillen7700 Everyone has a bias. It's part of being a human being. But the questions are valid and ignored. Would you want a King who spent his entire reign overseas? How is that even a King?
I´m obsessed with all the series of Dan Jones, but perhaps if you make a show similar to this, but about the celts, or roman britain I will binge-watch about a Thousand times. C´mon Dan Jones, I know that you love to write , but this... Is GOLD. Luv ya!
"Plantagenet" means "gorse branch" in English (Lat.: planta genista; Old French: plante genest). The progenitor of the Plantagenets, Geoffrey V, Count of Anjou and Duke of Normandy, is said that he used to wear a sprig of gorse on his helmet.
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I consider myself a very lucky person. I was able to enter Cantabury Cathedral and even participated in a church service (even though I do not follow the religion). The amount of culture and history this place has is absolutely amazing. I look forward to going back some day soon. I am very lucky to have been there
Very much enjoyed this. However, the part about Henry's barefoot walk through the streets and his flagellation being portrayed as a propaganda stunt, I find incongruous. I'd argue that it was a genuine act of deep remorse, atonement and redemption. That prostrating oneself so fully is a far weightier act than one of mere superficial politics.
I see it as an act of self preservation. If he didn't atone he loses everything. If it was propaganda, it was convincing, bc he suffered greatly from the ordeal.
I’ve just started researching my lineage. I always thought it was mainly Irish. I’m finding out that it’s more British and Scottish. I’m a descendant of the Plantagenets, Scottish kings back to William l, Malcom l and Constantine King of the Picts.
starts with a French dude taking England. ends with another French dude taking England from him..... last words in narrative, "England now ruled by the French"? now, my silly comment out of the way, I was very entertained while being educated. thanks!
Ironic that the last likely true Plantagenet heir is something equivalent to a customs official or something in Australia and part of the movement for anti-Monarchical Republicanism in the British former Empirical sphere.
*The Profile of the Human Ego Mind" a far more accurate title."* Well, there the lineage of the behaviors that came to represent "Britain", less than 2% of the original English Male DNA remains today, (the Maternal line remains in tact). Germanics, "all the invasions of England were Germanics: the Early Romans, Vikings, Anglo, Saxon, Jutes, Danes, and Normans, all *Germanics".*
should have kept elinor and removed the heads of his older kids, then informed the danes to come raid the monastery who whipped him and had it removed from the land. see Elinor was brighter than Henry and knew how to keep things going.
Scholars haven't referred seriously to the "dark ages" for decades. You should probably read up on some academic sources before you try making real documentaries... you have a lot of money to pour into these, evidently, so there is little excuse for using such outdated langauge. You should pour some of that money into research on the subject matter.
@@MissMarie1377 Thank you. I am autistic and notoriously bad at spelling. My father was worse: he once asked someone if you spell 'coffee' with one 'v' or two?
@@abhinavjha3082 Well, if they are referring to 'the dark ages' and they don't literally exist, then I don't see how you can argue that the content is factually correct.
"The Lion in Winter" gives a very entertaining rendition of Henry's conflict with his wife and sons. Excellent movie from 1968 starring Katharine Hepburn and Peter O'Toole.
@@makharena5553 Yup, alot were cousins and all knew each other and intermarried. I've done a ton of work on my family trees to the best I can on those families of those times. They're very mixed within the same families.
@@johndenton4952 yeah you actually. Go read about which dynasty adopted English as its official court language. It was the Plantagenets specifically Henry IV. Before that England spoke a mix of Anglo Saxon with some Scandinavian influence and official court language was Northern French. Who propelled England into a great power during the Middle Ages? The Angevins of course. Why were they called the Angevins? Because they were from the county of Anjou in France. At one point the Plantagenets a line from the Anjou Angevins claimed the royal throne of France, which we know as the 100 years war, between the English royal house of Plantagenets and French royal house of Valois.
@@HEEHEEBOII its hard to say the “French nobility formed England” when it had as many outside factors as it did after the initial celts. They played a major part but it was not the only outside factor
@@masondineen7 Not really, actually Kings and Generals released a good summary. Celts influenced maybe cultural aspects but the nobility was almost completely wiped out except Brittany, Wales, Scotland, and Ireland. For England itself, it's arguably more Saxon than Celts. Nobility wise, in the 10th century due to marriage with French nobility, the English royal line was mostly of French and Norman origin. For example, as I have mentioned, William the Conqueror, and then the Angevin line from Anjou which gave us the Plantagenets. Even the Tudors, which resulted from the merge of the house of Lancaster and York which were cadet branches from the House of Plantagenets, which were of French origin. I think it wasn't until the Victorian era where their royal house are a cadet branch from a German nobility, I could be wrong though, I am not much interested in Victorian era English history.
Dan Jones is definitely one of my favorite history narrators from the UK... which is actually saying something, given the absolutly disproportionate number of them.
i don't understand how there isn't a tv shows on the Plantagenets, if done in a similar quality to this documentary it would be better than 95% of existing series!
It’s all one thing. We are world history in the making and it’s always attached to what went before because it never ends and it goes in cycles. The best way to understand what’s happening today is by looking at history. It all just repeats really.
Dan has written a couple of excellent books, in case you love books, as I do! I've re-read almost all of them back to back, and it's fun to have this documentary available. Royals are STILL having brother issues too. 😉 History repeats itself. 😹
Awesome history of Henry 2nd and Elinor of Aquitaine my 37th great-grandparents via John. I so wanted to know this history but for the first time I understand the intricacies involved. Thank you, and looking forward to the follow-up on John.
Poor guy. Could you imagine your wife and children going against you like that? Shows what greed does to people. Sometimes in total control you have none I guess
Dan Jones's presentations grit my teeth - they're classed as "docu-drama". - hence all the 3rd rate actors screaming and clashing swords. Annoying and unnecessary.
This is part of my family loved hearing their stories. No kingdom could even compete with them. Except Jesus Christ who is the real king of kings forever amen
The Middle Ages are so fun to learn about. If you don’t mind a little speculation mixed into your history I suggest checking out The White Queen. It’s a mini series about the war of the roses and it’s amazing! Also there is a mini series you can find here in RU-vid, the Devils Crown. It’s this exact story, (12 episodes) I’ve watched it three times already, it’s great.
I read Anya Seton's book "Katherine" when I was 12 and became a raving fan of the Plantagenets as it is set in the latter 1300s. Everyone comes alive. Since that 1954 book there have been corrections to the actual history of Katherine Swynford, but the people and tone of the times portrayed in that book is what made me want to know more.
I love this channel, but I wish the playlists were labeled by date/era vs just era so I can then view in a chronological order by date and see the evolution thru the ages of time. Plz go back and relabel the playlists to include dates so we can view in a chronological order. This is great work! Thank you much.
Very well explained, I greatly enjoyed it. As I always say, reality surpasses fiction. I have also watched the French documentary on RU-vid, Secrets d’histoire-Alienor d’Aquitaine, centered on Henry’s wife. These two posts complement each other perfectly. Will definitely see your following posts too! New subscriber here.
Wait a minute, the fact that Henry had control of half of France not mentioned as a reason why the French King was encouraging Henry’s sons to revolt? No no, much more likely that Louis’s macho pride has been hurt because he was not able to father sons with Eleanor! Well I’m glad you put me straight on that , Dan.
Lmao, this is like the Targareyans. They tore each other apart while clawing and ripping their way to the Iron Throne. Thing is, the only ones that stood in they're way was their own blood... and Dragons lol.
England began as a French colony, or - as the former French president Georges Clemenceau expressed it - "England is nothing else than a former French colony that went bad". And you know what? - Clemenceau was right.
I'm a Scottish American, the first generation of my family to be born in the US. So it is in my DNA to hate the British. But man, they have one soap opera of a history! And as much as I dislike them, I can't look away. Fascinating to think that all of this actually happened! Between family members no less! I can understand having a fall out with your family member, but this? This goes beyond my pay grade. I cannot wrap my head around the way the families treated each other. Wow! Yes, I know the British didn't exactly corner the market in this type of behavior, but they did it better than anyone.
There's alot of Scottish noble families that also descend from French Normans... such as Robert the Bruce, also known as Robert de Brus. It is very probable you will descend from these same families who took over Scotland at the same time William the Conqueror took over England.
@@ruthanneseven Right on!! It's been so much fun for me to learn all of this over the last few years. I'll be studying these families the rest of my life. Best wishes!
The Plantagenets seemed to great luck with their prolific progeny. Wonder why? Was it luck , good genes or hygiene that ensured most of their children lived to a good age?
This is why kings who crown their sons before they die are fools. Claudius had a similar betrayel when he tapped Nero for emperor and in doing set his own death in motion. God save us from the plots of women ambitious for their sons.
Ha I don't get it? The absolute shitstorm before when Tiberius named his successor germanicus in charge of the half, fucking Tiberius mother livia paved the way for Tiberius to become emperor, after freaking augustus, idk claudius weakness is his wife choices but srrsly blamimg women in things is srrsly waving some red flags
I personally have little doubt Henry meant it when he threatened Beckett via his knights and knew what was going to happen. It's surprising Beckett didn't seem to realize he was courting his own destruction or else a perverse martyr complex took hold of him, which was just vanity run amuck.