The Risks of Overpopulation 

Didn't expect you to be here you are like one of my favs on youtube and i'm just doing homework

For me it's already fast paced.

2 billion when my parents were in school. 4 billion when I was in school. 8 billion while my children are in school. I expect 16 billion when my future grandchildren go to school. Or perhaps not. Our planet doesn't have that much carrying capacity. One way or another, some of those billions will just have to go.

about 1 billion in 11 years: 5 bn in 1987 6 bn in 1999 (+1bn in 12 years) 7 bn in 2011 (+1bn in 12 years) 8 bn in 2022 (+1bn in 11 years) The increase is slowing down now also in absolute numbers, and it's estimated that the next billion - the 9 bn mark - will be reached in about 13 or 14 years.

​@@pwnmeisterageNo, the world population will not reach 16 billion. With the current development of birthrates, population estimations usually predict the world population to peak between 10 and 11 billion, in about 50 or 60 years from now. It's now rather not expected to go beyond 11 billion, and very unlikely to exceed 12 or 13 bn.

​@@tobyk.4911 I've seen the graphs, the published results of studies, etc. They all suggest/predic a population cap around 11 or 12 billion before a steady decline. I think that's unrealistically optimistic. I've seen world population double every generation, I think it's foolish to assume it won't double again in the next generation.

@@pwnmeisterage apparently you are assuming that the world population is increasing exponentially - but that's not the reality. We are not in the 1960s or 1970s anymore. The growth rate has dropped considerably in the last 50 years. Especially, in the last 30 years there was not an exponential increase, but rather a linear increase (by about 80 million per year). Btw., If this increase would continue at this rate, this would of course mean that the population would double / grow from 8 to 16 bn in a hundred years (much more than one generation).

Yup, here in Nov 2019, when we're at 7.7 billion.

This is probably a subject that should get periodically mentioned. You know, because it's the root cause or a major factor in extinctions, climate change, and political extremism.

@@MacHippy-qk4pr ...What. How are American politics a major factor of possible extinctions or climate change?

@@IceNixie0102 here in July 21 2020 . . . 7,799,660,007 soon to be 7.8 billion

7 billion people seems like not that long ago. Almost just yesterday. And already the world has shot up to a whopping 7.8 billion people? But I am very pro-life, and I very much agree with the huge numbers of people who have objections to all methods of birth control. I very much agree with people having naturally-large families, so that more people in the world can become alive. I very much agree with the human life becoming more and more and with not trying to somehow "control" the human fertility. Let the world population naturally push up and up. More and more people would be glad to live. It was officially just 7 billion people, in the year 2011.

21619thedude fat people want to be fat. You are not physically limited to be overweight. The struggle to live is the only worthy scenario of the human race. Gluttony and social irresponsibility is not.

Arturo Rincon hang on a min, 'fat people want to be fat' no, sorry, thats like saying sick people want to die, just coz im of the normal/ healthy wieght of a boy my age doesnt mean I want tobe fat

Reece Burns it's just simple physics, stop giving energy to an object and its mass will decrease. In the moment you involve other factors to cover up the lack of personal responsibility, well then you start a never ending loop that will chase you all your life. Start now, the only way to solve a problem is to face it.

Arturo Rincon Well spoken.

Arturo Rincon Actually, there are some people with disorders that make it incredibly hard and even impossible to keep yourself at a normal weight.

Wow, that's something to think...

Not all. Some of them died :)

+Draoxx Many of them, even.

note that that number represents the NET change of population. So the newborn babies MINUS all the people that die.

well im guessing most of them died already (hopefully)

rachel b aww, happy birthday

Well actually statistically speaking 3% of them did not make it to 6.

Charlie C that’s deep... life is precious but.... it’s terrible that child mortality is so high in some countries like, those kids could’ve been somebody one day!! We are all unique, complex minded creatures with emotions and different personalities. It’s heart breaking but.. we cant do anything about it. Sadly all those kids are just a addition to a statistic now. They are decayed and gone forever; they can’t and never will live again. I can’t go on any further m8. I was just venting, I hope you got my point. It truly is extremely heart breaking when put into deep thought.

beastmaztr 02 It's not deep, it's statistics

We got more land then can imagine. Is not need of depopulation. But all we want is to live in the big citys. If you cross Texas with 70 miles per h takes 11 hours. We got lend everywhere more then neigh.The best workers on Our land to depopulate are C.P.S and A.C..S they make you not to have children anymore.

***** The agricultural market is not free at all. It's heavly subsidised, otherwise farmers in Europe couldn't make a living.

basically give the job to the guy and not the moneyp

Cheap stuff is thanks to low wages in the 3rd world, you can't make everybody rich. Starving people are paying your high standard of living, so Malthus was correct.

So it is the fault of China and soon India?! All of those no-longer poor people want to have cars and eat meat and refrigerate their food and heat/air-condition their houses... Speaking as a person in China, we have all those nice things now.

@@comicsans3845 Lol as if it wasn't the case for most of human history.

Adopting is tough sometimes.

Matthew Riddell because of qualifications? if so, figures.....

+opsonicfan358 Many people in the developed world are doing that, particularly vegans. It's the people living in places like Africa who have no education or access to birth control that are causing population levels to sky rocket.

One of my classmates have 8 siblings despite both parents having bachelors degrees. Their religion is why she has 8 siblings

Yuenning Che ... how does that work? what, do they not believe in birth control, or was it on purpose all/most of those times?

Lmao 12 and they all lived.

If you had 15 babies and the industrial revolution happens say goodbye to them inside those factories boy, those children will not be living. You know initially the industrial revolution lowered living standards by a lot, right?

Actually quite beautiful that even more billions of people can live. Beautiful blossoming of human life. I have long advocated that people have larger families, because more and more people would be glad to live. Also, very many people really do not like birth control, and are open to having possibly-larger families. As a pro-lifer, I very much welcome the burgeoning world population size to climb naturally and freely. Let people increasingly fill the world. Build more cities. Put people wherever that we can. Encourage massive and persistent baby booms. Improve population accommodation, but encourage the people to multiply more naturally and rapidly. Marry younger and welcome precious babies to freely push out, shunning any means of anti-life anti-family birth control. I see the natural expansion of human life, as something beautiful to welcome and celebrate. Which of us is not important? Because we humans are created in God's image, that makes all humans valuable and sacred also.

@@yosefmacgruber1920 it's the cause for humanity's own downfall, societal, and resources then economy. When a population goes unchecked then their own species will eventually wipe themselves out.

We have now over 8 billion people as of this reply

@@m_rissspeedruns1231 WE NEED 6 BILLION HUMAN GENOCIDE

@@lilphilosophy481 It's estimated that the earth's carrying capacity for the human species lies between 11 and 13 billion people. That's assuming, of course, that we live sustainably and in harmony with nature, or at least not against nature.

Do you have any idea how much that would cost? Free-energy self-drive flying cars, would be a lot more practical. At least most people would actually much enjoy that. The idea of getting rid of streets and roads would be to clear more land to make way for the rising human population. Think of the that space for building lots more houses. We won't need roads anymore, when cars take off vertically and fly to anywhere that you want. Hasn't anybody seen The Jetsons cartoon, with all of those flying cars?

+Yosef MacGruber you are right. The price would be high, but the savings in energy when we can evacuate the air...

Will it cost anymore than the global increase in climate controlled systems and water scarcity solutions due to global warming. I'm leaning on the side of letting more renaturalization.

Brotherhood of Steel Global warming has been debunked. The stupid theory would die quicker than the apparently-embarrassingly-wrong ozone depletion hole theory got swept under the rug, if it wasn't for the liberal socialist/communist wealth redistributing issue that really underlies it. Just like a mother's belly "great with child" just needs to bulge, it would be far better and easier and more natural, to let the planet naturally or proudly "bulge with people" than it would be to scheme and conspire as to how to supposedly control our rising numbers. People are supposedly highly intelligent, and can and should be expected to *adapt*.

Yosef MacGruber Global warming hasn't been debunked. The ozone hole was due to CFC's which were banned by the Kyoto and Montreal protocols. I'm not saying it's the end of Earth. Humans will adapt and survive; There is no reason we can't. However, Climate change is happening. This is the 13th consecutive hottest month on record. For Clarity, *That means breaking the avg. global temperature record for every single month has been broken 13 times in a row. From 1880-2015 14 of the last 15 years are all record breakers. Meaning *14/15* years have been the hottest in over 135 years. The statistical odds of that happening on a global scale is statistically impossible. This isn't even including the runaway effect of increased water vapor in the air, which is the most effective greenhouse gas. Not to mention geological records showing strong correlative data between carbon parts per million and temperature rises. Carbon dioxide has hovered around 270 ppm over 1000 years, it's also now at 400ppm. This is beyond reasonable proof.

It is better to have larger families. More and more people would be glad to live. "Death control" is a reference to Malthusian anti-population dogma, which has never been proven to be true. There are other population theories. Look into Boserub.

***** Sure, I would much rather that the human race freely naturally grow wild into the trillions of people, than to push people to use nasty birth control that they don't want. Yet we humans actually multiply so slowly, compared to other creatures, don't expect to see trillions of people, within the foreseeable future, certainly not within our expected lifespans. The natural blossoming of the already-huge size of the human population, is actually quite beautiful. Do you not see anything curious or amazing or sacred, about human life?

John Scott no war would lead to a faster global population

Chris Huot i think

John Scott is better birth control and death control has same production like birth 2,5 and death 2,5 is much better so the population is stable

More hank green

Thats like saying water is wet, we know

@@mcgrath131 water isn't wet and can't get wet unless you put oil on it

So what? Even if we eat 100% of the food, it doesn't magically help starvation in poor countries.

Floris I think the point is that we GIVE our leftovers to starving people.

Usually left over food in restaurants and stores like walmart or Sam's, it is placed in a special trash and tranported to farms to feed our future food

Actually, it is eaten, but not by humans. It is eaten by domesticated animals. Which in turn is eaten by us. So that's why we say that a lot of our food is wasted. Hank talks about it in the video.

We need to start wasting less food then. We all need to think before buying, especially fresh food, to make sure you can actually eat it before it gets spoiled. And also the date label is something you should ignore if the food seems otherwise fine. The store should also try to manage the food better, and not throw away perfectly edible food for being one day past the date

Why is the beauty of human life, madness, in your confused view?

***** Why do you poo-poo the sacredness and beauty of human life? Isn't that really dishonest?

why are you being a pain in the ass? Its really dishonest.

Still 750+ died so not that bad

Yosef MacGruber if we keep reproducing as much as we do we'll need 2 earths to actually keep everybody healthy and well fed ... but we're stuck with 1 ... we need to stop because we don't have enough space anymore ...

There are no brakes on the insane train Andy, the only stop is slightly down the tracks where that neglected section is going to buckle under our weight. We'll derail with a massive explosion, fire and screams, at least it'll all be over quickly.

@@adolin1338 Press "X" to jump to horse

thanks andy. you're the man

@@bdogman *tips hat*

Or just let the world population naturally and freely increase. It will work out.

I wanna know too

lol how did I not notice that!?

Ha omg its so weird

Gotta blast!

peculiargoldfish lel

woni bio I am offended, you are trying to kill Asians? That’s racist too. And killing either might have a negative effect

There is a babe in your picture

Lane Moje 🤔🤔🤔

pope is an idiot,

Totally agree. We need birth control at this point, both to save society as a whole in the long run, and for each individual to not have their lives ruined by a child they werent ready for, or the children themselves to suffer neglect from unprepared parents or living in an orphanage. Those who opposes birth control is a cause of major problems in this world, and without even having a good reason

Super bacteria, run Mars, RUN!!

Maybe we will "event" it by mistake...

If a bacterium in a jar doubles every minute but is very small and it's taken a year to fill the jar to half-full, how long does it take to fill the jar completely? 1 minute. A minute before that it was 1/4 full. A minute before that 1/8 full. It's 2018 now , with 7.6 billion growing at over 1% per year. That doubles in less than 70 years. This will take as many resources as were consumed during all previous doubling periods if rates of consumption stay the same. ( See Al Bartlett's presentations.) Population tripled since 1950 by the by.

So allow and encourage human populations to double and redouble again. More and more people would be glad to live. The world is not some tiny jar. Bad metaphor.

The bacteria all suddenly die once they use up all the resources in the dish. Just sayin...

education is the correct answer, but also the difficult answer. education paves the way for the future, but doesnt do anything now, meaning knowing how to read and write doesnt stop you from getting hungry.

So all the stupid people continue having babies and all the smart people die off? Sounds like a great idea.

Just get a wife and let her take care of your children, that's the solution

You do realize that the most successful of the species having the most children is how we even evolved to be as smart as we are right? Do you really want us to get dumber now?

"We" aren't smarter people. Some people are smart for sure, but that vast majority of people alive now are not. I have one child and my son is always at the top of his class in every subject. He has attended schools with kids from various socioeconomic backgrounds and almost without exception kids from larger families are less intelligent, if not nearly mentally handicapped to great extent. There is also research indicating that older siblings from larger families regress to lower vocabulary proficiency due to parent's use of language with the younger children-think how people talk to babies and that is what older children emulate.

Cool! People should have even more babies. More and more people would be glad to live.

Yosef MacGruber NO. Don't you see? THERE'S 7 BILLION PEOPLE IN THE EARTH. I think that's ENOUGH for now. 4 BABIES ARE BORN PER SECOND, IS THAT ENOUGH!?!?

Yosef MacGruber There's kids waiting to be adopted, too, and saying "birth control is awkward, unnatural, and 'crap'" just makes population control look bad when it is not.

***** Ignorance is not an argument. Population control is tyranny, and there are numerous books that tell you how bad it is, yet people choose to be uneducated and do not read such books? I have many such books. Do you want book titles and authors? Or if you simply do a simple search on YT, something like "nwo depopulation" or "population control", you can find ample examples of how bad government violence, depopulation schemes, and population control is. What if your parents had 3 children, and some cruel government mandated only 2? Do you think a stupid wicked government will say "pretty please"? Or will they say, "Well you must be special, so you can have 3"? Do I have to explain how this is a setup for government violence and needless conflict? There are no practical nor moral ways by which to control human population growth. Most normal people are *against* population control of humans. The reasons to me, seem rather obvious. And regardless, birth control is awkward, unnatural, and crap.

Yosef MacGruber That is a big lie and you should feel bad. More and more people are switching to population control the momment as we speak, 4 babies are born per second, and that is enough. Way too many people are in the planet. WE DON'T NEED MORE PEOPLE. God mentions abortion and how it is allowed. Women only paid 10 shekels for an abortion, bitter water would abort a fetus if it was concieved from adultery (rape) and God told some men to rip open the pregnant women for some reason in egypt. You were lying about reading the bible, and you would know this if you read it right. So basically your calling God unnatural. Hyprocrite. Using the word "crap" and "awkward" makes you look like a 11 year old playing minecraft while getting slain by a zombie.

we have it the 3rd world countries that keep on having when they don't have money.

Mrbrain bob Hi, I live in what you call a 3rd world country and fuck you :) . Stop wasting the water of my unborn kids and we'll do it fine. I don't want kids either way, but my sister does...so stop wasting the water of my unborn nephew.

***** lOOOLL You made my day!!!

***** Are you a troll? Because I don't think people from third world countries are able to go online and argue on RU-vid.

Mrbrain bob think again, moron. Oh...and we can also speak english as a second language.

willy wonka and then earth will finally be happy again after it got rid of us 😂

Changing our landscaping norms would put a big dent in the fresh water problem. Also finding ways to deal with industrial overuse of water. Oil we actually don't need. Green energy tech is there. We just have to use it. Overall, resource allocation is the real problem.

If stopped trapping fresh water it would help a lot. Do some simple calculations concerning water that we have removed from the environment. Literally trillions of gallons of fresh water are trapped in things like: bottles of water, water heaters (40-50gls each times the number of homes and buildings on earth, pipes in the ground, pools, pipes in houses and buildings, radiators in vehicles, bottles of beer soda wine etc. And of course the number of animals, including humans, that are 70% water has risen exponentially. If the average person weighs say 150 lbs, water is 8lbs/gal, there is 18.5 gals per human times 7 billion that’s about 125 billion gals. Do the same math for cattle, pigs, chickens, dogs, cats etc and you have a lot of water. Combine that with all the water trapped in stuff I listed first and you come up with trillions of gals of fresh water not in the environment any longer. Might be the cause of droughts and other climate changes.

Drinking water cant be grown, but it can be recycled, which it actually has for millions of years, its not something we run out of. We could run out of oil, but we already seem to be moving in the direction of more and more electricity and other forms of fuel and less oil. So it shouldnt be a huge problem. But we may face other problems with overpopulation

You can also make sea water drinkable via desalination. Countries such as Israel and Antiqua and Barbuda already get the majority of their drinking water this way

Made my day :)

Ralegade Bro they are babies

statistics like those are always a bit misleading, because you can generally buy more for a dollar in poor countries (I admittedly do not know a lot about Kenya, so if it is not a poor country, I apologize). Especially for goods, which can be locally produced. That is why the Big-Mac-Index is often used (Mc Donalds is everywhere, and produces somewhat locally). So an american homeless person living on one dollar would have a harder time than someone from a very poor country. Anyways, I just wanted to clarify that. I was not trying to say, that you don't have it very hard. You can be very proud of yourself for making it through such hard times. I wish you and your family good luck for your future.

Just looked it up, the big mac index is 0.48$ in Kenya, so you lived on the equivalent of two dollars compared to an american homeless person. That still is an insanely low amount. Again, I am glad that you made it through it. May I ask, how you did that? Does your family have animals or a farm or something like that, or did you really buy all food etc from that 100 shillings? Do you have a job somewhere, or was it saved money? (And how much does a normal job pay in your country?) Again, I hope I am not too rude by asking all these questions. I have just read the wikipedia page of Kenya, and it looks like a very interesting country, so I am curious... Good luck to you and your family

@@aldoushuxley5953 Yeah , it was kind of tough , but It was also kind of fun cause I had friends to wade through the daily hustle . Am currently in Germany pursuing Robotics Engineering in German :D, (came here by sheer luck and timing). Many families get to live a better life in the long run , and standards of living rise per generation. We own a farm but it isn't productive, that's the case with many families as its easier to earn a living in a blue or white collar job ( a paradigm that should change sooner than later) . As for the 100shillings, I remember you had to forgo lunch or have a fruit with tea which costs 10shillings , breakfast cost about 20shillings and we had supper with my pals, which made it cheaper. The biggest cost was rent , and I used to work for rent. The work I did then was to try (I learnt as I went on with the task ) to write software solutions to a certain company and get paid , I also dubbed in other informal economic activities if need be. If you have questions I'd love to answer them for you

@@mberoakoko24 Hey, I am in Germany too :D What state do you live in? I study physics in Heidelberg (Baden Würtemberg) I am very glad to hear that you are doing better, and robotics is an extremely interesting subject! Is the productivity of the farm a technological problem (or international competition), or is it hard to perform agriculture in Kenya in general (because of the soil, the temperature etc. ..)? That sounds very hard! I didn't even remember rent. Wow! It is very interesting to me that you had to live of so little as a software engineer. To be honest, I did not picture you to be so educated. Naively, I would have guessed, that as a programmer, one could compete on the international market and take jobs for american companies, if need be. Anyways, glad you were able to make it and guten Morgen I guess ^^ How comfortable are you in your german? Do you prefer to keep this conversation in english?

@@mberoakoko24 Oh, and perhaps more importantly: - What do you think of Germany? - What do you think of the Germans? - Is there something Kenya can learn from Germany? - Is there something Germany can learn from Kenya?

Frank Coles Actually, the problem is not overpopulation, but over-consumption of a few hundred million people. And the reason is: the monetary-capitalist system is inherently unsustainable, disregarding public-, and ecological health, with resource-, and waste management. Instead of solving problems, it thrives on maintaining them, treating only their symptoms (for profit). Ultimately, our agriculture and transportation is based on Oil, but as Peak Oil will occur in 5-10 years, our whole civilization will collapse with it. Thus, we need to change to a sustainable economy _now_ (e.g. NL/RBE).

CelestialFrost so basically we need to implement a 2-child policy (or at a minimum, a 3-child policy) like yesterday.

+CelestialFrost Jesus christ you're right... that's scary

+CelestialFrost It will actually increase dramatically as progressivism increases and medical science/mass production become more advanced through technology.

+CelestialFrost I'm sure that you are well aware that it will not grow constantly at this rate and that it's going to grow exponentially from this point on

+Fred Laff immortality by 2040..

It would be a temporal solution, just until we reach the same point again and again.

Erase those who are Not Worthy.

Thanks aldready tried it

Let wars happen.....😁

@@OpinioNaty If the human population needs to be so big, then let it be and enjoy being so big.

Nah man I think it would be better to starve them. You don't want nuclear fallout.

@@lukidwiputra4644 No 'Fission is needed. Ask a german: HCN works.

Starve who the US or Europeans?

so fucking true

+Cerebral Amount of children born should not be decided by the parents wealth.

+Revazide Yeah it shouldn't it should be decided if the parents can even take care of the kids.

+helo joeywala Wealth does not determine whether or not a parent can care for a child but that is another subject. We are talking about the species eliminating issue of over population. Educated parents tend (I said tend) to have children in a sustainable way. Education is the thing that can solve this problem. If we don't solve it, natural processes will solve it for us. We will be driven into extinction.

+Adrian White -- You are a perfectly indoctrinated sheeple. The perfect parrot. And thinks for itself just about as much as a parrot.

If we do that with the Electrionics then the companys that make those items, they will lose money... You have to find another way to balance it out so they wont lose money but we can still keep the stuff for longer periods of time.

Viktor Johansson Well the companys do not really need more money. The creators have billions of dollars and could go for a vacation for the rest of their life.

Well, lets look at it from this perspective, whatever country you live in, that country wants you to buy products, because they tax those products and if your TV does not brake as fast, you won't buy a new one? Right? And then the economy of where ever you come from will be in a bad state. TL;DR Whatever country you come from they want you to buy more products because they tax products, if stuff doesn't brake as fast, we wont buy as much.

Viktor Johansson so to overcome that problem, you simply raise the income tax, or whatever really

Lindholmer5k Raising taxes forces people below the poverty line. Falling sales and rising prices also forces people below the poverty line. More people below the poverty line means more people on welfare. More people on welfare means more government debt. Government debt + Falling sales + rising taxes = Austerity, that funny economic practice Europe has been using under the assumption that by reducing business now they can regrow in the long term. Instead unemployment and rioting have skyrocketed, scores of educated uni students have emigrated causing a brain drain effect, governments have collapsed, right wing nationalist parties have grown immensely and in general you don't want to live in any of the PIIGS nations.

Don't hate on Christianity friend. It's reasonable for a person who believes in a god of some sort believes that luck alone wouldn't be enough to end up in a relatively good place to live in comparison to other parts of the world

oh yes, bash the Christians, who have nothing to do with this video whatsoever.

Well I am not Christian and nor Atheist I am a Muslim if you are curious. But point is not that. First things first because you are a non religious guy (looks like an atheist) stop blaming an average Christian. It is not out of just luck. There are hundreds of millions of Christians in only Nigeria who starve to death and many many more in other parts of Africa. And it maybe true that Europeans are rich that is not because of their religion but because of the industrial revolution. And also there are Hindus, Buddhists and Muslims who are rich too. Just go and verify what you know before speaking.

When someone says that they mean they are lucky to have such a good life and are grateful(most of the time).

Stay blessed.

Not only is that highly immoral, but human population should increase. So we humans eat almost anything that is not other humans. BTW, humans eat but a tiny fraction of the edible plants. I have heard that, for example, dandelions are edible.

Cannibalism leads to brain rot and death.

@@hainleysimpson1507 Good! It'd help even more with the population.

I concur

Who do you think is responsible for the birth control availability problem in Africa? The Catholic Church. The Pope unambiguously tells people not to use condoms because they're evil. Hitch was right - religion poisons everything.

***** I disagree. They listen because they are told if they use condoms they will go to Hell. Which is of course a lie. If religion didn't exist I doubt anyone will be telling them condoms are evil.

subnetme The Catholic Church does not have a monopoly on religion. Read a book or something.

subnetme Before religion, there was no birth control, no science, no civilization. Godless people just beat each other with clubs and slept in caves and straw huts. Religionless people weren't the most sophisticated bunch, lol.

subnetme why did you have to bring religion in here? god, so now it is their fault that the governments of underdeveloped countries are lazy and do not want to spend money on education and birth control because they are saving it for their Bahama's houses? What does religion have to do with that?

more like a single city, somewhere in the world, will randomly explode. Each city will be chosen once a week to balance out the rate of loss to the rate of gain.

how bout an induced zombie apocalypse

Yeah I don't think the UN is going to ban sex (a lot a country's don't have birth control)

Look at Japan's birth and death statistics. Good Night.

but it is exponential growth

+Christian Ludvigsen Yeah, what the fuck is up with that.

+Jared Vass Doooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooont worry guys, its not about the length :)

+Christian Lugvigsen Fucking lol

The science of seaman and egg joining.

That moment when some1 has triplets.

Action4 Jackson are you nitpicking because you disagree with overpopulation? Because of course i'm not going to tell someone "omg why did you have triplets??" Come on dude...seriously?? There's a BIG difference between someone having triplets versus a person who is too stupid or too lazy or too selfish (or a combination of all 3) to put on a condom and end up producing tons of kids.

Sean Armstrong sorry..... Dude I was just joking.

+Sean Armstrong Legislating that could easily prove disastrous. Voluntary reductions via the culture (e.g. Japan) would probably work better. It is possible for people to simply not want sex, contrary to what culture keeps telling us. Part of it too is the environment. Sex has a ton of psychological effects, not all of which are known. Japan is most certainly an overpopulated country, and interest in sex has been reported to be low. Japan has a more or less stable government, China has a long history of human rights violations, and India is a very poor country. So, possibly a combination of stable livelihoods with overpopulation in the immediate vicinity leads to a natural tendency to not want kids. If this is the case, all we need to do is provide human rights and a stable environment and wait. In any case, the population will limit itself one way or another.

101jir The problem is WHEN will the population limit itself? Japan only starts to limit when cities like Tokyo become UNBEARABLY CROWDED. If you ever travel in Tokyo or other major big cities in Japan, you will know that it is so uncomfortable that I don't see how anybody can stay there for a living. So to answer your question: yes, most populations will indeed limit itself, but at what cost? Do we all wait until all our cities become as crowded and as uncomfortable as Tokyo before we realize "hey...maybe we should stop having so many kids..."?? Or can we perhaps act smart and ensure we DON'T reach to that level of critical mass, and everybody walks away with a happier life?

So, what's your solution?

krazymindreader war

Well, that's the thing: I don't necessarily have one, short of extrasolar colonization, which is off the table unless we somehow develop faster-than-light travel capabilities. But I'm hoping for something better than forcibly sterilizing or outright murdering entire third world populations.

Devin Parker that is my solution to all human problems!! but im partial love scifi haha

krazymindreader Education. The populations with the most comprehensive education almost invariably have the lowest birth rate. Effective, cost free, and shame free access to contraception would be another step in the right direction.

If the farmers were left to overfarm they would make another dustbowl.

williamwzl Not necessarily. Tilled yet unplanted, ungrassed fields caused the first one.

If you are only talking about relatively advanced countries.

HenryDavidT Pollution is a different subject from over population, and made no sense to post to this tread. However I agree pollution of our seas or any other resource for that matter is a far greater threat then over population. Human life is short so death due to mankinds' folly is as good a death as any other. Yes it is terrible that man destroys but something was going to kill you sooner or later, dead sea or not. I guess my overall point is stress less, no one gets out of this life alive. Try your best not to pollute and be good to your fellow man, but don't get to up tight, enjoy life while you can. Be part of the solutions and not the problem but in the end know your not even going to live long enough to see things get truly bad so relax. Oh and here's some food for thought. The computer you posted your message to is made in a factory that dumps it's waste so that it ends up polluting the seas so act now get rid of your cars, house, electronics, plastics, cell phone, etc etc all of which lead to the pollution you spoke of. Let me help you brother with the log in your eye.

Boy do you sound like a corporate mouthpiece.

I would argue the industrial revolution had a bigger effect on food production than the agricultural revolution. Calorie for calorie.

Nick Lindsey Have you seen the population of that country, combined with how relatively small they are? One hundred and thirty million people in a space of 375, 000 square kilometres. When you compare them to how densely populated countries such as Australia and the USA are, it is ridiculous. Norway, a beautiful country, known for having the highest standed of living, is larger than Japan and with a much smaller population (not even six million). Japan is NOT EVEN CLOSE TO BEING UNDER POPULATED. We can only support another couple of billion people. Life could become more uncomfortable and important resources could start to run out faster, with more people using them. That could start wars and cause death. Overpopulation is a serious problem ( and please forgive me if this sounds a bit silly or anything, I was typing this late at night).

Nick Lindsey And I do see your point about abandoned buildings in Japan.👺

+Nick Lindsey I see your point.

The problem with Japan is that they are having less young people that can work. Which means that they can't support the elderly and the economy is in crisis.

+Kyle Reese So what if some countries are so human-dense? More and more people would be glad to live. Human life is amazing and beautiful. Let the people grow. There are places all around to put people, even within the most heavily populated regions in the world.

We won't get to that point, we're already at that the point where the only thing that can correct us downwards is a mass death event. Think 1/4+ of the worlds population. I hope not to see that in my lifetime, but the trends strongly suggest it.

Jake Heuft We won't get to what point exactly? Also where exactly are you getting your numbers? I am curious as to the math/science behind them.

Look at a graph of human population growth. And then look at these. www.google.com/search?q=population+explosion&espv=2&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=QjeNU-6ePKmhsQTb4YD4Cg&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1680&bih=935#q=population+explosion+graph&tbm=isch Know what comes next? www.google.com/search?q=population+explosion&espv=2&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=QjeNU-6ePKmhsQTb4YD4Cg&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1680&bih=935#q=population+crash+graph&tbm=isch

It makes good sense, but so did the 1 billion mark. They just didn't compensate for technology that was not invented yet. We also have the same handicap. _"We won't get to that point"_ Again what point will we not get to, I am curious

I thought the graphs I posted were pretty clear.... The only way forward is for a population collapse... It again may not happen in our lifetimes, but unless technology advances fast enough the only future for the human race is a catastrophic collapse of it. There are no large scale living systems anywhere that can cope with an exponential population increase and remain stable.

correct. But these people who think we are not overpopulated forget about the law of Supply and demand. More demand = higher costs. when there is not enough food for everyone, & they start growing hungry along with there Litter of Kids, maybe then they might get it. But by then, they will be too busy crying from Hunger like those kids in Africa.

You want to restrain 7 billion people from having too many babies? The reason that developing countries are having more babies is because they need more working hands, which in turn equals more food for family.

Pranay P I am not sure this is correct. In Haiti I have seen almost all the people NOT working because they did not have a place to work and generally this would be true if they would have land to cultivate or animal to grow so they need more people to perform physical labor. I believe they have more kids because they are less educated and have no pills. I have noticed that even in developed countries, the families with more kids are from the poor category.. same reason like lack of education or indifference..

allydea That is very interesting and probably true because I don't have much experience with the third world. So if I am interpreting this right, then the way to end overpopulation would be to give cheap or free birth control options (condoms, and pills). to places that need it, and give talks about sex education on the radio or public talks in 3rd world countries. Due to this being a fairly easy plan, are we (as a planet) putting this into action? Is there more to it than that? Or, are just not putting forth enough effort?

Pranay P It's not so easy, many countries of the third world don't have the income to put this plans into action, they are busy trying to build roads or buy high technology for their industries so that they "may" have a better income and stop being underdeveloped countries. Besides, in most countries of the "third world" corruption takes a big part in politics, so a lot of money we pay from our taxes goes to the politician's houses and families. And the poor are put in such a low category of priorities that even security, sanitation, human rights aren't accesible to them (In Latinamerica, where I come from, the police departament has so much work dealing with drug-mafias that they don't even have time to investigate rapists or murderers) let alone education or birth-control. If Latinamerica, a continent with a relatively low level of poverty faces this kind of problems, I don't want to think about how it is in Africa. To obtain my high school degree in Ecuador I had to do a month of social-help to non-educated people who hadn't finished grade-school. And I found out they were actually well aware of what condoms were and how to use them, and yet, half of the girls in my class had gotten pregnant at 14 or so and had to leave school, get married and have more babies with their husbands.

Parthasarathi Panda businessmen: ooh sounds like an opportunity

An Cap Poverty is the dark side of Greed. and capitalism harbors greed. Im not against employee ownership of the companies they work for, trade and barter systems, or non-fiat currency. Its the "exploitation" of other people's labor to "capitalize" im against.

jumpanama Nobody knows how the 2year old contracted the virus. Ebola can be the result of poverty, natural bacteria, pharmaceutical waste, or ancient DNA. Could Cancer and Obesity be the result of a glutinous plastic society? ANyway, you are talking 2013 problems -post GENerations of political (capitalist) corruption, mostly brought about by our government infiltrating, instigating, arming, and funding wars (for capitalist purposes). Like An Cap said, capitalism existed since mideival times -and i would argue even further back to the greeks and egyptians. ...loong before the ebola virus. The "poor" people are the victims caught between the wars for power. If left alone they'd have a better space to thrive. Thriving doesnt nec mean iPhones and petroleum.

jumpanama I think you are skimming without actually reading. I'll try to write simple for you. The US is in debt trillions of dollars. It is a facade collapsing in on itself that can only survive by expanding and consuming (aka colonizing, exploiting, and depleting the resources of) other lands. Then there is the war economy... Am i getting too complicated for you? America's wealth stands on the exploitation of its own people as well as those of other countries. We perpetuate their poverty rates through purchase of products made by slave labor in those countries. -Or by infiltrating their governments and corrupting any attempt to build with the people (for capitalist purposes).

jumpanama The communism that russia claimed is not true communism. Just like the democracy in america is not a true democracy. Cronyism is the placement of "friends" (aka cronies) to official positions despite their qualifications. Yes there is defnilly much of that going on ...along with oligarchy, patriarchy, fascism, elitism, and whatever other words you want to use meaning greed. "Defnilly" means definitely, in case you "dint" understand my deliberate bastardization of this colonizer language.

jumpanama The fruit bat theory is one theory. Probably true. So how was a bat infecting a child a result of poverty? MAyb if they had better facilitated hospitals it could have been quarantined faster, but that is after the infection occurred. I guess capitalism could have prevented the outbreak by pushing the bats out of their environment rendering them endangered or extinct altogether. But then again, maybe the bat caught it from genetically modified food waste??

yeah wtf. talk a bout underhanded advertising

If you look up the domain on the internet archive, you'll see that in 2012 it was in fact a link shortener. That means that he used that site to shorten the link to the document back then, and someone has since bought the domain and made that Instagram follower site. There's not any advertising involved.

who would love buy youtube red while the process?

We need to keep multiplying as more and more people would be glad to live. Put people into more places. There are places all around to put more people.

Yosef MacGruber yea but one of the major fighting points of pop reg supporters is that we're killing off other species, we are in fact encrouching on their habitats as we expand our cities and suburbs into, which is why people in florida end up with gators in their pools and people in CA wake up to a coyote outside of their front door, of course theres more than enough room for us on the planet, but we're fuckin up the biosystem

PB42189 And how does that concern, in any way justify population regulation? How many animals vote or pay taxes? Shouldn't our elected representatives, represent the humans who put them into office? If there is supposedly less room for wildlife, that still does not mean that babies nor parents are in any way to blame. And obviously, much of the reason we are needing to expand, is that there is just getting to be so many of us. That doesn't mean that that we shouldn't multiply, nor that we are supposedly "too many", but rather, population is just huge, and that is the way that it is. Our ancestors viewed population, as population is what it is. They would be shocked at the bizarre idea of somehow "controlling" rising human numbers, as even family size was thought *uncontrollable*. Also, you are wrong to call land "their" land in referring to animals. Animals can not legally "own" land. When we cut down trees to build more houses, the squirrels and birds just go elsewhere. And besides, those small animals seem to coexist well with humans, as they live in our backyards. They would multiply if they could. Many animals have short life span compared to people. If a person gets a pet dog, they have to give some thought as to "replacing" that dog, painful as it may be, as we know that we likely will greatly outlive the dog. The dog will get old and die, while we are still young. Animals do not go around thinking about high-level abstract stuff like, "The human population is just getting so amazingly big." Rather, if animals can not find territory, they just do not reproduce. They would still have that problem, if humans did not exist at all. Most animals do not get to reproduce, at all. Aren't you glad that you are not an animal? The encroachment of gators and coyotes, is *not* caused by humans just becoming increasingly just everywhere, nor because wild animals can not find any space. Wild animals would multiply and multiply until every wild place is filled with them. So how do you blame humans, for taking away a little bit of space? No, I think why we hear occasionally of some wild bear or something, wandering around the city, is for basically 2 possible reasons. • Stupid idiots were feeding bears, and the bears become confused and associate people with food. Also, it is a huge no-no to feed gators. It turns them into dangerous pests and they end up getting shot. We also should not feed wild animals, because it a natural signal to them to multiply more so, and then they are unable to adapt when winter comes, and so they die needlessly. (Humans are highly adaptable, and human life is sacred, thus we should ever feed humans.) • I also have a theory, that human population is now just so huge, that the human scent is increasingly filling the entire atmosphere. The scent of humans wafts in from every direction, and animals of which much of their world is scent, get confused and can not find the direction to get away from the human scent. If they go in the direction of leaving the city, the animal smells human scent from the other surrounding cities, or that from the entire biosphere. Having fewer children, does nothing to address this, for the human population continues on growing, growing in almost all countries. And the human population remains huge anyhow. If you think that the human scent is not becoming quite strong all through the globe, then tell me, what does the air smell like then? Does it smell like a fresh forest smell? Not so much. Does it smell like pollution? Not so much, at least in in Western countries that have largely cleaned up pollution problems. No, I think the air smells like people, but our sense of smell is weak, and we get used to scents that are ever around us, so it is hard to tell on a conscious level. If dogs could talk, they might say that the entire planet reeks of people, except that dogs like people, so they are not so much complaining. Also, I suspect that humans can smell human pheromones, at least on the subconscious level, so young guys do not get spontaneous erections for just "no reason", but rather because they constantly smell people all around, who are fertile and "in heat", ever ready tor reproduce, and it makes us all the more horny or easily sexually-aroused. I wouldn't know how to prove this human-scent theory, as the human population keeps rising. We can't go back in time, and measure if this effect was in the past, less pronounced. But my theory defends allowing and encouraging people to just let their babies pump out freely, as we really can't so much control it, nor can we control our rising numbers. Nor do I see it as "bad". It is human-beneficial and natural. In support of my human-scent prevalence theory, I think of an anecdotal observation of somebody who told me in some forum, that humans are having more sex than in the past. Hmm. I wonder why that might be? But when I asked him, saying that was curious, does he have any evidence to support that theory?, I do not recall ever getting an answer to that question. Sure, I suspect human sexual activity could be majorly on the rise, many married people now literally mate daily, however I wouldn't know how to measure this trend. Where is there any reliable baseline to compare against? The "solution" should be obvious. It is the fellow humans who need to increase. If animals supposedly get crowded out, then be glad that you are not an animal. Besides, most animals are not very population-efficient, compared to humans. A single wild elephant can steal up to 400 pounds of food per night, from a poor person's garden. An obvious intolerable situation, that is solved by reducing the elephant population, and not the human population. You think it should be obvious by now, it is a *human* world.

Yosef MacGruber im not readin all that man, but just by skimming through your response you have absolutely no clue why its an important topic, aside from the deranged animal lovers, variation is actually a necessity of a viable and flourishing biosystem, variety of species is actually very important for Human survival, a simple intro to bio course would do you great benefit

PB42189 So which people are you aiming to eliminate? In order to help humans survive, we should allow and help people to survive, yes? So where do you get population control out of that? Or did you think that waving a magic wand, somehow eases the "population pressure" without any pain? You still didn't explain why we supposedly need population regulation?

To all the overpopulation deniers: then go share all your wealth, property, resources among everybody, and shut up and be happy about it.

I actually laughed multiple times throughout the video

They do, according to the demographic transition model.

I hope that's true...

The problem is that most developing countries are stuck where they are. The entire foreign trade system is against them. A majority of what they produce are unprocessed, non-manufactured goods, like raw materials. This is because they don't have the development or the resources to create processed, manufactured goods. Developed countries buy the raw materials from these countries at a cheap price, turn it into something like a computer or a car, and sell it for a higher price. When these processed goods re-enter the global market, they make profit for the developed countries, but they are too expensive for developing countries to invest in. Of course it isn't like they are stuck there forever. Some countries (especially asian countries in the last 60ish years) have been able to break this cycle. However, as a whole, the type of system we have now is rigged in favor of developed countries. What we need to realize in our developed society is that all this poverty and disease isn't someone else's problem, it's our own. I feel like if we want to get to a world like you're talking about where everyone is more or less developed, it is our job to assist in that development. It's not going to happen on its own. Like it was said in the video, the fact that there are so much of us on earth contributes to the gap between the rich and the poor. If we want the '1 billion people' to be fed, the people with the power and money to do it (us) should just do it already!!!

It actually does work lmao

A human-denser world benefits far more people than cruel and deceptive population arbitrary limits. One of very many reasons why I have to favor the natural population expansion. I have long advocated having larger families and watching and better accommodating the natural increase of humans. I very much agree with the huge numbers of people who have various objections against birth control. Most reasons for having more children, are actually quite valid. Also, by this time, having a very populous planet, could seem sort of inevitable anyway? Why fight against what must be, and what is so beneficial to the people? Or even God's doing? So I very much agree with people's big families and countries wanting to increase their already-so-large populations. If even more people can be made to fit, why not?

China's one child policy did work to slow population growth and it wasn't as draconian as westerners paint it. Imagine the mess China would be in if people continued to have 6-7 children per family!

8 now

No -_-

Cause people like sex, but not everyone does it safely

It's a psychological trait for people from poorer places and/or places with high death rates. They have more children because there is a higher chance of one of your offspring surviving past childhood and carrying on your legacy. In richer countries like America we can have less because they will likely live past childhood. Japan is a whole different can of worms, if you want to know a lot more about it VICE did a great documentary on RU-vid as to why Japan isn't procreating.

Because in many of the undeveloped countries and developing countries in the world people see children as a potential asset to aid in hunting and farming whereas in developed nations children are basically seen as just another thing to spend money on, we still love our kids but you get the point. Oh yeah and one more thing, people are horny.

One factor that might have contributed to Japan's negative birth rate is the fact that their median age (44.6 yrs) is the second highest of all countries in the world. More old people = fewer babies. The USA is somewhere in the middle of the list with a median age about 9 years younger. Interestingly enough the country with the second youngest median age, at 15, is Niger, which might explain why the primary occupation there is internet spam. : )

Additionally, we need to take the following into consideration: In developed countries, it is normal for women to have a certain amount of control over their bodies, i.e. they can afford and have access to contraceptive methods. That's not true for the majority of women in undeveloped countries though. And that makes a big difference. Another key factor is education. E.g. in the US, girls from schools where they get taught abstinence-only ideals are far more likely to get pregnant as teenagers than girls from schools where they have proper sex education. The more you know about your body and the one of your partner, and how to have sex safely, the less likely you are to get pregnant. Then think about girls/women in undeveloped countries, and how little education they get on average. Same goes for boys/men btw - teach them about the bigger picture and they will be able to make better informed decisions. Even in developed countries, people who are have a higher degree of education on average have less children than those with a lower degree of education.

People who expect to have a lower life expectancy have more kids earlier, whilst those who expect to live longer can wait have fewer children and put more resources into each child. Just evolution trying to spread genes before death I guess

You're good at listening at basic things.

Additionally, in countries where the mortality rate is quite high, and elderly parents require their children support them after retirement, you need to have more kids in order to safeguard yourself. That is, the death of one child is has less impact if you have 3-4 others, than if it was an only child. (I am of course talking purely in terms of economic and security reasons; emotionally I'm sure it's always as terrible)

turns out that sex is pretty popular everywhere, and turns out birth control isn't much of a thing in 3rd world countries. I'm sure if condoms were more accessible in Africa I'm absolutely certain that a lot less babies would be born there

More Babies = More Workers. If one of them survives you have a worker.

How is that depressing?

@@AdamSmith-gs2dv Why would they die quickly? Do the parents not love their children so they do not feed them? Of course they feed them. Africa's population is growing quite a lot. Africans refuse to use condoms, because they want more children and they want to get pregnant. Human populations are supposed to grow. It is very good that human populations are naturally growing, as it means more people alive to experience and enjoy life.

Ankit it was more depressing sometime between 10 and 100 years ago depending on your age

@@luciferangelica Why should the natural growth of humanity, be "depressing"? Also, the amount or level of depressing, how would that be a measure of growth rate?

This is so depressing..tht u were born...the world wud have 1 less person..