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The "Rivers" Children (Game of Thrones) 

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A couple of the most interesting characters in the game of thrones /
A Song of Ice and Fire lore got stuck with the surname Rivers,
like Brynden Rivers (Lord Bloodraven, Three-Eyed Raven) and
Aegon Rivers (Bittersteel)
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@jaypeezulieta2146
@jaypeezulieta2146 3 года назад
Westeros: *Another war starts* Riverlands: Ah shit, here we go again.
@IvanDevious
@IvanDevious 3 года назад
Poland of Westeros
@chainmbl4257
@chainmbl4257 3 года назад
@@IvanDevious true
@MightyCousintube-fg4jf
@MightyCousintube-fg4jf 3 года назад
@John Trevolter no Poland you idiot
@IvanDevious
@IvanDevious 3 года назад
@John Trevolter well yeah in a way but they mostly don't start wars but just somehow get involved.
@IvanDevious
@IvanDevious 3 года назад
Fair point
@Michael-tj8sv
@Michael-tj8sv 3 года назад
The Riverlands is literally the Poland of Westeros
@erricro3198
@erricro3198 3 года назад
"Never Before Have I Been So Offended By Something I One Hundred Percent Agree With"- A polish friend of mine.
@Akapraun
@Akapraun 3 года назад
Or Syria
@Lotschi
@Lotschi 3 года назад
True!
@wojciechmalicki2509
@wojciechmalicki2509 3 года назад
Yep... Poland it is.
@cgt3704
@cgt3704 3 года назад
Romania: cute
@ToussaintZephyrus
@ToussaintZephyrus 3 года назад
Bloodraven is probably the coolest character in the series because of how much he’s linked to so many other characters.
@jaafarchaoui185
@jaafarchaoui185 3 года назад
He is the most interesting but not the coolest
@isaacgraham5727
@isaacgraham5727 3 года назад
@John Trevolter You seem to have misspelled "tragic anti-hero" in your comment.
@isaacgraham5727
@isaacgraham5727 3 года назад
@John Trevolter Bahaha - sorry, he's a bit different Cersei, fucking lol
@shannond7437
@shannond7437 3 года назад
Bloodraven is behind most everything! It’s a shame D&D were incapable of depicting the true story. Instead we got a zombified “Bran” with no explanation.
@shannond7437
@shannond7437 3 года назад
@John Trevolter Bloodraven gave up his honor for the good of the realm knowing of most intentions. Cersei loses everything due to her self interests confirming the self fulfilling prophecy that she is trying to avoid.
@Scrubje
@Scrubje 3 года назад
Bittersteel and Bloodraven have such a cool story.
@zachrobledo2252
@zachrobledo2252 3 года назад
“Massive forking river” sounded like a more polite “massive fucking River!” Lol
@shannond7437
@shannond7437 3 года назад
Fooking great writing
@Evilanious
@Evilanious 3 года назад
Riverlands forgettable? The place where we meet Septon Meribald, Jaqen Hgar, Vargo Hoat and Lady stoneheart. Where Arya and the hound found new identities and where Jaime lost his hand and where the red wedding took place. The place where the effects of the major events on the smallfolk is shown in detail. The riverlands get more attention than most other kingdoms, arguably second only after the North. If people forget them they weren't paying attention imo.
@imgrizze
@imgrizze 3 года назад
I think he means in the context of the story
@jianavalerie
@jianavalerie 2 года назад
Exactly what I was thinking!
@Toto-95
@Toto-95 3 года назад
keep them coming dude, in a few years you'll get a massive influx of new subs with the sequel / prequel / spin off
@LMIHK
@LMIHK 3 года назад
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@bizarreban4598
@bizarreban4598 3 года назад
@@LMIHK robot?
@alter6243
@alter6243 3 года назад
True. I know I'll probably be coming back to these videos once the is out anyways. It's really hard when there's so much lore to remember everything lmao
@k1e1v23
@k1e1v23 3 года назад
and because im a fiend for this content
@deepparashar98
@deepparashar98 3 года назад
Let me tell you people something , Riverlands may seem to be doomed by geography but it’s actually the leadership that’s the bigger problem. Daemon Targareyan , the Rogue Prince used the riverlands force to crush the Lannisters .
@skynyrdjesus
@skynyrdjesus 3 года назад
The misfortune of their geography falls on the small folk, not the nobility or their military. The men of the Riverlands are acknowledged as being exceptional soldiers, but there's only so much pillaging and bloodshed that the noncombatants can handle, and they bear the brunt of all of it, regardless of who's fighting.
@shannond7437
@shannond7437 3 года назад
They are kind of the key to Westeros.
@nunyabiznes33
@nunyabiznes33 3 года назад
IIRC the Riverlands was only united under local rule once, by the Justmans, and that's just for 3 centuries. Then the Ironborn came.
@nickpapadopoulos9978
@nickpapadopoulos9978 3 года назад
@@nunyabiznes33 your are forgetting the mudds
@nunyabiznes33
@nunyabiznes33 3 года назад
@@nickpapadopoulos9978 ah the Mudds, they enacted vengeance on the Lannisters by having Ser Clayye Bricc kill Cersei.
@billychops1280
@billychops1280 3 года назад
No one was more determined than Bittersteel
@Ruthgar99
@Ruthgar99 3 года назад
I'm afraid we will never find out what happened to Alys Strong and her son. GRRM has claimed, that Fire & Blood II is low on the priority list since he will work on "The Winds of Winter", "A Dream of Spring" and a few Dunk & Egg stories before continuing with Fire & Blood. Edit: They could show us in the House of the Dragon TV series, but probably not in book form, unless GRRM changes his plans.
@andrzejkopalnia
@andrzejkopalnia 3 года назад
WhyCreate, you are a jewel.
@sufianabuahmad7781
@sufianabuahmad7781 3 года назад
I thought the bastard names go buy where you were raised not born. Thats why jon is a snow and not sand, and Gendry is a waters and not Storm even if his dad is baratheon
@nasiknosik
@nasiknosik 3 года назад
Jon is a Snow because he was acknowledged as a bastard by a Stark . Gendry did not receive any bastard surname because he was never acknowledged by Robert nor did he know about his parents.
@DominionSorcerer
@DominionSorcerer 3 года назад
@@nasiknosik Yeah, bastards have to be acknowledged to be given their bastard name, but they are still generally given the bastard name of the region they were born in. But Jon isn't a Sand because he wasn't officially born in Dorne.
@matthewgriffin4562
@matthewgriffin4562 3 года назад
Jon was a snow because at the time no one but Ned Stark and Howland Reed knew he was born in Dorne so Ned claimed he was a snow to keep him safe because of his true ancestry.
@kingtorrhenstarkstark5311
@kingtorrhenstarkstark5311 3 года назад
First, You have to be recognised by your lord father as a bastard of his. Secondly, To gain the bastard surname of one of the region, you either have. -The father or mother decides -The region that you where born in. -or the place you have been raised. Jon gained his surname; Snow, because of his suppose father gave it to him and had raised Jon as a northerner. If Jon was raised as a dornish then the title would be sand instead. But ultimately it’s up to the parents
@michaelhenry3234
@michaelhenry3234 3 года назад
The bastard naming thing isn't a rule or law, it's just custom. It's malleable.
@ann2574
@ann2574 3 года назад
The bastards are names according to where they are raised and not by where they are born. This is why the Sand Snakes are all named Sand, because they grew up in Dorne, even if they were born in different places in Westeros/Essos.
@zxcvbnm812
@zxcvbnm812 3 года назад
0:56 because aegor's mother was a bracken and bryndens was blackwood, both minor houses in the Riverlands
@xxsouthxxsidexxroyxx
@xxsouthxxsidexxroyxx 3 года назад
The bastard name isn't based off where they are born, it's based off the culture of the area they were raised in. That's why Jon Snow isn't called John Sand. He was borne in Dorne but raised as a northmen. So he is a Snow. Likewise, Bryndon and Aegor are both very much raised in the traditions of House Blackwood and House Bracken respectively; thus earning them the name Rivers.
@deltadude003
@deltadude003 3 года назад
Ive always wondered that... But I think Jon is a snow only because ned had to protect him. So he named him a snow to make everyone think jon was his bastard??? Idk though
@regularguy2807
@regularguy2807 3 года назад
Yeah nobody else knew apart from ned stark and howland reed and I guess the wet nurses to that jon was born in dorne and what his real parentage was.
@xxsouthxxsidexxroyxx
@xxsouthxxsidexxroyxx 3 года назад
@@regularguy2807 @deltadude Everyone that was convinced that Jon was Ned's bastard knows that Jon wasn't born in the North. They think he conceived his bastard while on campaign with Robert. They know his last act of the war was to go to Dorne to "rescue" his sister. He had a group of men with him that died whose families he had to tell were buried in Dorne with rocks from the Tower of Joy. There were rumors that Ashara Dayne was the mother. Jon's wet nurse that came with him to Winterfel was from Dorne... What I'm getting at is reguardless of what rumors people believed or lies Ned had to tell; it still would have been pretty well believed that Jon was borne in or near Dorne. But he is called Snow instead of Sand because he was raised in the traditions of the North.
@scottwells466
@scottwells466 2 года назад
@@xxsouthxxsidexxroyxx your wrong my guy they thought jons mom was a captain or a captains daughter from whitehabor and that is in the north.
@xxsouthxxsidexxroyxx
@xxsouthxxsidexxroyxx 2 года назад
@@scottwells466 you are a pretender with no proof of your claim.
@estevan128
@estevan128 3 года назад
I get why people are so excited about Dance of the Dragons. I mean Targaryen vs Targaryen. Dragons vs dragons is going to be amazing. But I think the greatest action scenes would come from Blackfyre Rebellion. No dragons. But constant rebellions and non stop action. Plus I wanna see that Blood Raven and Bittersteel beef.
@jameskluxen6723
@jameskluxen6723 3 года назад
Notable forgotten Rivers: Benedict Rivers, bastard of Blackwood and Bracken and founder of House Justman.
@JoshuaHenelyThornhill
@JoshuaHenelyThornhill 3 года назад
Glad to see you back at it again my friend !!! Keep em coming cuz we love em
@TheSeanzy772
@TheSeanzy772 3 года назад
Another great video!! You always have the best GOT content. Keep it up!
@mitchyG90210
@mitchyG90210 3 года назад
With Bryndyn and Aegor being named Rivers, I'm supposing that in the case of "Great Bastards" they're given the noble mother's local kingdom bastards surname. I could be wrong tho GRMM has a few naming and identity inconsistencies and retcons
@anastasiyabksi1281
@anastasiyabksi1281 3 года назад
Always look forward to your content. When I see the 2 overlapping 📐 I am intrigued.😊😊😊👍🏼💋
@brendanfechter4889
@brendanfechter4889 3 года назад
They called Rivers bc their mothers are noble and from the Riverlands. Dont matter where they born. Obara Sand was born in Oldtown but she's not Obara Flowers. Jon was born at the ToJ but he isn't Jon Sand hes Jon Snow.
@jaygasper4853
@jaygasper4853 3 года назад
Jon was born legitimate. The previous marriage was annulled so Jon (Aemon) was a legit Targaryen
@idk-wv1sf
@idk-wv1sf 3 года назад
@@jaygasper4853 but no one knew that so he was still a bastard according to the public
@anandarichardpradana6937
@anandarichardpradana6937 3 года назад
Great content!
@chrisfain7244
@chrisfain7244 3 года назад
Love ur videos
@isaacgraham5727
@isaacgraham5727 3 года назад
I thought it was pretty obvious that Alys Rivers actually *is* Melisandre - makes sense, she matches up with Mel's age, skillset, and appearance.
@FishBoneD14
@FishBoneD14 3 года назад
Except Mel is from essos
@henrywhite2228
@henrywhite2228 3 года назад
@@FishBoneD14 and she has flashbacks to being sold to the church as a child.
@jinxedsphinx3600
@jinxedsphinx3600 3 года назад
@@henrywhite2228 in the show or the books?
@thebystander1636
@thebystander1636 3 года назад
@@jinxedsphinx3600 books. Melony, Lot 7
@coldhands2802
@coldhands2802 3 года назад
And isn't Mel like 400 yrs old?
@chrisbenoit7
@chrisbenoit7 3 года назад
all your videos are so good
@defrary5569
@defrary5569 3 года назад
The King who bore the sword
@crazyirish209
@crazyirish209 3 года назад
the great bastard families are some of my fav things about the world of I&F
@Garvant_
@Garvant_ 3 года назад
I know its such a cool concept and the simple geographical names are so cool.
@mironp.r.o.1484
@mironp.r.o.1484 3 года назад
Hello guys. Hope you're having a great day😄
@andrzejkopalnia
@andrzejkopalnia 3 года назад
You, too!
@ghoulishfool
@ghoulishfool 3 года назад
Aww, hope you’re having the worst day 💚
@mironp.r.o.1484
@mironp.r.o.1484 3 года назад
@@ghoulishfool Thanks dude😄
@justcallmeD90
@justcallmeD90 3 года назад
Love this vid Can you do a vid of BloodRavens house being driven from the North by the Starks if you can find the backstory Thanks
@OldschoolHIT360
@OldschoolHIT360 3 года назад
I like this channel.
@bewitchedia
@bewitchedia 3 года назад
i misheard massive forking river as massive fucking river
@QueenDaenerysTargaryen
@QueenDaenerysTargaryen 3 года назад
Excellent💯👍👏 video🎥👍🔥
@MrSkills123
@MrSkills123 3 года назад
I so want to get back to game of thrones lore but that final really took the wind out of my sails, I feel bad for all the content makers
@shanenolan8252
@shanenolan8252 3 года назад
Thanks
@joshtalbot6917
@joshtalbot6917 3 года назад
I originally liked the Rivers bastards because of Bloodraven and Bittersteel however after this video it confirms they are better than the Sand Snakes.
@whycreate
@whycreate 3 года назад
To the king of the bastards
@mrmarmellow563
@mrmarmellow563 3 года назад
GREÀT FACTZ SPITTING MR WHY;)
@jerrysstories711
@jerrysstories711 3 года назад
2:25 Is that child threatening to poke his own eye out?
@kingtorrhenstarkstark5311
@kingtorrhenstarkstark5311 3 года назад
Nah, he’s threatening, and foreshadowing, what he’s going to do to Brynden
@tylercruse2402
@tylercruse2402 3 года назад
Aemond only had one eye!
@Lizzie-ve7kt
@Lizzie-ve7kt Год назад
Ooh now that I think of it, I wonder if the children are named based on where their mothers are from because if you think about it Brynden Rivers mother was a Blackwood yet his father was the king who lived in the Crownlands and would’ve been called Waters if it went based off of where the father is from. Maybe the fact that Ned named Jon with the last name show is a subtle hint that his real mother is a northerner, AKA Ned’s sister Lyanna Stark.
@sheilahilton356
@sheilahilton356 3 года назад
Come on, you know why the Rivers name. The mothers are from the Riverlands
@kristopherspence8053
@kristopherspence8053 Год назад
You missed Benedict Rivers/Justman
@thepodcastpodcast2027
@thepodcastpodcast2027 3 года назад
I really really hate the Frey’s
@kingtorrhenstarkstark5311
@kingtorrhenstarkstark5311 3 года назад
I swear, I would bring an everlasting winter on that piss soken bridge if I had been resurrected.
@mycathasswag7242
@mycathasswag7242 3 года назад
My favorite people in Essos must be the people of Ibben
@whereswilliam488
@whereswilliam488 3 года назад
your audio mix seems off. your S's sound SUPER harsh
@SHARKVADERS
@SHARKVADERS 3 года назад
WC!!!
@jaafarchaoui185
@jaafarchaoui185 3 года назад
You forgot Benedict Justman
@jerrysstories711
@jerrysstories711 3 года назад
0:06 Am I the only one who cringes a little every time I see that continent awkwardly designed to fit on a rectangular page map?
@TheDeadlyKnight
@TheDeadlyKnight Год назад
Snows, Storms, Rivers, Waters & Seeds seem to be a lot of troublemakers. Pykes, Stones, Flowers, Hills & Sands seem to be a more agreeable brood
@chainmbl4257
@chainmbl4257 3 года назад
Bloodraven is pretty metal ngl
@JoeyWhisperz
@JoeyWhisperz 3 года назад
She could be Melisansdre and that's the dragon of stones
@lintonfor4035
@lintonfor4035 3 года назад
The rivers children, only children coz there isn't a case if them reaching adulthood
@IkedaSerra
@IkedaSerra 3 года назад
I thought illegitimate kids get the bastard name based on the homeland of their moms.
@deepparashar98
@deepparashar98 3 года назад
Well no , Robert’s bastard Edric is a Storm , even though his mother is a Florent from the Reach .
@skynyrdjesus
@skynyrdjesus 3 года назад
There don't really seem to be hard and fast rules on it. Which makes sense, it's more a plot device for GRRM to convey the background of a character without a house, whether geographically consistent or not. After all, it doesn't make sense for most bastard children to keep their bastard names, rather than discard it and present themselves as any other common person, seeing as the bastard name is only a detriment to their social standing. Much like Gendry isn't, as far as I recall, ever refered to as Gendry Waters, I don't see any reason why the vast majority wouldn't go by their given name only
@deepparashar98
@deepparashar98 3 года назад
@@skynyrdjesus Gendry isn’t waters because he isn’t recognised by Robert . Bastards with at least one noble parent , who is recognised are given these names . Gendry or Bella aren’t recognised but Mya and Edric are thus given the names Stone and Storm respectively .
@samuelwolch1302
@samuelwolch1302 3 года назад
I think you should do a Stone or Waters video next
@juun9401
@juun9401 3 года назад
hiii
@guilty170
@guilty170 3 года назад
We can’t forget Benedict I Justman. Born the bastard son of a Blackwood and Bracken eventually became King of the Trident. Who thinks that in future books a new House Justman will be formed?
@gryphonnystrom2973
@gryphonnystrom2973 3 года назад
Keep bringing attention to the more abscure characters
@shannond7437
@shannond7437 3 года назад
Bloodraven’s name also defines him perfectly, you just have to go beyond the birthmark.
@Foxman_Noir
@Foxman_Noir 3 года назад
That "forking" river... riiiiiiiiiight. :P
@abdullahciam5599
@abdullahciam5599 3 года назад
3 likes 1 view nice
@skynyrdjesus
@skynyrdjesus 3 года назад
Congratulations, you've discovered that the view count loads before the like/dislike line and the comments. You're only like 13 years behind, I'm proud of you
@xadri2243
@xadri2243 3 года назад
We dont care if you are first
@esmandagamer3441
@esmandagamer3441 3 года назад
only thing i can complain about is that , when u speak u tend to start loud and get quiet at the end of a sentence . other than that i dig you content so far .
@Sebastian-mh7ej
@Sebastian-mh7ej 3 года назад
Witch Queen is so cool☺️
@vaibhavawasthii
@vaibhavawasthii 3 года назад
Aegon the 4th all he did is fuck and rule Hmm robert baratheon
@shannond7437
@shannond7437 3 года назад
Imagine if/when we learn Daenerys Stormborn is actually a bastard of House Targaryen. Learning this may just be what drives her into madness.
@pipitameruje
@pipitameruje 3 года назад
Please elaborate. How is Dany a bastard?
@theinvisiblewoman6783
@theinvisiblewoman6783 3 года назад
@@pipitameruje tinfoil theories Jon, Dany and fAegon are all born to other parents than what the story tells us they believe.
@marcandrews6738
@marcandrews6738 3 года назад
What ever happened to Dark Sister after The Dance of The Dragons?
@francisabellana445
@francisabellana445 Год назад
Brynden Rivers just sounded cooler that's why
@Pomerank420
@Pomerank420 3 года назад
#teambittersteel
@ZBlinkZ
@ZBlinkZ 3 года назад
Commenting for reach day 4 challenge help me keep on going :D
@freshprinceofbell0730
@freshprinceofbell0730 3 года назад
First
@francovalentinobaresirossi7644
@francovalentinobaresirossi7644 2 года назад
The riverlands is basically just poland LOL
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