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The Roast of Dragon's Dogma (Netflix Anime) 

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When Netflix announced its Dragon's Dogma anime, I got hyped. Here's why that was a huge mistake.
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Chapters:
00:00 Introduction (Wrath)
03:25 Worldbuilding and Production Values
09:05 Tutturu ad
10:45 Terrible Writing (Gluttony & Greed)
16:33 Unsatisfied Wives (Envy& Lust)
22:31 Drugs are bad, Mkay? (Sloth)
27:03 Why? (Pride)
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@mothersbasement
@mothersbasement 3 года назад
Note: The timestamp at 16:45 is wrong due to a last minute addition to the video. the real end of the segment in question is around 17:53
@Jackson-ng5ui
@Jackson-ng5ui 3 года назад
Thank you Geoff
@thelightsilent
@thelightsilent 3 года назад
I skip this video cause I see BAD CGI being called an "anime"
@CombatSportsNerd
@CombatSportsNerd 3 года назад
As someone who had the fortune of this Netflix adaptation being his first introduction to the game I have to ask. Is The original story just as bad or is it worth giving a shot?
@DarklyQuill
@DarklyQuill 3 года назад
@@CombatSportsNerd essentially the only thing the story has in common is "your character is the only one to stand up to the dragon when it burns your village down so it eats your heart and flies away, go get it" I'm in my first playthrough rightnow, it's pretty cool
@Charok1
@Charok1 3 года назад
as bad as the game. hate goblin slayer. kids should never watch that trash especially. why wouldn't it be completely english? Netflix paid to make it didn't they?
@arcanetraveller6304
@arcanetraveller6304 3 года назад
Ethan is a terrible arisen, He only uses one pawn and doesn't even try throwing them of a cliff to see what would happen.
@guibelson4809
@guibelson4809 3 года назад
you deserve a like 😆
@Kuulpb
@Kuulpb 3 года назад
His pawn is also a magic archer
@barbatos673
@barbatos673 3 года назад
@@Kuulpb and she didn't even nag him to death...what the fuck... the three pawns are supposed to drive your arisen mad, and here is this guy, with only one pawn, who don't talk much... AND NO FUCKING SIDE QUESTS!!! what is he even driven mad by? This is a terrible(terrible might be a bit much, but it makes the point) adaptation of a really great game.
@Sacrificelow
@Sacrificelow 3 года назад
this dude legit picked the worst pawn then did not even get more bro i just cant
@littlebloodymooneporo
@littlebloodymooneporo 3 года назад
@@Kuulpb you know maybe he had more pawns, but since he had magic archer to begin with, they might have become ammunition on the way unseen
@pepi7404
@pepi7404 3 года назад
I love the scene where the show goes: "Guys, I think the rich are systematically exploiting us to stay in power." "Idk, man, you sound kinda evil to me."
@CyberdarkHellKaiser
@CyberdarkHellKaiser Год назад
So, the average anti-communist
@DauthEldrvaria
@DauthEldrvaria Год назад
@@CyberdarkHellKaiser you say that like being “anti-communist” is a bad thing? Russia and China definitely aren’t systems I wanna live in.
@CyberdarkHellKaiser
@CyberdarkHellKaiser Год назад
@@DauthEldrvaria yes, supporting oligarchy, imperialism and class oppression is a bad thing
@DauthEldrvaria
@DauthEldrvaria Год назад
@@CyberdarkHellKaiser okay good. Lol
@Pre-flightChekist
@Pre-flightChekist Год назад
​@@DauthEldrvariabro, educate yourself. I live in Russia, there's no trace of socialism. Except for /mostly/ free healthcare and education, and it kinda seems that the oligarchs will break that down too.
@damnrapunzel8130
@damnrapunzel8130 3 года назад
As a frequent weed smoker, I've lost count of the amount of times I've almost been killed by a hydra at this point
@Enclavefakesoldier
@Enclavefakesoldier 3 года назад
The smell of burning ganja is like catnip to them I swear.
@stankobarabata2406
@stankobarabata2406 3 года назад
Wait, I've never played the game. Are you guys referring to some in-game weed, or IRL weed smoking? And if it's IRL, what do hydras have to do with that?
@Enclavefakesoldier
@Enclavefakesoldier 3 года назад
@@stankobarabata2406 being sarcastic in this case. The game does not have depictions of weed but it does have hydras.
@themissinggene
@themissinggene 3 года назад
Did you at least get a blind wife out of it?
@JerkingtheGerk
@JerkingtheGerk 3 года назад
Thanks for that; I laughed my ass off after reading this one.
@MiloKuroshiro
@MiloKuroshiro 3 года назад
"Noo actually poor people having basic decency is baaaad, we need to exploit them" The Animation
@dabtasticcharizard9817
@dabtasticcharizard9817 3 года назад
Yes. Climb the ladder.
@AmonTheWitch
@AmonTheWitch 3 года назад
glad to know Bowser supports the working class
@moonmannd7501
@moonmannd7501 3 года назад
Yep Definitely the anime industry.
@samuelaguilar1537
@samuelaguilar1537 2 года назад
When even an evil dragon turtle king knows more about being a good leader that's worrying Glad to know you're a leader we can trust, Lord Koopa
@ChangedMyNameFinally69
@ChangedMyNameFinally69 Год назад
That's most dark fantasy stories sadly
@phantomkrieger2744
@phantomkrieger2744 3 года назад
The worst sin of this adaptation is that Ethan isn’t joined by a revolving cast of other rando pawns that never shut up about how wolves fear fire. One of these pawns is fat wizard named Jim who doesn’t have anything equipped and another is a pawn 49 levels higher than Ethan who is able to one shot the final boss.
@rythmiccoma2809
@rythmiccoma2809 3 года назад
Don't forget Reginald the one who's horribly underequipped but damn does he look so good in that trash ass gear that Ethan gives him a five star Pawnhub review despite his worthlessness.
@moebiusjdx7288
@moebiusjdx7288 3 года назад
@@rythmiccoma2809 I couldn't stop laughing at this. I have upvoted and sent gifts to so many cool looking pawns regardless of their usefulness.
@jackhazardous4008
@jackhazardous4008 3 года назад
And then there's the green abomination covered in scars and moles that looks like it's been in a car crash
@Maniacman2030
@Maniacman2030 3 года назад
I just turned off the voices. I also never picked the least dressed pawns. There were plenty of armor styles in that game that were practical AND cool when blended together.
@FoxyFoxlyn
@FoxyFoxlyn 3 года назад
Harpies! 😂
@ixtiander999
@ixtiander999 3 года назад
Some stupid peasant worker: i wish i wasn't dying in poverty while the rich never struggle A flying skeleton: You wish to improve society, and yet you participate in it! Very curious!
@bigmiki2620
@bigmiki2620 3 года назад
Where's that quote from?
@LutraLovegood
@LutraLovegood 3 года назад
@@bigmiki2620 "Mister Gotcha" by Matt Bors, 2016, published in The Nib
@blitzkriegdragon013
@blitzkriegdragon013 3 года назад
If lich king was in a sitcom.
@bigmiki2620
@bigmiki2620 3 года назад
@@LutraLovegood thank you, good sir.
@saudbintalib2567
@saudbintalib2567 3 года назад
@@bigmiki2620 mother's basement has made the entire anime community toxic
@buzzinbea
@buzzinbea 3 года назад
Half expected our heroes to come across an underwater city and for Ethan to chastise the citizens for not just selling their houses to mermaids
@maroontiger1361
@maroontiger1361 3 года назад
Ethan DESTROYS aquatic liberals with FACTS and LOGIC
@softestshade7813
@softestshade7813 3 года назад
And then they have to battle a bunch of sirens or some general sea monster who is only here because they hate humans and why wouldn't those humans sell to the mermaids, how foolish of them to not sell to creatures they didn't know existed.
@blarg2429
@blarg2429 3 года назад
Villager: Just one fucking problem! Sell their houses to who, Arisen? Fucking Aquaman?! Ethan: Yes. Fucking Aquaman: **kills all the villagers for having refused to sell their houses**
@Robocopnik
@Robocopnik 2 года назад
@@maroontiger1361 Ethan IS a liberal.
@uzumakikat13
@uzumakikat13 2 года назад
MS-06 Borjarnon its a reference to a memetic clip making fun of ben shapiro for suggesting that people living in areas sinking underwater due to rising sea levels sell their homes to someone else and move further inland. Because its a totally braindead take. Like a lot of the ones the show has.
@generalalduin9548
@generalalduin9548 3 года назад
Ethan: “we should give some of this gold to the families who will all starve to death, the Duke won’t notice a few coins missing.” Commander: “monster!”
@richardpulido4624
@richardpulido4624 3 года назад
Balthazar: "Screw the families, I want to be rich!" *gets stabbed* Balthazar: "I see the error of my ways now."
@Spartan135
@Spartan135 3 года назад
this world is full of crazy idiots. call for exterminatus.
@generalalduin9548
@generalalduin9548 3 года назад
@@Spartan135 but brother, we can't call exterminatus on Holy Terra itself. It is heresy to even consider such an option.
@gorkemaykut5230
@gorkemaykut5230 2 года назад
@@generalalduin9548 strategic value absolute
@generalalduin9548
@generalalduin9548 2 года назад
Görkem Aykut deploy Capital weaponry?
@unluckyone1655
@unluckyone1655 3 года назад
The most disappointing thing about this show was Hanna never yelled "WOLVES HUNT IN PACKS"
@ananousous
@ananousous 3 года назад
Agreed. Hell, by the end of it, any line of pawn chatter would have been welcomed
@unluckyone1655
@unluckyone1655 3 года назад
@@ananousous i personally found the pawn chatter somewhat endearing in the game, as long as the chatter setting was at low lmao
@leoffemiruen2028
@leoffemiruen2028 3 года назад
Or throw her in a cliff because the Arisen is an Assassin.
@ivanandrade494
@ivanandrade494 3 года назад
Or, "They hate fire!"
@aimBOTevolved
@aimBOTevolved 3 года назад
“HARPIE!”
@leandroaraujo9515
@leandroaraujo9515 3 года назад
me, dumb: maybe people dying of poverty is bad smart nearby denizen, pulling out a sword: nice try, lich
@luckyducky7819
@luckyducky7819 3 года назад
What's worse is that you CAN do a story where someone starts off doing bad things for good reasons, and then getting more and more corrupted while using the same "bad for good" spiel to justify their actions. That could be good. Instead we get this vapid nonsense.
@MABfan11
@MABfan11 3 года назад
@@luckyducky7819 i have seen budget isekai pull off commentary on wealth inequality better than Dragon's Dogma
@TheDoomBlueShell
@TheDoomBlueShell 3 года назад
​@@luckyducky7819 Not saying a corrupt Robin Wood can't be well written, but think needs lots of nuances to not end up saying that people that are being brutalized are bad for getting violent and not do the naive "Why didn't they talk things out?"
@MusicoftheDamned
@MusicoftheDamned 3 года назад
@@TheDoomBlueShell In this instance, however, it's not even a corrupt Robin Hood done poorly. At least as explained in the video, a relatively small bit of all that gold would be being given as compensation for the soldiers laying down their lives to reclaim the treasure for some apparently stingy duke. That's only "stealing" if one considers monetary benefits that go to families due to work-related deaths in the line of duty to be "stealing". I am almost surprised there wasn't a clip of the lich talking about "universal healthcare" before it was defeated or one of Ethan deriding "welfare queens" before he turned into a dragon.
@noddlefoodle5691
@noddlefoodle5691 3 года назад
I'm sorry but I think I had a stroke trying to read this
@blixer8384
@blixer8384 3 года назад
What I found funny is the show makes the Dragon Right. When the Dragon is giving his speech about how evil and vile and weak humans are there are flashbacks to the events of the past 5 episodes, but there aren't any flash backs when Ethan gives his speech about how humans actually aren't all evil bastards. The show just straight up forgot to redeem humanity in their plot about how humans aren't all evil bastards.
@yuzuichikawa
@yuzuichikawa Год назад
Cause drugs are bad .. mkay, and they did drugs so they bad ... mkay... cause drugs are bad!"
@mikhailvasiliev6275
@mikhailvasiliev6275 Год назад
Also that wasn't even the point of the game. The characters in it were flawed as hell, absolutely. But aside from one or two, they were still fundamentally good people. The angst of the series simply doesn't fit.
@Mephistofeles
@Mephistofeles Год назад
​@@mikhailvasiliev6275 dude, apart from the pawn and the red dragon, this show has nothing from the game in it... Maybe the lost heart too, but thats it,another shtshow of an adaptation that doenst give a single fck to the source material cuz the director thinks he can do better than the original source.
@zekeolopwi6642
@zekeolopwi6642 11 месяцев назад
Yes? That was the point? The big issue with the review and this comment is you guys think it was massive mistake when indeed, it was the point. It wasn't an adaptation of the game but an event taking place in the same universe. Which is kinda how the game canonically works with there being many arisens in many different worlds etc. They used this universe as a setting to place a character (Ethan) as a vehicle to deliver the desired message. If you don't like the message fine, but that doesn't make it an inherently bad show. It just wasn't made to your taste. He talks about how weak the side characters are, and yes. Because they are side characters in a show with 7 half hour ish episodes. They aren't meant to be the focal point. The only reason they exist IS to portray the failures of humanity leading to Ethan's nihilistic outlook. It makes perfect sense as far as writing. Mind you, I'm not arguing that the actual written dialogue and stuff was good. Definitely lacking. But it seems most of you folks aren't attacking that but the story itself, not the writing of it. You can not like a story and it could still be considered a reasonably ok story. Take Twilight. It was an objective example of bad writing. However, it did the goal of creating a blank slate main character for females to insert themselves into, thus making it a successful book.
@AntiCensorshipGamer
@AntiCensorshipGamer 11 месяцев назад
@@Mephistofeles ... Bruh 💀
@charlieseen
@charlieseen 2 года назад
... OK I've played a lot of Dragon's Dogma, and in none of the caves have I found psychedelic moss. All I found were rats, snakes, and very angry lizards.
@blarg2429
@blarg2429 Год назад
They were angry because they had to rush to hide their stash from you.
@Slick-Salamander
@Slick-Salamander 11 месяцев назад
Rats, snakes, and very angry lizards? My guy, I think you might've found and taken the psychedelic moss before you went in.
@stillcantbesilencedevennow
@stillcantbesilencedevennow 11 месяцев назад
My man doesn't mention the rapacious ogres? Lol
@Windwalker88
@Windwalker88 8 месяцев назад
​@@stillcantbesilencedevennowman, those guys scared the shit out of me
@grodd2040
@grodd2040 4 месяца назад
The game isn't the only source of lore
@bscal02
@bscal02 3 года назад
"He names her Hannah, after his favorite singer, Hannah Montana"
@turner15
@turner15 3 года назад
Already a better story with this one change.
@yuyaricachimuel555
@yuyaricachimuel555 2 года назад
I read this and I have to begrudgingly hear that Migos song playing in my head….
@bernardoheusi6146
@bernardoheusi6146 2 года назад
Ethan is an ok name IMO, however.
@Folsomdsf2
@Folsomdsf2 Год назад
@@bernardoheusi6146 IIRC the names in the show were based off the two most common pawn monikers.
@powwowken2760
@powwowken2760 3 года назад
Wait? Ethan had a wife and kid killed by the dragon? How stupid and cliche... In the game the dragon steals your heart and basically says "HAHA! catch me if you can" then dips Most of the town actually survives, I mean, having your literal heart stolen for a reason you don't even understand seems like a pretty strong motivation to me, why did they need to make it so generic....
@Foogi9000
@Foogi9000 3 года назад
Let's not mention how they completely fucked the ending, the game had a great ending and it explained a ton.
@pedrocenturion7599
@pedrocenturion7599 3 года назад
Just because, I assume. XD
@unluckyone1655
@unluckyone1655 3 года назад
They also screwed up the dragon lore. You dont become a dragon for killing the dragon for the "wrong" reason. You become the dragon if you cant defeat the senechal
@gameaddict1074
@gameaddict1074 3 года назад
@@unluckyone1655 The anime is just a bad memory for me at this point, and it sucks because I was actually looking forward to it. smh
@MasouShizuka
@MasouShizuka 3 года назад
I think they should've just made some quiet protag with no background. Just like the game. I think it's much more flexible to have a blank slate to build a story off than a dude who got his family sent to a eternal BBQ.
@blueblank8287
@blueblank8287 3 года назад
“...Which I guess makes sense, if you define ‘evil’ as ‘breaking any rule to make one’s life better, ever’.” This show was written by Jigsaw.
@whiteraven181
@whiteraven181 3 года назад
I'm pretty sure even Jigsaw had a more 'shades of grey' perception of the world than these guys.
@Nai-qk4vp
@Nai-qk4vp 2 года назад
@@whiteraven181 Rich good,, filthy poor bad, womz bad, drugs bsd snd if you use drugs you have failed as an individual.
@dragonfell5078
@dragonfell5078 2 года назад
Jigsaw lost all credibility to me when he covered a man in flammable jelly for skipping work one day.
@doclouis4236
@doclouis4236 2 года назад
Wonder how this fairs in a Japanese cultural perspective? There's seems to be a reoccuring trope in some anime about misanthropy especially in Evangelion.
@somedragonbastard
@somedragonbastard 2 года назад
@@dragonfell5078 jigsaw would see my clincally depressed ass and fuckin.. chain me to a rabid badger and tell me I need to have a positive outlook or smth
@pigcatapult
@pigcatapult 3 года назад
You know, butchering Nietzsche's warnings about staring long into the abyss loses exactly all of its impact when the premise of the show is that the whole world is already in the abyss and everyone is fundamentally evil.
@the_last_ballad
@the_last_ballad 2 года назад
"the premise of the show is that the whole world is already in the abyss" "And not the fun kind, where children bleed from their eyes" -MothersBasment
@fakeigniz13
@fakeigniz13 3 года назад
*scene of Wolves hunting in packs* Everyone watching the series: say it! Say the line! The anime: .....
@hugoknight4493
@hugoknight4493 3 года назад
WOLVES HUNT IN PACKS ARISEN!
@pantyeater-kun5788
@pantyeater-kun5788 3 года назад
TIS WEAK TO FIRE!
@artofstorytelling9406
@artofstorytelling9406 3 года назад
😂😂😂
@jordanm4762
@jordanm4762 3 года назад
You'll never hit them swinging blindly!
@yuyaricachimuel555
@yuyaricachimuel555 2 года назад
*NO! THEY HOLD THE ADVANTAGE!*
@JohannKarlT
@JohannKarlT 3 года назад
I think Mothers Basement missed one thing and that is that any fan of dragons dogma knows that the weird off-putting medieval fantasy voices are actually very true to the game and I quite enjoyed the Jank
@jackhazardous4008
@jackhazardous4008 3 года назад
I actually loved the dialect of the game. The way everyone speaks just seems so unique and poetic.
@JohannKarlT
@JohannKarlT 3 года назад
@@jackhazardous4008 Yeah some of the lines that are said really shook my core 6 or so years ago when I first played it, It still is one of my fav RPG's and that's definitely a part of it
@DrNaviMD
@DrNaviMD 3 года назад
Its still bad on the games, I don't think "that's how the game is" can be an excuse.
@JohannKarlT
@JohannKarlT 3 года назад
@@DrNaviMD Oh it's not an excuse, if it's bad and feels weird, then it's bad and feels weird. but am I surprised that it feels that way in the anime adaption? No it's surprisingly consistent actually and it's not impossible to enjoy it like a b grade horror movie, especially when you're looking at it as coming from the Dragons Dogma game. Which is super fun to play but also has b grade writing in a lot of parts (though I'd still say the world and concepts are cool)
@Alice-jp1kl
@Alice-jp1kl 3 года назад
They're masterworks all, you can't go wrong!
@Berutoron
@Berutoron 3 года назад
You had me at "an unbearably preachy reactionary evangelical screed that gets so high on its own neoliberal "bootstrap" bullshit it accidentally ends up endorsing feudalism." A hell of a sentence this is.
@electronicmayonnaise5692
@electronicmayonnaise5692 Год назад
That was such a good sentence.
@LikeSupreme
@LikeSupreme 11 месяцев назад
r/Brandnewsentence
@Acidfrog475
@Acidfrog475 7 месяцев назад
It is an excellent sentence
@Technocolor00
@Technocolor00 3 года назад
"Her pupils visibly dilate. an indication of arousal, while she's watching Ethan turn goblins into blood piñatas" I mean... would that not turn YOU on?
@Dimarine
@Dimarine 3 года назад
😏
@piratefangirl6802
@piratefangirl6802 3 года назад
Me, an asexual lesbian snacking on chips: nah lol
@typacsk
@typacsk 2 года назад
Personally I'm more of a "meat toboggan" fan
@sadrabbit53
@sadrabbit53 2 года назад
@@typacsk I dare not ask what that means
@typacsk
@typacsk 2 года назад
@@sadrabbit53 it's from SAO abridged :)
@Borderose
@Borderose 3 года назад
Also, dude, Kayaba totally had a strong reason for doing what he did: He went through 400 hours of uninterrupted consciousness because Bethesda wouldn't let him delay the game release. He wasn't exactly thinking straight when his buggy masterpiece ended up killing people.
@juliagiles1547
@juliagiles1547 3 года назад
Honestly that backstory would have saved sao and given a much better commentary on greed and human nature than this show ever did.
@dracosfire7247
@dracosfire7247 3 года назад
@@juliagiles1547 Yup, SAO Abridged is a treasure.
@CombatSportsNerd
@CombatSportsNerd 3 года назад
Julia Giles Seriously whoever the editor was for SAO needs to reevaluate themselves. Who lets the final boss just say “I FORGOT MY MOTIVATION”. Fuckin trash
@hehhehehohohoe8807
@hehhehehohohoe8807 3 года назад
@@CombatSportsNerd The "I forgot my motivation" point COULD have been good. Could. Even I can spin something in my mind about a persons obession with "getting back at the world" for real or percieved suffering or something that isolated that person from the world. Surreptitiously converting what those that work for that person create and smuggeling it under the nose of those that might find out, simply to ruin all of them in the end, while also killing as many as possible. Loosing himself in that obession. But nah. Too much work.
@sanfransiscon
@sanfransiscon 3 года назад
Or another take on Kayaba is to have him be completely addicted to escapism, and thus his original motivation (which might be learned from other sources) is irrelevant now that he is so far removed from reality.
@hannahyamauchi839
@hannahyamauchi839 3 года назад
Alright Dragon's Dogma, what do you have for us? "Tyranny is good actually" Hm I see, nothing of value.
@jackhazardous4008
@jackhazardous4008 3 года назад
Poor people simply don't understand the pressures of wealth
@LutraLovegood
@LutraLovegood 3 года назад
It's so hard to be rich, do you know what it's like to have to decide what colour you want your Lamborghini to be in or what kind of stones you want on your watch? Last month my neighbour got a yacht bigger than mine and now I'm not the top dog anymore!
@jondoh9414
@jondoh9414 3 года назад
How about "without slavery people would become drug addicts or lose control and start killing everything". Holy shit, are we sure this show isn't satire mocking fascist types?
@simone105
@simone105 3 года назад
That wasn't the point though, it's just a dark take on human nature, that people that were oppressed could cause disaster in anarchy, but that doesn't that mean they were trying to say tyranny is good
@JayJayM57
@JayJayM57 3 года назад
@@simone105 It sure seems like it. according to the show if you remove the tyrannical lord from power. the people will turn into looters.
@spoonman9584
@spoonman9584 3 года назад
I made a healer mage pawn with 3000 health, gave him a stick that revives him after death (wakestone staff) and called him Jesus. He never dies, cures debuffs and heals the everyone who lacks a sliver of health. The only attack he has is fireball. I also made him 7ft tall, excessively hairy, brutishly built and gave him the deepest voice I could. His title is BA, so Jesus the Badass comes with me on every adventure.
@ginoceli5205
@ginoceli5205 Год назад
not funny
@mousesteam7882
@mousesteam7882 Год назад
​@@ginoceli5205You don't know what comedy is
@ginoceli5205
@ginoceli5205 Год назад
@@mousesteam7882 I do
@AntiCensorshipGamer
@AntiCensorshipGamer Год назад
*Heavy Metal Jesus by Dream Evil plays in the background*
@AntiCensorshipGamer
@AntiCensorshipGamer Год назад
@@ginoceli5205 it is indeed pretty funny.
@hinata167
@hinata167 2 года назад
I like how the dragon's motivation is on par with a cat knocking your stuff down
@nellturley
@nellturley 3 года назад
as a current animation student: holy SHIT that facial animation is legitimately incredible. it’s amazing how much smooth expression they got out of these models. such a shame that amazing work was wasted on such a shitshow.
@mothersbasement
@mothersbasement 3 года назад
Right? Like the fact that pupils can dilate is NUTS. Just wish it was used better
@Laiser
@Laiser 3 года назад
@@mothersbasement Well, I'm sure there's still room for the show to grow and develop with the criticisms being heard. So keep complaining until they hear!
@thesandwich5321
@thesandwich5321 3 года назад
Out of curiosity, do you get a chance to work with mocap on your course?
@nellturley
@nellturley 3 года назад
The sandwich My school has the equipment for it, but obviously nobody’s on campus right now to use it. i think it’s usually used by the game art/development major more than animation, but they’d probably let me try it out if i wanted to lol
@thesandwich5321
@thesandwich5321 3 года назад
@@nellturley Oh awesome! Yet another reason to knock covid out I guess. Good luck man.
@eisgnom7383
@eisgnom7383 3 года назад
The "we have to sacrifice a child to keep the monster at bay" thing is so old even the Greeks did it. Twice.
@alexv3357
@alexv3357 3 года назад
Twice that's survived thousands of years since then. I'm sure they had more once upon a time
@andrewlee4455
@andrewlee4455 3 года назад
First was Andromeda... The other was who? I forgot.
@CatHasOpinions734
@CatHasOpinions734 3 года назад
Happens in the Bible, too, though the trope is subverted because the old testament god wanted to brag about how he didn't require human sacrifices.
@eisgnom7383
@eisgnom7383 3 года назад
@@andrewlee4455 well, i count the minotaur, which is not exactly the same format as the other examples but still the same concept. Kreta had to do the human sacrifice thing themselves before they defeated the Athens.
@MABfan11
@MABfan11 3 года назад
@@CatHasOpinions734 of course, the subversion loses some of it's weight when yahweh continues to be a dipshit in the OT
@nachoolo
@nachoolo 2 года назад
I know that this is a small detail. But one of the things I loved from the original game is that it is based on Medieval *Southern* Europe (with the starting village being based on Spanish Mediterranean villages and the city on Italian cities) rather than the usual Medieval Northern Europe of generic fantasy. Same with the monsters, being based on Greek Mythology rather than Norse Myths. The Netflix show throws that through the window and makes it Northern European, changing even the starting village from Spanish-influenced to Generic Medieval Town Nº 372.
@insertname7325
@insertname7325 Год назад
Don't know about you but I consider Spain and Greek as "generic fantasy" as a lot of fantasy based media uses them heavily.
@ChangedMyNameFinally69
@ChangedMyNameFinally69 Год назад
​@Insert Name Eh they still use more aesthetics from England or the Nordic states, I can't think of many fantasy stories that have a distinctive Renaissance Italy vibe
@grodd2040
@grodd2040 4 месяца назад
The Gransys flag is just Scotland's flag with a dragon on it.
@mnalghrenn
@mnalghrenn 3 года назад
The game was so confusing about why the dragon did what it did until you reached the end and found that he was simply a tool of a much greater force. He was sent down to find a person with enough will to fight him. Hell, the game shows a physical change in the dragon during the cutscene where the character inflicts the tiniest wound as a way of showing the dragon has found what it wanted. It immediately fucks off and tells you to come after it when you're ready because it wants you to succeed.
@battleangel4833
@battleangel4833 10 месяцев назад
That was actually fucking sick when this feral monster sees a literal roach scratched it and sentience sparks in its eyes. So many good scenes left out or poorly represented.
@beep3242
@beep3242 3 года назад
It's like they tried to half-ass grimdark. Everyone dies, life sucks, blahblah, but there's no weight because everyone has the emotional capacity of a paper bag and none of their motivations are compelling. I love the original DD, I'm sad they did it so dirty.
@unluckyone1655
@unluckyone1655 3 года назад
Yeah, same here. This show is basically babys first grimdark story. Has little to do with the lore of the game other than some enemies and locations you may encounter in the game. Seriously dont get me started on how this show fudged the games lore
@ananousous
@ananousous 3 года назад
To do grimdark well you have to understand that there are shades of grey or at least that there is no "white" choice (i.e. "evil is evil" and all that) In this anime, everything's black and white with the moral compass of an edgy middle schooler. And worse of all, it's rather preachy about it
@theinquisitorisamage1653
@theinquisitorisamage1653 3 года назад
Hell, if they wanted a grim-dark angle, they could have gone with a story set in Bitterblack Isle. Delving into the unknown depths, uncovering the dark secrets long buried, fighting abhorrent monsters that were once Arisen themselves - I'd rather watch that.
@unluckyone1655
@unluckyone1655 3 года назад
@@theinquisitorisamage1653 and that would be a hell of alot more badass. Missed opportunity there
@theinquisitorisamage1653
@theinquisitorisamage1653 3 года назад
@@unluckyone1655 If this show had an alternate title, it would be "missed opportunities." Thank fuck I only watched episode 1.
@TheCedarFresh
@TheCedarFresh 3 года назад
Shakesperean Dragon quoting Nietzsche has got to be the worst thing I saw today
@GriffinPilgrim
@GriffinPilgrim 3 года назад
When you gaze long into the shit script the shit script gazes also into you.
@syncopatedglory
@syncopatedglory 3 года назад
havigt to hear a fucking dragon say "the human condition" is one of the worst things to ever happen to me. 😂
@coreyeverett5500
@coreyeverett5500 3 года назад
LEGIT! Are they have a fight or a fucking philosophy lecture?
@MrCompassionate01
@MrCompassionate01 3 года назад
It's close to what the game did but wrong in every possible way.
@zenbrown7144
@zenbrown7144 3 года назад
That sounds rad to me, the fact that it's bad disappoints me immeasurably.
@ljrittenhouse4422
@ljrittenhouse4422 2 года назад
What's really disappointing is that we never hear an armorer say "they're masterworks all, you can't go wrong!"
@darkmantlestudios
@darkmantlestudios Год назад
So many missed opportunities
@paulovictormelosantana6560
@paulovictormelosantana6560 10 месяцев назад
Truuuuuuue
@terencemarvel9235
@terencemarvel9235 3 года назад
“ building expectations based on association” very Cyberpunk
@Slick-Salamander
@Slick-Salamander 2 месяца назад
Difference is Cyberpunk could be patched and updated. The show? Not so much.
@savage4242
@savage4242 3 года назад
Dragon's Dogma: "What if we rage in favor of the machine?"
@backup_bokoblin7398
@backup_bokoblin7398 3 года назад
I think I love you.
@Never_heart
@Never_heart 3 года назад
This is truly a way to underrated comment
@femthingevelyn
@femthingevelyn 3 года назад
the dragon literally just said "its what my character would do" also the ending is bullshit because in the game, the reason the arisen becomes a dragon isnt because they killed the dragon for the wrong reason its because they didnt have the required will to take up the mantle of god. the dragon is just a scouting agent for heaven, theyre just looking for another arisen who has more will than them, and as the cycle continues eventually an arisen has more willpower than god and becomes god.
@wilmagregg3131
@wilmagregg3131 3 года назад
except apparently god only has the power to kill mortals and nothing else i admit i felt let down when i beat the game did every good self sacrificing choice and as god i could only either be a douche or do nothing come on at least let me improve the weather or slightly increase the worlds happiness or calmness or SOMETHING come on the evil arisens who become senechal at leats get to kill whoever they want the good just f ing sit there powerless even atlas in the greek myth had more things to do
@femthingevelyn
@femthingevelyn 3 года назад
@@wilmagregg3131 you cant even murder people you can just stagger them and make them drop things
@KnakuanaRka
@KnakuanaRka 3 года назад
Yeah, someone couldn’t be arsed to explain half this lore. >_
@leebard9335
@leebard9335 3 года назад
I love how playing the game again, the scene with the Dragon waking up in free fall has context for why it's so pissed. It realizes it failed at the final hurdle and is now a plot device in another Arisen's story.
@goldthorn1417
@goldthorn1417 3 года назад
@@wilmagregg3131 Simply put, seneschal is essentially just a battery to keep the world turning.
@pixelsabre
@pixelsabre 3 года назад
What disappointed me the most was the dark fantasy tone altogether. The very reason I fell in love with Dragon's Dogma was how it was this bombastic, guitar-riffing epic adventure in its style and presentation at first, before turning into more abstract and high-fantasy themed takes on existential themes and the meaning of struggle and choice. And then comes this show that asks, "Hey, you know what we don't have enough of? Navel-gazing contrived moralizing on the seven deadly sins! Dysfunctional and brutal sexuality! Angry revenge for a dead family! Misanthropes and greedy assholes! Father-figure raising surrogate daughter-figure in a terrible world!" They could have literally changed the IP for Dragon Age and not only would it have been more fitting, we wouldn't have had to waste the unique elements that made Dragon's Dogma stand out. It missed the point about as much as the Monster Hunter movie coming out.
@AntiCensorshipGamer
@AntiCensorshipGamer Год назад
Dragon's Dogma was always dark fantasy though????
@glowcloudwheatproducts495
@glowcloudwheatproducts495 11 месяцев назад
​@@AntiCensorshipGamer DD has dark fantasy elements but I wouldn't really call it that dark. DD is like "the world sucks sometimes but the power of human will is the axis around which this world turns and can result in positive change" whereas most dark fantasy is "people suck and the power of the existing social systems make positive change impossible". Honestly nothing is more characteristic of the latter than dragon age to me. Calling DD dark fantasy is kinda like calling Tolkien dark fantasy because they can sometimes be dark.
@battleangel4833
@battleangel4833 10 месяцев назад
​@@glowcloudwheatproducts495well said mate
@animeotaku307
@animeotaku307 4 месяца назад
@@glowcloudwheatproducts495Eh, even Dragon Age isn’t really dark fantasy. Just high fantasy with some dark elements thrown in for a bit of edge.
@urielseptim5956
@urielseptim5956 2 года назад
“The rantings of an upjumped zealot make for tedious listening.” This adaptation bastardized the dragon along with the rest of the legit interesting and unique lore
@artylars6207
@artylars6207 3 года назад
Story telling in Dragon's Dogma wasn't groundbreaking, but it was Shakespearean compared to the anime
@M_Alexander
@M_Alexander 3 года назад
Most of the game is standard fantasy tropes but they're solidly executed. And there's just enough originality to be compelling.
@nathanlevesque7812
@nathanlevesque7812 3 года назад
Shakespeare is omega level overrated tho
@nathandingy
@nathandingy 3 года назад
@@M_Alexander i dont give a fk about any of that i just wanna climb monsters and stab them
@dalekmasterblaster585
@dalekmasterblaster585 3 года назад
What if I told you that the anime is several years before the game. And Ethan was a flawed Arisen that came before our character. Meaning that the seven deadly sins were a test on Ethan and so that's why we don't see the Seneschal. Don't know it seems like a story with some taste in it afterall. That's why it seems edgy.
@ShadowPa1adin
@ShadowPa1adin 3 года назад
@@nathanlevesque7812 The only true Shakespearean show being made right now is Letterkenny, and by "Shakespearean" I mean "character dialogue contains lot of dirty jokes and creative insults in quick succession that make heavy use of wordplay, rhyming and alliteration."
@TheLordofMetroids
@TheLordofMetroids 3 года назад
Point of order: "people die when they are killed," isn't that bad a line, especially in context. The full line is "people die when they are killed, that's the way it should be," says a man who has been killed three times without dyeing, when he is asked if he really wants to give up his healing factor.
@witzprinz4766
@witzprinz4766 3 года назад
Can you elaborate? I am thinking of fate, misfit of demon academy, and code vein at the same time. What is it that you are saying?
@gunnarschlichting9886
@gunnarschlichting9886 3 года назад
@@witzprinz4766 It's Fate. First route, to be precise. Shirou has Avalon in him, which gives him Wolverine-lite tier healing factor when close enough to Saber. He had taken enough injuries in multiple separate occasions that he should be dead multiple times over, and that healing is the only reason he isn't. Up until this point, he wasn't even aware of the fact that Avalon was in him or he even had a source of healing, so he had basically cheated death and just got lucky. He decides to give up Avalon so Saber can use it instead, since she will need it more for the final battle. Cue "People die when they are killed." He also thinks he shouldn't/doesn't deserve a safety net (partially because of his survivors guilt), and should be just as vulnerable as anybody else. Part of it is also his lack of self worth, in the sense that he prioritizes others over himself every time. He would much rather himself get hurt or die than have others get hurt or die in his place.
@sleepysera
@sleepysera 3 года назад
Ohh, that makes a lot more sense. I always wondered what the context of that meme was or if it was just a bad subbing job like the "pleasure myself with this fish" one.
@timothymclean
@timothymclean 3 года назад
The more you know!
@keybladesrus
@keybladesrus 3 года назад
Fate has a lot of these quotes that make sense in context, but still sound a bit dumb, and are hilarious when taken completely out of context. Shirou is the master of this. "Just because you're correct doesn't mean you're right!"
@KentHambrock
@KentHambrock 2 года назад
You know you're doing something wrong when a literal cult makes better and more subtle anime than you.
@heitorpedrodegodoi5646
@heitorpedrodegodoi5646 Год назад
What anime? What cult?
@nunyab-
@nunyab- 11 месяцев назад
@@heitorpedrodegodoi5646 I assume this is about MB's series of videos about the anime movies funded by the Happy Science cult. Happy Science vol 1, Happy Science vol 2, and Bootleg Avengers
@blixer8384
@blixer8384 3 года назад
Can we stop and really break down just how poorly written Gluttony is? Setting aside the idiotic both sides "Feudalism is good actually" moral of the episode just like the whole plot of the episode makes no senses. Setting aside the fact that this extortion racket makes no sense because the cyclopes is clearly making it harder for the peasants to produce the crops and food that the peasants use to pay their taxes to the mayor. Let's ask the question that the writers never bothered to ask: what does the cyclopes get out of any of this? I mean look at that Cyclops it's fucking huge, human children are like sausagettes to it! A man cannot live by cocktail sausage alone! So what does the cyclopes get from all of this, why would it obey the Mayor just for the privilege of eating a single child once ever six months? The Cyclops does not appear to be coerced into doing what it does so what does it gain from waiting like once a month to eat a single child? Why is the cyclops going along with this plan? The Mayor has nothing that the Cyclops needs, and we are never shown how the mayor could coerce or control the cyclops. The extortion plan requires the mayor to be able to control the cyclops and restrict it's rampages to only against those he wants it to go after. But there's no reason for us to believe the mayor controls the Cyclops and nothing to suggest that the Cyclops benefits from this this arrangement.
@macromail9885
@macromail9885 Год назад
The cyclops is just a stand up guy like that, the mayor asked nicely
@bakedzucchini475
@bakedzucchini475 Год назад
in the game the cyclops were so dumb, even goblins found methods of enslaving them so it could make sense the lord enslaved it somehow, but any sort of negotiation makes no sense
@petchorus3398
@petchorus3398 10 месяцев назад
In game it's actually quite easy to tame cyclopes with food, so easy in fact, that even goblins managed to do it
@lued123
@lued123 10 месяцев назад
The game shows that cyclopes can be tamed, but the show uses a *fucking gigantic* cyclops, like one of those condemned gorecyclopes you find in Bitterblack Isle, and expects us to believe that one human child every six months is enough of a bribe to tame it.
@biraptor6205
@biraptor6205 6 месяцев назад
It's like a whale only eating singular krills daily
@NeoKingGhidorah
@NeoKingGhidorah 3 года назад
Taking out the lore of the dragon and the seneschal and replacing it with generic medieval proselytizing is such an insult. The game genuinely has a unique commentary on death and entropy and the idea of conquering both and the consequences that would have on the fundamental nature of humanity. It's the entire point of the last stretch of the game beyond the dragon boss, and there's SO MUCH room for expansion on that in an entire series.
@sumhuumenn2061
@sumhuumenn2061 3 года назад
Couldn't have said it better. So sad we'll never see the series expand proberly on those concepts, I always thought those parts of the game were really fascinating, as well as surprising for what is at its core a classic hero's journey. Guess they can still reset the season, with the reincarnation cycle that is in the lore, though I think it is unlikely that'll happen.
@DALKurumiTokisaki
@DALKurumiTokisaki 3 года назад
I'm still pissed that they replaced Grigori's (the Dragon ingame) smooth voice and occasional speeches in Latin with generic voice changer with Shakespear speech. They could have expanded the characters already in the the game that had arcs already laid out for them (Mercedes, Selene, Madeline, the Duke, Julian, etc). Also what's with the weird lessons promoting medieval feudalism? You have quests in the game where you do the literal opposite like the option to bring Fournival to justice.
@bretginn1419
@bretginn1419 3 года назад
The commentary of the game wasn't unique. It was pretty generic too. Just had better execution. This was actually a decent adaptation. But I do wish they explored things a bit more. Especially Gran Soren and Salvation.
@soulsearcher9620
@soulsearcher9620 3 года назад
@@sumhuumenn2061 I hoped that Ethan would reach the seneschal but take the peace ending. Give him a happy ending. Or have him fall against the seneschal and become a dragon that way. But no. Never trust Netflix for anime I guess,
@Kramburger11
@Kramburger11 3 года назад
@@DALKurumiTokisaki What makes the Dragon's voice worse is that they actually did get the same voice actor, but just pitch filtered his voice for no good reason.
@AzarothNecra020
@AzarothNecra020 3 года назад
The name Ethan doesn't bother me too much, but I get what you mean. I mean, it's better than Keith. You know? Like, "Look out for the Arisen, Keith!"
@rainofkhandaq6678
@rainofkhandaq6678 3 года назад
For anime Ethan works if the surname is super anime/sci fi as hell. "Eth
@GriffinPilgrim
@GriffinPilgrim 3 года назад
@@rainofkhandaq6678 Not just anime. Luke Skywalker anyone?
@druzo5198
@druzo5198 3 года назад
I understood that reference
@JamesSamson487
@JamesSamson487 3 года назад
That's evil ski teams for you...
@GeteMachine
@GeteMachine 3 года назад
I thought it wasoddly generic for the game, it dpesn't sound like an old-timey name like most of the other characters in the game, but just a generic stereotypical american name. Which is what Japan tends to do, even though the game itself had its own brand of unique names.
@S3metalsymphony
@S3metalsymphony 3 года назад
Seriously, if you haven't played the game, all of this isn't as nearly as stupid and maddening. It's extra hard to swallow for those who have. To explain some parts of the game's story that give a reason for the whole thing: There are 3 sources of time. The God (Seneschal), the Dragon and the Arisen. Everything else in the plane of existence is guided by fate, not will. And even theose 3 have to follow some basic rules. The Dragon's job is to open a window in this fate system by attacking a city or a village or whatever. By doing so, some idiot is bound to rise up against all odds instead of running away. The dragon stops the rampage, acknowledges the one who stood up by taking that idiot's heart and making them immortal (only to time and desease). After that, the Dragon stops killing people and goes back to their lair. Now the newly Arisen has a will of their own, they aren't guided by fate (to be more specific, they were acting on their own since the Dragon started attacking). Like the Dragon once said "time flows with your (the Arisen's) footsteps". The second part of the Dragon's job is to test the Arisen as a replacement for the Seneschal. To sum it up real quick: If the Arisen is killed then that Arisen is being reborn as a lesser dragon. These dragon's are way smaller and seem to have very little to no memory of their human life. They are driven by their instinct which is to hunt and kill. One dragon in the game actually had a brief mental breakdown just before fighting with the Arisen, saying things like "I... must... kill..." or something like that. The main Dragon does have their human memories and no, they don't kill just to kill. If the Arisen kills the Dragon, then they get to challenge the Seneschal in order to take their place. If the Arisen dies by the Seneschal, then they are being reborn as the main Dragon and take on the job of finding another Arisen. If the Arisen manages to kill the God as well, then that Arisen is now the new God and the recently slain Dragon is being reborn once again to continue their duties. As you cn see, the one who gets dicked out most in this case is the Dragon who lives for god knows how long, only to die and live again as an immortal for just as long for once more. There are no extra rules like the seven sins and the Dragon is in no position to make such rules. The Dragon offers to realize a wish of the Arisen's choice for a sacrifice: the Arisen's most beloved person (that can lead to very complicated situations, as the DLC showed us). If the Arisen refuses that offer, they have to fight the Dragon. And then, not even the God is in any position to make any extra rules. As the Seneschal themself state "such is the office I have served", basically saying that even being God is just a job. There's only one small window for the Seneschal to change how stuff works and that's by rage quitting. If the God kills themselves before resurrecting a Dragon, then the cycle is broken and fate stops controlling everyone. The fact that the Dragon serves a higher purpose is very important. If any Dragon could do as they please, then the Arisen would hardly stand any chance against them. The idea that the Dragon makes the fight almost fair is due to the fact that it's just a test for the Arisen. No point in this test if the Dragon just flies around throwing fireballs until one hits the Arisen. The same goes for God. If the Seneschal wanted to, they could just erase the Arisen from existence. But it's not how it works. The saddest part is that the game is actually pretty philosophical. Almost everything in the game symbolizes something.
@philzh7973
@philzh7973 2 года назад
God ducking damn this is a really good post!
@S3metalsymphony
@S3metalsymphony 2 года назад
@@philzh7973 thanks!
@gabrielandradeferraz386
@gabrielandradeferraz386 2 года назад
"everyone is guided by fate except for the arisen" oh so they are cannonicaly npcs
@S3metalsymphony
@S3metalsymphony 2 года назад
@@gabrielandradeferraz386 haha, yeah, pretty much. There's a character - a scholar - who has learned about the universe and has gone crazy. And if you talk to him, he supposedly breaks the fourth wall.. but I haven't tried talking to him so I can't confirm that 😅
@thesmelterswordguy8299
@thesmelterswordguy8299 2 года назад
i know this a year old video, but i hope the original poster of the video sees this.
@rayn0577
@rayn0577 3 года назад
All the great girls in the game that the anime just completely forgets about. Madeline the quirky peddler whose love of money leads to shenanigans, Quina the childhood friend who knows healing magic, Mercedes the lady knight who leads the Enlistment Corps and battles the hydra alongside the Arisen, Selene the former Pawn living in the woods and working as an apothecary. Such a shame the anime was an adaptation in name only.
@lancerguy3667
@lancerguy3667 3 года назад
“Ethan” is a name I eternally relate to the “ctrl+alt+del” webcomic... so now all I can see is a fantasy hero trying to kill a dragon for causing his gamer girlfriend to have a miscarriage.
@GiubileiFernando
@GiubileiFernando 3 года назад
This anime was literaly Loss
@Not_Rui_
@Not_Rui_ 3 года назад
@@GiubileiFernando i hate how correct you are
@EthanCGamer
@EthanCGamer 3 года назад
Great, now I hate my name
@lancerguy3667
@lancerguy3667 3 года назад
EthanCGamer Hate it? You should be honored to share a name with the beloved creator of winter-een-mas!
@diegodoumecq5144
@diegodoumecq5144 3 года назад
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@k.g.7591
@k.g.7591 3 года назад
The fact that the he protagonists name is Ethan reminds me of the fact that the primary protagonist for the fare reaching sci-fi epic Dune's name is Paul.
@mothersbasement
@mothersbasement 3 года назад
And he gets a way better name once the story kicks in!
@k.g.7591
@k.g.7591 3 года назад
Mother's Basement the concept that the whole second name thing might have come from the editors being like "this is asci-fi story set in the far far future and your character is named Paul?! Change it!" And Frank Herbert just deciding to dive into it with both hands is silly, ridiculous even!...and yet...
@andrerobinson3233
@andrerobinson3233 3 года назад
Paul is a reference to the bible.
@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527
@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527 3 года назад
Well in Paul’s defense at least he has a cool last name
@andrerobinson3233
@andrerobinson3233 3 года назад
@@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527 Every name and event in Dune is carefully chosen to advance the thematic goals of the story. Dragon's Dogma is not in the same ballpark.
@PuttyPalMusic
@PuttyPalMusic 3 года назад
The writer must’ve heard that DD was influenced by Berserk so he created the Great Value Berserk instead of learning squat about the games lore. So now Capcom has zero good anime lol
@gabrielmirandaist
@gabrielmirandaist 2 года назад
Tbh, the animation in DD looks better than the recent Berserk anime. Still, it’s hard to compare DD to such a classic story like Berserk.
@Drums_of_Liberation
@Drums_of_Liberation 2 года назад
@@gabrielmirandaist Bruh RWBY looks better Berserk 2016.
@TheManeymon
@TheManeymon 2 года назад
the devil may cry anime was alright
@KanaHyoshi
@KanaHyoshi 3 года назад
"Drugs are bad. Mmmkay?" And then confetti shoots out
@TheZorginator1
@TheZorginator1 3 года назад
2:56 "why do the parents, the largest humans, not simply eat the other two"
@i.147
@i.147 3 года назад
Game Grigori : "This battle you have begun sits at the very heart of all creation. We are the axis about which the world turns, Arisen. Time itself flows with your footsteps! Aye, raise your weapon... Your teeth of steel, your blood-red voice... Show me your power, Arisen! Prove yourself worthy of what lies beyond my corpse! Show that you possess the strength to still my heart. The will to do it. The soul! Slay me, and with me death itself. Stay the fires of destruction!" Anime dragon : "i say nietzsche quotes i found on pinterest which means that i am very intelligent"
@rgt9930
@rgt9930 3 года назад
It's as if a bored seneschal wrote the anime script
@fyrentenimar
@fyrentenimar 3 года назад
@@rgt9930 That explains so much.
@unluckyone1655
@unluckyone1655 3 года назад
@@rgt9930 being stuck in that cloudy place for maker knows how long does weird things to senechal's head
@voidofastora6032
@voidofastora6032 3 года назад
@@unluckyone1655 maker knows ??? are you a dragon age fan by any chance ?
@danalmero374
@danalmero374 3 года назад
@@voidofastora6032 The god of Dragon’s Dogma’s religion is also called the Maker.
@hithedragon7842
@hithedragon7842 3 года назад
This show is one of the worst examples I've seen of one of my least favorite kinds of media, "edgy story that's trying too hard to be morally gray while either not being that at all or inadvertently making itself even more black and white in the process". It's almost impressive.
@AllLifeIsTravesty
@AllLifeIsTravesty 3 года назад
Like, the idea of a corrupt system falling and being replaced by another one is a pretty interesting and, sadly, a very common consequence in the real world. And discussing that all people have darkness in them, that even those who have been victimized can become abusers or the righteous can fall into evil, is an old but still very relevant and compelling debate. *That being said...* this show literally frames it like, "Muah human rights bad". Like dude, you can discuss the deprivation of humanity without going full Mao.
@greyish7212
@greyish7212 2 года назад
The whole message of the series revolves around a goddamn slippery slope fallacy.
@litrim1285
@litrim1285 2 года назад
By “Mao”, do you mean, like Mao in “Code Geass” or Mao Zedong? Sorry, those are the only two Maos I know, so…
@FelisImpurrator
@FelisImpurrator 2 года назад
@@litrim1285 ayy l'mao the dong, glorious chairman of starvation any% speedrunning. (Option B)
@valentin703
@valentin703 Год назад
@@FelisImpurrator That comment made my eyes bleed thank you
@CyberdarkHellKaiser
@CyberdarkHellKaiser Год назад
If it went full Mao then the second they killed the cyclops, a horde of smaller creatures that the cyclops had been keeping away would have come to completely destroy the crops while the landlord that teamed up with him would get executed.
@bryal7811
@bryal7811 3 года назад
Selene is arguably one of the most important characters of the game because she confirms that pawns can have free will or agency. Amazing that they wrote her out of the plot. Also I'd love to see Geoff's revisit of this anime when he plays the game.
@TheGaleden
@TheGaleden 3 года назад
Unless this was based on another time entirely, Then the ignored a whole lot more of the game's plot than just Selene, Like King Edmun, the existence of the Dragonforged, Julien's plot of working with the cult to potentially weaken Gransys, among a myriad of other smaller questlines
@justsomeguywithaforeheadmu6209
@justsomeguywithaforeheadmu6209 3 года назад
I find it ironic that most likely the people who believe in the philosophies this show presents don't like it because it makes their ideals look dum and illogical. (They are but still)
@Myth_or_Mystery76
@Myth_or_Mystery76 3 года назад
Also, wolves hunt in packs.
@jackhazardous4008
@jackhazardous4008 3 года назад
@@TheGaleden like they literally could've just copied the Dragon's Dogma story beat by beat, and it'd be better.
@Maniacman2030
@Maniacman2030 3 года назад
@@jackhazardous4008 I mean, the story isn't even all that long. Traveling(without stones) is the longest part of the game, which was the whole selling point on top of fighting giant beasts.
@BottleWaterson
@BottleWaterson 3 года назад
shame such a overlooked game gets the least flattering adaption possible and is further buried into the capcom vault with the likes of Powerstone and the Clover properties.
@calebhoward7763
@calebhoward7763 3 года назад
Let’s be honest Capcom only acknowledges five or six of their dozens of franchises anyway lol. Street Fighter, Monster Hunter, Mega Man, Devil May Cry, and Resident Evil. You can maybe throw Ace Attorney in there.
@StarlessAH
@StarlessAH 3 года назад
@@calebhoward7763 And even then they barely acknowledged DMC til 5 was a success
@eduardoserpa1682
@eduardoserpa1682 3 года назад
And Street Fighter has had so many issues for the last 5-6 years as well. And Megaman has been mostly ignored for the last 10 years or so (except for Megaman 11).
@rimurutempest4945
@rimurutempest4945 3 года назад
God Powerstone, it’s been a while since I played that, fucking love that game.
@BladeLigerV
@BladeLigerV 3 года назад
Do you know what also hurts. I know of Power Stone. I don’t know what clover is.
@thedevilgoose2482
@thedevilgoose2482 3 года назад
You know, I didn’t actually predict the fat guy/cyclops twist. Because I didn’t consider it a twist in the first place.
@youtube-kit9450
@youtube-kit9450 2 года назад
Yeah, same. I actually thought Geoff had mentioned it beforehand and thought there was a twist to "bad guy and monster cooperate to milk the populus".
@ShadowStarkiller
@ShadowStarkiller 2 года назад
Some people would argue that the twist is that you were expected to be surprised at all. At least I've seen some people say such things.
@kogu9676
@kogu9676 3 года назад
honestly, the thing that dissapoints me the most about this adaptation is that they're probably going to think ''yeah nobody liked this, let's never try it again'' so we'll probably never have a good anime adaptation to the game we all love so much. this makes me very very sad, big corporations suck.
@yuyaricachimuel555
@yuyaricachimuel555 3 года назад
What even gets them doing shit like this!?
@kogu9676
@kogu9676 3 года назад
@@yuyaricachimuel555 money, as usual
@yuyaricachimuel555
@yuyaricachimuel555 3 года назад
@@kogu9676 they ought to have the fucking competence!
@kogu9676
@kogu9676 3 года назад
@@yuyaricachimuel555 honestly, they don't... It's sad like that
@wardrawk
@wardrawk 2 месяца назад
Big corporations suck? You are starting to sound like the lich!
@bakuhakudraws5603
@bakuhakudraws5603 3 года назад
"This whole anime was just an extremely convoluted, impulsive suicide attempt." *Castlevania has entered the chat*
@jackhazardous4008
@jackhazardous4008 3 года назад
DOOM would like a word
@nathanlevesque7812
@nathanlevesque7812 3 года назад
???
@bakuhakudraws5603
@bakuhakudraws5603 3 года назад
@@nathanlevesque7812 (the joke is that the first 2 seasons of Castlevania are literally the exact same plot but done well)
@marekwygnany924
@marekwygnany924 3 года назад
dududu du duuu du
@lucastucker5402
@lucastucker5402 3 года назад
“Don’t worry it’s all good, those villagers will be forced into almost total slavery and thus will do nothing but be productive until they die of exhaustion so it’s a win win.” Wow I never thought about it like that before!
@NeoMicy
@NeoMicy 3 года назад
What bothers me was the MC woke up the snake and made it enter the city. And for some reason the Mc try to blame the addict that the wife is dead?
@OdaManjiro
@OdaManjiro 2 года назад
So the Berserk knockoff cg-anime gets decent animation, but actual cg Berserk doesn't. What a reality to live in....
@gabrielmirandaist
@gabrielmirandaist 2 года назад
I KNOW RIGHT?! Berserk would look better in 2D with 3D supplements, but the anime would have been so much better with this studio! FUCK
@danielsnoap9782
@danielsnoap9782 3 года назад
So, this anime seems to have a tendency to bring up an idea that would actually improve society, then brutally pivots and claims that the idea that only results in the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer is the best and only good option. Did Ayn Rand come back to life to write this?
@carlycrays2831
@carlycrays2831 3 года назад
Ayn Rand is undying.
@obo2999
@obo2999 3 года назад
You clearly know nothing about Ayn Rand
@YayaBunWa
@YayaBunWa 3 года назад
Ouch... That’s a brutal take on Atlas Shrugged. :s Wasn’t she more about hating communism and socialism n stuff?
@obo2999
@obo2999 3 года назад
@@YayaBunWa yes she was, which is why liberals hate her. She grew up under communism and saw a lot of the terrible shit they did, and almost everything she wrote was a reflection on that. Some people, I notice, always feel offended when these ideas are criticized so hating Ayn Rand is like part of internet socialism 101. It's stupid
@fredflinsten449
@fredflinsten449 3 года назад
@@obo2999 liberals - socialists. Pick one lol. They're not the same and the fact that you conflate the two demonstrates your own lack of knowledge on political-economy lol
@riemaennchen
@riemaennchen 3 года назад
Why did they ruin this? Dragon's Dogma is such a great game. It deserved something better. Like a Dragon's Dogma 2 for example. PLEASE CAPCOM MAKE IT HAPPEN!
@Blodhelm
@Blodhelm 3 года назад
Agreed!!!
@GriffinPilgrim
@GriffinPilgrim 3 года назад
It is a great game but I'm not sure it's good adaption material. Games in general are hard to adapt and double that for open, wide ranging games like Dragon's Dogma.
@blademaster4361
@blademaster4361 3 года назад
they are working on it
@poetscotty
@poetscotty 3 года назад
Don't you mean 3 Dragon Dogma: Dark Arisan is the second game
@GriffinPilgrim
@GriffinPilgrim 3 года назад
@@poetscotty No, Dark Arisen was an expansion to the first game and later used as the name for the PC release which included the expansion.
@freshlymemed5680
@freshlymemed5680 3 года назад
Anyone else wish they could have just animated Ashe and Olra's journey and how Bitter Black Isle came to be? The final nail to this coffin is the omission of the Seneschal and the cycle, the only good thing about this is I guess the humanisation of pawns because in the game they're basically emotionless but slowly learn what feeling is like until the day their master dies in which they are granted their masters life force and thus free will.
@mjtechnoviking44
@mjtechnoviking44 3 года назад
The story is basically just Ashe and grette but done badly.
@battleangel4833
@battleangel4833 10 месяцев назад
I like how they showed the dragon flying back to the vortex he spawns from at the beginning because??? He's going for a nappy I guess? Or because it was in the game and that's cool? 😭
@plinkthenecrobird8851
@plinkthenecrobird8851 3 года назад
Damn they had solid lore and setting for them on a silver platter. The dragons motives are actually pretty interesting in the game. It actually IS against their will to maim and destroy. Would actually have loved to see the lore portrayed, makes it such a shame.
@RayPoreon
@RayPoreon 3 года назад
Personally, I don't like how they went with the typical anime trope of "the protagonist is powered by anger/hype", considering the way you survive in the game is through strategy and teamwork. But it's a good thing that the writers clearly haven't played the game, since if they knew that becoming what is essentially a God is one of the game's outcomes then they would double down on preachy bullshit.
@Artemisarrowzz
@Artemisarrowzz 3 года назад
lol it isn't even one of the outcomes, it is THE outcome, the true probably canon ending.
@joelsasmad
@joelsasmad 3 года назад
You probably have a point there. I retract my complaints about them not being accurate to the games at all.
@YuriNoel7
@YuriNoel7 3 года назад
There’s an augment called Exhilaration that the Fighter (which Ethan is clearly based on) vocation gets at rank 5, it boost strength when health is low which was conveyed when Ethan struggled against the Hydra. Still kinda weird they gave him a power up like that but it’s not entirely unfounded within the game itself.
@dalekmasterblaster585
@dalekmasterblaster585 3 года назад
Ethan was a flawed Arisen. He was consumed by wrath since the beggining. Hence we don't see the sensechal or the others. This also means that ethan is not the Arisen that we know. Since we don't see characters from the game. As we all know, DD is a cycle of Arisen. Meaning, we're going to see multiple storiespf Arisens and we'll see thier downfalls.
@dalekmasterblaster585
@dalekmasterblaster585 3 года назад
@alpha All in all we haven't seen an Arisen with that type of rage.
@docilecatfish1370
@docilecatfish1370 3 года назад
The Grigori is a much more compelling character in the game. Unlike the show, the game wasn't obsessed with shoving bad philosophy down your throat.
@davidwilson4446
@davidwilson4446 3 года назад
Actually the opposite, it shoved GOOD philosophy down your throat XD the entire final fight against Grigori in the game is one huge existential crises made worse when you fight the Seneschal
@FFKonoko
@FFKonoko 3 года назад
"wolves hunt in packs, arisen" "Find an opening and strike!"
@musicman24X
@musicman24X 3 года назад
Wow, this entire anime is just deep-throating the boot.
@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat
@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat 4 месяца назад
Might as well be titled “appeal to authority”
@medallionvaliance5349
@medallionvaliance5349 3 года назад
Let me tell you something about how fucking unfair these incredibly classist tones are when compared to the original game’s themes. *SPOILER WARNING!!* In the game, Gransys is a duchy ruled by a mad duke whose court is so decadent as to ignore and exploit the plight of the common people. The duke’s madness originated from the time when he as an arisen sacrificed his beloved to the dragon in exchange for survival and power; he even murders his young wife out of grief, guilt, and utter madness unless you stop him. YOU, a hero from a poor fishing village whose parents were killed in your youth, have the choice to go out of your way to help the common people, buying houses for peasantry who then know you as a friend, saving your kinsmen from being framed and punished under an unjust legal system that favours corrupt nobles, and saving people from goblins just because. Your house is so barren that calling it “humble” is generous, your ambitions are implied to be quaint before the dragon changes everything, and you stay in touch with old friends who become church sisters and wanderers; humble, lower class, DECENT people. The show throws these themes out the window. Ethan starts out the show living in a nice house and is implied to earn a decent living, enough to not need to worry about taking on the responsibility of fathering two children while letting his wife stay at home to do domestic work, and goes morally downhill when he loses this comfortable life. I understand it’s traumatic, but it’s such a departure from the original game’s message; you are a salt of the earth “good fisher” who (compared to Ethan) holds onto your humanity, who sets out to avenge your village and countrymen while battling conspiracy and an upper class that sets out to make your life as difficult as possible. The lower class is not inherently decadent, cruel, or opportunistic, but this show is quick to demonize them and place them on the same level as the tyrannical class that takes advantage of them to fuel an unnecessarily luxurious lifestyle. I will acknowledge that I played a do-gooder character (a female arisen, which makes the “woman in the fridge” cliches so much more infuriating) and that my experience is biasing my take, but canonically the arisen gave all they were to save the world and people they loved. They came from near nothing, and they gave everything until they had nothing more to give. In conclusion, this show really botched what I feel in retrospect was such a vital theme in the game; those in power do not always have your best interest in mind, and those of lower status have more interest in throwing down tyrants than becoming tyrants themselves. Thank you for reading my incredibly Marxist and sleep deprived rant X)
@thomaslareau453
@thomaslareau453 2 года назад
Except Fournival we scrubbed his ass clear of corruption in order to get access to those sweet sweet patriarchs and makers arrow
@duskmare0000
@duskmare0000 2 года назад
​@@thomaslareau453 I think Fournival was innocent... wasn't he? Or was it just that he had committed some crimes but for the greater good? I mean, he does try to kick a family out of a house they were renting but it's not out of maliciousness. It's because they can't pay for the house. You can offer to buy the house from Fournival and give it to the family and he's actually pretty happy with that option since he gets paid and the family can keep the house. Honestly, asking you to negotiate the eviction in the first place is pretty decent of him because he's basically hiring an impartial 3rd party to convince the family to move out. He could, presumably, call on the guards to enact the law and force the family out, but doesn't. Either way, Fournival seems to be a morally neutral or good character. I think the worst thing he does is spoil his daughter.
@spleeneater9481
@spleeneater9481 2 года назад
@@duskmare0000 Yeah, Fournival is pretty chill. I still sent him to jail because he was annoying kinda, but oh well.
@zenkozenko4989
@zenkozenko4989 2 года назад
@@duskmare0000 With how the ledgers paint it, Fournival /does/ acquire rep+money through unsavory, but not entirely illegal means. Character references are usually skewed or in gray tones or are wishy-washy overall. While yes, he has engaged in shady ordeals so has everyone else in the court and the fact he's getting put on trial by other corrupt court members does say something. However, he does provide for Symone and is a loving father, he's also viewed favorably by Father Gefferey, and in "ancient medieval times" this was more than likely providing tithes to keep the church afloat (as a lot of churches did in ye olde tiemes.) He's also placed in a good light by a petition "from a different estate" which really relies on you to decide if that's for providing shady deals or offering services/goods to other capitals, as the Duke is often remarked to be rather frugal in dealings.
@FelisImpurrator
@FelisImpurrator 2 года назад
This paired with the comment explaining how the Arisen you play is literally supposed to canonically be the one to sacrifice themself to kill fate after recognizing that mindlessly following a predetermined hierarchy is the most existentially miserable state of affairs in the universe... Man, this really is a fucking good game. How based can you get?
@aarohalme1020
@aarohalme1020 3 года назад
The dragon didn't damage the village that much in the game. He just went on a beach and killed a bunch of people.
@joseantonioprietosanchez7788
@joseantonioprietosanchez7788 3 года назад
The game and the Anime doesn't share a story only the basics (dragon, arisen and paws) the story in the Anime is a prequel to the story of the game, that dragon isn't our dragon and that arisen isn't our arisen is a prequel, a really bad prequel
@unluckyone1655
@unluckyone1655 3 года назад
I mean, an arisen can become the dragon, only if they get defeated by the final god boss though. In the game, if you defeat the dragon, all hell breaks loose, literally. No hole in the sky, no hole in the capital. Like, have the writers actually played the game, or at least read the game wiki?
@koscheithedeathless6653
@koscheithedeathless6653 3 года назад
@@joseantonioprietosanchez7788 this sounds familiar
@Alias_Anybody
@Alias_Anybody 3 года назад
"That would explain the recurring theme of unsatisfied wives" Savage. I love... dry humour.
@alexanderleonardi3625
@alexanderleonardi3625 Год назад
the "logical" statement by hannah isnt even logical. them being larger and needing more nourishment is *exactly* why it was the correct decision. it uses the same amount of resouerces to maximize the amount of survivors, which would require the same upkeep, and have the longest remaining lifespan.
@typacsk
@typacsk Год назад
"Why does Ross, the largest Friend," etc etc.
@alexanderleonardi3625
@alexanderleonardi3625 Год назад
@@typacsk in addition, you're going to want the survivors to be people who learn faster. children are still in the critical learning period and therefore learn faster than adults. in summary, this is a situation where what is logical and what is moral overlap completely. logic is not cruel. it may be cold, but it is never cruel.
@RadDEATHTRAP
@RadDEATHTRAP 11 месяцев назад
She was stating it doesn’t make sense from a self preservation stand point.
@alexanderleonardi3625
@alexanderleonardi3625 11 месяцев назад
@@RadDEATHTRAP except, again, i already explained why you're wrong.
@RadDEATHTRAP
@RadDEATHTRAP 11 месяцев назад
@@alexanderleonardi3625 you’re arguing semantics. She’s saying the care tires need changing but they’re adding an oil filter. You’re arguing they need a new radiator.
@mattsherlock9636
@mattsherlock9636 Год назад
Children actually need nutrients more than adults because their bodies are still growing and that takes a lot of energy. So it is actually more logical for the children to take priority at feeding time. This is something I notice a lot of lazy writers use, writing someone to sound smart without being smart. Like how Temperance Brenden on Bones constantly mentions how Logical something is, even if she said something completely contradictory the previous episode (I loved Bones, Still do to be honest, but rewatching it makes me realize how little she makes sense to people who actually know things and how often Booths folksy and slightly conservatives wisdom is framed as the right thing even if that is only because Bones is written to be wrong).
@phoenixpoole7667
@phoenixpoole7667 3 года назад
No Seneschal, no Everfall, not even goddamn Bitterblack Isle. The entirety of this anime was in speed run mode and it hurted.
@krejtek9654
@krejtek9654 3 года назад
That's... the point. The reason Ethan failed as an Arisen is because he started speedrunning the story fueled by his rage
@hugoknight4493
@hugoknight4493 3 года назад
Ethan didnt even use a Inn, so he didnt even level up his vocations
@hugoknight4493
@hugoknight4493 3 года назад
@Profile ummm man that joke i said just wizzed passed you, i was talking about the in game mechnic of using an inn to lvl up your skills....wow
@abubabubabuba
@abubabubabuba 3 года назад
@Profile damn thats a really needlessly long way to say "Ethan was at an inn at some point, watch episode 5 bruh."
@GriffinPilgrim
@GriffinPilgrim 3 года назад
@@krejtek9654 Except the mythology of the game doesn't work the way portrayed in the show; the Arisen CAN become the new dragon but by losing to the Seneschal, not by killing the dragon while really angry. Killing the dragon results in a dead dragon and access to the Seneschal regardless of one's state of mind.
@rainyrouge5123
@rainyrouge5123 3 года назад
I feel like this criticism gets thrown around a little too much, but here it fits way too well: This feels like something I wrote and thought was deep and smart when I was 13.
@carlycrays2831
@carlycrays2831 3 года назад
Now, now, I'm sure even 13 year old you would do a better job than this.
@levilatson2995
@levilatson2995 3 года назад
craaaawwling iiiiin my skiiiin kind of sums it up, good song though
@paulgibbon5991
@paulgibbon5991 3 года назад
"Humans are flawed and inherently evil creatures. Anyway, I'm just off to pointlessly murder a bunch of humans for the lols. But I'm definitely still a superior being!"
@darwinxavier3516
@darwinxavier3516 3 года назад
The cringey biased agenda fueled sophistry reminded me of watching a PragerU vid.
@rainyrouge5123
@rainyrouge5123 3 года назад
@@darwinxavier3516 I mean, yeah. Explain the way it treats women.
@dah3071
@dah3071 3 года назад
Considering the dragon in the game was meant to serve as a method for finding a new guardian of the world, basically a God like character, this dragon is way out of the way of its original purpose
@shroudthewolf1105
@shroudthewolf1105 3 года назад
In the Game: The quest to kill the dragon is to test how far will the Arisen go to reclaim their heart. A test of will power. Then ince they kill the dragon they have a choice to become LITERAL GOD and send the previous god down to the world as the next dragon to choose the next arisen to then continue the cycle. The pawns serve the Arisen as the one who will provide comfort and wisdom to the Arisen and also the reason pawns ezist at all is because they were each hand made by several arisen from several worlds. And gain their humanity from your character's sacrifice. Anime: Kill dragon become you just freaking hate it because it took your heart and the lives of your friends and family only to be consumed by your own rage and become the dragon. BUT WHAT THE HELL IS PURPOSE OF PAWNS IN THIS UNIVERSE IT MAKES NO SENSE AND WHY IS SHE A HYBRID CLASS AAAAAAH BY THE MAKER THIS SUCKS
@gameaddict1074
@gameaddict1074 3 года назад
Hopefully Capcom ignores this show and just makes a faithful sequel.
@maximsavage
@maximsavage 3 года назад
Or, re-releases a finished, re-mastered version of the original. The game, as great as it was, felt very rushed at times, and I'd love to see the vision fully realised. (Example: you can be caught in the Duchess Consort's bed chambers, be tortured for it, then set free by the guilt-ridden consort, then walk right back to the throne room and have a polite chat with the Duke.)
@gameaddict1074
@gameaddict1074 3 года назад
@@maximsavage Maybe, but if they do that, they really have to expand the game and not just add a few things here and there, almost like it was a sequel.
@maximsavage
@maximsavage 3 года назад
@@gameaddict1074 I get the feeling that if they finished it, really finished it, there'd be a lot of extra content. Although, an expansion would of course be great.
@gameaddict1074
@gameaddict1074 3 года назад
@@maximsavage But that's the tricky part: what is missing? Also, I would rather they make a new game (remake or sequel) than an expansion, Dragon's Dogma deserves more than that.
@UnknownPerson-wc7wf
@UnknownPerson-wc7wf 3 года назад
@@maximsavage Yeah, there's like an entire WORLD missing from the game
@elizabethagudelo7179
@elizabethagudelo7179 3 года назад
oh my god they made 7 episodes and named them after the 7 deadly sins on my god how can you be that cliche in the year of our lord 2020
@jordanmurray1820
@jordanmurray1820 3 года назад
I didn't realize that I hate it soo much now
@TheDoomBlueShell
@TheDoomBlueShell 3 года назад
I thought it was Geoff doing, but when he said "so in the episode called sloth" I was like, wait what!?
@tremor230
@tremor230 3 года назад
My God...Even fanfictions don't do that anymore.
@francoisdemorcy5084
@francoisdemorcy5084 3 года назад
Each episode went downhill to the end. Ended bad like Seven. Seven was a good movie. This was garbage
@dalekmasterblaster585
@dalekmasterblaster585 3 года назад
Actually that is the theme. And ultimatley the flaw of Ethan. Give me a chance okay. Ethan is a flawrd Arisen ever since his wife was schorched by the Dragon. He was consumed by wrath and hate, but also developed pride for destroying the dragon. The titles are cliche, BUT THEY WORK. Every sin was propelled onto Ethan and the whole damn thing is a test from the Senschal.
@wilsonkierankitsune
@wilsonkierankitsune 2 года назад
After watching Anime America's recent video about how bad the Japanese Government treats their citizens this series becomes more frighteningly put in perspective: this isn't endorsing "feudalism" per say, but rather trying to enforce the Japanese ideals of people sacrificing everything, including personal well-being and safety, for "The good of the country". The peasants going "crazy" after being freed from the duke well that's just to show that Japanese citizens don't have the self-control to govern themselves and should support their leaders no matter how much they just take from them and consume. Not divvying up the gold to help veterans, of course now that they don't contribute you should just toss them aside and give the government their rightful wealth by doing your job. The people hiding in the cave just getting high, Ethan proposes bringing back the "lord" to put them to work because anyone who refuses to slave away for the government might as well be so high they can't do anything useful. I don't know where the unsatisfied wife and succubus come into things... well the succubus could easily be interpreted as "Sex is bad and you should avoid learning about it" thing that series like Shimoneta and "Oh ladies in your savage seasons" criticizes. As for the Pride and dragon change thing... I think maybe "anyone who tries to upend a powerful figure will become just as corrupt so why bother trying"? but that's a stretch even for me. Toxic Bushido would be the term I use to describe it, the idea that people aren't individuals but pieces of a whole whose only purpose is to support the country even when there isn't a crisis going on. Sorry for the rant but I just had this revelation and had to get it out of my system
@Fatestringer
@Fatestringer 2 года назад
You probably put more thought into this show than the creators/writer's of it i just wished it was similar to the game
@cherriegetison6093
@cherriegetison6093 3 года назад
I love how consistently Geoff despises neoliberalism. Same honestly 😂
@metaloverlord7465
@metaloverlord7465 3 года назад
Let's be honest, the dragon was the most relatable and endearing character in the show. After seeing how terminally stupid everyone in this world acted I have nothing but sympathy for the beast.
@thomaseasley2938
@thomaseasley2938 3 года назад
i like to imagine that he said dragons kill just because for the sheer fucking hell of it. it's not like the humans in this show have much in the brain department
@NM-gv3mu
@NM-gv3mu 3 года назад
"Dragon, why did you do these atrocities?!" Dragon: "I had to make someone an Arisen so they could go on a "hero's" journey, to facilitate cool fight scenes."
@yuki3754
@yuki3754 3 года назад
Agreed, it must be done.
@joshualayton1905
@joshualayton1905 3 года назад
But he also contracted the stupid
@thomasraines1396
@thomasraines1396 3 года назад
@@joshualayton1905 he knew which is why he wanted to be put down.
@festusxiii5724
@festusxiii5724 3 года назад
Interesting possible twists this show could have done. 1. The Noble could have been leaving the ogre alive because he found a way to control the ogre and believes the loss of life is worth the benefits of having a ogre in his control (possibly a weapon he could use against the dragon) 2. The man actually starts wreaking the goblins to the point they start running away in fear. Because of this he decides to let them go showing off how scared they were of him. Once they’re a good distance away however one of them fires an arrow killing the wife instantly 3. The workers all think that the moss is safe to smoke and have before been unable to for the lord made it illegal in the town. However, it turns out the lord secretly has a process that deludes the moss to a safe point while smoking it without this process will simply lead to a painless death. The lord keeps this process a complete secret to grow a monopoly on it and any unofficial routes will likely accidentally kill off their customers and likely themselves when sampling the merchandise. Edit: probably giving this topic more thought than it deserves but came up with a few more things 1. Continued. This twist can go many ways. Maybe the protagonist decides to help the noble. Maybe after he helps the Noble a mysterious man comes forward and says the king will just control the people. Maybe when he hears that the protagonist kills the noble but then it turns out the mysterious man profits greatly from this so maybe he lied. How many twists until the protagonist just gives up even trying in this situation? 2. Continued. Instead of the woman actually showing sexual desires for the protagonist make it clear that this is all an act because this is the only way she thinks she can stay safe; by kissing up to a man that may protect her. Maybe you can make it tragic by showing the reason she thinks like this is because she was raised like that. 3. Continued. Continuing with the first twist how the moss actually kills if I wanted to keep the theme of the sins perhaps instead of being lazy druggies maybe they’re being lazy and ignoring the warning signs that the moss may be dangerous. Also when the hydra attacks the villagers look on in horror. Not wanting the painful death of being swallowed whole and slowly digested they look to the moss they have. The episode ends with one of the girls screaming as they see the smoke rising from the houses. It’s up to the viewer to imagine how many people they save if there’s any left to save as well as any scenes that end up like the ending of The Mist 4. This is for the lich episode. Keep the Basic structure but actually make the monster that’s a representation of greed actually be a representation of greed. Don’t do this give us the orange lantern and not this Karl Marx bs. The rude knight still believes that this is due to their “treasonous idea”. That is till one last scene where we see that the knight’s lord has come down with the curse of greed as well and the once self righteous knight looks down while listening to his king’s manic laughter and in his hands are a couple bags of gold ready to be given to the soldiers’s family. It leaves there letting the viewer to think about what happens next. Does he stick to his principles? Does he do the right thing? Is he found out by the king and is tried for treason? Is the cursed coin among those bags of treasure?
@KnakuanaRka
@KnakuanaRka 3 года назад
Indeed. You know that this show is crap when RU-vid commenters can pull more original plot twists out of their @$$es. 😁👍
@festusxiii5724
@festusxiii5724 3 года назад
@@KnakuanaRka thank you I’ll take that as a compliment
@Cocojonut-fp8ek
@Cocojonut-fp8ek 3 года назад
The goblin episode was fucking cringe
@somethingotherthanmyrealname
@somethingotherthanmyrealname 2 года назад
On that first one, that’s sort of a thing that’s already established in the canon. Salvation (dragon-worshipping apocalypse cult) have the ability to, to a degree, control monsters by using magic. The monster will even have a distinct mark on it to signify this. So, like everyone else here, you’ve made far better use of the established lore than the writers of this show did.
@festusxiii5724
@festusxiii5724 2 года назад
@@somethingotherthanmyrealname and if I may add accidentally. I haven’t played the series so I know nothing about the lore except what I’ve learned in the comments of this video
@josephikrakowskiwithflextape
@josephikrakowskiwithflextape 3 года назад
I personally believe that Dragon's Dogma, the game, is a goddamn masterpiece. That being said, this show was a mistake and is an insult to the game.
@danielmoloney4129
@danielmoloney4129 3 года назад
fact: the dragon from the game and the anime are the same person; David lodge. they butchered his voice with filter in the anime.
@yuyaricachimuel555
@yuyaricachimuel555 3 года назад
Oof......
@NenMagem9106
@NenMagem9106 День назад
Wait, it's really him? Jeeze, at least let him speak a bit of latin...
@clacks5605
@clacks5605 3 года назад
His transition from 'Drugs are bad, mkay' drugs are- OH SH~T A HYDRA!' scared me more than the actual episode.
@ananousous
@ananousous 3 года назад
The Hydra was just a drug induced hallucination. At least, I wish this anime had been...
@ohnoyoudidnt8675
@ohnoyoudidnt8675 3 года назад
The “Drugs are bad, m’kay?” Bit had me rolling on the ground laughing
@dalekmasterblaster585
@dalekmasterblaster585 3 года назад
Honestly they could've handled that sin better.
@svejobaron
@svejobaron 3 года назад
For sloth they could had portraied my university Lifestyle
@Fluffkitscripts
@Fluffkitscripts 11 месяцев назад
I love grimdark where all problems are eventually chalked up to “there is a magical force of suck we invented whose only purpose is suck for no particular or rational reason, now feel bad about the suck”
@danyms4082
@danyms4082 3 года назад
The Dragon in the game probably has one best voices in video games, the one in the anime sounds like a 14 year old trying to be Shakespearian villain
@yuyaricachimuel555
@yuyaricachimuel555 3 года назад
Sad thing is, both are the same voice actor..
@rythmiccoma2809
@rythmiccoma2809 3 года назад
Man the thing that made me most mad at this show was how they treated the dragon. Look at how they massacred our boy! I would listen to Grigori read me bedtime stories while I murdered him because that is our relationship and the cycle is neverending but not this thing. This ain't our dragon
@thomaseasley2938
@thomaseasley2938 3 года назад
i haven't played dragon's dogma, but from the clips i have seen, grogori seems like an amazingly made dragon, with a great personality and melodious voice. i'm pretty sure game grigori would go on a fucking crusade to destroy anime grigori, because that just ain't the dragon we know and love
@BlazingAbyss
@BlazingAbyss 3 года назад
The weirdest part is I think the voice actor for Grigori's was actually the same, but I couldn't even tell because they put some sort of crappy filter over their voice.
@thomaseasley2938
@thomaseasley2938 3 года назад
@@BlazingAbyss oh you have got to be kidding me
@purplefanta7142
@purplefanta7142 3 года назад
@@thomaseasley2938 Nope, I was super excited when I saw they had the same voice actor but I dont know what they did differently to make him so weak. Probably partially time constraints and the voice actor might be very old now. Not sure.
@thomaseasley2938
@thomaseasley2938 3 года назад
@@purplefanta7142 well that makes sense
@MorallyAmbigousEnby
@MorallyAmbigousEnby 3 года назад
I had to stop watching for a bit around the 27 minute mark because I'm genuinely scared the show is going to say something worse than "slavery is good because it stops people from doing drugs"
@Jay-ho7sf
@Jay-ho7sf 3 года назад
Well I have news for you
@catzor4795
@catzor4795 3 года назад
It's true though.
@aria5614
@aria5614 3 года назад
It doesn't even do that we have slavery still it's called Prisons.
@CaptainTitforce
@CaptainTitforce 3 года назад
@@aria5614 how is being a slave the same as being a prisoner (assuming that you have actually done something against the law) ?
@DemagogueBibleStudy
@DemagogueBibleStudy 3 года назад
@@CaptainTitforce Maybe you don't live in America and are coming at this with a different perspective but, uh... "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, _except as a punishment for crime_ whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction."
@Ninakoru
@Ninakoru 3 года назад
Not that Dragon Dogma's lore is rich as, say, Dark Souls, but they stripped off 75% of it to make a dumb short re-interpreted version and run it poorly. The review is quite accurate in most points, if you knew about all the game plot you would be even more pissed off.
@Painkiller1189
@Painkiller1189 2 года назад
There is also the first episode being a gigantic red flag with Ethan's family. Background exposition, pregnant wife, everyone is happy, all the usual and generic red flags. They don't even try to hide it for the entire episode, and then somehow you have to pretend to be shocked when something you saw coming a mile away happens. My fault for being hyped due to how much I love DD and DD:DA but holy shit that was awful. Also gamewise, Hannah wasn't possible. Pawns can't be Magick Archers, but that's just nitpickkng.
@jakestavinsky3480
@jakestavinsky3480 3 года назад
Small story because Dragons Dogma has one of my favorite gaming memories. Spoilers, I guess. Theres a dungeon in the last part of the first act of the gane/first part of the second act. It is more or less a spiral cylinder downward. Halfway down is your first encounter with a Ogre- a fairly difficult miniboss. Absolutely kicked my ass the first few times i fought him. One time he literally dropkicked me off the edge, falling for a solid 30 seconds to my death. On my last attempt of the night, im crawling on its back stabbing its neck like a angry mosquito with a knife. However, it stumbled off the edge- with me on it. So im watching the screen, me falling for the longest time, clinging to this Ogre, just emotionally defeated. When i finally hit the ground, the Ogre takes all the fall damage and im there, at the bottom, my destination, completely unharmed. So I grab the plot orb (tm) i need to grab. This activates the plot orb worms (tm) that shoot fireballs to spawn. Now the game wants me to run ALL the way back up in a daring escape. MY escape involved running dick first through half the dungeon i didnt kill. So i was running around lost and confused while zombies tear at my face and fireball worms spitting on me. I eventually made it out after using all my healing items, and all my pawns still died. Thats the best part of Dragons Dogma. Its the wholly unique experience i had with it.
@rogerogue7226
@rogerogue7226 3 года назад
Okay, that is both hilarious, and a great reccomendation for the game, because it actually allowed you the freedom for something like that to happen. No invisible walls or instadeath pits, just a fully functional dungeon.
@jakestavinsky3480
@jakestavinsky3480 3 года назад
@@rogerogue7226 you can literally pick up bandits and throw them off cliffs.
@esper2776
@esper2776 3 года назад
@@rogerogue7226 In my new game+ runs I get a revive item and just yeet myself to the bottom, die from fall damage, and then use the item to get back up. The freedom it gives you to just mess with the game is quite fun
@CombatSportsNerd
@CombatSportsNerd 3 года назад
Jake Stavinsky I need to buy this freaking game . . .
@jakestavinsky3480
@jakestavinsky3480 3 года назад
@@CombatSportsNerd you do- it goes on sale all the time on Steam
@bronzytwo0533
@bronzytwo0533 3 года назад
(Spoilers for dragon's dogma) I think one of the worst things was how they handled the arisen and dragon parallel. You see, the dragon isn't strictly evil, he is a test for the arisen. The arisen is destined to become god and the dragon is sent out to find a worthy person for the title. That's why grigori attacks cassardis, he's looking for a worthy individual and what does he find? As guards flee in terror, you the arisen pick up their swords to defend your home. It was never a story of revenge, it was a story of courage. A story of someone brave enough to face the odds to save others was seen as worthy by a dragon to be the next god of the world. But it wasn't just a battle. Grigori gave the arisen deal, a deal that would cost him his worthiness (something he didn't know about). A deal to offer his love in exchange for the safety of the world. The dragon tested arisen mercilessly. There is so much wrong with the main 2 characters of the story it's ridiculous
@pabloosset2533
@pabloosset2533 3 года назад
I'd like to add that Grigori is also a much more interesting character in the game. For starters, the way he fulfils his role, which is basically to die, even complimenting you during his boss fight. The fact that he absolutely sticks to his word if one chooses to do the sacrifice. Hell, just the implication of his journey prior to his current situation is fascinating. In the anime they decided that "killing entire villages is my nature" made for a more interesting antagonist.
@Watchful049
@Watchful049 3 года назад
In the anime the dragon kept saying its in its nature to kill people like an animal but it seems like its just sadistically terrorizing people. Grigori actually had a reason to attack Cassardis: to find a worthy Arisen. The guards run away and your character takes a sword and attacks Grigori, making you worthy. Grigori leaves once it finds an Arisen. The guards in the anime fight the dragon but it still continues to wreak havoc and kills a kid and prego woman cuz much mature anime
@CreditR01
@CreditR01 3 года назад
The game premise actually sounds really cool. I'll have to check it out sometime.
@bronzytwo0533
@bronzytwo0533 3 года назад
@@CreditR01 you won't regret it. The story is really good and the gameplay is phenomenal. Ask anyone about combat and they will tell you it's unparalleled
@ExeErdna
@ExeErdna 3 года назад
@@bronzytwo0533 Yup. Personally, the best Magic System you'll ever use. Throwing out your first Maelstrom is amazing
@GamerGrovyle
@GamerGrovyle 3 года назад
28:48 "Breathing is a need, If we don't do it... we die!" And presumably the same goes for the Dragon. Assuming the author has two brain cells to rub together it means that the Dragon is driven by an instinctual need that will cause him immeasurable suffering and drives him to kill humans.
@somethingotherthanmyrealname
@somethingotherthanmyrealname 3 года назад
As an Ethan, I’m offended by association to this guy
@jackhazardous4008
@jackhazardous4008 3 года назад
They could've named this anime after anything else and nobody would know the difference
@joelsasmad
@joelsasmad 3 года назад
"Dragon Sins" would probably be a more accurate name but now it makes me just think of the theme song from Dragon Tales.
@RoyalFusilier
@RoyalFusilier 3 года назад
Nobody would have watched it, though. So, a complete victory all around.
@D-Havoc
@D-Havoc 3 года назад
Dragon Claw Z.
@InoMercy
@InoMercy 3 года назад
Grigori's design and the concept of pawns is pretty unique to this series. Literally everything else about this is generic as fuck, so just dropping those two things would leave with a paint by numbers Mcfantasy.
@Chyguy
@Chyguy 3 года назад
It really sucks that this anime completely missed the entire mark of what Dragons Dogma was even about. The seven deadly sins gimmick is so uninspired and dull. The arisen doesn't even become a dragon by succumbing to rage, they become a dragon by losing a duel with fucking God. I want to enjoy it, but its story doesn't even do Dragons Dogma's justice. Say what you will about how little of the game is dedicated to the Dragon and Arisen struggle, at least the game put you doing things that built the world, and a lot of it was voluntary world building too. The Salvation cult in the game was better than anything in the anime and it wasn't even a focal point of the game, just the designers pulling a long-con troll on the players by saying "none of that meant anything". The only part it even somewhat did decently was the Pawn, Hannah. She slowly became more Humane and less rigid, as the will of the master shapes the soulless pawn, but even that is somewhat rocky. Lots of hype, and it delivered poorly. At least it might garner enough people to play the game so that a second one gets made.
@purplefanta7142
@purplefanta7142 3 года назад
Well to be fair about salvation, since Grigori was so old, its no surprise when you think about it that he would gain a cult following. Seeing as how Dragonforged was 1000+ years old and Grigori had his heart too.
@timothymclean
@timothymclean 3 года назад
I don't know if I want to see what a Dragon's Dogma 2 would be like if it was made to appeal to fans of the anime...
@gameaddict1074
@gameaddict1074 3 года назад
@@timothymclean I really hope they just ignore the anime.
@unluckyone1655
@unluckyone1655 3 года назад
If they wanted to tell a sad nihilistic tragic grimdark story, then they could have told the story of the Dark Arisen of the Bitterblack dlc. That story is PRIME grimdark fodder. I mean, it literally is a tragic lovestory with a sad bittersweet ending
@AtlisDe
@AtlisDe 3 года назад
To be honest, I kind of like the idea as a way to test to the arisen, but it would be more fitting to know why they are being tested for these sins; to be able to be worthy as seneschal, unfortunate the cycle never really made it in the same way the game talked about.
@jarretirish7281
@jarretirish7281 9 месяцев назад
it amazes me that the cannon ending to this anime is the ending they threw in as a joke, where if you die on the final boss you become the dragon and repeat the ‘endless cycle’. the entire point of dragons dogma is that even though you triumphed over an impossible goal and became an omniscient god, you turned it down to reject fate. ethan literally missed the entire point of the story and failed his quest, which is honestly kind of fitting for the anime. idk if they were geniuses or idiots but they did in fact make an anime
@SurrealLumberJack
@SurrealLumberJack 5 месяцев назад
I wouldn't say that was a joke ending, it was more of just a separate ending showing where new dragons come from.
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