The Robert Horry-Danny Ainge beef is what happens when your rival becomes your coach

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Why shouldn't retired players coach right away? Well because you might become coach of someone you played against in heated 7-game playoff series two years in a row. In other words, someone you hate, who also hates you. As was the case for Phoenix Suns coach Danny Ainge, and ex-Houston Rocket Robert Horry.
Although.. . there is an argument to be made that the opposite is true-- retired players should rush into coaching and hope to have an enemy on their team. And perhaps all players should hope to be coached by their enemy. Because this beef, while surely unpleasant for both parties in the moment, was good for Danny Ainge's image, and was a career boon to Horry. I'll explain. In the video. Not here, there's no time, bye!
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@michaelthreepeat Год назад

I've never understood how you can be drafted in 1992, never play for the bulls, and retire with 7 rings. This dude is mathematical anomaly.

@hectorlopez1069 9 месяцев назад

He was at the right teams, at the right times.

@withalittlehelpfrom3 8 месяцев назад

Tbf He still played for Phil Jackson

@madmartian2 7 месяцев назад

Still clutch 🤷‍♂️

@Matt-cr4vv 6 месяцев назад

He played for all the right teams and played a key role on those teams. He played on pretty much the only team besides the Bulls who won rings in the 90s that weren’t rhe Bulls. But then makes a nice move by going to the next two dynasties that followed the Bulls. And playing for as long as he did never hurts either. Possibly the best role player in terms of accepting his role, seeking the right teams, and when he was called upon he was always clutch. Big shor Bob for a reason

@michaelthreepeat 6 месяцев назад

@@Matt-cr4vv Yes, and also an example of how to adapt, because I remember in the beginning he was a dunker, a high flyer, I remember a game in his rookie year or maybe second year with the Rockets in which he dunked on 7 straight possessions, it was amazing, then as the years went on he adapted himself to become mostly a shooter. He always played within the system, with patience. Many systems players give a similar vibe, but he ended up being at the right plage at the right time.

@brawndothethirstmutilator9848 Год назад

I love the way Hakeem chose to trash talk, like a father lecturing his son: “You are a hypocrite with your inexcusable behavior. You should be God-fearing.”

@GalacticCoast Год назад

Truth! The personal grace (likely the result of becoming a devout Muslim) Hakeem developed over time is truly beautiful as he was a hot head who got into a lot of fights as a young player only to find some kind of internal peace that completely changed him and saved his relationship with the Rockets ownership just when it looked like he was going to leave Houston before the two championships. I spent a few hours with him during a personal appearance he did back in 2012 or so that I was working and he is such a kind and sweet gentleman. They say "don't meet your heroes" but in the Dream's case it only increased my appreciation of him as a lifelong Rockets fan. Of course, I also know he is a shrewd negotiator that has amassed an amazing real estate portfolio here in Houston and Galveston with some very aggressive and eye-catching moves. So dude is not soft, but just projects such an inner peace, grace and control. Similar to his game as grace and control are two appropriate adjectives for his play.

@redskullz1249 Год назад

More like the guy from that Key & Peele skit. "God is the teacher, Derek is the student, and I am God's instrument." xD

@flynt1977 Год назад

I think everything about Hakeem is honorable. Much like Manute. Such a respected person. Manute may not have been an all-star on the court but he was in life off the court.

@synapse913 Год назад

That is such an Hakeem story. Love that guy.

@insertnamehere7322 Год назад

“You should be god fearing” might have to get added to my vocabulary 😭

@malz92 Год назад

And Horry's punishment was to win 5 more rings 😂

@Sukuun Год назад

Many of them at the expense of the Suns

@AT-rs9jz Год назад

Horry Hip check Steve Nash.

@hexmark21 Год назад

@@AT-rs9jz this incident now feels a bit more meaningful given the context provided

@kenrickeason Год назад

@@AT-rs9jz The Refs acted blind in those Suns vs Spurs games... NBA Refs are an odd bunch..

@cyrillesu Год назад

@@kenrickeason NBA refs bet on games.

@rjm22nd Год назад

That infamous towel throw changed the course of NBA history forever! As a Laker fan, how can I ever stop thanking Big Shot Rob

@777RL Год назад

And Vlade 😎

@saiconjr Год назад

yeah as a Spurs fan I can say Bob definitely knew when to hit shots that counted the most towards the success of his career

@angelusgnz5784 Год назад

@@ripralph09 don’t forget to keep crying about it! It’ll definitely help you feel better about your sorry franchise!

@jmac6743 Год назад

@Angelus GNZ 😂 They'll cry about it for as long as they live.

@eksit101 Год назад

DA just helped us again. Thanks Danny!!!!!

@erocrush Год назад

Irony: Ainge sent Rob to LA expecting him to be buried behind Shaq and Kobe, but Rob was always open because of Shaq and Kobe.

@diypictures Год назад

And sounds like he was right about the culture in PHX. He had success everywhere else and those teams had a lot better to great cultures.

@thebestcentaur Год назад

Hakeem saying someone “needs to be God-fearing” sounds like an explicit threat, ngl😅😂

@BigPurp9 Год назад

That’s just how we Nigerians talk 😂😭

@kvltizt Год назад

the “…because I will send you to meet him!” is implied lol

@d3adyoutubeaccount Год назад

Hes Muslim

@jaredthehawk3870 Год назад

For a soft spoken guy like Hakeem that is an absolutely savage remark.

@thebestcentaur 8 месяцев назад

@@d3adyoutubeaccountthanks, I can use Wikipedia too👍🏾

@austinemms9772 Год назад

This rivalry is a whole “Well, this is awkward…” situation.

@shauns.6231 Год назад

😂 agreed.

@mnelly6877 Год назад

It honestly sounds like a Robert horry prism episode expounding on his success after the "big miss bob" suns saga would be fun

@armin38822 Год назад

Players like Danny Ainge and Robert Horry are so hard to find. Role players who can go into a fight with superstars and not get scared.

@Ill.righteous31 3 месяца назад

The only difference is that horry won and won alot (the most by any player who didn't play with Bill's celtics)

@kenpachiharimaredfox3601 Год назад

It's a great day for secret base

@ijoy5480 Год назад

One of the best sports channels in the game :)

@johnmaring7056 Год назад

Yeah, Keep ‘Em Comin’, Guys!

@mattpetrigala7639 Год назад

Seven rings is absolutely crazy. That’s beyond impressive.

@user-nx9ec8mr9p Год назад

He really just got lucky with the teams he was on.

@diypictures Год назад

@@user-nx9ec8mr9p I'd agree if he wasn't a contributor to those rings.

@nastypiglosi1788 8 месяцев назад

@user-nx9ec8mr9p he hit a lot of clutch shots and had some good games too. There's a reason why those teams wanted him and had him on the court in tight games down the wire.

@chess_on_toilet 3 месяца назад

We make our own luck in life

@HipsterShiningArmor 10 месяцев назад

"Tree bites Man" is still one of the funniest headlines in sports history

@daschwah Год назад

It’s utterly unfathomable to me that Ainge is the only athlete in history to be voted first-team HS all-American in baseball, basketball AND football. Dude always looked like he should have been bagging groceries, but he was an absolute freak of a player.

@TheBuddha337 11 месяцев назад

Really? That is pretty interesting. Would've thought there would be at least a few more.

@Jeff-jb6qf 10 месяцев назад

Very impressive

@meekmeads 5 месяцев назад

Level of Highschool athletics is vastly overrated.

@jasonwolfe3252 Год назад

The irony is that they had similar careers. Both were high contribution, sharp shooting, role players that played with hall of famers on perennial contending championship teams.

@sittinonthegodamcornerdoindope Год назад

It’s not that ironic , a lot of guys had careers like that

@chuckplaysgames7925 Год назад

Ainge averaged 27 and 11 , since when is that a role player?

@sittinonthegodamcornerdoindope Год назад

@@chuckplaysgames7925 that never happened , did you look up “ainge stats” and assume his 11 points on 27 min a game was 27 and 11?

@chuckplaysgames7925 Год назад

@@sittinonthegodamcornerdoindope my bad was half ass watching the video and seen the part about what he averaged when he joined the suns. Too young to have watched Danny ainge lol at around the 2:13 mark 🤣

@piscator2813 Год назад

Horry played most minutes and led his team in all stats except scoring (close 3rd) in the 1995 finals series. Dude looked like an all star then.

@AETERNVS Год назад

Actually Robert Horry had a bigger battle to fight during those times. When he was with Phoenix, he found out that his daughter had a rare disease. That's when he started to see basketball under a different light. After his 2002 shot against the Kings, they asked him how he did it, he answered: "I have a sick daughter, I've been through worse in my life. Nothing like this can really question me". We told the full story on our video about him if you want to check it out.

@elliemyers6435 Год назад

Yeah. In Jeff Pearlman's book on the Shaq/Kobe Lakers, he talks about this. How Bob really was more angry at the situation he was put in than he was at Phoenix/Ainge. When he got traded, it took him away from his daughter, and being able to be near her for her care, and that's the biggest reason he was so disgruntled in Phoenix. Yes, stuff with Ainge bubbled up afterwards, but being away from his kid was really the biggest source of his anger.

@tim.noonan Год назад

Tacky little self-promo at the end there 🤢

@JacksonMack3742 Год назад

@@tim.noonan if you don't want to check it out ya, but there could be some sports history nerd sharks swimmin these waters ya never know

@AETERNVS Год назад

@@elliemyers6435 Nice insight Ellie. Horry was more like in a situation where nothing was bigger than his daughter's health, and just couldn't care that much about basketball discussions. He only wanted to be with her. Everything turned out great for him, weirdly that heartbreaking situation with his daughter is what gave life to the 'Big Shot Rob' era. He was no more a basketball player, but her daugher's hero, all that truly mattered to him.

@AETERNVS Год назад

@@tim.noonan Nah, we don't do that, it's just because we made the video about it. Maybe someone is interested, who knows. We ain't out here putting out cringy links and stuff, we just loved this story and wanted to talk about this deeper side of the plot

@zlinedavid Год назад

Ainge didn’t have a half bad career after that either. He’s the one who brought KG and Allen to Boston, won a ring with them, then a few years later, robbed the Nets blind on that KG/Pierce trade.

@DeadSezSo Год назад

Did the same to the twolves with that gobert trade lol

@muggsyaxton8085 Год назад

If it's a Clara secret base episode, I'm watching it instantly.

@ThatOneDude219 Год назад

100%

@thejmc4074 Год назад

I’m the opposite. Logging off.

@muggsyaxton8085 Год назад

@@thejmc4074 that's cool; there are no knives involved.

@jsaranas41 Год назад

@@thejmc4074 yeah... id rather have Seth Narrating the SB vids

@OldHeadTrivia Год назад

Kareem has six rings, 5 with the lakers and one with Milwaukee Just a clarification, not trying to hate on the video. Excellent video! Also it’s really really easy for stuff like this to slip through.

@papanonstoppa9686 Год назад

I was scrolling the comments waiting to see if someone else noticed the same thing lol

@kenrickeason Год назад

I know I'm not the one to nitpick things but widely known things should not be a mistake in the things that you are apart of..

@hashiman1 Год назад

Yeah I noticed it too, tbh this video was an overrated beef…their running out of ideas

@17thNO Год назад

@@hashiman1 Yeah they did. Both Singe and Horry are annoying and successful basketball players.

@professorxaviour3649 Год назад

@@17thNO don’t put horry in the same annoying category as Danny ainge. That’s not even a debatable comparison! There is no one as pathetically annoying as Danny ainge. Robert horry has had a flawless career!

@jamesmarshall6619 Год назад

As a Suns fan this hurt, I remember those losses to the Rockets all too well. We blew several opportunities to take control of both series, had the Rockets on the rope in game 5 of the 95 series when we were up by 2 and Barkley shooting two free throws to seal the game and he missed both, Wesley Person's shot going in and out at the buzzer. At the same time that was such a cheap shot by Ainge and I remember it well. You cheer for a guy like Ainge when he's on your team but at the same time he made it hard to like him, especially if you grew up hating the Celtics in the 80s as a kid like I did. Hated Robert Horry as well but he was just a bad fit in Phoenix, once he was able to go back to playing his role he was great at it, as clutch a player that has ever existed. As for Ainge, still unlikable sports person.

@Damnitjim7 Год назад

Bit of a suns fan myself, tho mj ruled the day or Era. Interesting tho as a kid there was always this air around these 2 like every hated them, even when Bob won chips with lakers and spurs I still couldn't shake this feeling like I wasn't sposed to like Horry. Not that it was an issue for me just nice to see where those sentiments actually came from and why

@iaminhuman9357 Год назад

@@Damnitjim7 Spurs fan here I believe some Suns fans dislike Horry cause of him hip checking Nash into the announcers table when we beat yall in the playoffs in 07

@southstar9931 Год назад

Rockets fan here. That series is embedded in my brain. Sun's were TOUGH. Ainge, Marley, KJ, Barkley... We were grateful to get out of both of those series. Will never forget the kiss of death.

@NumunuBeats Год назад

A lot of people don’t know this but Danny Ainge was the only person named a High school All American in THREE SPORTS. 🏀 🏈 ⚾️

@jimmyvega287 Год назад

"I would advise him to be god fearing" is hilarious

@valeriazaragoza375 Год назад

No mention of Ainge becoming the boss in Boston and winning a title in 2008?

@prazcuray1388 Год назад

I still remember Horry hip checking Nash into the scorers table during the WCF, still pissed about that one.

@douglastovey2685 Год назад

Yes. That was one of the worst cheap shits ever. If Nash was my teammate I would have paid that one back.

@pol44r Год назад

this timing is incredible as i was literally discussing how horry always had his matchups fuming by doing nothing for 3 quarters and just sinking the dagger in the 4th 😂😂

@ronmangoba1159 Год назад

The moment you realized Danny Ainge inavertedly helped the Lakers twice, one when Horry was traded to give Kobe and Shaq some help and now as a GM of the Jazz, he gave Vanderbilt and Beasley also to the Lakers as part of a 3 team deal with the Wolves to give LeBron and AD some help also😅

@futureDreamer4 Год назад

Ainge knew not to throw the ball at The Dream😂😂😂

@Riles3152 Год назад

This is one of those rare beef's where both guys pretty much faired well in the aftermath. Horry went on to win 5 more championships and Ainge went on to become a successful GM that produced a title in 08. But that towel throw produced the greatest turn around for a player in NBA history.

@kennethjose7159 Год назад

Never forget what Horry did to Nash during that Spurs-Suns playoff game tilted the chances in favor of the Spurs

@selfishstockton6123 Год назад

@Big dic1 ok cuck

@hjluke4807 Год назад

First Point: I did not know about this beef. Second Point: I am so not surprised this beef exists😂 Great work as always Secret Base Team!🎉

@sandwich9666 Год назад

Makes you think did any of this come into play when Horry hip checked Nash(PHX) on the sideline.

@anthonydavis7846 Год назад

AINGE " I DID MEAN TO HIT HIM IN THE HEAD"😂😂😂

@rg1633 Год назад

I love these random beefs from back in the day, especially the older ones. It’s easy to judge players now in the social media era but if these players had access to this tech, they’d be just as crazy, if not more 😂

@alexluckenbaugh9300 Год назад

Nobody does the narration better than Clara. Give her an SB spinoff channel

@MrAdam921 9 месяцев назад

My first Secret base video, made me smile! Super well written, bravo 👏 👏

@therealnoodledog6660 Год назад

I just truly love the episodes with your voice. You're amazing at narration, and your speech cadence is really different then other people.

@chrisslavin4100 Год назад

This was so good!~ i died laughing at that towel in Danny's face 😂😂😂

@oN3xShOtxkilL Год назад

I’ll never forget Danny Ainge throwing the basketball at Mario Ellie’s face

@kmoustakas Год назад

You missed the part Ainge became the best executive, head of a church and the list goes on and on and on. Don't sell Danny boy short

@NJDDSNS Год назад

I saw the title and heard Clara's voice... then I clicked it and was made happy. :)

@GalacticCoast Год назад

As a lifelong Rockets fan that was in college aspiring to be a sports writer (four years later I would actually be a Rocket's beat writer for two seasons) during this beef and the two title runs, I remember every second of this beef like is was yesterday. Gotta love the quote from Hakeem. The inner peace, grace and wisdom Hakeem developed over time was so beautiful and impressive.

@Wgz945 Год назад

🤘🏿🤘🏿🤘🏿

@alexwatt2298 Год назад

I still feel there needs to be a Dorktown saga on the Suns. Also, Clara is the treat we don’t deserve.

@lenninreyes9552 Год назад

That Dorktown would be so hot.

@selfishstockton6123 Год назад

She has an insufferable annoying voice

@LaughingJokerProd Год назад

Damn, didn’t think Big Shot had THAT many rings.

@kevns2148 Год назад

Love these videos, my low-key favorite thing on youtube

@mediamannaman Год назад

Nice piece. Well-written and produced, and the voice talent was excellent!

@eddsworldlover Год назад

Now these are the types of beef history we need, its all fun and games doing modern ones and they should be done sometimes but for the most part we all know and remember them. Let's dig up the ones some people might've forgotten or didn't know, ik I didn't know this

@gilbertnicholas1582 Год назад

The youngsters wonder why we can't stop talking about the 90's The drama was REAL 😂 The beef nowadays is medium rare the beef back in the days was well done

@jjblake4941 Год назад

Only out for 12 minutes love finding new videos

@tweakingheavily Год назад

i like the addendum with the 350 degrees at 20 minutes, always love your videos clara

@cyrilabapo2257 Год назад

At 1:19, Tree bites man. What a headline.

@thepoisonouspotato3631 Год назад

As a HUGE Rockets fan, I love Robert Horry

@JamesJohnson-ip2by Год назад

She said 1987 western finals,it was eastern finals.

@theycallmedom4157 Год назад

Kareem has 6 1 in Milwaukee and 5 with the Lakers.

@bronsonbamnallen1633 Год назад

I grew up in this era of basketball and had never heard of this. Cant wait to watch this.

@dennisandrade7447 Год назад

1. The shirts in 1987 to Ainge were printed during the EASTERN conference finals, not Western. 2. Misspelled Dan ‘Majerle.’

@jamalwalker Год назад

They also got Kareem's ring count wrong definitely not their finest video but still good

@LearningNeverStopsEx Год назад

My favourite voice over narrator 🥹🥹🥹

@leoferwer1813 Год назад

"Marjle" was never an NBA player, but... great video. I love all your "beef" videos, specially the ones about "smaller" beefs. 10/10 despite "Marjle" ;)

@chi-town6305 Год назад

What you got against marjle

@slyFoxx365 Год назад

This was well done. Great story telling

@kevinoneill2170 Год назад

0:06 This photo of Ainge is hilarious - that was a choice (and I'm here for it!)

@pwnmasteh Год назад

Great vid and great work Clara.

@BUSTERPOSEYFAN111 Год назад

Ahhhh working saturdays are much less annoying knowing a juicy secret base video is gonna drop

@gavanmitchell9516 Год назад

Robert Horry threw a towel at Danny Ainge on live TV.. Will Smith threw an open-hand slap at Chris Rock on live TV. Can't make this up 😂

@sbrooks904 5 месяцев назад

what’s the relevance?

@darrendeedman4497 Год назад

Another great video. I was still a young kid in the 90s but I know Horry from his days with the Lakers. Ainge is a competitor, dirty maybe\sure, I was too young back then, but a great competitor nonetheless. I really appreciate your work Clara! ❤❤❤

@mongoslade277 Год назад

Ainge was a smaller version of Bill Laimbeer

@bangaamen501 Год назад

Horry vs Ainge Beef history Clara Morris on commentary Life is good

@NEONOIRERA Год назад

1995 game 7 kiss of death!

@kapowjam3462 Год назад

That is a lot of rings. Great episode as always. Good night and good game.

@jay2k480 Год назад

I’m usually a basketball head when it comes to a lot of things and players and everything I hear I known about but I had no idea Danny was in the mlb before the nba

@johnfarmakis8518 Год назад

He didn’t just throw. Towel in someone’s face as you say. He PUBLICLY threw a towel in Ainge’s face

@brownmartian8679 Год назад

1:46 Ainge also played on some fantastic Portland teams in the very early 90s. Clyde, Terry Porter, prime Jerome Kersey 👀, young Drazen Petrovic... Magic, Big Game James, and B got to bounce that troll on national TV one final time in the 91 Western Conf. Finals.

@Vegeta-YES Год назад

Barely see suns related videos, made me happy to see something along those lines

@xaviercardoza1230 Год назад

I absolutely enjoy Clara and the Beef history series.

@DS-nq1dg Год назад

I forgot he was even in Phoenix. Thanks for reminding me of that incident.

@EMAINIE Год назад

Awesome mini documentary.

@classicmatchup Год назад

Robert Horry vs Danny Ainge - One on One: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mupQA-H91_M.html

@cinnabar546 Год назад

Will always remember these 2 players. Both legends, both very competitive especially Ainge. You can see it in how he played and how he worked as Celtics GM. Most recently, in the interview between Steph Curry and MJ, they talked about Ainge talking alot of trash in the golf course LOL

@KIDTV-qe2dm Год назад

Robert Horrys game winner against the Kings in 02 WCF needs a rewind.

@KWCline91 Год назад

OH HELL YES! I WANTED THIS BEEF! THANKS!

@OrionOodama Год назад

The Rockets-Suns playoff faceoffs in 1994 and 1995 is one I binge-watched during the height of the pandemic. It was such a treat and refresher. Prior that, I used to read this rift back in the mid-90s through a weekly local sports mag. Great, enticing presentation as always. If only Danny Ainge pushed further and helped the Suns better, Robert Horry should "only" have six or five rings, and helped to have Charles Barkley a better chance of getting his either or both those years. Conversely, the "choking" of Phoenix turned Houston into clutch and unfazed by big leads, be it score or series (ask New York and Orlando).

@Mr_Jish Год назад

All this time and I was never aware of Danny Ainge absolutely smoking Mario Ellie in the kisser during that series, despite my knowledge of the series as a whole (or so I thought). You're the absolute best as always, Clara!

@kciN1221 Год назад

THANK YOU!! Been waiting for ANYTHING Robert Horry! The man is a Legend, an NBA finals hero with 7 Rings that doesn't get talked about enough. Thank you 🤜🤛

@piscator2813 Год назад

Dude needs to be in the HOF

@mongoslade277 Год назад

@@piscator2813🦬💩

@cadavanaugh Год назад

The world needs more beef

@burtonaka... Год назад

I remember that game...Ainge and Tree Rollins, who, after the scuffle, was standing there holding his finger...there was no doubt in anyone's mind what happened. Ainge was alot like Horry, incidentally: a good player who went to even better teams...thing that's funny is that by the time Ainge retired, he was already wearing a suit, like, instantaneously!

@clipobserver Год назад

Is there a rewinder episode about the NC State-Houston title game in 1983? There should be.

@superdopenova6231 Год назад

I'm a simple man, I see beef I click

@MetalGod999 Год назад

Hey there, Secret Base! Is there any way you guys can do a Beef History episode about Michael Jordan’s beef with Jerry Krause? I know you guys already did an episode about Scottie Pippen vs. the Chicago Bulls, but I think you could do a great episode about M.J.’s rivalry with Krause. Please keep me posted. Oh, and great job as always with this Robert Harry vs. Danny Ainge episode!

@ceebee312 Год назад

Could be why he’s a incompetent GM or selling the hornets team? Couldn’t keep his ego in check … always thought he could do the late Jerry Krause’s job or better .. not always the case

@hotkeyafl Год назад

You didn't mention that Ainge made the NBA finals with the Blazers in 92 as well.

@present2060 Год назад

You guys gotta make a rewinder on the 2022 world cup final

@Heem_B Год назад

Horry always says throwing that towel was the best moment of his career.

@Boss3Nate Год назад

Crazy that Danny Ainge is one of the best athletes this earth has seen.... nobody wants to talk about that tho bc he looks like.. well he looks like Danny Ainge. Hahaha. Pro baseball... pro basketball and honestly he probably would've went to the NFL as well. One of the top recruits out of Oregon and I'm pretty sure he's the only person to ever be a High school First Team All American in Football, Basketball and Baseball

@JitinMisra Год назад

Lmao “bc looks like Danny ange”

@Boss3Nate Год назад

@@JitinMisra hahahaha

@MrBaltch Год назад

I'm sure someone's already mentioned it, Kareem has 6 chips.

@tayloryoung8336 Год назад

Missed opportunity to mention the Horry hip check on Steve Nash, which cost the Suns one of their best title opportunities ever.

@jorged06 Год назад

I'm in love with your voice, Clara

@TheGreenMeanie Год назад

I can remember us in Houston were pissed when we traded Horry and Sam Cassell, but kind of excited when we got Charles Barkley. We won a ring for Clyde, and tried to win one for Charles.