The Role of Kimchi and H. Pylori in Stomach Cancer

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What explains the Achilles’ heel in certain Asian diets? Though most cases of stomach cancer are thought to be caused by H. pylori, most people with H. pylori don’t get cancer. Why?
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@oceanrocks Год назад

korea’s stomach cancer rates isn’t related to kimchi but their culture. they have the highest alcohol consumption rate, eat instant noodles daily, work long hours, barely get sleep. do a study on someone who eats kimchi everyday and never drinks alcohol or eats instant ramen and i assure you they won’t be facing the same stomach issues as koreans who live that tough lifestyle.

@pure_g9 Год назад

To people worried about fermented kimchi or fermented cabbage (Sauerkraut). The study shows that the picked foods are bad. Not the fermented. It only says that kimchi consumption (salt is used) is 5x higher in Japan. But the next study doesn't include kimchi but only picked foods and shows stomach irritation. Picked food uses soaking in high amounts of acids vs fermenting is leaving foods to natural reaction between food sugars and bacteria. No additives needed to achieve that. Seems like some people don't see the difference. Also. Almost all kimchi found in my supermarkets has a bunch of additives and preservatives added to it, even artificial colours and flavour enhancers. So perhaps the fact that it's made with with a little bit of salt isn't the actual problem but buying it in a very unhealthy form is the problem. Preserved foods use salt. true. But almost always that means a cocktail of other chemicals going with it.

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@jaysilverheals4445 9 месяцев назад

why did you keep saying picked??

@nevinkuser9892 Месяц назад

Picked or pickled?

@ericgouw Год назад

These videos are so underrated. I see so many not so important videos out there with millions of views... Maybe youtube restricts good quality information

@smilebot484 Год назад

people want to hear good news about what they're already doing or like, which explains why chiropractor (dr) berg and crew are so popular. actually look at dr mercola who is crazy popular and full of misleading and dangerous ideas. actually dr gregor has interviewed mercola in the past which is pretty shocking. nutrition facts is pretty amazing. i also recommend simon hill and especially plant chompers. be well.

@_josephbogdan_ Год назад

No advertising dollars. RU-vid is not there to educate people. You could have garbage content but if it attracts the zombie crowd. Hey let’s push it.

@larryc1616 Год назад

It's like our politics, the average layperson does not like facts from professionals, but conspiracies and alternative facts from sectarians/demagogues/authoritarians/scammers. Just look at all the conspiracies against covid, vaccines, Dr Fauci

@_josephbogdan_ Год назад

@@larryc1616 Correct but let’s call that lay person having well below average intelligence. When the brain is zombie like it it easily swayed with garbage coming from the sources you describe. What is shocking is that there are so many of them.

@badbadgilead2552 Год назад

its on the people imo

@ashtweth Год назад

This is where it gets too confusing, The video gives the impression that Kim Chi has a role in stomach cancer, its the opposite, you are talking pickled salted veggies NOT FERMENTED FOODS. A case-control study to assess the influence of kimchi on gastric cancer showed that kimchi significantly decreased the risk of gastric cancer. In a follow up study, they also found that gastric cancer risk could be decreased if those with H. pylori infection increase their intakes of antioxidant vitamins. PubMed study its called -Fermented kimchi rejuvenated precancerous atrophic gastritis via mitigating Helicobacter pylori-associated endoplasmic reticulum and oxidative stress. PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY you would put that in the title. REALLY ITS A REQUEST. HIGH SALTED FERMENTED FOODS (like Kim Chi not pickled) can also be high in salt IF THEY ARE MADE THAT WAY, you can use a whole head of cabbage with half a tepsoon of salt and make it yourself, GO HEAD AND PROVE ME WRONG, I HAVE DONE IT FOR YEARS. LESS SALT IS NEEDED TO MAKE KIMCHI BE GOOD. Dam that's a confusing title

@TammiT69 Год назад

As someone who has had an occurrence of H Pylori, I appreciate this information!

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@I_speak_truth 4 месяца назад

How did you rid it pal?

@MrEdBro Год назад

I'm confused, we're consistently told that fermented foods like kimchi and sauerkraut are some of the best foods for gut bacteria which are crucial to good health... This isn't spouted by "big kimchi", but renowned plant-based doctors. So can this food be both good and bad for you?

@cyberfunk3793 Год назад

It's nutrition science again: nobody really knows anything.

@rezlogan4787 Год назад

Moderation in all things.

@AH-cy4md Год назад

It’s the high quantity consumed that’s problematic

@MrEdBro Год назад

A guest on Rich Roll recently said you should have 5 servings of fermented foods a day 🤷

@Albopepper Год назад

"Fermentation" is caused by bacteria. "Pickling" preserves food by creating an inhospitable environment for micro-organisms. Low pH from acids like vinegar will work. And highly saline environments will also inhibit spoilage. This video doesn't propose that fermentation is bad. It's the salting of those foods which is bad. And nobody has ever been claiming that high salt diets are somehow "good" for you.

@PH-xw1ri Год назад

You should have 10 million subscribers

@spandel100 Год назад

People enjoy life with their collective heads buried in the sand.I realised this a long time ago when trying to help people.

@photomaker4502 Год назад

It can’t just be the salt. If that were the case we ALL would have stomach cancer. And actually, the standard American diet has more sodium than traditional Japanese/Korean diet. Also, what about China? China is a leader when it comes to salt intake. Per Chinese take in about 12 grams of salt per serving and has been for the past 4 decades....and maybe even more now since western foods have infeltrated their country. South Korea also take in more alcohol beverages than any nation. Which too much alcohol can increase a person's chance of developing pancreatic or stomach cancer. There’s more to this cancer increase than simply too much salt.

@the.marinator 10 месяцев назад

I think you're right. It's probably the combination of foods in the Korean diet. ie: variety of salty banchans, excessive alcohol and a ton of instant noodles (oily and salty).

@shk2626 Год назад

As a Korean, we have a lot of kimchi per day, maybe more than in one serving. In addition to it, we have variety of pickled dishes. I think the problem is not consuming kimchi itself but consuming so much salt. There are so many studies showing that Kimchi is very good for health. So moderate consumption would be recommended. It’d be more great if the video should have clearified it.

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@maiqueashworth Год назад

I had enough of cliff hangers with batman in the 1970's 😂 How about a study on the number of people admitted to psychiatric wards as a consequence of the stress of waiting for the resolution of the cliff hanger?

@tnijoo5109 Год назад

😭😂LOL. I feel the same way.

@laurieparis2203 Год назад

Not to forget spinning in Limbo, unable to find the follow up video!

@hamrthroer Год назад

😂

@vietnamd0820 Год назад

When I was a kid, 1970’s Batman cliffhangers used to hook me into the next episode 😂

@We_God Год назад

He hasn't made part two yet, patience grasshoppers.

@AndrewPawley11 Год назад

Excellent information once again. Its no wonder this channel is growing so fast.

@rogerc23 Год назад

Is it?

@AndrewPawley11 Год назад

@@rogerc23 Oh yes! Your employer can tell you ... thousands of new subscribers each week. Unstoppable progress as more and more people see through the meat industry's lies.

@rogerc23 Год назад

@@AndrewPawley11 interesting as I didn’t notice. Been following for over 5 years. FYI processed foods, sugars and chemicals are much worse for our health than meat.

@AndrewPawley11 Год назад

@@rogerc23 "FYI"? The late 80's called and want their acronym back.

@rogerc23 Год назад

@@AndrewPawley11 sure thing he/him. You can replace it with this acronym GFYS.

@elibecker7217 Год назад

Thank you for the info

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@michaelkane7021 Год назад

Would really love to know the how "high", 'moderately high", "moderate" and "low" salt consumption is defined in md/day.

@Julottt Год назад

Low is below 1500 mg of sodium a day, it is safe amount for most people.

@michaelkane7021 Год назад

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@deconcoder Год назад

Doesn't matter because Dr. G says in many places the negative effects of salt are from excess amounts, but then tells everyone to reduce it.

@Julottt Год назад

@@deconcoder just like sugar but the less the better.

@michaelkane7021 Год назад

@@deconcoder it does matter being vague isn't helpful

@danadunham1660 Год назад

Nice to hear about stomach cancer, as a carrier of a pathogenic mutation of the CDH1 gene, and stomach cancer patient who has undergone total gastrectomy. Dr. Gregor, would love to hear about nutrition for us know living without a stomach. Doing my best to incorporate WFPB lifestyle but find it a bit of a challenge.

@AB-ee5tb Год назад

I’m so sorry that happened to you

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@ajm3821 Год назад

Excellent

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@reimiyasaka Год назад

The researcher in Vancouver was my GI specialist. He told me about the study. Cool guy. I had a stomach ulcer for much of my life, until I found this channel. Still can't help occasionally buying a bucket of kimchi though 😁

@justcarineinparis Год назад

If you make it yourself you can chose the amount (and quality) of salt you use…

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@fruitkid4759 Год назад

@@justcarineinparis yes! And if the rest of your diet is salt free, it's not as bad too

@Salamander407 Год назад

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@jonleon9132 Год назад

This hurt my soul because kimchi is such a staple in my diet

@Albopepper Год назад

Then you should use a low sodium kimchi. If you can't find it at a store, perhaps you can find a recipe to make it yourself. The salt is the real issue, not the kimchi per se.

@Koala-jj7go 2 месяца назад

Vaccines are OK stay away from kimchi

@jj-dt9xx Год назад

Isn’t cancer in East Asians also related to alcohol consumption since alcohol is a carcinogen and the majority of EAs lack an enzyme that breaks down acetaldehyde (which causes the “red flush” after drinking)

@SteveSilverActor Год назад

There is high alcohol consumption per capita in Korea, but less so in Japan

@stringfellowbalk2654 Год назад

High sodium intake in conjunction with alcohol may be worth a study. The salt may weaken the protective lining of the stomach making it more susceptible to H. Pylori infection. Increasing cancer risk. I had an infection a while back. Severe stomach pain. Gastric bleeding. Black stool. Regularly ate kimche. Do remember enjoying beers occasionally. Actually went to a med clinic for help and I hate going to the doctor. They thought I might have had an intestinal blockage. Hogwash. I knew they were going to send me to get a battery of tests. Said forget it. Treated the infection naturally. Haven't had alcohol for quite a while now. Still eat kimche now and then. Perfectly fine.

@joanyoon4672 Год назад

I appreciate your research. I am a healthy foodie vegetarian, and couldn't figure out why I was having digestive issue. I stopped eating Kimchee, and I feel a lot better. Kimchee has a high sodium content and very spicy. It isn't really all that healthy though some people do benefit from it. I wasn't healthy as a child probably from raised with Asian diet consumption though some Asian foods are healthy. It appears that each person is different, and we have to listen to our body.

@QUINTUSMAXIMUS Год назад

I do like kimchi, but I avoid it because it has too much salt, spice. I live in South Korea, but can't eat a lot of the dishes. I just eat it once in a while.

@jss.2020 Год назад

@@QUINTUSMAXIMUS good

@tatianagolitsyn675 5 месяцев назад

Very interesting! I have h pylori, but no symptoms ( although I had IBS, and now adrenal fatigue). I recently bought some kimchi powder in a bid to get rid of chronic sinusitis which may be a factor in my adrenal fatigue. But the kimchi powder causes me terrible stomach cramps and bloating.

@Kate-zl3zl Год назад

Same question as Edward Brooks.

@usheffi Год назад

Thank you doctor for referring to this topic.

@laurieparis2203 Год назад

Please don't take my kimchi and olives away! 💔

@Jamesnebula Год назад

Quick tip, if you soak kimchi and sauerkraut in water, the osmotic effect pulls the salt out, you might have a few less probiotics but they'll be plenty in the less salty vegetables. This works the same with salted pitted olives.

@dandanndannnnnn Год назад

Soak it in water?

@Jamesnebula Год назад

@@dandanndannnnnn Yes sorry plain water, one of my favourites is doing this to olives, if you want to you can take out almost all the salt. HR of olives is about 55 pence. 1/3 of a jar is a really nice snak

@dandanndannnnnn Год назад

@@Jamesnebula I do it with olives, but I don't think I can soak my kimchi. That would be a waste of money

@Jamesnebula Год назад

@@dandanndannnnnn good point.i never had it.

@larryc1616 Год назад

That's like soaking pizza in water before eating ✋🤭

@Libellenmaedchen Год назад

Is there any fermented food I can safely eat with histamine intolerance / MCAS?

Год назад

How is it different from other fermented things?

@aumnamashivaya4 Год назад

Gosh just about to head to rake in pickles and watching this,THANK GODDDDDDDD

@cycletrade2276 Год назад

So, would you ever recommend fermented veggies?

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@garyharnish2395 Год назад

The Japanese business men as well as Korean have steadily used more alcohol over the years. Especially at business meetings

@SteveSilverActor Год назад

The data I've read indicates that alcohol consumption per capita is much higher in Korea than in Japan.

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@conscience-commenter Год назад

It can possibly be correlated that acidic foods further aggravate the impaired stomach lining affected with either H.pylori or ulcers that metastasize into cancer. When you have an ulcer they tell you not to eat acidic foods and prescribe antacid drugs and medication to reduce stomach acid.

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@dawnkeckley7502 Год назад

So stomach cancers would be high in the US because of all the salt in fast food, soda, and chips?

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@CanadianMang 2 месяца назад

Could also be correlated to the extreme working schedules and demands of life in these countries like Korea and Japan.

@justinhale5693 Год назад

Now I want to know about IBS and salt. Does salt trigger worse symptoms?

@Julottt Год назад

No but high amount of salt beyond 1500-2000mg of sodium daily increases inflammation.

@wos9804 Год назад

Maybe more important common factor in korea and japan is hot salty soup in typical meal. It is very large source of salt in typical korean/japanese diet

@deconcoder Год назад

It was covered: miso, does not have the negative effects, and that was covered in another G vid.

@Julottt Год назад

yes Studies showed japanese consume on average a much higher amount of salt than US and europe, soy sauce, miso, some fermented foods and salted seaweeds they consume contains an extremely high amount of salt.

@Native2Earth 5 месяцев назад

It’s raw fish and seafood. Countries that consume it have the most stomach cancers IE Japan /korea

@sundin2799 4 месяца назад

What about factoring in alcohol consumption ?

@hugomarquez3189 Месяц назад

I think it’s important to establish the dosage, how much kimchi does it take?

@davidabarak Год назад

It's possible I misunderstood something, but I know previous videos have outlined the benefits of vinegar consumption. So with that, is it pickled vegetables that include _heavy_ _salt_ that are the problem, meaning that vinegar-only pickling is okay?

@SteveSilverActor Год назад

That's my understanding.

@Native2Earth 5 месяцев назад

He’s just wrong Japan eats the highest amounts of raw fish/ seafood in the world where we literally dump toxic waste. And there’s fermented kimchee and pickled kimchee one has probiotics the other doesn’t.

@animaginaryboy_ Год назад

All this talk about fermented foods but no one ever mentions natto. It would be great to hear the science on it.

@laurieparis2203 Год назад

Natto is a fermented food, but it's different in an important way. Natto's not highly salted, which seems to be the problem with both kimchi and pickles.

@SteveSilverActor Год назад

@@laurieparis2203 Many Japanese put a sauce on natto that contains salt. I don't know if this has the same carcinogenic effect.

@profd65 Год назад

Heard of something called "Google"?

@laurieparis2203 Год назад

@@SteveSilverActor hi Steve. You're right, natto can come with tiny flavor packets, one a salty soy sauce the other a hot mustard. Not all packages contain them. Soy sauce is actually a fermented soy product, as is miso and tempeh. Both miso and soysauce have a LOT of sodium. But somehow that's not associated with stomach cancer. Possibly bc the amounts used are relatively small, and the protective aspect of soy's isoflavones? 🌱

@SteveSilverActor Год назад

@@laurieparis2203 Yes, I think that's what Dr. Gregor said about miso -- the soy has a protective effect.

@commenter6472 Год назад

huh, I wonder if there's any way to eradicate it naturally through diet

@sevenandthelittlestmew 8 месяцев назад

Has anyone done any studies of Korean Americans or Japanese Americans to determine whether there is any increase in stomach cancer in these communities? Have studies been done in other western countries with Korean/Japanese diaspora where kimchi and tsukemono is also consumed? Edit: also, has anyone discussed lack of iodine or iodine deficiency in these diets? I think I read somewhere that iodized foods can help reduce instances of stomach cancer, but I’m no expert! I’m just some lady who recently had stomach surgery for a GIST and is wondering if there are connections or ways to reduce my risk factors as someone who makes/eats kimchi and other pickled vegetables on a regular basis.

@kamalaji1008 Год назад

I use chickpea miso in all my soups and salad dressings. Not soy miso. Sounds like this could be a problem.

@terryelizabeth2841 Год назад

In recent times I added kimchi to my diet because I was looking for the health benefits that were associated with pickled foods like sauerkraut and kimchi. I only eat a small amount a few times a week. I guess I’m going to have to look into this carefully.

@ashtweth Год назад

kimchi is NOT a pickled food , ITS FERMENTED, and you only need half a teaspoon of salt to make a whole batch, I have don't it for years

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@shabieshabie Год назад

I thought fermented and/or pickled foods were super healthy and health promoting.

@RealJonzuk Год назад

just kimchi and kombucha i would avoid

@shabieshabie Год назад

@@RealJonzuk what about souerkraut? So sad as I just learned to make a decent kimchi 😢

@Julottt Год назад

No, never, fresh whole plant food is really healthy. it is salt and mycotoxins in fermented foods so it is the same, it have never been healthy. another video on this topic: "How Sauerkraut Gives You Stomach Cancer" from Andrew Perlot.

@cyberfunk3793 Год назад

@@Julottt I'm not sure it's that simple. A lot of sources seem to say sauerkraut is healthy for the gut at least. Are there more stomach cancer in Germany where I assume they eat much sauerkraut? Perhaps it's the salt that is the issue, while otherwise sauerkraut would be healthy, hard to know when on so manyy nutrition topics there is evidence both ways. "Sauerkraut is a nutritious fermented vegetable food, highly appreciated for its particular sensory characteristics. There is strong scientific evidence that sauerkraut provides numerous health benefits, such as antioxidant and anticarcinogenic effects, but also by attenuating inflammation and DNA damage."

@Albopepper Год назад

Do not conflate "fermented" and "pickled". Two totally different mechanisms. It's possible for something to be both pickled AND fermented, but not necessarily. The focus of this discussion is on salt content. Your fermented and/or pickled foods need to be low in sodium. For example, there are refrigerator pickle recipes that rely on vinegar and sugar to inhibit spoilage. But the sodium is rather low. You can also make low sodium kimchi.

@christianmlj1767 Год назад

Could the micro biome differences between those who eat kimchi/fermented foods (and those who don’t) afford the kimchi-eaters some protection against gastric cancer? It may be why the 3-day study presented at the end of the video yielded such an outcome. Maybe if you’re not used to eating kimchi, it’s inflammatory, but over time your micro biome/body can adapt to daily intake?

@MichaelGGarry Год назад

Gastric cancer is cancer of the stomach. The micro-biome is in the large intestine, ie after the stomach. So I don't see how it could offer any protection.

@dionysusnow Год назад

@@MichaelGGarry The Stomach has it's own microbiome.

@MichaelGGarry Год назад

@@dionysusnow Its tiny in regard to the large intestine, has much more limited types and many of them are transient from the mouth. When people are talking about the microbiome and especially that which is shown to be helped by kimchi etc they are talking about the large intestine.

@wildrice8199 Год назад

@@MichaelGGarry Using that logic, the microbiome couldn't have any effect on cancer anywhere in the body except intestinal. I think nutrition is a bit more complex than that. The way the microbiome interacts with the food we eat has effects all over the body.

@Junebugreen Год назад

I think this is mostly about fermented foods. Would vinegar be implicated with this too? Maybe just straight vinegars out of the bottle.

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@Jamesnebula Год назад

Interestingly about 3 years ago I was diagnosed with h pylori. I was too nervous to take the medication. Anyway about 6 months ago I got retested taking a stool sample and was found to be negative. I had l no treatment I was so confused, I asked for another second test recently and that also came back negative. Unless my high fibre diet concealed a positive. There is no trace of h.pylory antibodies in my stool. I have not been on any medication that might mask or interfere with the result. I'm still having gastric symptoms of unknown cause, I've had a camera in stomach and they haven't seen any ulcer. But they forgot to take a biopsy or rather they did but didn't get it tested. Just my two cents

@cyberfunk3793 Год назад

Cut out all dairy and gluten for a month and see if it helps, celiac disease and lactose intolerance are some of the possible causes of stomach problems I know of.

@nabila4395 Год назад

so you add more fibre to your diet?

@MachineGod69 Год назад

Soooo…..what do you think the reason for the negative was.?

@christinefournier685 Год назад

Maybe you will learn what you did to heal in the next video.

@Jamesnebula Год назад

@@MachineGod69 I don't know, I do eat a lot of probiotic food kefir, I even ferment boiled lentils with kefir bacteria. Whole food diet. I have ulcerative colitis so I can't really eat unhealthily. I'm almost wondering about enquiring for a breath test. How can it just go away. The only variable Yes I have a high fibre diet maybe the DNA markers got absorbed into the fibre, you never know.

@brielli6393 Год назад

For those who don't know, kimchi is fermented, not pickled. Salt is often added to the cabbage to remove water before fermenting it, but salt is not essential to the fermenting process. Also, East Asian people tend to carry a more aggressive strain of H.pylori. It's genetically different than the strain carried by Westerners. Children of immigrants tend to become infected with the less virulent strain . It's an important factor in explaining why East Asians have more stomach cancer, though the amount of pickled, salted, and smoked food is also hugely important; they also tend to be more popular in East Asian cuisine. The variable salt content in kimchi isn't great, but the fermentation itself is protective against stomach cancer. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5470446/ I've read articles that tout carcinogenic and anticancer effects of kimchi. My guess is that the ambivalence has to do with the amount of salt used and whether fermented fish paste (an optional add-in) is used in the recipe. I would love to see a more in depth look at kimchi from you, Dr. Gregor. Or at least a look at gochujang, which is the fermented red pepper paste found in nearly half of the most popular Korean dishes.

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@NataschaO Год назад

So, umeboshi is bad for you? Or is it okay to have it a few times a month?

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@ChrisHobson916 Год назад

The conclusion to this video was very unclear. I’d like your channel 10x if you just did one 10-15 minute video on this instead of two six minute videos.

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@albeb87 Год назад

What! I started to ferment vegetables for health benefits… is he talking about all the fermented vegetables like saukercraut?

@Albopepper Год назад

How much sodium are you using? It's all about the sodium content and has nothing to do with whether it's fermented or not.

@LiamGutierrez Год назад

Use potassium chloride

@albeb87 Год назад

@@Albopepper around 2.5 or 3 % salt

@UHaulShorts Год назад

How 2 *can* or *air tight jar* fermented vejjayz?

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@jtmfam90 Год назад

So fermented vegetables ARE safe as long as the daily intake of salt is safe (

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@mixedicez Год назад

One of my theories is that the acid combined with salt is increasing the consumption of salt to a dangerous level. Could it be the acidity of the fermented/pickled vegetables that is masking the saltiness and enhancing the flavour of these highly salty/acidic foods?

@mitchkelly Год назад

I notice that in the study where they did stomach biopsies “vinegared gherkins” had the same damaging effects. I’ve seen Dr Greger’s videos on vinegar, curious to see his comments.

@jameslay6505 Год назад

My take from that is it was the high salt content that was in common between the two foods. I agree, it wasn't entirely clear.

@machematix Год назад

I'd like to see fermented gherkins vs vinegar gherkins. In NZ we can't get "kosher pickles" so they're all the inferior vinegar type.

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@dillybrown Год назад

I was in absolute awe watching this. I did not know where the science was taking us at first but NOOOO, Kimchi is god tier man come on

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@artvandelay8830 Год назад

So is sauerkraut bad as well? I eat it daily.

@Albopepper Год назад

What's the sodium content? This video isn't actually about fermented foods. It's about salted foods.

@heathergrahame9647 Год назад

This is naughty of me, I know, but I want to say - yes, sauerkraut is obviously bad for you because it's turned you into George Costanza!

@artvandelay8830 Год назад

1.1 grams per 100 grams. Thanks for answering!

@Albopepper Год назад

@@artvandelay8830 If 100 grams of sauerkraut contains 1.1g of sodium, then that's 1,100 mg. That's very high. Two servings would max out your entire daily recommended upper limit. Ideally, 1,500 mg of sodium is a good maximum to shoot for.

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@@Albopepper Thanks!

@rebk5331 Год назад

What about saurcraut?

@veredictum4503 4 месяца назад

What!! Kimchi is promoted elsewhere as "full of probiotics", more so than sauekraut because it has more ingredients (and so more bacteria).

@Joseph1NJ Год назад

I believe the risk the risk of H Pylori increases with those taking PPIs. And since H Pylori increases the risk of stomach cancer, does taking PPIs increase stomach cancer risk? If so, the public hasn't been so warned.

@rachelk2457 Год назад

Europeans eat a lot of sauerkraut and do not have high stomach cancer rates. Explain that. This study does not take into there are two different h pylori bacteria, cancer negative and cancer positive.

@apriljohnson6191 Год назад

What about sauerkraut? Does this contain a similar risk?

@SteveSilverActor Год назад

I would think it depends on if it has salt or not.

@apriljohnson6191 Год назад

@@SteveSilverActor Is it the salt, vinegar or combination? I believe both are in Sauerkraut. This is sad, because fermented foods are supposed to be a source of K2.

@SteveSilverActor Год назад

@@apriljohnson6191 I think Sauerkraut is usually not made with vinegar, but just salt.

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@Kurostyle21 Год назад

Would Sauerkraut also significantly raise the risk of stomach cancer since it's a pickled, fermented product?

@Alex-rb5fs Год назад

And also cabbage!

@SteveSilverActor Год назад

It seems the factor is the salt along with the pickled product, if I understand the study correctly.

@user-bv7mk8id5t Год назад

Yeah, it seems a lot of non western foods gets blamed a lot lately. Western bland foods not so much 🥵. I would say sauerkraut as well because of the salt. Only he did say not in India, yet some foods from India can be very salty, only overcooked, so for me this is confusing….

@toddglee1 Год назад

Every food on the planet has pros and cons for our health.

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@panchui4 Год назад

so. fermented are good or bad???

@Albopepper Год назад

This issue is not about fermented. The issue is about high sodium. High sodium = BAD.

@nomad4894 3 месяца назад

an error in statistics. In Korea, medical insurance is developed, so many gastric cancer tests are conducted. So you can find a lot of stomach cancer earlier

@masher1042 Год назад

Also most kimchi from supermarket have salted or fermented anchovies and salted baby shrimps in the ingredients. I only go for the vegan version.

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@SteveSilverActor Год назад

Interesting video, but leaves more questions than answers. I don't feel the cliffhangers are helpful.

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@maremacd Год назад

Mediterranean folks eat brined foods such as olives and feta. Why aren’t they afflicted?

@michaprzezm3787 Год назад

Dr. Greger when new book?;) greetings from Poland

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@nmccutcheon2243 Год назад

🥹. I adore my kimchi.

@usheffi Год назад

Is sauerkraut would act differently than kimchi?

@francesnance9110 Год назад

And I just got into the 'healthy' practice of fermenting veggies to feed my good gut bacteria. Now what? Where is the line between 'healthy' and 'not healthy'? Seriously, specific guidelines would be useful.

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@MyJam Год назад

So no more kimchi? I have a tablespoon of it every day for my gut health. Ironic. I’m so sad now. :(

@eatplantsloveanimals Год назад

I think a tablespoon is fine. The people in the studies (Koreans) eat way more than that at EACH meal. I'm Korean so I know. You could also rotate with some other fermented foods if you're really concerned.

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@jss.2020 Год назад

@@eatplantsloveanimals yea it seems like the study he showed had them consume an excess amount (30oz over a 3 day period) You don't need that much Kimchi per day (1-2 Tablespoons per day is enough)

@Julie-jl2kk 11 месяцев назад

what about cooked kimchi?

@jaym9846 7 месяцев назад

How do I trade in my American H Pylori for Afrikan ones?

@photomaker4502 Год назад

You know what can introduce H. pylori? A vegan diet. The vegan diet or a diet that consists of predominantly vegetables (Japan, South Korea, most of south east Asia consume 60-80% vegetables in their diet) reduce the acidity of the stomach, which can invite H. pylori infection. Salt helps to increase acidity in the stomach which is a huge benefit to our overall health.

@don.brasco Год назад

It sounds more like they are talking about pickled vegetables in this study and not fermentation. Kimchi doesn’t use vinegar or soy sauce, that would a pickling, fermentation is salt and water or juice from the vegetable itself.

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@Milinta Год назад

what about kombucha?

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@spandel100 Год назад

Just try not to drink around or during meals.I know this seems unconnected but the science is there.

@christinefournier685 Год назад

Can you give the reference of the scientific paper you’re talking about ? Thanks.

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@@christinefournier685 Its not a scientific paper Christine.I was watching a lecture.I can send you the link if want.Are you on Facebook?

@MrMartinBigger Год назад

Can you review eating Insects/ crickets

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@janetbrooks8505 6 месяцев назад

Moderation is key.. people have been using salt as a preservative for hundreds of years if not thousands of years. Well.. maybe our Western diet isn’t the worst diet after all. I will continue to eat miso, pickled ginger and kimchi, I’ve been eating it moderately for years and my digestive system is healthy. I also eat Natto, I’ve noticed that when shopping in stores that carry these foods, most have way too many ingredients for a simple fermented food, including msg. I’m getting tired of dietary scares, I think moderation is key and for the majority, Kimchi isn’t going to hurt us.

@eatplantsloveanimals Год назад

What about people who consume a lot of sauerkraut? Or pickled fish? Do they have high rates of stomach cancer? If not, why not? Seems weird that kimchi alone would cause stomach cancer when there are many salted fermented foods consumed by many cultures around the world.

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@princesstwobuns8506 Год назад

Blueberry juice!

@cedb3360 Год назад

What about the soy sauce and the ramen noodle of all sort that are very very high in sodium? O they did not put that to the test I suppose. Imma keep eating kimchi for its other benefits

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What is the software to animate highlighting?

@heathergrahame9647 Год назад

Does that mean H. Pylori is not carcinogenic and salt is?

@mcfaddenhall2896 Год назад

The follow-up video better be about how kimchi is safe if you control another factor in your diet.

@smilebot484 Год назад

avoid it. actually salt ferments in general are deleterious to human health. all that salt will set you up for a ton of problems as you get older. be well.

@Albopepper Год назад

Use a low sodium kimchi. If the kimchi has super high sodium content, then no. It's not safe. Not safe for high levels of consumption.

@caroline61804 Год назад

what abt saurkraut then? perhaps its the msg or soy sauce? not the salted pickles

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@samiryan214 Год назад

It's at 3:54 .

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@afoxnamedmulder Год назад

Is it perhaps not salt, but maybe biogenic amines?

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@masimons Год назад

Guess should pitch the kimchi in the fridge, just occasionally buy it.

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@Julie-jl2kk 11 месяцев назад

isnt kimchi good for you in many other ways though?

@LooseNut099 Год назад

I thought fermented foods such as pickles and sauerkraut were good for the microbiome?

@chiyerano Год назад

Fermented foods are good for the microbiome, it's the highly salted foods that are the problem.

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@live.ahimsa.govegan Год назад

Kimchi!!!! 😭

@user-bv7mk8id5t Год назад

Idk I find it funny how foods that are not westernized are always blamed. But aside that, what about the bbq foods?

@healthlovevegan8251 Год назад

what do you mean by that? isnt western diet cultures always blamed for health issues. and we all know it

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@Shopgirl2000 Год назад

Is sauerkraut pickled?

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@judahbrutus 4 месяца назад

Other doctors say that kimchi is good for gut and h pylori, who do you trust?

@przytulanka1979 Год назад

Stress, overworking.

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@greg6509 Год назад

Damn it just tell me if I'm safe eating my dill pickles or not! Cliff hanger this 😤