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The Romance of Reality | A Unifying Theory of Everything 

Carlos Farias
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Bobby Azarian is a cognitive neuroscientist, journalist, and author of The Romance of Reality: How the Universe Organizes Itself to Create Life, Consciousness, and Cosmic Complexity. Bobby's Unifying Theory of Reality (UTOR) includes an Evolutionary Epistemology-Universal Darwinism-Universal Bayesianism framework.
❶ Origin Story
3:40 The Romance of Reality seal of approval
7:45 If you could give your 18-year-old self one piece of advice?
9:20 Scientists converging on this cosmic narrative...
11:40 "Is the universe pro-life?" Quartz article & Sean Carroll tweet (seed for the book)
13:40 Michael Shermer's blurb on the cover
14:39 Life's intrinsic purpose as a game...
16:24 Tracing the failure of reductionism / premodern, modern periods
22:10 Postmodern reaction
❶ Cosmological Evolution
23:55 Error correction process, life as information processing
26:13 Teilhard de Chardin, science vs religion
29:25 The Romance of Reality's central argument
36:35 Process implies the universe is designed (fine tuning problem)
40:30 Simulation theory & intelligent creator theory are the same
41:42 Multiverse or one universe? Occam's razor...
❶ Universal Bayesianism
44:37 Karl Friston's free energy principle (systems) & Jeremy England's dissipative adaptation (thermodynamics)
50:15 Energetic costs of particles self-organizing (entropy byproduct)
54:15 Adaptation = Statistical Correlation = Mutual Information = Model Optimization = Knowledge Creation
❷ Integrating into Daily Life
55:57 Free energy principle as reducing model error
1:02:27 Be curious, minimize ignorance
1:04:00 Example: Origin of the coronavirus
1:06:27 Teleological stance... Omega Point
1:13:09 What are the activities or exercises?
1:14:20 Adaptive power of spirituality?
1:16:50 Free will is real
❸ Cosmic Transcendence
1:18:42 The ultimate question... why?
1:25:18 Cosmological natural selection... was our universe created/simulated?
1:28:07 Our evolutionary trajectory has a moral arc
1:32:25 10 year prediction
1:33:07 Hopf fibration on the cover? Eric Weinstein's Geometric Unity
🚩Links to Bobby Azarian 🚩
Buy the book! www.amazon.com/Romance-Realit...
roadtoomega.substack.com/
www.psychologytoday.com/us/bl...
/ @roadtoomega
🚾 Works Cited
Frank Force (2021) dribbble.com/shots/15044136-L...
Quanta Magazine (2020) www.quantamagazine.org/what-i...
Book cover artist: Francesca Acacia francescaacacia
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@ajsindri2
@ajsindri2 Год назад
whoa :0 I've never heard of Bobby Azarian but this was fascinating. Just bought romance of reality on audible. You're killin' it with these interviews, thank you so much!
@Carlos.Explains
@Carlos.Explains Год назад
Woohoo! Thank you Lao! I'm sure you're gonna love it. 😀
@DharmaScienceRadio
@DharmaScienceRadio Год назад
"The Great Attractor At The End Of Time" from the late and great Terrence McKenna rings a bell here. We're getting closer....
@Carlos.Explains
@Carlos.Explains Год назад
McKenna is getting referenced in an upcoming video!
@TRFAD
@TRFAD Год назад
Man I spent a long time imagining what that idea could mean. The artifact at the end of time. For me it brought me to the idea that if time does not exist in the way we experience it. Any structure out side of this existence could already exist or has existed forever? If that idea/entity/object/artifact is packed full of data or information or even conscious. Maybe a singularity? Maybe it is comprised of all possible realities all possible structures that it can organize into. A seed? Figuratively. What would that be? Assuming that there IS a beginning and end to whatever this reality is... Mckenna was insanely interesting even if his ideas sometimes fall into the "cooky" but the point is that he encouraged thinking outside of so called "facts and objective ideas". Sure it's good to have a foundation but, have the freedom to take note of the odd occurrences that don't fit into the current model(s) and see where that leads and why.
@Carlos.Explains
@Carlos.Explains Год назад
❶ Origin Story 3:40 The Romance of Reality seal of approval 7:45 If you could give your 18-year-old self one piece of advice? 9:20 Scientists converging on this cosmic narrative... 11:40 "Is the universe pro-life?" Quartz article & Sean Carroll quote (seed for the book) 13:40 Michael Shermer's blurb on the cover 14:39 Life's intrinsic purpose as a game... 16:24 Tracing the failure of reductionism / premodern, modern periods 22:10 Postmodern reaction ❶ Cosmological Evolution 23:55 Error correction process, life as information processing 26:13 Teilhard de Chardin, science vs religion 29:25 The Romance of Reality's *central argument* 36:35 Process implies the universe is designed (fine tuning problem) 40:30 Simulation theory & intelligent creator theory are the same 41:42 Multiverse or one universe? Occam's razor... ❶ Universal Bayesianism 44:37 Karl Friston's free energy principle (systems) & Jeremy England's dissipative adaptation (thermodynamics) 50:15 Energetic costs of particles self-organizing (entropy byproduct) 54:15 Adaptation = Statistical Correlation = Mutual Information = Model Optimization = Knowledge Creation ❷ Integrating into Daily Life 55:57 Free energy principle as reducing model error 1:02:27 Be curious, minimize ignorance 1:04:00 Example: Origin of the coronavirus 1:06:27 Teleological stance... Omega Point 1:13:09 What are the activities or exercises? 1:14:20 Adaptive power of spirituality? 1:16:50 Free will is real ❸ Cosmic Transcendence 1:18:42 The ultimate question... why? 1:25:18 Cosmological natural selection... was our universe created/simulated? 1:28:07 Our evolutionary trajectory has a moral arc 1:32:25 10 year prediction 1:33:07 Hopf fibration on the cover? Eric Weinstein's Geometric Unity
@polymathpark
@polymathpark Год назад
Wow, so much of what I'm hearing here aligns with my own work on what I call universal embodiment. The teleology to be derived from viewing oneself as a vessel for universal introspection and perception is unbounded, and yields better moral behavior to boot. I'm working on how to apply cognitive science to this perception/awakening system of thinking while acknowledging the role of causality on my own channel and blog site, I'd love to have the both of you on to discuss this in more detail sometime! Great talk.
@solomonfinite
@solomonfinite Год назад
This interview helped me crystallize thoughts I barely was aware I was having
@sunnyinvladivostok
@sunnyinvladivostok 11 месяцев назад
what a great thing to listen to!! Carlos, I admire your enthusiasm, interest, preparation, and understanding of the discussion; it blows my mind how much you know in the topics of your conversation. Bobby, sincere thanks for sharing your insight & ideas on the in such a universally understandable way. I especially loved how you applied it to living, will be giving that at least a re-watch.
@Carlos.Explains
@Carlos.Explains 11 месяцев назад
Thank you, that's very kind! Much love to you in Pisco - I visited back in 2019, a wonderful place.😀
@mootytootyfrooty
@mootytootyfrooty Год назад
Love this guy going so hard on the universal entropic evolution idea. I was introduced to the concept by Rod Swenson, former Plasmatics hardcore punk band member and also a Yale grad who I think still teaches at University of Connecticut. He wrote a beautiful short paper called "Thermodynamics, Evolution, and Behavior" among others which similarly concludes that the universe must be "active and end-directed" i.e. things have true goals even if it's as simple as a spontaneous structure created while dissipating energy, e.g. a vortex or some charged medium. He explains it in pretty pure thermodynamics terms, so simple it's hard not to be skeptical of the proofs haha but same applies no matter what form of energy you're working with. This is also why Shannon's theories are god tier, every medium or combination of mediums has structure and can be ordered really thanks to conservation of energy and least action being a strict grounding paradigm of literally everything, and living things are innately able to create their own machines for awareness and usage of these mediums and structures for any forces really, e.g. birds with magnetometers in their brains for long distance migration, fish using smell to find their spawning river, our basic senses, etc. Really is magical. It's crazy even to think about how sight started with one cell, then arrays of cells, then entire cortexes for recognizing features, with gestalt processing stages in the neurons right behind your eye to all the trippy weird shit in our visual cortex. All of that had to progressively layer on top of each other to form a much richer, more useful reality. And as a side note. The thing I saw on the one stupidly heavy acid trip I had once was this sort of unfathomable undulating ball made of mirror-glass triangles, and if I calmed my mind it settled down to this thing orbiting a circular center, but as I started to fixate on thoughts it would like open up one of its folds and draw me into one of the mirrors into some fractal space that was like a weird thoughtform of that topic my head was on, and I could "move" myself around these spaces with my thoughts and felt like I had to be intensely focused kind of like how getting too excited in lucid dreams can completely throw them off or wake you up. So then I thought about "god" and saw a giant sun from inside what felt like an infinitely large torus emanating from it with fractal lotus petals, and lo and behold that vague aesthetic is common in Buddhism. I thought about myself and saw a crazy flying mirror telescope thing sticking out of my head (it's hard to describe) like a literal visualization of my brain's multiscale perception. Saw a ton of other bizarre shapes that were all quite poignant based on my thoughts. As I'd calm down again I'd be kicked back out to the "meta thought form" which was this thing that seemingly contained all of my possible thoughts. I had some wicked issues with anxiety before but this experience and couple others somehow made me feel much more alright and connected to life in a very fundamental way. Part of it was seeing just how much calming my anxiety made my thoughts so much clearer and how I could really start to control the hallucinations, and I had not really understood that internally before or really realized how numb I was to the anxiety in my day to day. Was not at all a religious experience though had vivid elements of such. It felt like a lesson in language and the "power of words and feelings" vaguely more than anything for me. Most memorable part really was the way that trip started. I laid in bed and vividly hallucinated laying in a field for what felt like millions of years as the mountains grew and then eroded into vast canyons before my mind completely left my body in that dream state and into the fractal zone till I eventually arrived at that nexus of my thoughts. Felt totally normal in the morning lol.
@Carlos.Explains
@Carlos.Explains Год назад
Joshua, thank you for sharing. I will look into Swenson's work. You've provided so many rabbit holes for me to explore!
@mootytootyfrooty
@mootytootyfrooty Год назад
@@Carlos.Explains keep up the great work!!
@mootytootyfrooty
@mootytootyfrooty Год назад
​@@Carlos.Explains btw just to tie up my random 2AM oversharing stoner trip story, I think if anything these geometries we can see in our own heads are projections off of manifolds our brain is encoding in a latent space, and our brain itself could be thought of like an object that is a space of all possible spaces (at least that our species found necessary to evolve to understand) which somehow has to neatly network it all together. People discussed this idea before with like 3-manifolds for example which can supposedly contain every other geometry (which the hopf fibration is a specific pattern on a 3-sphere IIRC). It seems inescapable that some optimum there would necessarily correlate to some kind of nicely packed hyperbolic geometry that would otherwise unfold into whatever arbitrary sort of geometries you could make as correlating to some conceptual latent space, just folded up into an even more meta manifold. We have hints of this like with grid cell activation patterns being literal triangle grids in living cells for navigation and more, which is an optimal solution. This idea is gaining some traction in psychedelic therapies (I love Qualia's Harvard psychedelics talk on DMT too), as the amount and power of the hallucinogen you're on seems to have a somewhat predictable correlation to the kinds of things you'll see and how effectively abstract they are from a physics/math perspective, just you'd never know that if you weren't versed in some very high level math first. I'm not too gung ho on exploring this stuff myself as I need to function for work lol. I love the whole Oceanic Boundlessness paradigm that's coming out of that.
@Carlos.Explains
@Carlos.Explains Год назад
@@mootytootyfrooty I watched that talk too! So much meat on this comment bone. :)
@mootytootyfrooty
@mootytootyfrooty Год назад
@@Carlos.Explains Great! I just finished your interview with Michael Levin too and was glad you found his youtube channel, that stuff is dynamite. Also, just noticed automod removed another comment I left but I relayed this paper to you as well: *Decoding brain states on the intrinsic manifold of human brain dynamics across wakefulness and sleep* Quote: "Remarkably, a further group analysis shows that the intrinsic manifolds of all participants share a common topology. Overall, our results reveal the intrinsic manifold underlying the spatiotemporal dynamics of brain activity and demonstrate how this manifold enables the decoding of different brain states such as wakefulness and various sleep stages."
@sdas683
@sdas683 Год назад
Disclaimer: Constructive Criticism Follows Eye contact.This video is awesome. Thank you both for sharing mental Gold. Eye contact. The only productive thing I can add at the moment is eye contact. Bobby, if you read this - Confidence is evident in your demeanor as well as the way you carry the path of knowledge and then explain each vector very well. You have it. Just try to improve eye contact with the audience and I think all of the legwork you've put into the research and documentation will come even more full circle, which is why I imagine you took the time to write this book. Example: I'm super engaged because I'm just a data knowledge nerd and Carlos' thumbnail is catchy. You also have a great perspective. I also can't help but observe that Carlos would love to have a chance to engage other than listening to a one-way radio for 40:00 minutes straight. We are sponges. Sponges can only absorb so much in X amount of time. You are seeing many gears in how the World works but missing the actual Human gears and expressions right in front of you. If you make better eye contact you will be able to actually see it but you're looking away so much you totally miss it. Share your knowledge, but just pause (and look at people's faces to gauge their engagement) so other people can also have a chance to share their perspectives simultaneously and then you both grow. I really think you have solid ideas. If you ever want another brain to bounce things off of let me know. 👍
@sdas683
@sdas683 Год назад
TLDR; Programming Lingo You are writing too much data at once without letting the drive (audience) read anything back (verbally or visually).
@sdas683
@sdas683 Год назад
Even after reading all the other comments, I'm just wishing this was a 3 hour discussion with even more back and forth with more answers to more questions because the dialogue was more two-sided
@sdas683
@sdas683 Год назад
I really hope this helps. Keep doing the good work, please!
@givemorephilosophy
@givemorephilosophy Год назад
13:23 So well said... Instead of worrying about what people say but fo us on articulating the complex things in a simple way.. 🙏🙏🙏
@Carlos.Explains
@Carlos.Explains Год назад
Thanks Anand!
@margrietoregan828
@margrietoregan828 Год назад
Warning - long comment A ‘process’ (as apposed to a ‘thing’, an ‘object’ or an ‘event’, say) is a gradual, stepwise, temporally extended change of state brought about by the (lawful, physical, predictable, measurable) action of a reactive agent on a subject, which gradual, stepwise change of state will occur within the subject while ever the agent operates on the subject OR UNTIL THE STATE OF THE SUBJECT BECOMES FULLY CHANGED SUCH THAT IT CAN CHANGE NO MORE. At which point ‘the changing subject’ if it is an evolving life form may enter into a ‘Red Queen-style’ ‘run on the spot’ mode of existence by way of remaining exactly on whatever high ground of perfect adaptedness it has achieved. By their very nature ‘processes’ are quintessentially directional. Given enough time & raw materials a process will (absolutely) proceed towards a particular ‘goal’ of completion. Withdraw the raw materials, or truncate the time alotted, & the process will cease before the entire substrate has changed its state, or it may proceed in a negative direction. EVOLUTION :- EVOLUTION is a PROCESS OF ADAPTATION & as such has built in directionality, & as such, & given enough time and raw materials, will eventually result in a fully evolved, perfectly adapted life form, which fully evolved, perfectly adapted life form will be evidenced by the facts that courtesy of its fully evolved, perfectly adapted state, it will not only be able to live - indeed thrive - any where, at any time, under any circumstances or relocate or terra form to suit, but it will survive & thrive in this manner WITHOUT CAUSING, EXPERIENCING OR INFLICTING ANY WASTE, LOSS OR DAMAGE ON EITHER ITSELF OR TO ITS SURROUNDS, ANIMATE & INANIMATE alike. Living without harming the environment ? One of the many reasons why the Garden of Eden story is as compelling as it is is due to the fact that the occupants were fruitarians. Dining exclusively on fruit not only causes no waste, loss or damage to the plants bearing the fruit, but actually provides them with the service of assisting them in the spreading of their seeds. Dining on vegetables as do vegetarians & pretty much everyone else, causes the harm of vegecide. Apparently Bonobos are significantly more fruitarian - & way, way, way less aggressive - than Pan troglodytes who (in-famously) include fresh caught meat in their diet. Meat eaters inflict incalculable harm on their victims. The fully evolved, perfectly adapted organism will reproduce at almost exactly the carrying capacity of its evolutionarily normal socio-ecological milieu, as to reproduce above that number will create negative, & ultimately harmful, pressures on both the group & their habitat, while reproducing below that number will open the niche to competing species which may do harm to that niche. We consider agriculture to be one of the greatest boons to our species. But it isn’t & wasn’t. ……. Bobby is on the right path. Rightly understood the evolutionary trajectory of life is perfectly clear.
@TRFAD
@TRFAD Год назад
I've put a lot of thought into a similar concept. Really cool to hear someone else talking about determinism being compatible with free will in this way.
@givemorephilosophy
@givemorephilosophy Год назад
Would love to connect and explore a way to create a complete theory🙏🙏
@sethrenville798
@sethrenville798 Год назад
Even from a strictly physics standpoint, determinism is inarguable, as beyond our 3 physical dimensions, time exists simultaneously calmer rather than in what we perceive as a linear fashion, meaning that all things that have existed or will exist currently exist. Now, whether the existence contains multiple possible features or just one I think is basically a moot point for almost every single human on Earth, as until you completely understand your subconscious mind and have integrated all of your subconscious or unconscious beliefs, preconceived notions, filters, emotions, and thought comment you don't actually have free will anyways. You're completely driven by The programming that you have picked up randomly throughout your life, and most people don't even know what half of their programming is, let alone how it interacts, or when it pops up
@givemorephilosophy
@givemorephilosophy Год назад
@@sethrenville798 Existence is complete finite and in order. The form and the formless coexist. With the coexistence mindset we can look at everything that is confusing .
@EricDMMiller
@EricDMMiller 9 месяцев назад
​@@givemorephilosophythat sounds like religious horseshit.
@givemorephilosophy
@givemorephilosophy Год назад
33:30 Amazing insight. The propensity and freedom to go either way is free will .... Human beings have to just correct their mistakes... Knowledge in genes😮😮😮
@givemorephilosophy
@givemorephilosophy Год назад
21:31 Existential Reality is so very simple and easy to understand. The basic design theory of Adrian Bejan a scientist in Boston can be another person who has explained this.
@networkimprov
@networkimprov 11 месяцев назад
I'd love to hear you speak with thinkers who suppose that our model of Time is probably wrong, and hence processes that assume Time (e.g. thermodynamics, evolution) are more likely artifacts of human perception than fundamental constructs...
@azurebrown3756
@azurebrown3756 10 месяцев назад
I still know one thing for sure, from nothing comes nothing. And secound Reality, God & The Universe are 1, 2 & 3. Reality is the environment of God. I love the title of the book. Great vid as always
@Meta4Monky
@Meta4Monky Год назад
This is my truth. Can't wait to listen to book.
@givemorephilosophy
@givemorephilosophy Год назад
28:34 Language is a construct of humanity and knowing the use as well as limitation of language helps us know understanding as much more than language and is words. That is Existential Reality which can be experienced and more than words that happens in a homo sapien that is the life atom operating as a humna being in a physical body.
@givemorephilosophy
@givemorephilosophy Год назад
25:34 Life atom coexisting with the physical complicated body as a proposal solves all the missing pieces in the puzzle of Existential Reality
@sethrenville798
@sethrenville798 Год назад
I have a slightly different supposition in regards to your idea that entropy is An existence to pressure organisms to evolve more complexity. In my understanding, it's significantly more fundamental than that, and is actually necessary for any sort of meaningful existence at all, as otherwise, there would be no destruction to make way for change, meaning that the universe would have been created call the end of been stagnant for the remainder of eternity, at which point, I would argue that it is functionally the same as not existing at all. I do come however, agreed that the way it functions does exactly that, and absolutely generates an unbelievable amount of information, in regards to the particular Traits that are most beneficial in regards to not only persisting within this reality, but also, enjoying the experience, as we gonna as conscious beings, are, at the very least, parts of the universe, if not linked to The processing complex that Drives the irreversible computations we experience as time. This generation of information is actually what entrepreneur really boils down to, rather than things tending toward disorder, as, probabilistically speaking, anything could possibly happen, but it is legitimately impossible to do anything without generating information This generation of information is actually what entrepreneur really boils down to, rather than things tending toward disorder, as, probabilistically speaking, anything could possibly happen, but it is legitimately impossible to do anything without Some form of information being generated, within the confines of spacetime, at least, as every change, no matter how miniscule, reverberates through at least one quantum field as a change in its overall probalistoc waveform, which is necessarily taken into account as the particulars of the spontaneous Symmetry breaking that collapses That wave form into our physical actuality Are continuously calculated with each passing shift. Also, if all organisms are just embodied theories about how to survive in the world all particular circumstances are just embodied theories about what is going to happen in the world, brought about by the aforementioned calculations being done on the probabilistic wave forms of the future, then actualized through spontaneous symmetry breaking through interaction with the field that performs a calculation Every time to wave functions interact in a different way, which I would bet my bottom dollar is a conscious field.
@clivebasson7831
@clivebasson7831 Год назад
One of the most illuminating books on the Universe and the creation of life - riveting!!
@Carlos.Explains
@Carlos.Explains Год назад
I agree, Clive!
@clivebasson7831
@clivebasson7831 Год назад
@@Carlos.Explains Thank you Carlos
@carbon1479
@carbon1479 Год назад
1:18:16 - I started reading the free will article in Psychology Today and - at least to me - this sounds more like a compatibalism rather than free will argument. My own sense of determinism comes from a different metric - ie. time, that a person can only have a given set of thoughts and feelings from currents and priors and that if you rewound and replayed the same five minutes of a person's life there's either no reason to believe that they would be perfect carbon copies or, alternately, they'd be coming from significantly different histories but chained to a similar causal relationship with time (if we take the Brian Greene objection to determinism that it's more likely chaos as the model). I think the argument your making is a good one against ideological determinism, ie. the idea that if you can't do anything about what you're doing or not doing then it means you'll be likely to subscribe to simple heuristics rather than be inspired to more, it's a bit like saying that in determinism people couldn't learn (I'd argue couldn't 'not' learn), and it would be a regime where everyone's beliefs based on either facts, emotion, trauma, family history, any combination of the four, would still be playing out in the context of total determinism. What that does is makes the effects of publicly discussing determinism and the existence or truth of something like superdeterminism, very different issues because one's a sociological effect, the other is our sense of time as feed-forward causality and even lateral moves (say premonitions, finding a good medium, having a guide say something) is still happening in the context of time, it could be as complex a cosmic hyper-organism or Donald Hoffman's stack of conscious agents and still be superdetermined (at least from our perspective) based on what they do to our eternal block universe from the outside (and they in turn may be in the same situation from a different level of causality).
@Jacob011
@Jacob011 Год назад
34:30 Sounds like he's describing nature going through an inferential procedure. 01:22:10 Are some universes cooperating? (remember there isn't just competition in nature but also cooperation, in fact that's the decisive thing that levels it up) Question to the FEP-conscious audience: If the universe is an organism with a Markov blanket, where the observable universe (the inside) are the internal states, is the dark energy part of the set of external states of the universe? In other words, is the dark energy part of "the environment" which the universe is trying to model according to its capacity?
@anjankatta1864
@anjankatta1864 11 месяцев назад
@carlos - how do we message or donate to you?
@thephilosophicalagnostic2177
I like Ray Kurzweil's answer to the question, "Does God exist?" He responded: "Not yet."
@givemorephilosophy
@givemorephilosophy Год назад
6:15 This book is just the ultimate existential Reality explanations... And how it helps us live in daily life is the fun part...
@davidrandell2224
@davidrandell2224 11 месяцев назад
QM classicalized in 2010. Juliana Mortenson website Forgotten Physics uncovers the hidden variables and constants and the bad math of Wien, Schrodinger, Heisenberg, Einstein, Debroglie,Planck,Bohr etc. Start at start: “The Final Theory: Rethinking Our Scientific Legacy “, Mark McCutcheon for proper physics.
@givemorephilosophy
@givemorephilosophy Год назад
37:16 Particles of two types .. physical stuff and cognitive life atom
@StephenPaulKing
@StephenPaulKing Год назад
Could we have a situation where Smolin's Fecund universe and Penrose's Conformal cyclic universe are both correct?
@Carlos.Explains
@Carlos.Explains Год назад
Great question! I'll add to the list for round 2. :)
@sethrenville798
@sethrenville798 Год назад
As far as any inherent subjectivity of the universe, I'm sure not all people who think As I do, that there is no inherent objectivity possible,will agree with my (necessarily subjective) perspective. The way I see it is that we can never truly know anything objectively, due to the fact we are Necessarily limited to a subjective perspective, and even if we can get All human beings do agree on something, or can even get experimental proof that's something will always happen within a certain set of conditions, the inherent nature of a certain set of conditions implies subjectivity. Honestly, it's mostly semantics, but I think it's a useful thing to keep in mind, and anyways, The issue a lot of people have with subjective ism is the idea that nothing is better or worse, but Those aren't both qualifiers that really just boiled down to the usefulness of something to a particular person in a particular situation, which is inherently subjective, as science is likely not nearly as good for someone who is incurably terminally ill as finding religion. Also as far as the continued complexity is concerned, I think the universe exists that way necessarily, as a by-product of the fact that Our physical reality Thelma I think, is brought about by irreversible series of computations that collapse the probabilistic wave functions of the future into specific, Actualized circumstances constances of our physical reality. Information is what I think is the fundamental building block of the universe, after all, it makes up both energy, Which is just information encoded as frequency and amplitude (which also makes up masses), but also Explains why consciousness chooses to insert itself into this universe, too take advantage of this actualized calculations that seem to happen as a byproduct of this particular mode of existence, (which it likely set in motion, IMO), So that it can actually delete enjoy the experience, rather than having to constantly proctor the calculations it's doing, in order to continue to have experience. Plus, the universe literally comes from nothing, so it's working pretty fucking hard to collapse all of the negative ones and ones that consciousness keeps pulling out of the universe as metaphorical ask back into nothing this, because it turns out this universe really doesn't like things to change, at all, ever, and will actively work to return them toPlus, the universe literally comes from nothing, so it's working pretty fucking hard to collapse all of the negative ones and ones that consciousness keeps pulling out of the universe as metaphorical ask back into nothing this, because it turns out this universe really doesn't like things to change, at all, ever, and will actively work to return them to The most "balanced" state possible ( Meaning the most probable state, as The most probable States will take the universe less calculations to pop out)
@givemorephilosophy
@givemorephilosophy Год назад
42:43 Finite orderly existence That simple
@sethrenville798
@sethrenville798 Год назад
I honestly don't understand why there is any argument about determinism anywhere as from a psychological perspective, there is likely not a single human being that has ever been alive that is truly had free will, in that significant majority, if not literally all of humans choices are driven by their subconscious beliefs, preconceived notions, thoughts, feelings, or simply their biology and their circumstances, Interacting with The mental programs they have picked up over the years, most of which they are likely not even aware that they are running, much less How they will be affected by given situations, or which ones are liable to appear when, and what that means for their internal circumstances that they use to govern their so-called decision making. Honestly, this is why self knowledge, such as the idea of self actualization that Carl Jung put forward, as essentially a westernized mix of all Eastern spiritual traditions, is so important, as without it, you will always be a slave to your programming, at the absolute best.
@TheIgnoramus
@TheIgnoramus Год назад
Ooh ya. More unification in the station.
@S.G.Wallner
@S.G.Wallner Год назад
Excellent conversation, so many interesting ideas, many of which I can get behind. However, I'm uncomfortable with one of the fundamental assumptions being that agents are information processing organisms, or that the brain or genome "encodes" information for prediction or knowledge. It sounds mostly correct as a model, but I have not heard a convincing argument for it which incorporates a meaningful ontology and metaphysic. We need better language for this conception of information because I think there are categorical errors being made. I'm seeking conversations about this complex issue.
@Carlos.Explains
@Carlos.Explains Год назад
Thanks S.G. for the well-thought comment. I think Bobby does a great job in the book linking information processing to a meaningful ontology. Though I do agree with you in spirit, that information processing doesn't feel "natural." Say, it doesn't seem to be a defining characteristic of living organisms. But then I'm reminded of something as bizarre as quantum mechanics, and realize that our intuitions are sometimes lacking. Information seems to be rather fundamental.
@S.G.Wallner
@S.G.Wallner Год назад
@@Carlos.Explains after commentating I had that thought that maybe your guest has developed what I think is lacking. I plan to look into his work more deeply. For now, I still stand firmly on the side that information is not something that exists objectively out there in the world. I have a sense that just like the trend of many people going beyond materialism, there will be a time when more people realize we need to go beyond information theory based on first principles.
@Carlos.Explains
@Carlos.Explains Год назад
@@S.G.Wallner As far as I know, information always requires a physical representation. I believe Landauer said "information is physical."
@S.G.Wallner
@S.G.Wallner Год назад
@@Carlos.Explains I can agree that information requires a physicality. But I tend to think of that as a necessary condition. What do you think about con conceptualizing a category of information which can be modeled as a potential, contained by the physicality of the objective reference? (Yikes, that might be hard to interpret.) When I perceive the coffee cup on the table, information about the coffee cup (see a Gibson/Bergson, affordances) is realized in my subjective experience. That which informs, (the coffee cup) does not contain any quantifiable amount of information objectively in and of itself, in my opinion. The properties of the cup dictate a potential of information which can be realized in a subjective perception, and some of this potential information can be related with an abstract symbolic system, maybe what we think of as data analysis, or Shannon information, or kolmogorov complexity, or qubism, etc. I believe in the power of models in prediction and approximation, but I'm not yet willing to make the leap that computations (like those we think through) are actually occurring or bring in processed in a complex living organism. I'm willing to be persuaded though. I could try to share some resources which support my intuitions if you'd like. There are others who have questioned the nature of information beyond the face value assumptions in information theory or information processing. Maybe you are familiar with Searle's Chinese room argument. I'm interested in your response if you ever find time to think about it.
@Carlos.Explains
@Carlos.Explains Год назад
@@S.G.Wallner Another really thoughtful comment! Down to see these resources, if you would like to share. I feel like I lack enough knowledge to even express an opinion!
@givemorephilosophy
@givemorephilosophy Год назад
41:21 What we imagine we make that is the use of imagination
@givemorephilosophy
@givemorephilosophy Год назад
39:46 We can flee or correct things on this planet and salvage it😇😇😇😇
@givemorephilosophy
@givemorephilosophy Год назад
31:28 Genes are just the potent physical body given the requisite environment.
@exmodule6323
@exmodule6323 Год назад
Smolin already said much of this
@RichBehiel
@RichBehiel Год назад
Btw Eric’s love for the Hopf fibration is overrated. It shows up a lot in physics but it’s not *that* profound. It’s like when you’re doing geometry and you see circles all the time. In physics and quantum computing you see hopf fibrations popping up here and there. It’s cool to know but it’s not, like, the secret to the universe. And no, sadly it’s not the topology of fermions.
@Carlos.Explains
@Carlos.Explains Год назад
Richard, thanks for the comment. I suspect this is true.
@givemorephilosophy
@givemorephilosophy Год назад
20:05 God as a form of Morphogentic field or energy that is static motionless omnipotent non depleting and reason for all entities being in motion and progress....
@givemorephilosophy
@givemorephilosophy Год назад
22:17 Science based on empirical data is incomplete. Instead of do observe and infer the correct way is to observe learn infer without interference. All science talks of other things remaining constant and that is the axiom that is incorrect
@wearethefruitoftheuniverse
@wearethefruitoftheuniverse Год назад
Why does it feels like I started something
@Carlos.Explains
@Carlos.Explains Год назад
Because you did. 😉
@wearethefruitoftheuniverse
@wearethefruitoftheuniverse Год назад
@@Carlos.Explains 😳
@Jacob011
@Jacob011 Год назад
Have John Vervaeke on!
@Carlos.Explains
@Carlos.Explains Год назад
Hey Jacob, I asked him but haven't heard back. Maybe in the future!
@Jacob011
@Jacob011 Год назад
@@Carlos.Explains Thanks! He's probably walled in by requests ;-)
@yourlogicalnightmare1014
@yourlogicalnightmare1014 11 месяцев назад
The only way you can reach the conclusion that consciousness is emergent is by ignoring every NDE testimony and every 5-MEO testimony, and Idealism, and Vedic philosophy.
@jahsuncamara-kb2ec
@jahsuncamara-kb2ec 10 месяцев назад
Black 🌟♌ Gold hetheru Texas tea 🍵🍵 Duracell Blue white ever 🌟♌ ready notice sky blue cloud ☁️☁️☁️ white green tree 🎄🌲🐦 whispering grass jack up The 🦁🌽 beanstalk sleeping 👊 fist rustickle party 🎉🥳 welcome ❤
@okolepuka3134
@okolepuka3134 Год назад
L.A. much? why exchange idk with idk ?
@wulphstein
@wulphstein 7 месяцев назад
Kookoo physics.
@Carlos.Explains
@Carlos.Explains 7 месяцев назад
Are you interested in complexity or information theory?
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