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Hi Frieda, I sooo enjoy and appreciate your teaching here. I never have been able to see/read vol.1 of these rules. Has it been removed? I so wish I lived again near a Brooklyn; I married and moved to Australia where everything is Lubavitch driven. I miss living a community where I heard Yiddish and while no one could believe I was Jewish, I just loved being immersed in the Boro Park culture. You do a good job as a shaliach for your communities.
@@meeeka Hi Meeeka! ❤❤Here's part 1: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jkm-eab7QEM.htmlsi=OymVXniVzDXonH71 It seems to me Melbourne has a very diverse Jewish community. I get quite a few Australians on my tour who speak Yiddish, which always surprises me!
I have to admit when I left and went on my own Derech I saw my childhood from a “half empty” point of view. As I got older I saw how much I took for granted and didn’t value .
@@VioletACordyThere used to be an Episcopalian Girls Boarding School in my hometown. The chapel presently used for wedding venues. Legend has it there's a ghost of a nun seen high up in the stairwell which is spiraled. Very occasionally a pair of girls would be downtown but I think they were not supposed to be. They had uniforms so you knew who they were. I graduated in '70. It was ... like ... existential 😂
I love your blogs so much. There is something so special about how you share honestly and respectfully. It is a rare combination. I look forward to each epispde.
Thank you. Likewise I appreciate when I feel the viewer isn’t just rushing to judgement. It allows me to tackle more sensitive topics without feeling like it will be received in black and white.
First of all Frieda, refuah shleimah. So sorry to hear that you have been under the weather. In listening to you reading the student rule book with explanation, I hear and see the burden and pain that you carry with it. What I mean is that I see the difficulty you have that is a consequence of the imposed distance from your loved ones and the community that you grew up with. I don’t know if that distance was self imposed or put upon you externally, but my heart is filled with compassion for you. In the end, each of us must do what we need, in order to live and to serve G-d with true joy. No one else can truly know what that measure is for another person. It is between that individual and G-d alone. Only blessings of good for you and your family. I just listened to your closing comments and only have this response… No tears, dear one. You are a good and sweet person, doing your best. The Creator of us all, G-d, loves you. Nothing about you is a mistake. Strive to turn your mind and heart from sadness and sorrow. Remember that each breath of life that you take is a precious gift from Above, another opportunity to grow and share love and to do good only, like we learn from Reb Yisroel, הבעל שם טוב. גנוג!
Frieda, your journalism and commentary on these topics really shines. As a person with zero connection to the Hasidic community (other than having lived somewhere near a sizeable community and seeing it from a total outsider's perspective) it really helps me gain a more nuanced understanding of how people live and why. I, too, love complications and also somewhat naturally bristle at strict rules, so I think that I would also not have been able to thrive in such a community. I do think that your personal perspectives are important, ie, how looking through these rulebooks made you feel, because the only way that many of us who are on the outside will ever be able to learn is from people like you who are committed to speaking about your experiences and taking the time to teach others. Please take care of yourself and get plenty of rest so you can feel better! PS: I also really enjoyed your stroll and interview with Philip Lopate - what an interesting person and such a great storyteller.
I will tell you from the bottom of my heart - people like you keep me going. Thank you. ❤️ ֿ PS my time with Lopate was really lovely. I’m glad the segment is getting watched!
I am Jewish but honestly there is too much say by some leaders what to do/not to do. I am not talking about Torah law I am talking about rabbinic orders and customs. Cannot have a drink while walking in the street? What if it is 90 degrees? Wearing heavy opaque stockings in 100 degree weather? Wow too much control. I understand modesty and respect it. I do not understand so much control has nothing to do with Judaism has to do with power. We were not put on this earth to be controlled like this. We live in a free society not communist. Lubavitch is much more open as well as Modern Orthodoxy.
Hi I'm interested in their view of Amish and Old Order Mennonites. They country folk and go barefoot. Work out of doors washing, cooking, gardening. All dresses are same and below knee and the little white cap with hair tucked up in. Do you think Satmar think their bare legs immodest? They also do activities together like volleyball and softball but are otherwise separate. Their clothing needs are different. They don't choose knit and nylon fabric. It's hot in summer and offers nothing in winter. They have some corny customs, too, that's about power but I just want to know if you think Satmar considers them immodest? Both groups will claim you a heretic if you leave the community. I love a lot about both but it gets crazy.
Leaving security of community whichever one we grew up in means you have the crazy world. My community was Catholic and as far as I can see nearly all of them still are which baffles me. My journey was meant to find my way out and literally to find my Jewish ancestry. It's been something.
Thank you so much for speaking from your heart about your experience reading these rules. That helped me understand the complexity most of all. ❤❤❤ What I got from hearing the rules was that childhood and children are desperately loved in this community, and keeping them safe and feeling equally valuable is important in these schools. My perspective on raising children is quite different but I can see how people find structure like this helpful. Like you, I've always been a free spirit!
Well done. I love what you had to say about the complexity of the world we live in. Likewise, your comment on Satmar girls more socially interacting with other Satmar girls, as a result of not being allowed to use phones/Internet, struck a cord with me. They are protecting their children a lot more effectively than secular parents are. We could all learn from each other.
I can understand why you felt you needed to leave your Satmar community. I truly feel compassion for you and how difficult and hard it must have been for you to leave your community. You are a brave and courageous woman. And I so hope you have found joy and peace in the new world you created for yourself G…d’s blessings to you
"When you can see color, when you can see complexity, when you can see different views, different opinions, the butting of heads - then you see human nature. Then you can see the humanity. ...It's a human world with different perspectives, opinions, values, beliefs, passions, and so on." I found this quote so beautiful. I am a Christian who works for a church, and we have our local synagogue using part of our building while their building needs major renovations. They are not Hasidic; I believe they are Reformed. I have really enjoyed learning about all of the Jewish holidays, and some traditions and customs. Previously I only knew about Chanukah and Passover.
Public school graduate here, and I vividly remember our elementary school doing lice checks. This would have been the late '80s/early '90s. My mom was paranoid about lice and forbid us from ever trying on another person's hat, because that was one way lice could get transferred. I guess she was onto something, because I made it all the way through school without getting lice! But the lice checks definitely used to be a thing, if they're not anymore.
Interesting about absolutely no cell phones. I do remember in my adult life when there was no such thing as a cell phone , hadn’t been invented yet. And surprise surprise , we all managed to not just survive but we even thrived and did just fine ! How did we ever survive such deprivation? Must have been a miracle
I did student teaching in public school and the school had all students-boys AND girls check for lice 3 times a year. I am now in an amazing Skver school and we check for lice every Friday. So if there's something, it will be caught before shabbos, when the girls all play together and it can spread a lot. Wishing you a Refuah shleima!!
Thank you so much. This was very interesting and I think the rules do suck the air out of the room. I’m shocked at the amount of involvement the schools have in the home. I really enjoy your videos as I have learned so much. I don’t agree with a lot of it but it helps to give a good understanding of the faith. Blessings to you and your son. You are doing very educational work. Greetings from 🇨🇦.
Sorry to hear that you weren't feeling well. Hope you fully recover as quickly as possible. As for the video itself: Very interesting and informative for a better understanding of the Orthodoxy. Also, it's a good thing that I was born into the world of Reform, as you note, all these rules are very inhibiting and do suck the air out of the room. All best wishes.
So sorry to hear you were so ill and Hope you make a full recovery soon. As always , excellent information presented very interestingly. Love your channel
Oh Frida I am so sorry you have been so sick. Your tour was one of the highlights of my trip to NYC two years ago and I love your channel so much. I understand I have caught every sickness going around this year. Being that sick shakes your world up in every way. Take care of yourself and I hope you are back to 100% soon
Thanks so much for sharing this content, it is very fascinating to learn about different Jewish communities and their cultural customs. I hope to continue to learn from your channel and enjoy your videos! G-d bless you
I'm only half way through but the Florida thing intrigued me. There's a new (approx 10-year-old) chassidic community on Canvey Island, a kind of satellite community for London. Since it's a coastal town (island, really), I wonder if modesty is a greater concern what with the beach. Rumour has it that the community wanted to buy a beach for their private use!
I grew up in Miami Beach, and yes it's a big thing that people are more "lenient" when they come down from NY to Florida. It used to be that people thought they could get away with things bc no one would know them, but it's such a big thing now that you run into everyone you know anyway lol.
This rule about girls not staying late at weddings is really interesting to me. I was raised in quite a liberal middle class family (as were my friends) but I cant imagine our parents being ok with us being out until midnight at events as often as 5 nights a week! Perhaps the schools have noticed the impact this is having on school performance if girls are very tired the next day? If attendance at weddings is so important, I imagine it would take a firm line from all of the schools to change habits?
I don't think the girls would end up going to five weddings a week, but maybe two a week during wedding season... But that's just one kind of outing. There are other simchas like bar mitzvahs, tenoims, upsherins. Then there are parties.... There's A LOT of socializing and a lot of it happens at night. Also, notice the girls are up until a million o'clock talking on the phone. So, I can imagine this plays a role -- the school is trying to get the students to sleep decent hours.
Another fantastic video - I was looking forward to this one! Thank you!! It is always nice to learn more about this community from you. And the comments on this video are fascinating. I think it’s an unrealistic idealized view to think more rules makes you safer and happier, but clearly it appeals to many. I’m sorry that you were sick, I’m happy you seem well now, and best wishes for good health for the rest of this cold and flue season!!
When I used to work in pharmacy back in Australia, all the trainings said that nits are more prevalent in girls because girls tend to sit close to one another with their heads together and the nits can jump from person to person where as boys tend to play further apart, running around
In what year did they give that training? It sounds like wildly outdated ideas of gender (and someone who never has watched children play - do they imagine boys just run in their own lanes around a track like horses?) so I’m curious if that advice was from decades ago or more recently.
Thank you so much for taking the time (twice!) to translate and comment the school's rulebook. Your Yiddish-to-English translation skills are really good. Were you doing that on the fly? As ever, we all appreciate your efforts bridging the understanding between the secular and Hasidic world. A sheyne dank.
I appreciate learning about a community that is so close to me here in Brooklyn. I think even though we live different lives understanding why others we see do what they do helps us all understand each other and we can appreciate differences even if we do not share in how each other lives. I find it very interesting to know the whys behind what I see when passing through these communities. Understanding breeds tolerance.
This is my hope. Some people get very nervous when less-than-perfect sides of the community are shared, but I truly believe and hope that understanding others leads to more tolerance and acceptance.
Thank you for the video! I don't know what's up with the lice issues either. When I was growing up in southeastern Minnesota there was an annual outbreak in my (public) school, and in Washington State it was much less frequent. My children have never had a school lice outbreak. Who knows?
I am most surprised by the expectation by the school that they can extend their rules to each family's homelife. Though as you say, that is a complex issue. It is not a secular school, it is one extremely intertwined with the familial culture so in some ways it makes sense. And it is probably impossible to get statistics on how many families completely comply and how many feel there are some issues that they have the last say on, not the school. Though I am now retired I was a public school teacher and so I find it interesting to compare and contrast the similarities and the differences in the schools' missions, attitudes, and rules. In some ways, more similarities than you might think! The language, so very reminiscent of the19th century style, was charming and funny in its own way. Somehow or other, you have sucked me into your channel about a place, a way of life, a religion, and a set of people that I have absolutely no experience with! You have a knack for presenting both the mundane and the incredibly complicated hidden parts of life in an engaging way that stays respectful to both the culture you are presenting and the ignorant ones like me that know nothing about it. I look forward to learning more.
Thank you so much for a great comment. This video exploring the school rules is one of the most interesting to me because in some ways it is so foreign yet as you say, there are more similarities than at first meet the eye. I always appreciate when people come into this with non-judge mental curiosity!
Love the recess Brochos (Blessings) rule so smart. No candy!!! But I send yogurt and cheese, but that could be a problem with meat lunch. I guess if I don't send in a meat lunch day...
We always had a lunch calendar so we would know what to send as snacks, but every once in a while something would change and all the moms would get upset bc of what they had sent.
Joe, thank you so very much. I'm thankfully feeling better (although with a lingering cough) I wanted to ask you if it would be okay to thank you in a future episode for your generous contribution?
Im not Jewish, but this is good common sense. Teaching parents responsibility, so lacking in this world. The Hutterites too are shut off from the world. They live in colonies away from public.With a lot of rules/ control for everyone. But no one is poor. All are provided for and cared for, included, celebrated - which is good. But some resent the enforced modesty, the control / lack of freedom. Yet it trains a child up with good and Godly values - to go far in life. Sets them up for success and blessings because of learned obedience when young. A good foundation.
The Hutterites train their children to do well in their community. But if you don’t want to stay there, you aren’t trained to do well in the mainstream community. Specifically, education and non-communal life skills (e.g. how to shop or handle money). The children are then forced to stay when they don’t want to be there, because it is too hard on them when they leave, or have to really struggle to catch up when they leave. And all the psychological aspects of having to make independent decisions and adapt to a new culture. There are a couple documentaries about the Hutterites and young adults leaving. It’s too simple to idealize a very high control society.
We had regular lice checks in the Scottish Catholic school system. State funded schools, but controlled by the church in as much as which teachers were recruited and what was taught. A nurse would visit and we would all line up in class groups to go into a room which was normally a music practice room. There was only one student in the room at a time, so there was privacy should a student have lice. A letter would be posted home to parent but nothing was disclosed to others in the school. The local pharmacy supplied cheap lice treatment lotion and nit combs, so lice outbreaks were quickly controlled.
Possibly there are other ways of nurturing decency in girls but this way has contributed to the loveliness of Tova, Pearl and yourself. I assume the three of you experienced some form of these rules. Thank you for sharing😊
As a guy that grew up in a similar community (meaning culturally chasidish as having ties with a few main chasidish sects ) and growing up in a chasidish chader its very enlighting to hear the other genders experience and their sufferings!
Refuah Shleimah! It's funny to me how many of the rules are the same as we have in Lubavitch, but it's sort of understood that a lot of it won't be adhered to, especially around technology. And of course we are just as susceptible to gashmius as Satmar is. And we had/have a big divide about whether the Crown Heights Eruv is kosher. I'm curious about a couple of things. In the section about snacks at school, they don't mention something that we do, which is that everything has to have chassidishe hechsherim -- is that because it's just understood in Satmar homes that it will automatically be like this anyway? Considering how much detail they go into about technology, music, etc I'm surprised they don't say this. Also about music -- we had Mattisyahu as a BT in Crown Heights, and he got very well-known during that time in his life, but you couldn't find his CD's in Crown Heights shops. His music was considered for the outside world, not for "our kids." So there are sooooo many shades of gray.
Hello! Actually in part one they did have hechsher rules for food brought to a party. I think they just didn't bother here. Didn't know that about the Crown Heights Eruv! I always enjoy learning about the nuances of Chabad, like the Mattisyahu approach. Love some shades of gray.
I wound up at a Shabbes meal hosted by the Lubavich shlichim in a city in which I was living when Mattisyahu in his BT phase was visiting with his family. :) Neat meal. (I realize this is only tangentially related, but it happened to bring together several elements mentioned above.)
Its so true tht obe can aee it on the childreb which kind of media they are considering. The child I saw had ab attention span of a few swconds. I asked the child if she watches TV. Yes, indeed, shevwatches Tv and she wanted to go home. I didn't have a TV.
More unites us than divides us 🥰. I went to a Catholic girls school & tbh we had a lot of the same rules abt not eating in the street, length of skirt, going out at night etc. My daughter goes to a public school in an Asian country & every holiday (vacation) the school sends a list of places where students may not hang out, what they should not do, how their screen time should be limited & a vast pile of homework, this is in a culture where 99.9% both parents work. 😂
Interesting about the rules regarding lice. I thought it was a thing of the past. I went to Roman Catholic school in the late 60s/early 70s. I remember bring a letter from school asking mothers to check there children for lice. This was an annual letter sent out during the winter months. Which always prompted my mother to wash my hair with great vigor. OUCH!!
Regarding the lice issue- 1. Keep in mind that Chassidish families have many children, which makes it difficult to stay on top of this and more difficult to keep it from spreading within a family 2. In Israel head lice is more prevalent ( and schools do not have routine checks, etc.) and therefore anyone visiting from Israel can cause the spread of lice
In public school the school nurse does a regular check of lice and if any adult notices it, the adult talks to the nurse who pulls the student’s class aside and checks them all to confirm health or lice and then if lice is found the class is sent home with a note. They try not to identify the student with lice because it is often caught in the home and siblings often spread it.
That's interesting about the frequency of lice checks. Public schools have lice too, but there are very few checks for them (and that's if the district even has a lice protocol to begin with). I think because families in the community are large and there are frequent large gatherings (shabbos, etc), the likelihood of lice spreading is quite high and they're trying to keep it from becoming a huge problem. It could also be a holdover/trauma response from the Holocaust, as lice and the typhus they spread were endemic in the concentration camps.
I never connected it to the Holocaust, that’s so interesting. I’d go every year before the first day of school for a lice check. Regular litvak school. My brothers had lice check too
@@b.miller2799 When I was in middle school, I read a book about a boy's experience in a concentration camp (can't remember the title, but it was something along the lines of "Daniel's Story"). I remember one part where he talks about the lice and how the blanket he's given is just crawling with them to the point where he feels like its moving on top of him as he sleeps. That vivid description stuck with me for years and when I contracted lice as an adult from a student in a school I worked at, the memory of that part in the book made me want to shave my head and burn all my bed clothes the second I discovered them in my hair (fortunately, they were exterminated in a manner far less drastic and both my hair and bedroom survived the infestation intact)
Re: lice, years ago, my niece's (public) elementary school experienced an outbreak of lice and subsequently required all girls to wear their hair back in ponytails or braids for the rest of the school year. I remember getting checked for lice in school, but I don't remember any rules about how we were supposed to wear our hair as a result (perhaps because I had short hair all through elementary school). In any case, I have to be aware that school rules that extend into the household are the exception and not the rule. For elementary and middle school, I attended a small private school that was not religious but still very strict. The headmaster constantly reminded us that out in the world, we were ambassadors of the school. Specifically, we were told not to cuss in public, to boast, or to dress immodestly. Can you imagine a modern secular school having such rules?
On the hair lice issue, I remember from my days of elementary school, the school nurse would come around and check everyone's hair if someone reported lice or if a staff member noticed the classic signs of lice of scratching behind the ear frequently. As a kid, these things happen. Once I became a teacher in middle and high school, we did not have a school nurse do the checking of the whole class. Cases of lice were less frequent due to girls, mainly, using hair tools that produced a lot of heat such as hair dryers, straighteners, curling irons, crimping plates, etc....as well as chemicals in the hair like hair color, gel, hair spray, and general styling products. Lice hate heat and love clean hair, so they die quickly in high heat/chemical exposed hair and don't establish the breeding of babies (nits). Younger girls don't usually have their hair exposed to such high heat tools or hair dyes or chemicals, so younger girls have hair that is more hospitable to making happy lice families. Younger kids also share lots of things like brushes, hats, and are in close proximity to each other so the lice jump from head to head. Boys keep shorter hair that is not a good nesting place for lice because it offers no protection from light and the heat of the sun or cold of winter. Lice like clean, long hair to have a protected place to make their families. Having taught in public school, I have seen middle and high school aged families that have reoccurring lice infections because they do not clean the home thoroughly enough. Cleaning the hair is one thing, but everything must be cleaned and sprayed with poison to kill the lice. Clothing, bedding, towels, curtains....all fabric that can be washed should be washed and dried on high heat. Pets must also be treated. Carpet and soft furniture must be treated. Hair tools and brushes must be soaked in bleach to kill the lice and all water/debris must be thrown out. Purging the home of lice requires a lot of cleaning, more so than even a Passover cleaning. I have had students whose homes and families have been quarantined by the local health department until their home passes a lice inspection. Lice drink blood and present other health issue to everyone, including pets/animals, so if there is a reoccurring issue, the health department must quarantine the whole home and family. Younger girls have longer hair without the heat/chemical damage of older girls, so they have nicer homes for lice. Since young orthodox girls don't expose their hair to chemicals or high heat tools, they have more lice issues. Boys tend to have much shorter hair that doesn't offer the protection of hair that is longer all over versus just the trendies. The other problem with lice, is they glue their nits on to the hair, which have to be removed. Girls have so much more hair and lice combs are really flea combs. The teeth are very tight and must pull the glued, dead eggs off the hair, otherwise it looks like they have an open infestation. The pulling of hair is torture for girls, so combing out all of the nits can be traumatic for the child and the parents. Some people pay individuals that specialize in lice removal to do this or the girl gets a very short hair cut that is easier to clean what nits remain after cutting the hair. The school will not allow anyone, even those with lots of money, to return with what appears to be a live infestation. Lice also prosper on many animals like goats, sheep, deer, primates, cows, etc....Lice do pose a serious threat to livestock because lice will completely drain an animal of blood if they are not killed. Sheep will pull their wool out to get rid of them, so lice are a parasite of many animals. Hopefully this will help someone to understand that having lice does not mean that you do not keep a clean home or clean family. It is just one of those pests that easily spread and happen to be part of being human. Things happen, so you deal with them in a mature, sensible manner while also teaching the next generation to do the same. Life happens......
Having grown up in a pre-cell phones and Internet era I feel I spent more time interacting with my friends than is common now. To check something with a friend takes a few seconds and just a line of text for my son sitting at home, whereas I would have sort out the friend and probably chatted a bit too. It seems more natural and our social skills have developed around that way of communicating for millions of years. On the other hand I understand that, as you said, a child that doesn't have a phone or Internet is now very isolated.
I didn't get a computer at home until I was in high school in the early 2000s. I remember borrowing books from the library when writing reports. I can't imagine doing that now. The rules are so strict, but I guess it feels natural when the whole community is following these rules.
The reason for the "protocol" of hair and scalp checking is the prevalent custom of spending summers in Sullivan county where ticks and lice are widespread. The rulebook shows that a community culture and applied halakhah (Jewish Torah Law) can be divergent in certain areas. The young lady on YT who does the "yenta satires" will probably leave off when it comes time to arrange matches for her daughters.
7:19 Nit nurse! That’s what we call them in the UK, they used to come to school regularly to check our hair. It used to be that you stayed home until they were gone, now that doesn’t happen so children constantly get them, get rid of them, then get them again, their brother might have them and give them to his cousin who gives them to her friends…constantly going around in circles
Seeing the word falling into chaos rules are not that bad even for a pretty laid back gut like me. Refuah Shema !! Chicken soup and hot tea with lime and lot's of sleep.
I am glad you are feeling better. Stay warm and well. There is lice in public schools. Esp. in schoold where all the children in a class hang their hats and coats in one closet (lockers work better) It just tales one child. The bits will jump.
re 'kosher magazines' - I buy Mishpacha & Binah occasionally - for light reading on Shabbat/Yom Tovs - but I don't buy them every week, partly because I can't afford them and partly because they make me so annoyed. Mishpacha is slightly better as I get the Israeli English version which has more articles translated from the Hebrew version of the magazine and has more Israeli content. But I find that Binah in particular, which is a totally American publication, is full of 'gashmius' and I just don't understand who are the people who can afford to buy the things in the adverts - and as for the recipes and table decor etc... who on earth has the time for such elaborate menus, napkin folding, table presentations etc etc..? I think it must be very undermining for women who have say even 2 children, never mind a lot of children, to be faced with all this 'aspirational lifestyles' -that they have no hope whatsoever of meeting, either because of time contraints or because of finances, or of course both. Especially when they also talk about 'your bungalow colony home' and have articles and ads how to furnish and decorate it etc! Who are these people who can afford to have a second home, go away to Europe to a five star kosher resort for the summer etc etc..? especially when Jewish education in these private schools aren't cheap..and people have a lot of children.. I also of course get very annoyed by the fact that there are no pictures of women in the magazines... because it's supposedly not tznuit, even when the article is about a woman entrepreneur or a female role model. Pictures of young girl children are apparently ok, but they are often dressed in quite a sophisticated way or wearing makeup - which I find quite creepy, and much more questionable than having a picture of a woman. I also find it quite funny that a lot of pictures of 'family life' only show pictures of men with boy children, and especially in adverts - frequently pictures of two men with several boy children - I'm sure the people who design these ads etc would be horrified to know that it could give the impression to someone outside the haredi community, that the community has a lot of same sex couples.... I can quite understand why the schools would prefer that children don't read these or similar magazines....
I agree with this comment all the way. I don't know how people manage life with so much fancy upkeep and so many expenses! The world would be a better place if there was less of that. I didn't know though that the girls pictured in Bina et al wear makeup. Creepy indeed!
Thanks! Very interesting! Got to follow along in the Yiddish and practice. Satmar has nothing to be ashamed of, but if some ppl berated you THEY have a problem. Here in Israel we all grapple with the problems of cellphones and computers. The fact that I have them in my home and my kids have access, doesn’t mean that I don’t understand other viewpoints. In fact, I think chareidim might be on to something. Maybe there’s some kind of in-between approach that would be great, but unfortunately they are the ones that are the hardest to implement…. Keep up the good work and come back for another visit!
The rule about weddings is around since like 2005. We used to show up to Kabulas punim with our uniforms to be able to see our classmates gowns. (Somehow not being dressed up didn’t count)
In my experience in Australian schools teachers alert the Education Department of lice outbreaks and children are treated and families get advice on washing bedding etc and need to be free of lice before returning. A school nurse checks all children and teachers during these times.
Lice can be a problem in public schools, and we do have protocols around it. We don't do checks regularly, though, just one a child is noticed to be scratching a lot or a teacher notices nits. Just an FYI, you can also get lice even with short hair - both my boys have had lice. Is there a halakhic requirement that everyone must be free of lice? I can see if why they would check regularly if there is. There could also just be a problem in the community in general that they are trying to watch out for. With such large families, and so many gatherings, imagine lice could spread quickly.
I dont think there’s any Halachik issue with lice, except after a woman gets married and goes to the mikvah. I think it’s basic hygiene protocol. I guess you have your finger on the issue in your last point: girls playing so closely with each other pass things around really quickly.
I am not Hasidic but my girls got lice in their schools when they were younger. Sometimes I think the person checking for nits is actually inadvertently spreading them. It is prevalent in public schools.
Thank you for sharing how rules such as these have influenced your personal journey. Watching I was going to ask but decisions of faith and compliance are often personal. I hope you are feeling better. It seems the “whole world” has a cough or some other respiratory ailment. I am wondering if, in a binary world where someone born into a Hasidic sect and either stays or leaves, and the (unrealistic) reason to leave is simply the total rejection of modernity would the Rabbis prefer people to leave than to manage modernity even according to halakic principles? The three “religions of the Book:” Christianity; Judaism; and Islam have need to deal with modernity giving that “the Book” was written thousands of years ago. So even the most orthodox in each of these three who shun modernity have had to deal with modernity over, at least, since the genesis of the industrial age.
It does feel like everyone everywhere is sick! It’s a good question you ask. I think in theory staying orthodox on a modern orthodox basis is okay and highly preferred to leaving orthodoxy altogether. But the community is also so deeply anti-modernity that any deviation sets off enormous alarm bells and any modernizing can often be dealt with by family as a tragedy. (A part of this is the fear of teh slippery slope, that some modernizing will lead to the complete abandonment of the faith)
Yeah, for instance the rule that mothers are not allowed to drive (not specified in this book but a rule for Satmar Williamsburg) I believe is not enforced in Boro Park?
Refuah Shliema Frieda, hope you are 100%feeling better soon. As far as the rule booklet just wondering if the parents really read every single page, it just seems so so long. With KAH large families and so much going on who has time? !!!! I respect what they are saying in many areas. As a Lubavitcher many are the same but i don't know if any booklet , just a way of living
Yeah, I honestly doubt people read it. I always say about the stricter street posters -- most people go by them without even paying attention. The school tells the students what the rules are. The students come home and repeat it at home. So it's common knowledge... But I would guess the vast majority of parents just set it aside without reading it.
Thank you for showing this. I’m sorry it was such a bad “dejá vu feeling for you. I understand the mindset, I agree that there are some things that young children should not be exposed to, but I also think the better idea as kids reach age 14 or 16, 18 especially, the better idea is maybe to “expose” these things to older teens in a “controlled” way and educate them on why those things are not compatible with Hasidic or Jewish life. Then it would satisfy curiosity but give understanding of why such things should be avoided. Then they’d be able to reject things because they were bad and not just because a leader said not to hear or see it. I hope I’m saying this right. I think if your parents and school did that, you wouldn’t have such a bad taste in your mouth about all the rules. Maybe.
Is the Satmar school system completely unrelated / separate from the famous Bayit Ya'akov system? Do most Hassidic groups have their own educational organisation?
To both your questions: YES. Samar was created as a more frum variation of Bais Yaakov. Pretty much every important Hasidic group in Williamsburg (Pupa, Viztnitz, Vien, Klausenburg, etc) has their own school system; each with a separate system for boys and girls.
Great explanation of the eruv, perhaps you could do a video that actually shows the eruv construction to show those who have never seen one what it looks like.
@@FriedaVizelBrooklyn I can't wait to see it!! I, myself have a reasonable understanding but I know that many don't along with the halachot as to what can and can't be done within an eruv.
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I went to public school in a small town in Australia. I had a tomato for little lunch every day for 6 years and went home for lunch every day. We never had lice..ever. not sure why head lice is a problem.
Jews who aren't pro Israel is a sad way of thinking..especially now. Thank you for explaining this part of Satma that I would not know. I'm happy we have an eruv which allows us to walk with a stroller especially in Summer.
Yes, it's very sad to me, but the story of Satmar Antizionism is complicated. I hope to cover more on my channel but am always nervous about being misunderstood or weaponized by the wrong parties on such topics.
I'm not sure if I am hearing the word correctly -- sounds like "Error" or "Arab" (lol, sorry) -- something about carrying. Or is it "arrow"?? I liked some of the previous vides you've done where you put up the correct spelling and meaning of these words. So informative. Thank you for all you're doing.
I think this society depends on cities to sustain itself. For instance, being in cities makes it very walkable on shabbes. There are enormous economic benefits. But yes, it leads to -- irony of ironies -- living in the cities of the headquarters of temptations!
That's how communities outside the city came to be -- KJ, New Square, Monsey, Lakewood all happened as a way to remove ourselves from exactly those issues. But now those communities have become large as well.
I recently discovered your videos and am working my way through them with interest. They describe mostly a very strict way of life which wouldn't suit the majority of the population, and I am drawn to admire those who choose to live this way with some exceptions. There seems to me to be very few ways to participate in enjoyable pastimes especially for children, for instance no mention of games like tennis or hockey, swimming, gymnastics, ballet or singing /dancing lessons all of which would not be considered sinful to even the most religious non Jewish parents. Which begs the question ...why? so what is the process by which something becomes "forbidden" and is it ever challenged.
