The SABOTAGE of Kim Chungha (exposing mnh) 

Yea, she's still got potential despite how far into her career. She's not even releasing music because it's her job, she's actually still being pretty creative with each new era and showing more new sides to her.

I bet the other girls sabotaged her and used their weight th block her. American singers do that all the time.

How did this happen when IU's bleuming cd is number 1 then. She is even pitted against herself making her songs #1 & #2 at the same time in 2019.

@@soonsuicidal Well Chungha was the most streamed female solo act on spotify that year, she won all best female artist awards and bonsangs of 2019. She became the first female solo to get a song certified platinum on Gaon. Had a total 13 music show wins in 2019, the most for a female solo in a year btw. Also, it's not just ranking digital points because IU is a digital monster, it's more about who made more impact that year. And every idol and korean gp knew the lyrics and choreo to gotta go that year, and they still do.

​@@kyladyer2855What other girls?

Yea, idk what the reaction was for Korean viewers but it was a whole different concept that now thinking about it suits Chungha so much. Idk if this would be a good comparison but you should list to Nuh Uh by Chungha. I wanna say that's like the child or nephew of Stay Tonight.

ISTG I LITERALLY HAD IT ON LOOP FOR A MONTH WHEN IT CAME OUT T-T IT’S JUST TOOOOOO GOOD-

I'm responsible for at least a million of the choreo video views - idk how royalties work in Korea but I'm hoping since it's on her own channel it counts as a perfomace and she gets some more money for it than the song alone

It should have been promoted as a pre release and then dream of you as an English title track and PLay as a title track with 10 of the songs. With full promos she could have done much better. Really sad that BVNDIT was disbanded too, I think the losses from BVNDIT really killed MNH

Yea, I do wonder what would have happened if Chungha just split Querencia into four seperate comebacks and with four mini albums because firstly; way better promotional stages, and also with each comeback there was a different style of dancing but concept so once again; exploring artistically without risking such a big release with only one song getting that relatively proper promotion.

Yea, despite her influence and legacy she has made for herself, I defs think promotions need to continue like she's still upcoming because being a soloist really is harder than being in a group. It really is just picking a good agency though. Got any ideas of who though?

@@cloudchungxiao Yeah, being a soloist is extremely hard to pull off. Who else really is successful? IU, but she writes her own songs. Tayeon, but she had the fandom of GG/SNSD and was able to continue with that fan-base. @Kent Vesse suggested HYBE and I would agree that ADOR (who has NewJeans) would be most likely. I think JYPE would treat her much better and provide the ability to promote her both in Korean/English, however as he also pointed out in his comment that JYPE like SM tend to stay in-house. Sunmi is at Abyss, Somi at Black Label. Neither are big companies, but at least they know how to promote solo artists. (Black Label is a sub-unit of YG).

Black Label know how to promote artist?? What example do you have that because all I hear is about the dungeon that their artist is in. But yea, Abyss was another idea or even Big Planet Made which is Viviz's home. High Up Ent would be cute. Idk about HYBE because I don't think i hear mucha bout them signing with people as they tend to train to debut instead. But yea, that's like good connection to gain more fame like how Fromis 9 really popped off after the switch. As for JYPE, I can't imagine them with soloist and plus they really specialise in girl groups especially. But yea, another company that is easy free attention

@@cloudchungxiao You know more than I so will defer to you on this. And, alas, it seems Black Label isn't doing much with Somi anymore either, so I'll retract that recommendation. In any event I think we are all agreed that she is way too talented to not find a good home. Yes, she has great visuals and dance, but her vocals are as good as anyone in the game and what really makes her stand out IMHO.

Omg yea, I mean during IOI, they had Yeonjung and Sejeong so she wasn’t utilised like that. But her OST of I love you, I remember you was absolute legendaric. Plus she’s given her voice to so many OST. Defs should get recognised for her singing but her dance is really stellar too. But yea, she does want to eventually do an album release where there isn’t much dancing. Like she wants to get to a point where she gets recognised for her voice.

Potentially though. I was just thinking that she really doesn't follow too much of the trends so it'll kinda be a big risk with each comeback in that positive reception will fluctuate but yea her name would still be out there and she would be even more of an innovator and influence to the future generations

I still believe she's one of THE soloists

And she'll bounce back now that we've got confirmation of her departure date

Yea, she paid her mother's debt, and uplifted MNH and for some reason that wasn't enough to not be a target of sabotage from that same company??

She literally built that company up. What a shame

Exactly, literally no one before her. She was the OG senior artist of MNH. Plus the fact that she can even be called a senior artist from a company size like MNH, that also says a lot too

A lot of small companies do that and I don’t know why. Like RBW- Mamamoo is literally the reason they have a big building and money now. They used to do their own makeup and choreo and mix their own songs, and rbw would have power outages often. Now they are big and ignore Mamamoo for most of the year with minimal promotions. Chungha deserves so much more and is so very talented, I really hope she gets a proper company when she leaves.

@@stephpies3 probably lack of experience in how to handle that situation which results in the company in trying to spread the fame they get from the first artist onto new fresh ones as Kpop is usually fairly short lived (groups more so than soloists, which is why chunghas case is even more tragic than MMM) but in that process due to a still somewhat numbered budget failing to properly allocate it and basically putting all their bets on the new uncertain card. I can see somewhat why it happens, doesn't mean it sucks any less. I think it would happen less if there was less of a pressure of having young idols only

Period!! Her stylists NEVER miss.

Honestly though. Very few times where she looks bad.

@@cloudchungxiao I mean 👁👄👁 she didn't look bad because she's beautiful af but we can say she didn't look extraordinarily beautiful a few times.

Hahaha yea, I mean her stylist just knows how to elevate her appeal even more.

Bvndit really did. Still remember the video of them being nominated against NUEST. Like they were actually building up pretty decent hype for themselves only for that comeback to be last before the long hiatus they were thrown in without even trying to do other promotional things. And yea, Chungha still has so much potential and so it's really finding the right company

Ohh for sure, as long as the company can support her in doing this then she good. She's created such a legacy for herself where she can still make noise. But just not sure how strong it is considering the lack of promotions so its kinda hard to gage this.

Idk if it's because they're not in kpop, but the two soloist should have disappeared if we talking profitable and favorite. But yea, defs made so much space for a new boy group because they really didn't do much with Chungha. Plus yea, Sparkling had remnants of her summer fresh concept that she started off so that why it could have garnered more attention. But she's released some of her part 2 through performances elsewhere

BVANDIT disbanded ??? seriously ?? 😭

What the HELL I had no idea that bvndit disbanded. I’m so upset they were so talented. I really had hope they would get their time to shine 😢

Omg that is so sad that y'all didn't hear about that. But yea, they disbanded a few months after their Venom comeback

Yea, CL was majorly screwed by YG. And what's worse is the power dynamic. Like literal ego things because small things can make people do the most pettiest things. Like think about how legenderic 2NE1 was and then CL was getting so buzzed with attention BUT you didn't want to capitalize off this attention and instead did a pretty poor job because of what?

Actually though. 2019 was her peak in popularity, but 2020/2021 was her peak so far musically. There was so much good releases within Querencia. Glad she's only got one month left with MNH plus with her appearance in Mexico in August; I'm wondering is this her doing her own things as a free agent or has she already got some thing lined up and she's already prepared with a new agency??

Honestly though. Like I can kinda get MNH in that if you want a hyped crowd, you play your most popular songs so you get easy clout. However, how are you gonna market the other songs and get them some love to if all you do is constantly replay the same songs. It's kinda like if Brave Girls were only booked to play Rollin and that's it. Like that's just giving milking one-hit wonder of you discography when you can promote other stellar b-sides. And Also, I can soo agree to that. Not based on defintion, but what I think of like idols and artist is that artist are pretty into the music and like actually perform. Idols are along the lines of influencer kinda there to do their jobs and so that's one thing I hope we can see from Chungha. Closer to the end of her MNH era, I feel like that's when she was able to actually evolve and become an artist with Bare and Rare pt 1 and Querencia.

@@cloudchungxiao @cloudchungxiao EXACTLY ! they be milking same songs to the point it makes her look like a one hit wonder when she easily can not be that, you said everything! lets hope for the best

Yea, if you have the confidence to approve songs in an album then surely theres confidence that they would maybe be able to perform it too. For Chungha's case, Chica, Flying on Faith, any of the pre-releases from Querencia's or even from the latest album to atleast get proper promotion. Like there's such a long list of potential songs that she could easily perform and get the crowd hype. People really feel the vibes of the performance and so even if the song might not be as well known, her stage presence just has the power to make people curious

This. I saw her at Head in the Clouds and you could tell that her team DID NOT prepare a set list appropriate for that festival, let alone make a custom mix or do something creative. She was also noticeably discontent. You could tell she wasn't confident in her set. They literally just picked the top safest songs and it was boring tbh. I fully expected her to open with XXXX but the only song they played from Bare and Rare was Sparkling... Like you said, she has a discography large enough to fit whatever space she's performing in and MNH didn't take any care in her performance to ~30,000 people

@@jameshartman5114 I saw her at MIK in London in summer 2022 and I think you could tell the team she was with was very small and in her immediate circle, ie. no major MNH people there/organising it. She did a more diverse setlist, seemed a lot happier, and spoke quite freely about the company being lame (lmao), and performed a bare & rare pt2 song - if memory serves, she even dragged them over the release date/postponement thing. She also seemed SO SHOCKED that people knew her and her music, including the b-sides, even though plenty of people were there literally just for her. Hoping that was a really good experience for her and 1) she comes back to Europe on a tour and 2) keeps the confidence she got from it, especially from being there on her own with less MNH interference. I think it shows MNH don't have a clue, but she, and the people in her corner, really do know what they're doing. Fingers crossed we see some direction once she escapes.

Yea, that's that scary thing. I'm pretty biased with her because she's my ult. But I do wonder how the korean public perceive her in relation to money-making and sales as of 2023. Like I think she's legendary and will do well with the right company, but there is a slight chance that she could be seen as a one-year wonder in 2019 that not as much people might sought after her. But also, she's had such a good image this whole time that its like you can guarantee a pretty decent artist who is basically controversy free.

Omg, I can also feel your pain too because I literally did a video on P-Nation and their artist so I've heard about her case a bit. But yea, it's a real shame and literally what you said. Hopefully they find the proper company that'll support them in the way they want to thrive

Omg yea, Songhee starting Jungle though. But yea, that was so BM of them to treat them like that. Like I get the pandemic and all that but you could have informed fans or like even keep them maintaining their socials to give us some activity. Didn't have to be a high production but just a way to keep the crowd supporting them. There music was so good too and so it's so sad to see them end like this.

I mean it really do be hard for soloist though. No matter the influence, they kinda just aint doing numbers like the average group which is a big thing of consideration for companies which sucks.

Yea, I do wonder about her "team." Don't know how much of a gage this is but the only "kpop" in MNH would be 8turn and their debut album received no help from any of Chungha's usual producers and lyricist. Plus depending on connections and all that, Chungha's influence might be stronger that they could be still keen to work with her as long as she can get settled in a company.

Don't worry since chungha is somewhat very popular companies will defo line up to get her under them nd not all small companies are bad tho there are some small companies tht are able to finance their artist besides she's a soloist their company sabotaged them there's no way ur financially unable take care for a soloist but can end up debuting a whole 8 or 9 member grp out of nowhere

She sings in English perfectly as well as Korean. I wonder if Black Label where Somi is would know how best to promote her, though JYPE would be great as they have a huge marketing/promotion team and tend to treat their artists better than most labels. Alas it's extremely hard to make it as a soloist as you know.

@@hefeibao My concern with Black Label/YG is they already have a bad track record of having artists sit idle for long periods, which Chungha cannot afford to do if she has hopes of getting back to where she was. She needs to sign with a new agency and get a fresh EP out within three months of the announcement, and then likely comeback in another 3 to 6 months with another EP or album, so she can get some momentum back. She also needs to get on tour even if it is just club dates in the US and Europe. Somi has been idle for nearly a year and a half and there is still no word on when she may have new music coming out. In the four years she has been with Black Label she has only released a total of 5 songs. That just isn't acceptable label support. It's really sad that Black Label apparently damn near begged Somi to join them, but has done so little with her since then. Either that shows that Teddy has bit off more than he can chew running that label and in proper YG fashion refuses to delegate or bring in outside help, or Somi is difficult to work with. I am hoping it is the former rather than the latter. At least in Somi's case, she is young enough that if Black Label was a bad career move, she can wait on that contract and be a free agent again before she is in her mid-20's. However, IOI is getting further in the rearview mirror and if she continues to languish at Black Label she might struggle to find a good company. When Somi signed with Black Label there was a lot of excitement around that label, but time has show it has the very same problems as its parent, YG. It's a shame how this industry works sometimes and how many talented artists end up having a promising career ruined or heavily damaged. Ailee's situation looks a lot like Chungha's and Ailee has never recovered from those last couple disastrous years at her original label where they basically put her in the dungeon. She's an afterthought now unless you were into K-pop when she was at her peak.

@@kentvesser9484 You are 100% spot on with your assessment. While I can dream that both Somi & Chungha both find decent labels, history has been very unkind to solo artists. Tayeon stated with GG and still has SM behind her and IU writes her own songs and is a bit of a Korean Taylor Swift. Then there is everyone else. IIRC someone did an analysis that even in groups, larger groups tend to do better than smaller groups because there is a great chance of someone appealing to someone. I would think that's why soloists have an even harder time. Her best bet honestly is to be an anchor of a group. I say this as if you look at Mamamoo and even Red Velvet, the artists have the freedom to do solo tracks or mini-albums but then still come together as a group to sell volume. (thought: If you step back that is the same formula Marvel has with the MCU). TL/DR: she is on a clock and the longer she goes without releasing material the less likely to come back.

Yea, her next company just need to give her proper promotions that can help continue to elevate her. Chungha's got a bit of recognition with her name so that's a great start but it's about the regular interaction with the community to solidify more of a fanbase. I think a small company could do her well as long as they can make the investment into Chungha's career but obviously there is that risk of like not being financially stable enough to help. But yea, it really depends on where she foes and how fast they can act before her hype gets completely lost.

Ohh damm, was this relatively recent?

@@cloudchungxiao it was last year in October at KAMP LA

Ohh damm; she really going to all the KAMP's hahaha. But yess, not tooo long til she's free though and surely; we'll see her bounce back

Oooo momoland fan. Question; did you like Yummy Yummy Love? I really did but like it went real quiet in that idk if there was much promotion to it. But yea, her ability to captivate a crowd though. Like how has she not had a full solo concert for herself. She has a crap ton of songs and also many collabs so it could be a whole collab fest too. Like the amount of opportunities.

Well, obviously her English is very good considering she lived in Texas for 8 years before her K-POP days... (I will never get over the fact her English name is Annie Kim. She does NOT feel like an Annie).

HAHAHAHA yea, when I see her; she really does not give Annie vibes.

Ohh yea for sure. I mean it's too early to make a call about 8turn which will be there only money maker and potentially Matthew Seok depending on how he does in Boys Planet, but they really losing a gem because of there incompetence.

Exactly; I mean idk the logistics and profitability of her; but she's been the money maker so it makes no sense to get keep her in such a hiatus if you dont want to make a profit.

Yea, honestly though. This video has popped off a lot considering how lowkey small I am so if we can also have that same energy for when she makes her next comeback, it'll kinda be like a fun way to show her the strong support she will still have.

@@cloudchungxiao Sure, I have a small team in Pakistan. I and my friends share her content and promote her on a small scale whenever we get a chance👏🏻🍷

Ohh nice, don't really have a community or team where I'm from so thought this video would help I guess. But yea, hoping the best for sure for her

Omg yea, I did have an idea of a short to make of Chungha has kinda done to influence the kpop industry because she's done a lot in her career span. She really deviates from making music for the trends and really just does her thing

@@cloudchungxiao yes you can tell CHUNG HA is an artist, she is doing it for the art and passion, not like some others

Actually though. When you think of artistic creativity and not for the clout and popularity; she's really up there with all her new ideas and ways to express herself without just following trends

Yea, Querencia as an album is pretty up there in best albums for me but it did get a bad rep for its weird promotion tactics and the "controversial" title track of bicycle. Been seeing HYBE's name being thrown around for Chungha but the only way I can see that happening is if HYBE acquires the company she joins because yea I have yet to see HYBE properly sign an established artist. But yea, she could start to generate more hype slowly if she did tours which hopefully wherever she goes, that's one of those first few things they will try to accomplish within the first few years.

Yea, I mean Kang Daniel is pretty crazy in popularity. Despite like me not following him, I know he has a strong fanbase that comes together for anything he does. Chungha has kinda that but not to the extent of Kang Daniel so I would be kinda scared she could fall into a Hyolyn situation where starting her own company might be too much and then she just wont be able to release as frequently.

Omg pls no hahaha, she's still got time to hopefully recover and bounce back with her next moves. But yea, Bvndit was progressively doing well that it literally was so weird for them to just throw them into a hiatus. Plus Chungha too. Like they were doing the most without doing the most. Like, it's great she had so many releases but you also gotta promote them too. It aint any good just existing without much attention if MNH is trying to recoup back money. But omg yea, ngl as of now, I think the only person to come unscathed from IOI curse might just be Yeonjung in terms of a musical career. WJSN looks hopefuly with their renewal but we'll see how they are treated considering what felt like an abandonment from Starship leading towards the contract renewal statement. Plus they got IVE too so how much attention will really go towards them compared to maybe solo activities for the members. But yea, BIG feels bad for Somi and Weki Meki

There ain’t no I.o.I curse 😂

Produce Curse?? It's that whole theory about post-produce groups not doing well

@@cloudchungxiao I’m def glad that most of WJSN renewed and the company stated that the other Korean members are still considered a part of the group. I would’ve been surprised if the group had disbanded. But I think they’ll focus on solo endeavors while Starship focuses on IVE. And Chung Ha absolutely has what it takes to rebuild her career! Personally, I really liked “Bicycle” (it was one of my most listened to songs of 2021 lol) and “Killing Me” (I wish it had been promoted properly. So, give her a good producer and an actual promo team and she’ll be good to go! It sucks though that Bvndit is gone. They had so much promise. I’m wishing 8Turn all the luck in the world given their company’s history 🙏

Yea, just did a slight section on Cosmic girls for my queendom two video. Not sure if they'll get as much promo but we'll see how it goes for the next year and a bit. I wanna see whether they'll get promo whether gorup or solo because that might indicate whether they renewed to try stay together or whether they actually got faith in starship despite IVE's success. OMG yea, plus with the proper announcement of CHUNGHA's DEPARTURE. It's not too long before we see her free to find a company that better aligns with her goals

Yea, she's got a schedule in August so maybe that means she's still got a bit more longer??

@@cloudchungxiao august😢 bad news

Reading this; im a little confused. She's got her schedule but also shes gone from MNH at the end of April CONFIRMED. Sooooo, she already signed with a new agency??

Ohh yea; I was suprised how much they were providing Chungha despite being unknown. The pandemic did play an impact on the little appearances; but MNH did definitely do not much to mitigate and work around this as much. They pumped out pre-releases but it kinda does not do much if you can't back it up with proper promo. She's got a few weeks left in MNH though so hopefully onto new beginnings

Ohh yea, definitely not the end of the road for her. Potentially pull a 2019 with back to back solid comebacks for the general public and she could once again claim that throne. But yea, MNH was trying to cut corners in investing into her first full album and it stated getting really noticeable

Omg actually though. One thing that is so amazing about Chungha is that she's so versatile and literally is willing to do something that's different. Querencia is an example of just trying out different concepts with still pretty decent cohesion. But yea, for her most recent album. Nuh Uh and XXXX is literally so good. Plus the way it starts off with glass breaking because the last era was Querencia and the album cover was cracked glass. So she starts with the sound of the glass officially breaking to signal the start of a new era, like geniusness.

saaame, only followed gg in kpop, and chungha now the exception

Actually though. the lead up was pretty bad. They were putting in so little effort with trying to get the album more attention. Luckily she had a normal music show promotion with Sparkling but just in general, it felt like crickets during the gap between Querencia and Bare and Rare. I feel she had lowkey way more overseas promotions than domestic promotions which is wild because even her overseas ones were pretty limited

Yess, not sure how much freedom she has been able to have in her music but artistically, she's pretty up there for soloist.

Yea, I mean I can't be too sure but I feel like MNH is being petty af by making her wait til her complete contract time is done before she can leave. They wanna sabotage her in a way where if they can't have her, they wanna ruin her so no one else can really profit off her. Like, if you really aren't gonna promote them, and they've already made you money, what's the point of keeping them if you know you got nothing left with them.

The icon that is rollercoaster though. One of the dominating songs of Kpop in 2018 esp for the domestic market

Yea, Chungha's success literally funded Bvndit's career, 8turn's career and the other two soloist. Like what were they really thinking?

@@cloudchungxiao after all they mismanage chungha for what chungha bring company needs.

Yea, the question is do you think much would change if they only had Chungha this whole time? I do wonder that considering that means all the attention would go towards her and so maybe better?? Because they can kinda risk a bit. But then if they did then also we wouldn’t have gotten Bvndits music and 8turn too which all are pretty good

Omg yea, at first it was kinda weird to me. Like I was getting it but not really but I just heard it a few months ago and Killing Me kinda clicked for me. It was a special single so once again, they really didn't promote this song. But YESSS, what's your fav bare and rare song?

That would be an interesting concept tbh. But also that would kinda require companies to put in verys similar efforts to the B-Sides which some kpop artists should be alg with. But yea, it's very the droplet era right now where unless you're established, it looks better if you only dropped mini albums or even single albums which Aespa and IVE have been doing when they debuted.

Omg, yea what did happen with GFRIEND though??? Like they were still popping off and then a random announcement of disbandment. Idk if they were sabotaged because they were still doing well so can't tell if that was a BUDDY movement or whether Source Music was helping promote them.

Yea, I'm not sure about the 88rising thing. It could also be a MNH thing in which they're not really allowing her to perform on the 88rising stages too. But yea, I do wonder what MNH think is there plans after Chungha though. Like I get they still have active artist but that's such a risk for how relatively new or unknown most of them are.

Kind of honestly. Brave Ent I can see. Not sure about MLD ent though since they debuted many groups after. MLD just seemed very messy though and kept making so much mistakes

Ohh yea, she really did starting developing her own craft later on in her career but it can truly be seen. That's also kinda one of those big risk though in that artistic freedom is subjective and can be very hit or miss.

Yea; it will depend on what she decides to do but I feel like she ahs the ability to bounce back

I think it was planned in advance and so no one really anticipated the pandemic and thus they kinda mustered on despite all that crap that was going on because they committed to this ambitious project. But yea, considering how ambitious they were with all these MVs, they could have done a bit more in terms of proper promotions because they really could have continued to make noise for her right until her release but they just said yea nah. But yea, Bvndit can be a whole other discussion in itself but yea really unfortunate to see how far MNH has fallen

Ohhh definitely not. She will be able to score another agency to help her but hopefully it's a better one where they can just properly understand each other well.

Hahaha actually though. One thing that Chungha's team has excelled in is her styling

Ohh nice, really like Sunmi and Jessi too, what are you fav songs from them?

@@cloudchungxiao Sunmi ? 24 hours / pporappippam / Gashina / heroin /siren / you can’t sit with us / Noir 🔥 Jessi who dat B / ssenunni / drip / / nunu nana / type of X and Ganji 😄

Ohh nice, I like Star, Numb and Cold Blooded by Jessi and Heart Burn and Siren by Sunmi

Honestly though. She impact that she has had with so much people. Like it really shouldn’t be going like this

@@cloudchungxiao she is unstoppable, she is a universally creative and talented person who wants one thing - to be with her fans and create new music. I pray for her every day. As a big fan of hers, it hurts me to see her in this bad position for 3 years with her worst company

SHE'S CONFIRMED LEAVING IN A MONTH SO NOT TOO LONG TO GO

@@cloudchungxiao AAAAAA, WE WONNNNNN

@@cloudchungxiao 😭😭😭😭

Yea, soloist don't get as much support as groups. Like I get the whole you have a better chance of finding someone you like in a group as oppose to having to potentially like a soloist but still, they still are so legit. Like the only soloist i can see that transcend this lack of support in soloist constantly would be IU and Taeyeon and those two literally had many years to build all that up

Ohh yea, ngl. The album cover lowkey was kinda a shock to me hahaha. Like I've learnt to appreciate it but defs doesn't scream the Chungha that I imagined. Plus the whole concept of Querencia, like idk if that really encapsulates in the album cover and all that. But yea, despite the music in Querencia being really good, the whole promotion for it was a mess.

​@@cloudchungxiao yeah 100% agree! not at all what anyone expected tbh. tysm for making this video btw i haven't seen anyone bringing much awareness to chungha's mistreatment! hopefully we will get justice for our girl this year🥲

Ohh hell yea, I may have miscalculated things though. Not sure when her contract should be up now with the recent announcement of her participation at KAMP Mexico in August. Can't tell whether she signed in 2016 with IOI or 2017 as a soloist and which they will take as her "start"

Best comeback and MV probably but yea not may fav title track. As for sparkling, yea it wasn't what I woud have wanted but I really didn't mind it. It was her attempt to revist her rookie days when she was popping off with really summery songs. But yea, look into bare and rare which is the album for Sparkling and you can see some good potential title tracks songs. One that I can already see her generating buzz is Nuh Uh which she talked about an idea of doing a performance video with a hanbok stylistic choice which would have been buzz worthy considering the nationalistic pride that Koreans would have had. Plus it gives off Stay Tonight's cousin vibes so it could have been her redemption to being able to do actual promotions with a concept like that.

YESSSS, I'm pretty sure she'll know she has the support but we'll just have to show her that it was her that we were following and not MNH when she does what she does.

Omg yea, someone made a comment about Matthew Seok. Not sure if you watch Boys Planet, but he's got so much popularity but he's also in MNH too. But yea, it's always the terrible companies where they have great artist or trainees. like even with Cube, I still support G-Idle despite what has happened so far with the mistreatment of basicall most of their artist. Plus I stan Chowon too so despite the terrible company that is Cube, I want to still lift up Chowon's career as much as I can

Yea, I mean small companies are more likely to go in debt if they wanna debut groups. Another thing that Chungha did was that her activites allowed MNH to upgrade their building too. But yea, it's the idea that the profit gained from Chungha's activities has meant MNH now makes money and so instead of reinvesting in Chungha, it's going to other people like now 8turn. In terms of the current market, I mean it's been dominated by female monster rookie groups so not sure whether you mean theres's an opportunity for boy groups since they're all kinda not making as much noise. But regardless, there was pretty average noise coming from their debut so I guess we'll just see whether MNH's new investment will takeoff because that will now be there money-maker

Kq literally had block b small company where?

Yea, not sure how that works. Block B made there own company in 2013 but became a sub label for KQ in 2016 when KQ were also formed. Plus not sure about Block B as a group so don't know if they were making waves during the whole 2016 onwards era to be making bank or nah

YESSSS, the only thing on her to do list is to get out of MNH ASAP

Yea, MNH really sabotaging and staying silent on Chungha. It's so unfortunate but hopefully she can just leave ASAP and start fresh in a better environment.

Bvndit's mismanagement was wild. I could honestly seem them as a WJSN/StayC hybrid of like they would slowly garner much success with each comeback just because of how different they were and still so shining. But then that 2 year hiatus was so weird and then after Seungeun came back from Girls Planet, they didn't really do much until many months later.

@@cloudchungxiao It's true, BVNDIT was a group of the type that retains its previous base and increases its fandom with each comeback. However, they were completely ignored since September 2020. According to Yiyeon, in a fancafe letter that MNH deleted, the company was in a time of change and they would put BVNDIT on hiatus to give priority to more profitable artists (Chungha)... but they even took away "Monday Radio", their weekly stream on Vlive and it is suspected that they were evicted from the bedroom in early 2021. In fact, Seungeun's participation in "Girls Planet 999" was a personal decision, since the company he did not summon them and they filled their time studying university degrees. Something similar happened in their last comeback, except "Venom", all the songs of "RE:Original" were recorded or composed 3 years ago... and they promoted very little. Chungha must escape from there or her career will be ruined too.

Made sense about how 2020 was a big focus on Chungha considering it was the big year of many pre-releases and lead up to Querencia but what's wild is that they could have given Bvndit a comeback in 2021 when Chungha would have her downtime to recover after such big release but nothing. Little things like Monday Radio would have been a safety net for bvnditbuls to know that they doing alright but yea, to think MNH was wasting their time, like literally so weird

Yea, Im like lowkey torn about that because 8Turn and Matthew Seok but yea hope MNH get there karma

Yea, really enjoying that she gets to take a break. She's still getting booked so that's absolute vibes but yea. Sounds like the minute she signs with a company, she'll be able to release Bare and Rare part 2 from what I've seen

She really was. Less than three weeks before she leaves MNH so thats good and she still got atleast one schedule within this year announced so that's great things too

Yea, I mean SM really is creative with their music so I could see that. But SM really is a trainee based company and dont really sign established artist much. Plus with what has been going on, they are doing a lot of changes which idk if Chungha would want to be a guinea pig for what they do.

Ohh yea, Killing Me was a special single which not even sure what that means but it always had no intent to promote which sucks because why not capitalise from any remaining hype that was Querencia or just wait til they can promote. But yea, she makes MUSIC so defs hope to see her continue

She's back though. Signed with Morevision, doing a radio show, performing more on domestic festivals and so there's more hope for her future. I can see her building herself back up. But yea, her impact can't be denied despite maybe not having that big of a fanbase.

The actual dream though. Watch as we see Chungha's karma hit MNH in the face though. We'll see her bounce back while MNH looks in jealousy

Ayyy, my number one ult honestly, When did you find out about her?

Yea, Idk if there is a proper like best and no fault company. It's kinda weighing your options. But in Abyss, Bambam is coming out with a full album so it's kinda looking pretty decent that the artist do continue to get support

nooooo not Abyss, they've turned into a dungeon recently - we haven't had sunmi music in a long time. the only upside is they let her tour pretty widely and frequently

Ohh damm really? Had to look into this and damm, she's been with Abyss for a while. 6 Years starting with Gashina as their first release. But yea, her releases aren't as consistent which is not the best, but I think she's making so much appearance though which idk I guess is subjective in whether that's okay to compensate for the lack of music

Actually though, luckily she's gonna be out of MNH by the end of the month. But yea, it's like a mixture of the pandemic impacts that messed up the promotions. But it feels like they really didn't even try to promote these pre-releases. Like if you were to give them videos; why not do the most with these pre-releases. Like even if we had less pre-releases to promote a certain few. That would have created way more attention than just doing what they did. But also suprisingly; awards shows really kidna neglected the quality of Querencia or the releases that we made that far. Like did we not see the same thing hahaha

Yesss, my delusional self hopes that she catches wind of the amount of support she gets or atleast she can feel the same amount of positive energy in these comments.

Nah, actually though. There's gotta be more to why MNH gave up on Bvndit. Like I get COVID, but to be in the top 2 ranking for a music show win and one of the more prestigious ones, like they were gaining so much recognition domestically. Even if it was just a comeback a year while MNH get back to where they were. But yea, also saw a thread about the mistreatment of Chungha and in one of her bubble messages, Chungha shared how she and the Bvndit members or with just Yiyeon had a meal together talking crap about MNH hahaha. Like it was that bad

Yea, they whole lead up took a while and was very unique compared to the normal promotion cycle for a title track. I feel like she was supposed to release it all within a year but something for sure happened plus then her covid diagnosis. It just was all really unfortunate

OMG THE ANNOUNCEMENT HAS BEEN MADE, T-MINUS ONE MONTH

@@cloudchungxiao my girl 😭😭😭🤧🤧🤧

Hahaha yea; hopefully we get get some exciting news within the upcoming months for signing somewhere so she could maybe even drop bare and rare pt 2. The way MNH worded it makes me kinda lowkey hopeful

@@cloudchungxiao amen🙏 all love for Chungha ❤️🤧

Hahaha, one of the first dances I try to learn because of how addicting it was

YESSSS, with the recent news coming out about her; her leaving date might be pushed further out

Hopefully, though. It really is 50/50 in whether her senior status is like legendaric and she will still thrive (Taeyeon) or like "you're old" vibes and people will only kinda just support her early days (Park Bom)

Yea, one thing about Chungha is that you can't deny her stage prescense. Plus these days most of her concert appearances, you can hear her actually singing live and so that's a further treat that you really dont get to see which makes the experience even more better.

Omg yesss, Demente but spanish version though. Like no one is doing it like her.

Early 2020 I Believe although I could be wrong

@@bakasso8484 that long ago??? i feel old 🫠

I think Stay Tonight is a pre-comeback song. An early release.

Yea, a pre-release in 2020. It really was so different but so good. Hahaha can I even say this? but I feel like Chungha kinda brought back voguing and tutting to the kpop sphere.

Ohh for sure, she isn't gone gone. I think she'll probably either have a plan ready or she'll take a small break before deciding her next steps.

Yea, they really tried to ride the wave of 2019 hardcore. Well that's what I think because the lack of ramped up promotion to solidify the success in 2020 was wild. In saying that, there was the pandemic which may have restricted the amount of appearances she could make but just doing things to lift up her appearances still even if they were pre-releases. Like i get they were pre-releases and so maybe they placed more emphasis on the title but they also created MV's for most of them so allocating some towards promoting them elsewhere could have turned a worldwide issue into less of an issue for them

YESSS, She's really out here thriving more.

Oh so you're kinda related to her 😮?

^^ My exact same thought. But actually though, her story of just almost kinda leaving this whole idea of a career because she felt bad continually taking money. Like she has done so much and should be proud of where she has come from to where she is now

From what I know so far, I think we've heard like three of te songs from bare and rare part 2. But yea, MNH's statement on Chungha is making me hopeful that despite them not releasing it; Chungha might still have the capabilities to release it in some form. The wording was very ambiguous

Hahahaha absolute whiplash. She really can pull any concept and make it work.

Ohh yea, that's one thing I maybe can't fault them with. MNH has good music makers that they find for their groups. 8Turn really has pretty good music for their debut and so I'm lowkey excited to see their future releases. But it does hurt because if you support them, then you support MNH lowkey and it's like blerghhh. But yea, I mean we'll also see how they do because they'll be the money maker for MNH so success and all that will be important to maintain their career now with basically barely anyone left in their label.

Honestly though. It makes no sense how they can just throw Chungha to the side like that after lifting them up to the extent that she did.

Yea, I totally see where you're coming from. It just feels like the norm that companies put so much effort into the actual comeback song compared to the b-sides so that's why a good chunk of people usually wait for the actual comeback. But yea, she did drop a crap of pre-releases with very little promotion so that didn't help as much

Great video nonetheless!

Great video nonetheless!

Thanks, plus the MIK festival I was refering to was the London one in 2022. I know she did one this year in Paris but Bare and Rare part 2 was originally gonna be scheduled for a 2022 release

@@cloudchungxiao Wait, so the second part was supposed to be released right after Part 1? Damn. 😐

Relevancy and success, she's up there but maybe not as much with a commited fanbase and popularity yet. As for Iz*one soloist, they're all pretty new into their career-ish so I do wanna see there trajectory. But yea, Eunbi and Chaeyeon have done not the best despite being the main two who were predicted to go solo. Yena's doing not bad. Not sure about Yuri though.

?? Is Kard doing bad? I know they've been on a bit of a hiatus these past years because of J Seph in military enlistment but gunshot and ring the alarm were all pretty good songs and they've made a bit of a resurgence. Kinda been a while since they comeback but DSP got acquired by RBW so there might just be a small obstacle of trying to figure out how to mange all of that??

Yea, I mean she really has been under promoted so kinda makes sense since most of her listeners are mostly general public i feel

Yea, during the pandemic, they signed on Lim Sang-hyun and Vvon so it was one of those things where it's like 2020 should have been a good sign for you to slow your ropes. But they went full blazing with their ego. So not even sure how badly impacted they were. But yea, they really should have solidified Chungha's fame before even trying to start anything else. Now that I'm thinking about it too. Even with Bvndit, Chungha really only had rollercoaster and so debuting Bvndit would have been a big risk but luckily that same year Chungha popped off.

@@cloudchungxiao Yup, exactly! Judging by what they decided to do mid-pandemic, I can clearly see through their incompetence. And I don't think I am the only one. I just hope Chungha gets into a better company where she can be busy being an artist and not role-playing the CEO, trying to do their job as they had her do in MNH. Plus, it's sad enough that they debut artists with no prior thought, risking failing them in the long run, they are also being disrespectful to their senior artists and the one act that put them on the map. It goes to show how unprepared they were to handle Chungha as an artist...

Yea, they really wasted all that money Chungha made them on poor decisions and it feels like they didn't even try to learn from it. But yea, hopefully the next company does her way better.

Hahaha another hit like gotta go or for her to gotta go out of MNH?

Hahaha nice, for me it was gotta go. Must have been such a wild experience though. Rapping, flying, dance break, and the MV was an experience too. Like all done by a soloist is such a crazy thing.

Wow the way that you manifested her bbl update. She kinda announced her official departure and statements of what's to come last week-ish, but said that she'll be on a bit of a hiatus until she signs on with a new company. Then today, she gave an update and said she was in Texas hanging with some of her fam.

@@cloudchungxiao She’s in Texas?

Yea, visiting family I think. Haven't seen what she was talking about during her bbl but she's kinda vibing there.

Ohh yea; music is subjective so trying out diff things can real be a hit or miss. But one thing that I hope most people agree is that her styling is always on point.

I feel like lowkey her part 2 will just kinda be released once she gets into her new company. Not sure if they will try promote that and might wait for a proper fresh start to start doing that. But OMG can she sell out venues. She's at a point where she would do so well in solo concerts that I'm suprised that they haven't even been trying to do that. It's not even like it's gotta be massive stadiums too. Like she just still has the popularity and could even thrive a bit overseas too.

Actually though, she elevated so much that MNH aren't even on her level.

Yea, touring is such an easy way to garner more attention while maintaining a solid fanbase considering the lack of communication that MNH allows for their artists. She has a good catalogue too. Plus idk if this is a good gage but her appearances in festivals + in Korea while Christopher came to do his concert appearances; it all received positive reception and people know a good solid bit to want to even go to her shows.

I guess based on their track records, you just gotta make money and be on the CEO's good behavior

Actually though. Concert/Tour should be a number on priority considering her discography. But yea, marketing wise; it don’t even have to be expensive. Chatting with fans constantly or doing chill things where they keep Byulharang fed just helps with keeping her name around. But yea, can’t wait to see her leave