The Sad Story of Doping in Swimming 

There needs to be lifetime bans or severe enough times as the risk - rewards are too low. Dope, train hard, take the suspension if you're caught but carry on training, then compete with many more training hours ahead of the competition. Happens in weightlifting and happens in all sports if we're being realistic

Do a Norwegian skiing team, they are all asthmatics but win regularly 😂

Great video! I hope to see more videos like this.

Can’t understand why WADA is involved with “substances of abuse” like heroin. I can’t envisage any circumstances in sport where heroin would be performance enhancing.

I think there's not enough being done and not enough punishment on athletes who have taken illegal drugs and tested positive or refusing to take mandatory tests.

The fact that Yang (and others) might compete at Paris means they're soft on drug cheats.

I don’t understand why anyone could feel good about winning while doping. I would be embarrassed to get a medal only because I cheated. It’s like admitting that you know you’re not good enough. I’d think the win would feel empty.

Sometimes trying to appear as fair and balanced misses the goal by a mile. In this instance, putting Phelps in the company of true dopers, despite the disclosure that he didn’t take PEDs, is misleading and in my opinion something worse.

I'm surprised this is an issue. Every sport has this problem and not everybody gets caught. if there was a 100% test for every athlete prior to competition I think the results would be amazing. It would not surprise me if Phelps took PE's also. When there is large amounts of money on the line, all bets are off. My two cents.

Almost all top sprinters now are bigger than the East-German athletes in the late 70's. It's not just improvements in training,diet and exercise. Swimming is one of the most problematic sports dopingwise, it's as widespread and part of the culture as in cycling.

Cheating makes me not want to watch sports.

I knew a swimmer that competed at a local level in the 90s and even he admitted taking stuff...

rules need to be stricter, for sure.

It's very easy to change the molecular structure of a drug enough to where no drug test can catch it. There are labs you can contact that will make the drug with your structural changes. Then you test it on a group of mice and compare the results with a control group of mice that were on the original compound as well as another control group that were natural. This way you can compare the blood test results and see if it interferes with any other mechanism in the body other than anabolism of your muscles and the androgen effects on your body. By measuring the muscle mass percentage of each mouse, you will be able to get a good idea of the anabolic score index as well and can decide if the compound is worth taking. I don't think there are many natural athletes among the top players in any sport. It's far too easy to cheat in an undetected way for that to be probable. But since almost everyone is cheating, the playing field is still "fair", right? -No It's not fair, because there are thousands of amazingly talented and genetically gifted people that get discouraged from continuing their careers in these sport every year because they can't naturally get as good as the top players and so they train and train, but doesn't get even close to the top players performance and in the end they just give up and their amazing genetics and talent is wasted. For the playing field to be fair, PED's need to be either legalized and allowed in all sports or the testing needs to be MUCH improved to notice other markers than just the compounds people take so we can catch any use of PEDs no matter what molecular structure.

You missed a couple of big ones. In the last Olympics, Russian athletes weren't allowed to compete under their own flag, because Russia was deemed to have been systemically cheating. And China was widely regarded to be cheating at the 1992 Olympics, even though nobody tested positive. Within about two years, though, half the Chinese swim team all failed their drug tests at a single competition..

Sun yang is one of the best freestyle swimmer as far as technique is concerned.

I feel for the East German athletes that were doped by their coaches, they weren't willing participants and had to suffer the consequences of someone else's actions

When hard work and endless drills can’t improve one more nano second (and they are getting older), no surprise some resort to using performance enhancing substances.

Australia is one of the biggest doping when it comes to swimming

I honestly don't want to know these true facts... so discouraging.

Where can I find the list of what can’t be take

I heard that the only sport that doesn't dope is figure skating as it makes them perform worse somehow.

If s*n Yang swims in Paris I’m gonna be mad

at the top everyone is using something, peds are light years ahead of testing

“If you test positive” - so basically don’t get caught.

Top sports are doped my word that's a shocking revelation!....

I think except for contact sports all performance enhancing drugs or at least a lot of them should be legal. Taking things that give you an edge is part of competing. It's no different than eating the right foods. If someone is consentually willing to take years off their life to win they should be able to do so.

cheaters are everywhere these days

It's not "some" swimmers.

any comments on the recent news with 23 chinese swimmers?

This is all just a joke. They all dope. You won’t be able to win anything without it, that’s why in US all athletes dope. The question is how they decide what’s legal and what’s illegal. Just like the case with meldonium? If sport should be honest, then why creatinine, large one and tons of other supplements are legal??? In Us all those parents that want their kids to be champions, pump them with these sport supplements containing creatinine . And those supplements all have irreversible damaging effects on their bodies. Why college swimmers in US not being tested? How about making a video on that? It’s a huge problem in US and nobody speaks about it?

Ahhhh the banning was shortened. Corruption in the OC

They all take something. All you need is doctor give you prescription and declare that to the international instance and you can get away with it. How is that many athletes have asthma and adhd like Phelps ?

RU-vid posting many Australian swimmers test positive doping?

Olympic Weight lifting is another one.

Almost Every single world class swimmer of the last 40 years was on something just like every world class athlete was on something. If the documentary Icarus taught us anything is they're all at it

Not only the East Germany Olympic swimmers are doped, but also the FINA.

What about men competing in women's sports? It's worse than doping.

that’s crazy

every sport has an untouchable.

Some countries are very advanced in pharmaceutical industry. They are capable to make their athletes beat the doping tests.

Evil countries, dont forget.

It’s never individual but systemic. A whole country or swim team. Perhaps one can’t win something like the Olympics just like the Tour de France. It should be ban for life

It’s a shame. Yang’s stroke and kick were so smooth

No sympathy. These people cheated so many people from having their moment. They should be locked up

The problem is not to taking illegal substances! This substances are not illegal, because all athletes are taking them (athletics, swimming, football, cycling, NBA and so, sooo on). The problem of doping is: theres is a line, if you cross the line, you are doping. Don't forget it: all athletes are taking drugs in any competition

what happened to Do Ping?

If you caught.. lifetime ban. Ruin their whol career because they didn't care, why should the commision?

I still despair for Sharon Davies...robbed.

Tech suits are not banned

El hecho es que tiene una técnica excelente

Ruta Meilutyte says hello

"Agressivity", not "agression"

WADA isn't that the company involved with the mass doping scandal

Why do athletes excuses even get airplay They will always come up with some BS story

Suggestion, let's have 2 separate groups for each intl competition. No doping group to see who has most talent and best training, doping group to see who dope most effective.😁

One interesting thing the vast majority of athletes in the US are asthmatics they can legally use the medication.

This is true in effectively every sport. No surprise.

Sun Yang's never been tested positive.....

Everything has consequences...

Honestly I’d be shocked if 95% weren’t enhanced, especially the men

As long as FINA (now "World Aquatics") acts like a little b**** for these cheaters, it'll continue.

SUN YANG was not doping but he was chldish and egocentric by smashing the testing sample.

I don't recall SUN YANG actually doping, but he was protected by his mom and just train and paid a heavy price for being so childish.

So Phelps too? Huh

Its an IQ Test not a Doping test

Doping in swimming and track and field is wide spread like Marion jones and Carl Lewis and American athletes do not accept or allowed to be tested during competitions, do you really think ledecky can win 200 400 800 1500 races every competition with no help? It is like saying ussian Bolt win 200 400 800 1500 in a single meet

Yes, "mate " . This is the world we live in" . But who created this world??? Money!! Where, for God's sake, has the value of integrity gone. ??????

Bro, that backstroke turn was something ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-TAjOKGps28M.html

So if this is a video about filing and taking PED’s why was Phelps included in this?? If there’s no evidence that he’s taken anything why include his mistakes?? It’s one things if this was a video about what gets swimmers suspended, but the title clearly states this is supposed to be about doping. Seems like a cheap shot to me

I have a different take on it. With regards to professional athletes, if they wish to dope then sure let them have at it, it is their body and they know the risks they are taking. Perhaps if they choose to use PEDs then they should declare it? But, overall on a professional level it is their body, their choice, and their lives they are risking.

They are all dropping not just swimming even the ones that are pretending they are not. When u are like 20% ahead of everyone else it's not because it's a super human it's because they were made a superhuman. That's why I have no interest in sports anymore

"I win yes?" 🏊

Ain't no funny way, swimmers hit this shyt 💔

No way Phelps should be in this video!!! He is amazing

With all the advancement of today's medicine, why cant do anything to detect doping before the event started

everyone cheats it's just some can't hide it well enough

What? China came out of nowhere and does incredibly well at Olympics now and you say it's steroids? Shocker!!!!

they have to cheat because all the other athlete are taking something but didn't get caught...lets be real...just let be ...either they are all on gear or they all are not..watch once they are off gear the numbers will be so different

Most of us old enough to remember when the East Germans attended the Olympics. When the wall came down, all their doctor/scientists went to China. There is a chance the Chinese swimmer didn’t know they were drugging him at first anyway. Even if he did, he couldn’t have quit if he wanted tho it didn’t look like he cared if he knew.

The case of Sun Yang annoys me so much. The way he acted toward duncan scott, 'you loser, I win' when everyone knew he was cheating rubbed me the wrong way. Caught cheating multiple times, years apart. Should never be allowed back. Whatsmore, it isn't proven, but his 1500m free WR was likely done whilst doping, especially if you watch his unnatural pace on the last 100-200.

Why just ban from sports？jail time should be served. That’s how they treat marijuana smokers anyways and those smokers didn’t even hurt anyone unlike these athletes.

everyone dopes lmao its just technology against technology...

Lia Thomas is the biggest doping 😅

Wasn't Ryan Lochte just smoking weed how is that performance enhancing lol

Everybody known chinees,usa,british atlettes using doping

Perhaps we should develop mathematical formulas that correct for enhanced performance as a result of doping; if an individual "wins" the race, but the winner's time is "renormalized" to account for potential doping, perhaps that individual would not continue to be considered to be the winner. Certainly, someone must have studied the differential between those who doped and those who didn't.

Did Zhang Lin and Liu Zige dope?

Everyone I mean Everyone is on PED’s. That’s just simple math.

Should test Carlitos

Doping is legal in swimming if you take the drugs that give you female characteristics

Those who can beat the tests will win

And the new dopers are already there again dominating certain distances.

They're all on the juice

There should be a free for all league and a natty league.

Simple. Make the Olympics as a contest between the best cheating chemists. 😂😂😂

sun yang is the worst and will come back the water again?

Really, the ONLY effective preventative is lifetime ban on First violation. hGH is not easily discovered unless vials are found in possession. Perhaps a lifetime coach or doctor -related ban. If one of those were found to have facilitated cheating, ANY athletes ever associated with them banned for life. This would necessarily include the ahtlete being banned from coaching or ANY other contact with other athletes- who themsleves should be banned if violating contact ban with such individuals. If audiences/"fans" disagree, theycan always take refuge in alcohol and other doping to assuage their "grief."

Everyone dopes, how do I know? Trust me, I know.

Unfortunately it all starts at Age Group! Parents doping their swimmers with or without their consent!! Is the child really a phenom or is there more to those “unbelievable performances”??