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From politics to every day life, humans have a tendency to form social groups that are defined in part by how they differ from other groups.
Neuroendocrinologist Robert Sapolsky, author Dan Shapiro, and others explore the ways that tribalism functions in society, and discuss how-as social creatures-humans have evolved for bias.
But bias is not inherently bad. The key to seeing things differently, according to Beau Lotto, is to "embody the fact" that everything is grounded in assumptions, to identify those assumptions, and then to question them.
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TRANSCRIPT:
0:00 Intro
0:30 Robert Sapolsky on the hardwiring of social creatures and the “runaway trolley problem.
4:53 Alexander Todorov on typicality and how we perceive faces.
6:46 Dan Shapiro on when tribe loyalty supersedes logic.
8:00 Amy Chua on the importance of grouping our identities.
8:47 Dividing into groups is inevitable,says Sapolsky, but how we divide is fluid.
10:44 Beau Lotto and Todorov discuss how our brains evolved for assumptions and the psychological functions of first impressions.
Our brain evolved to take what is meaningless to make it meaningful. Everything you do right now is grounded in your assumptions. Not sometimes, but all the time.
We are kind of hardwired to figure out the intentions of other people.
We turn the world into us's and thems. And we don't like the thems very much and are often really awful to them.
That's the challenge of our tribalistic world that we're in right now.
ROBERT SAPOLSKY: When you look at some of the most appalling realms of our behavior, much of it has to do with the fact that social organisms are really, really hardwired to make a basic dichotomy about the social world, which is those organisms who count as us's and those who count as thems. And this is virtually universal among humans. And this is virtually universal among all sorts of social primates that have aspects of social structures built around separate social groupings, us's and thems. We turn the world into us's and thems and we don't like the thems very much and are often really awful to them. And the us's, we exaggerate how wonderful and how generous and how affiliative and how just like siblings they are to us. We divide the world into us and them. And one of the greatest ways of seeing just biologically how real this fault line is is there's this hormone oxytocin. Oxytocin is officially the coolest, grooviest hormone on Earth because what everybody knows is it enhances mother infant bonding, and it enhances pair bonding in couples. And it makes you more trusting and empathic and emotionally expressive and better at reading expressions, more charitable. And it's obvious that if you just spritz the oxytocin up everyone's noses on this planet, it would be the Garden of Eden the next day. Oxytocin promotes prosocial behavior, until people look closely. And it turns out, oxytocin does all those wondrous things only for people who you think of as an us, as an in-group member. It improves in-group favoritism, in-group parochialism. What does it do to individuals who you consider a them? It makes you crappier to them. More preemptively, aggressive, less cooperative in an economic game. What oxytocin does is enhance this us and them divide. So that along with other findings, the classic lines of us versus them along the lines of race, of sex, of age, of socioeconomic class, your brain processes these us-them differences on a scale of milliseconds. A 20th of a second, your brain is already responding differently to an us versus them.
So fabulous studies showing this, this double-edged quality to oxytocin. and this was a study done by a group in the Netherlands. And what they did was they took Dutch University student volunteers and they gave them classic philosophy problem, the runaway trolley problem, is it okay to sacrifice one person to save five? Runaway trolley. Can you push this big beefy guy onto the track who gets squashed by the trolley but that slows it down so that five people tied to the track... Standard problem in philosophy, utilitarianism, ends justifies means. All of that. So you give people the scenario and people have varying opinions. And now you give them the scenario where the person you push onto the track has a name. And either it's a standard name from Netherlands, Dirk. I think he was a Pieter, which, this is like a meat and potatoes Netherlandish name or a name from either of two groups that evoke lots of xenophobic hostility among people from the Netherlands. Someone with a typically...
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@bigthink
@bigthink 3 года назад
Do you recognize your own biases?
@yumnaapta
@yumnaapta 3 года назад
us vs them: ppl who not watching this channel
@KillerOfCereal1
@KillerOfCereal1 3 года назад
Sometimes.
@timofeymistral4496
@timofeymistral4496 3 года назад
Getting better every day thanks to mindfulness
@PedanticNo1
@PedanticNo1 3 года назад
Of course I do! (/s)
@gavinbamber6082
@gavinbamber6082 3 года назад
It is easier to recognize other people's biases.
@medhachakraborty7474
@medhachakraborty7474 3 года назад
We criticise others of being evil while we nourish devils within ourselves .
@felonious_c
@felonious_c 3 года назад
All these videos on cognitive bias are really making an impact on my day to day interactions. It's hard to be unbiased, much harder in practice than on paper.
@AceofDlamonds
@AceofDlamonds 3 года назад
Absolutely. Even Dr. Sapolsky says he has violent fantasies and then he tries to talk himself out of it for a short time but they keep coming back. Part of being a typical human...
@squamish4244
@squamish4244 3 года назад
WAY harder. That's the job of applied neuroscience. I do neurofeedback, brainwave entrainment and vagus nerve stimulation in what started as an attempt to get off benzos but has evolved into an effort to get my nervous system to calm the fuck down in general.
@KootFloris
@KootFloris 3 года назад
Did you also include the bias/assumptions of the speakers and your own in your conclusion?
@jdavis7993
@jdavis7993 3 года назад
Yeah, it actually is pretty difficult. Even dealing with bigots, I understand that their biases TRIGGER a bias in me, and it can be hard not to hold it against them and remember that they can change.
@sweetbunny6198
@sweetbunny6198 3 года назад
@J Davis Are you red pilled?
@timeisup3094
@timeisup3094 3 года назад
Robert Sapolsky touches on this topic extensively in his lectures at Stanford and various interviews.
@hifibrony
@hifibrony 3 года назад
The Stanford lectures are fascinating and very enlightening.
@michaeljohnson6752
@michaeljohnson6752 3 года назад
And his book behave
@I-0-0-I
@I-0-0-I 3 года назад
Sean Carrol’s Mindscape has a great interview.
@timeisup3094
@timeisup3094 3 года назад
@@mikekane2492 It think the “new book” will focus mostly on the absurdities within the justice system.
@radhikayadav1409
@radhikayadav1409 3 года назад
@@mikekane2492 really glad to know, I am looking forward too could you please tell me the relevance between Kahneman and sapolsky do they share something in common? thank you
@peetsnort
@peetsnort 3 года назад
During my younger years I have been arrogant. Now 61 i realise that we all need each other whether we want it or not. Every scew pot has a lid and we're all cogs in the clock of life
@KootFloris
@KootFloris 3 года назад
I think you could be an example for many (Americans?) caught in the Us vs Them trap, either by cultural bias or by design through political players who manipulate their audience.
@KootFloris
@KootFloris 3 года назад
@wisdom niko Great addition! Sadly the political leaders still haven't learned from global heroes like Nelson Mandela, that integrity and the will to solve huge issues for many, including 'the other side' should rank above super PAC funding.
@KootFloris
@KootFloris 3 года назад
@wisdom niko I know. One fun idea would be if our leaders couldn't step up to be candidates, but they could only be forwarded by the people, like each neighborhood choosing the wisest (wo)man among them, and they choosing after a year from among them the best to lead the city, etc. This council would be yearly elected with hidden votes, so even your favorite smart aunt could suddenly be a leader, because many people sensed her integrity, and we could collectively ignore the loudmouths shouting choose me. ;)
@Matrinique
@Matrinique 3 года назад
Heheh stealing this quote from you. Well said.
@peetsnort
@peetsnort 2 года назад
@Macho Sancho I brought you into the world and I can take you out. Don't worry. You will grow old and hopefully up
@arthurwieczorek4894
@arthurwieczorek4894 3 года назад
"Nothing interesting begins with knowing, it begins with not knowing", that is, a question or query line.
@cassieoz1702
@cassieoz1702 3 года назад
As soon as you label someone 'other', your brain sees 'lesser', and that justifies your bad behaviour to them.
@terrillmel
@terrillmel 3 года назад
Woah.! That's profound. I've tried to describe this, but have never been able to do so in such few words
@LDP00011
@LDP00011 3 года назад
Sapolski explains things really well!
@Ddub1083
@Ddub1083 3 года назад
Just a heads up, you can find his entire Biology and Human behavior course on youtube as well as other courses of his.
@middearuna6163
@middearuna6163 2 года назад
@@Ddub1083 in my to all î,
@PBAmygdala2021
@PBAmygdala2021 3 года назад
Oh, it's DAN Shapiro. Dan. The alternative would've been too ironic.
@FutureMindset
@FutureMindset 3 года назад
This is really important to understand, especially during our age where the political divide is absolutely insane. So much of what we do and think is determined by our primitive instincts that evolved to historically aid in our survival. Humans have survived in small tribes and groups and been hostile to members of opposing tribes because it was essential to our survival and while these conditions don't necessarily apply to our world, the instincts have remained.
@gontlemanggeneral-segolodi5222
@gontlemanggeneral-segolodi5222 3 года назад
Humans were genetically engineered by aliens.
@AceofDlamonds
@AceofDlamonds 3 года назад
@@gontlemanggeneral-segolodi5222 Stop with the pseudoscience. No we weren't.
@afriedrich1452
@afriedrich1452 3 года назад
All I want to know is how to weaponize the coronavirus. Oh wait, there was a book written about that about 5 years ago. It is so nice when knowledge is shared in our world.
@AceofDlamonds
@AceofDlamonds 3 года назад
@@afriedrich1452 Are you claiming bioweaponry was introduced in that book? You're 100 years late. Are you claiming pathogenic human coronaviruses weren't known until recently? You're 19 years late. Are you claiming scientists and activists didn't warn about a pandemic until "5 years ago"? Then you're several decades late. Silly conspiracy theory claptrap isn't "knowledge". lmaoooo...
@afriedrich1452
@afriedrich1452 3 года назад
@@AceofDlamonds Why are you claiming I made claims? Anyway, the head of that silly conspiracy theory claptrap is highly honored and well paid by a well known government.
@Lhorez
@Lhorez 3 года назад
I thought one of the speakers was Ben Shapiro. That would have blown my mind... and broken the irony meter.
@Ikbeneengeit
@Ikbeneengeit 3 года назад
Same here
@JarodM
@JarodM 3 года назад
Likewise, we all fell for that last name...
@unknownethnicity
@unknownethnicity 3 года назад
Yeah, Ben really is a “them” isn’t he?
@Ikbeneengeit
@Ikbeneengeit 3 года назад
@@unknownethnicity Ben S is not someone known for well reasoned science based education.
@unknownethnicity
@unknownethnicity 3 года назад
@@Ikbeneengeit man, those “others” really make no sense to us!
@heavymeddle28
@heavymeddle28 3 года назад
I have a story about racism. I'm Swedish, 49, so it's safe to say that I've had my fair share of immigrants and racism around me. Now I live in Thailand since 8-9 years and now I'm the different one. I'm not a person. I am the "farang". People stare and talk when they think I don't see. Some don't even give a rats about that. Maybe you think that I'm full of shit but I'm not making it up. I experience that every day. Its not easy. Drives me insane sometimes. And I have the choice to go back. The immigrants in Sweden don't have that option. Long story slightly shorter... I'm going to think twice when I look down upon people from different parts of the world from the day I get back home. Really eye opening. And I've never been intentionally racist. Everyone should get a dose of racism before they look down upon any other brother or sister. That's what we are. No matter religion or colour. Sounds clicheish... I know. But... 😊
@justbe1451
@justbe1451 2 года назад
Wow, great share, thanks. 👍
@naejin
@naejin 2 года назад
No, it's true. I've heard similar stories when foreigners try to live in China or Japan or such. Looking from another person's perspective is hard to imagine accurately, but seeing is easier when you walk in that perspective.
@angelinarobert622
@angelinarobert622 2 года назад
i'm genetically Swedish, Dane, English, and Finnish. i was born in California. But i've been living in Japan for 20 years. i'm just a white man in an Asian world. i like it here, can i stay in Japan?
@irishhi8333
@irishhi8333 2 года назад
Isn't a certain proportion of who are "us or them" based on early socialization? Wouldn't folks who grow up with more social heterogeneity potentially have a greater "us" than "them"? And, doesn't social indoctrination, propaganda and spiritual inculcation influence humans' perception of these elements as well?
@FoxinTaiwan
@FoxinTaiwan 2 года назад
You don't have to think twice about it. People are people.
@Mussetrussen
@Mussetrussen 3 года назад
Well we might be very quick to judge based on first impressions, but as Daniel Kahneman showed us in Thinking fast and slow, knowing that this is how we work, we can be skeptical of our own first judgements, and think again. We can choose to ignore our first impulses, get more frontal lobe involved, and make more well though through decisions and actions. Acting like this, and continuing to get better at this, for me, feels like a sort of will-driven personal evolution.
@arafatrasool83
@arafatrasool83 3 года назад
that makes sense and sounds really cool
@cassieoz1702
@cassieoz1702 3 года назад
Great book
@BlueInk912
@BlueInk912 3 года назад
🙌 That is how positive change starts it long and vigilent road💪.
@AceofDlamonds
@AceofDlamonds 3 года назад
Possibly the most important topic or set of topics on Big Think. The ability to recognize your own biases and innate tendencies is something no other living being does, and it is key to creating a better world.
@Calligraphybooster
@Calligraphybooster 3 года назад
Don’t conclude that too soon. Dolphins can make detailed 3d images of underwater objects via sonar. But... they can also ‘say’ the sound of the reflected pulses to other dolphins, thus planting an image directly into their brains. I tell you this just to make aware of levels of sophistication that exist elsewere, and that suggest wider possibilities.
@I-0-0-I
@I-0-0-I 3 года назад
This was by far the best piece that I’ve seen from this channel.
@stheday1
@stheday1 3 года назад
Modern world requires different tribes to get along. Peace and prosperity depend on it. The ideas in this video are probably more important than anything else at this point in human history.
@jaq3405
@jaq3405 Год назад
This actually emphasises the importance of representation and mindful portrayal of others, particularly in the media or in books etc which some people are actually fighting against.
@hifibrony
@hifibrony 3 года назад
Seventeen astonishingly brilliant and informative minutes.
@SquizzMe
@SquizzMe 3 года назад
While none of this seems particularly new, it is wonderful to have it articulated so clearly. In the end, we are all slaves to our egos. What flatters the self and pleases the senses is good; what hurts the self and causes pain is bad.
@SK-tk6bi
@SK-tk6bi 7 месяцев назад
True
@JuanAntonio-wj2rv
@JuanAntonio-wj2rv 3 года назад
"Subjectivity is the only certainty" Kierkegaard "Hell is other people" Sartre
@justinkarlin
@justinkarlin 3 года назад
Superb video. Oxytocin is not a panacea. Beware the dangers of careless compassion.
@cass8330
@cass8330 3 года назад
What do you mean by careless?.. also, what should ppl do instead?
@bharatapat
@bharatapat 3 года назад
The summary: Technically we are always associating people like us (in-groups) and them (outgroups). This division that we create in the brain is enhanced by Oxytocin in the brain. We become closer to our people and away from others because of it. It's classically seen in many movies where the heroes are always someone like us, living with us and villains are them, the aliens, the non-English speakers, etc. We tend to like people who look like people around us. Most Indians will like Indian faces more than American faces. Here also we create a sense of us and them while trusting people. We can be easily manipulated to change who is us and who is them. Example: In general you will likely say Indians are us and Americans are they. Now let's say you like Chennai Super Kings. Then the Americans and Indians who support CSK are us and those who don't are they. The dividing line is extremely malleable, the good thing is we can have empathy for 'them' because of this, while the bad thing is we can be manipulated to believe who is us and who is them easily. We are hardwired to judge people at the first look. In absence of information, we make assumptions about things in a fraction of seconds. We can not wait to know if a reptile with sharp teeth has the intention to hurt us or not, we assume it hurts and we act accordingly. But this hardwiring is malleable. We can change our mind when we are safe and have more information about the reptile. In the first instance, Batman's Joker seems evil, but as we learn more about him, we can empathise with him.
@JarodM
@JarodM 3 года назад
Enjoyed everyone's insight, thanks~
@zerola5154
@zerola5154 3 года назад
For more I recommend "Survival of the Friendliest," "Blueprint: The Evolutionary Origins of a Good Society," and "Enlightenment Now: The Case for Reason, Science, Humanism, and Progress."
@arafatrasool83
@arafatrasool83 3 года назад
thanks will check out. i think i will like survival of the friendliest
@JarodM
@JarodM 3 года назад
Thanks for the recommendations~
@cass8330
@cass8330 3 года назад
Thank you 🙏
@hamza3065
@hamza3065 3 года назад
I was thinking about these issues and Big Think drops a video. Love this content. Keep stimulating my mind.
@fretnesbutke3233
@fretnesbutke3233 2 года назад
A commitment to self-honesty and the awareness of subconscious impulses and abandoned falsehoods that science affords us is the best we can do. It took me over 5 decades of life experiences and scientific literacy,and deep soul searching,to become aware of the fearful truth of how un-self-aware a huge portion of humanity is.
@timkemmerling9037
@timkemmerling9037 Год назад
What a great compilation of great thinkers. Awesome lecture on social organisation! So much to read up on.
@Calligraphybooster
@Calligraphybooster 3 года назад
The point Prof. Amy Chua brings up is very simple, but significant because branding and algorithems are aiming at molding us into identities we did not even choose ourselves, but seperate us from others.
@Ddub1083
@Ddub1083 3 года назад
No they are aiming to show you a piece of content that you are most likely going to keep watching. An effect of this process is that the topics recommended get smaller and smaller as they get more and more accurate. But that is not their "aim"
@farizanroslan
@farizanroslan 3 года назад
Easy. Get to know 'them' better and scrutinized 'us' more than usual. The more we do this, the more refined assumptions we can think of.
@drbelanger73
@drbelanger73 2 года назад
I love what you are doing here. There is an enormous lack of education, poverty, and equity that will prevent folks who need to hear this from watching. I'm a grad student too. Take this to the streets
@urbanwarchief
@urbanwarchief 2 года назад
Pfft you go to the streets
@marthamryglod291
@marthamryglod291 Год назад
In my experience, it's a lack of interest in the topic preventing people from learning. It seems that most people just want to keep what they "know" consistent. It brings a feeling of security.
@donolsen7634
@donolsen7634 3 года назад
Fascinating! Thank you .
@vethopefully8535
@vethopefully8535 2 года назад
by far my fav vid by big think!! This answers a lot of things on my mind!
@eihwazz12
@eihwazz12 3 года назад
finally someone breaks the taboo. Guys? We are not godlike beings, we are just an animals. That's the hardest to swallow pill for humanity.
@glennsimpson_aka_bobbysaccaro
@glennsimpson_aka_bobbysaccaro 2 года назад
I particularly take to the "loyalty to the tribe" issue. It's so frustrating when I see someone come to the correct conclusion for the wrong reason, whether it is factually off or just a reasoning I don't agree with. Out of fairness, I feel like the logical problem has to be pointed out, but then I get accused of not being supportive of the overall position. Very frustrating.
@jannetteberends8730
@jannetteberends8730 3 года назад
Here is a nice anecdote. I live in a neighborhood where most people are not European white. I am. One day I was walking my dog and there was a group of four European white young man on the corner of the street. Immediately I was very suspicious, what where they doing there. Didn’t trusted it at all. Apparently my brains started to consider people of my ethnically they group as “the others”
@innerlocus
@innerlocus 3 года назад
From the book, 'The Four Agreements' Don't act on your assumptions as if they were facts.
@jonhil33
@jonhil33 3 года назад
Covid has really demonstrated to me the truth of this - in-group/out-group biases are hard wired into everyone, everywhere. It's as instinctive as it gets. Thankfully, as Sapolsky explains, it can be easily overcome by people who understand it.
@coop3814
@coop3814 3 года назад
Great video. Great explanation of a topic that is especially important for as many people as possible to understand in today's social climate.
@charlesdp
@charlesdp 2 года назад
So interesting and well explained.
@quanty30
@quanty30 3 года назад
The only us vs them that matters is class.
@pc3822
@pc3822 2 года назад
Always great to listen to Dr. Robert Sapolsky speak!
@SuperRicky1974
@SuperRicky1974 3 года назад
Marshal Rosenberg dedicated his life to understanding this and found another way to understand the us and them.
@crazkurtz
@crazkurtz 3 года назад
I believe looks are huge subliminally, but I think language is the biggest barrier between “peoples”. I find it easier to get along with some who speaks similar to me, regardless of that they look like. If you cannot communicate properly with someone, you mis trust them.
@MrBannnaHead
@MrBannnaHead 3 года назад
Engage in the process of creating perception .... well said
@malihealizadeh2720
@malihealizadeh2720 Год назад
this video is wonderful and helpful. thank you very much
@evacope1718
@evacope1718 3 года назад
This makes me think of that black man (can't remember his name) that became friends with KKK members and made over 200 of them turn in their robes. He appealed to their commonality by talking about shared interests like jazz and it broke down barriers, and racism. Shared commonality needs to be encouraged more often.
@LOGICZOMBIE
@LOGICZOMBIE 2 года назад
GREAT WORK
@theaspiringthinker5548
@theaspiringthinker5548 3 года назад
Objectivity is a goal to strive for, not an end state.
@colinlee1237
@colinlee1237 3 года назад
Great compilation. Y’all need Joshua Greene on to talk about this topic
@ginrummy3996
@ginrummy3996 3 года назад
The infamous prejudices. Can we approach every situations without tension?
@NetiNeti25920
@NetiNeti25920 2 года назад
Wow, always knew about Robert Sapolsky, but Beau Lotto is a revelation. Almost a younger version. So rare to have a neuroscientist who is so eloquent and yet explains it simply with great power.
@tomato1040
@tomato1040 2 года назад
YOUR FACE=mc2 IS YORE FAITH IN THE OTHER SIDE=mc2 OF THE MIRROR CALL MIRACLE=mc2 of, "Is IT ME=mc2 or is IT memory? "
@pantherenebuleuse
@pantherenebuleuse Год назад
Magnifique - very useful
@blessedveteran
@blessedveteran Год назад
🤯 Thank you
@1-Sir-
@1-Sir- 3 года назад
We should change us and them to make a better world
@karinak09
@karinak09 3 года назад
THIS. IS. SO. IMPORTANT.
@zumbull9170
@zumbull9170 2 года назад
Robert Sapolsky is one of us he is right! O_O
@patmoran5339
@patmoran5339 3 года назад
I noticed that Sapolsky said many times "oh my God". That seems to be an example of "us versus them" phenomena. Also, this information is extremely important. However there's another whole set of information that was completely disregarded. That is information on cultural evolution instead of biological evolution. Biological evolution has very little reach. Cultural evolution can have unlimited reach. We are not automatons like all the other animal species. We are very different. We are the only species that can create new knowledge. Also, I believe that we can create unlimited improvements in moral and political philosophy if we choose to do so. The focus on biological evolution should be replaced by a focus on cultural evolution. Specifically, we need to develop ways of eliminating errors, like religions, without violence.
@PierceArner
@PierceArner 3 года назад
This is also why you have antagonists in visual media being portrayed possessing a number of attractive, trustworthy, or sympathetic features in a narrative whenever the audience is meant to be more inclined to listen to both sides of the conflict between them and the protagonist. This is utilizing those inherent reflexes of ours by making intentional design choices, in order to make it so that the audience is more likely to have to individually determine which position is morally justified and aligns with their "us" group - rather than outright rejecting the person in the position of the enemy in the narrative structure _just_ because they're in a "them" group and not in the "us" group that you're aligned to via the story's initially structured perspective.
@24CarrotCake
@24CarrotCake 3 года назад
Fabulous!
@Wastingsometimehere
@Wastingsometimehere 3 года назад
Good video, but I don't mind "theming" someone for their own destructive behaviors and opinions. What I can't defend is theming someone over things they can't help physically and mentally. There is no justification for being rotten to a person over those things.
@kalyanib4046
@kalyanib4046 3 года назад
💖I always like these videos...
@thebeamerdreamer
@thebeamerdreamer 3 года назад
(I know its out of place but) Hey fellow army 👋
@kalyanib4046
@kalyanib4046 3 года назад
@@thebeamerdreamer heyy💜
@TheComedyGeek
@TheComedyGeek Год назад
About typicality : I think we are more likely to trust the faces we can read best. That will be the ones we have seen the most examples of, and that tends to be whatever in-group we are part of. I'm not saying prejudicial biases play no part. After all., prejudice blocks empathy. But I think readability is often key, especially in those moments of racism perpetrated by people who are not otherwise racist at all
@sistajoseph
@sistajoseph 3 года назад
If it's hard wired, why not just accept it and learn to live with it.
@MaliYojez
@MaliYojez 2 года назад
I’m guessing that a social media platform that bans any political talk would be a colossal success. People are sick of this hateful political world.
@NicholasDunbar
@NicholasDunbar Год назад
that's always been the challenge
@84knucks05
@84knucks05 Год назад
Everything you do is grounded in your assumptions Favorite quote of this video!
@ScienceFTW
@ScienceFTW 2 года назад
"We aren't going to make it, are we? Humans I mean." - John Connor
@billyjolly4855
@billyjolly4855 Год назад
What you said there is contrast difference. Becouse one is associated with who thry know and other doing and being the same thing is considered different of understanding. Disconnecting it is.
@charlesrobinson9881
@charlesrobinson9881 2 года назад
It is a universal trait of human nature the people prefer to deal with their own kind, their own language ,their own values ,their own traditions. They trust their own kind more. It probably it became an innate feature of human nature during the long millennia when they were in living in tribes. People learn to depend upon and trust their own kind is a trait which holds society together. When immigrants come they universally prefer their own kind.
@illuminationgoddess3
@illuminationgoddess3 3 года назад
Interesting.
@kenlevi6630
@kenlevi6630 2 года назад
Very good video. Question everything we believe.
@tomschneider7555
@tomschneider7555 3 года назад
So it looks like the Us vs Them bias has been extensively researched and understood but somehow it has not yet reached the mainstream discussion about racial behavior in our societies
@williampassavant2027
@williampassavant2027 Год назад
We have to work at overcoming the us vs. them predisposition every day. It takes effort and vigilance. And while we're working on our own behavior and beliefs, we should also strive to help others begin to see what's behind some of the beliefs and biases that they have. Of course, this can be very frustrating, but it's worth the effort.
@kezzyhko
@kezzyhko 3 года назад
Does this also apply to audio, like voices and familiar accents?
@perpetualgrimace
@perpetualgrimace 3 года назад
Absolutely
@Ddub1083
@Ddub1083 3 года назад
It applies to ANY input to your brain because it is your brain that is doing the processing.
@juliusfishman7222
@juliusfishman7222 Год назад
All we need is a new them, Aliens. Humanity will unite immediately
@StreetLiftingHybrid333
@StreetLiftingHybrid333 3 года назад
Once you start to realize that all things are one in the same energy, these primitive mindsets start to fall away. It takes effort and retraining ourselves. But I have seen it happening in myself.
@hughallbrooks8369
@hughallbrooks8369 3 года назад
Right primate mindset that is what these experts are reinforcing Humans don't interact on a wild animal level. If this debate was totally true How would they explain interracial couples Ppl just override one biological impulse over another This science is shady
@felipejr.deleon9741
@felipejr.deleon9741 3 года назад
You are correct. We just have to make people more self-aware to recognize that they have a higher self that does not fragment us into "us and them."
@hughallbrooks8369
@hughallbrooks8369 3 года назад
@@felipejr.deleon9741 RT the World Corporations promote divisiveness among different races and ethnicities. Amazon purposely hires people not inclined to unify together so as not to be able to unionize against exploitation. Its always the have against the have nots everything else is distraction
@felipejr.deleon9741
@felipejr.deleon9741 3 года назад
@@hughallbrooks8369 Definitely. Politicians also like to see people fragmented into left and right, Democrats and Republicans, and white and blue collar workers to keep them distracted and not be able to unify to demand from their leaders to work for the common good.
@afriedrich1452
@afriedrich1452 3 года назад
Oh yeah, my energy is ultraviolet. Compare that to your measly infrared.
@tomato1040
@tomato1040 2 года назад
What makes us "US" is that WE=mc2 don't need words to describe life, & them, Them is that "They" need words to live descriptively in Their Scripts. Know Yore Script Chores!
@bdouble3585
@bdouble3585 Год назад
We're a constitutional republic not a democracy love the show👍
@mequable
@mequable Год назад
I looked at the screen, saw Todorov's face and found it attractive. Only now at the end of the video I look again at the screen and see the name - assuming he's of Bulgarian descend, it comes to no surprise that I can relate to his face features.
@lumbratile4174
@lumbratile4174 3 года назад
Beau lotto has caused me both a crush and a serious mental breakdown
@michaelwatts5481
@michaelwatts5481 Год назад
Is vs. them mentally is about duality. That’s a 3D way of thinking. Many people are now switching to the fifth dimension. We see things in many shades of gray
@50-50_Grind
@50-50_Grind Год назад
Wait till you get to the 9th dimension!
@tonirenee3161
@tonirenee3161 Год назад
Alex🥰 wish American men could express themselves as beautifully as you do. ☺️
@gabrieljordan8015
@gabrieljordan8015 3 года назад
One cure to this us vs them disease we are currently dealing with is limit your time on social media and spend more time reading books or going for a walk.
@senantiasa
@senantiasa 3 года назад
6:53 "Once you attach to a tribe... no longer is content important... at the end of the day the most important element in terms of being part of a tribe is loyalty" I disagree. I feel so attached to my ethnicity culturally, linguistically and in terms mindset. There's just a special bond when I meet someone from my ethnic group. However, I would automatically abandon them if I feel that they have bad character or are selfish or unjust to other people and I would rather defend people from other ethnicity who weren't treated well by that person.
@Calligraphybooster
@Calligraphybooster 3 года назад
I like your attitude. All it takes to be a gentleman is the wish to be one and act that. But I think your loyalty to your group was foremost in your mind, less so your group demanding your loyalty.
@alicecoppers8980
@alicecoppers8980 3 года назад
You forget to mention culture and how difficult it is to get out of that? Take for example Indonesian islands that do not want foreigners to visit. Their resources are very limited and they cannot share.
@ganados0
@ganados0 3 года назад
You tell 'em.
@atulpj
@atulpj 3 года назад
Tribalism seems quite sensible evolutionarily but we need to find a space to collaborate with other tribes too, though different from us. Evolution cannot have a specific direction.
@timeisup3094
@timeisup3094 3 года назад
Yes, there are cognitive and biological advantages to getting along with people from other cultures.
@atulpj
@atulpj 3 года назад
@@timeisup3094 By tribe I meant social and mental groups not reduced to culture. With the kind of global interaction we have today, it's harder to tolerate people who differ from us ideologically, ethically or culturally.
@user-rb7ns9yj5y
@user-rb7ns9yj5y 3 года назад
Psilocybin does wonders on this
@atulpj
@atulpj 3 года назад
@Shimmy Shai As we move into the information age we see the emergence of intellectual tribalism which creates groups like Greenpeace etc which span cultures and continents. It is the very narrow regional forms of tribalism that leads to xenophobia and racial discrimination. People do work well together in like minded groups.We do need to realize that diversity and localisation inevitably lead to the formation of culture. If everyone behaved homogenously world wide there wouldn't be any individuality left.
@atulpj
@atulpj 3 года назад
@Shimmy Shai But then again all these things tend to play out naturally. Maybe many of these behaviours are a consequence of a colonial past and subsequent globalization. I'm just irked by the fact that many nations and people were able to get away with the damage they wrought on the world. Maybe tribalism is perpetually prevalent and may continue to be so. We should incessantly enquire into the reality of what's going on and try and educate our respective tribes.
@aHarzoo
@aHarzoo 3 года назад
Bill Hicks - Its just a ride
@aster5031
@aster5031 3 года назад
10/10
@SmokinOak
@SmokinOak 3 года назад
I think this is especially true of the United States. No country on earth loves to villainize other people and other countries as we do.
@Adhil_parammel
@Adhil_parammel 2 года назад
Only fools trust stranger.
@christosphilippou1693
@christosphilippou1693 2 года назад
Hello, can you please recommend me some books on this topic
@jim67z
@jim67z 2 года назад
Sebastian Junger - Tribe
@christosphilippou1693
@christosphilippou1693 2 года назад
@@jim67z thanks
@mindyourself7063
@mindyourself7063 3 года назад
Very insightful, but I must admit a bias to experts that repeatedly say "right?" to reinforce points of discussion. Can you pick out the target of my bias here? It's not a deal breaker,...
@whatrtheodds
@whatrtheodds Год назад
CALLING ALL SCIENTISTS When I first met my now partner I found his face repulsive. I would look him in the eye and I would scrunch my face up because I just wasn't attracted physically at all. funnily he thought it was a cute quirky thing I did when we first met. I'll never tell him why I actually did it, but I was thinking to myself- " this is some weird bias" (was it a childhood trauma with someone who looked like him, was it a preconceived idea I had of who I'd fall in love with? I don't know) but I kept saying to myself " his a good person, I really like his personality, his values " maybe I'll get used to his face. And after 4 months of dating I did. I now find him very cute🤕🥺💕. Which still blows my mind. I see his face and i see a man of beauty (probably because he actually is on the inside 🥰) . Soooo point is challenge your bias.
@theodoreroberts3407
@theodoreroberts3407 3 года назад
I think I agree wirh you, but I don't play that game well because I'm a loner. No us or them.
@sahilhossian8212
@sahilhossian8212 Год назад
Lore of The science behind ‘us vs. them’ momentum 100
@dharmatycoon
@dharmatycoon 3 года назад
Sapolsky is so great man
@sedgwickmcalaster7785
@sedgwickmcalaster7785 2 года назад
How do you fix judging the world by us and them isn't this something that on an evolutionary standard we should have grown out of
@sudipdebnath9903
@sudipdebnath9903 3 года назад
Sound is very low, pleas fix it.
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