The Secret For A Great Sounding Track? - by E-Clip 

I would ask you as well to read the blog, as I did this video as freestyle, and I forgot to say few things, so in order to get a complete picture, please read the blog as well: www.eclipmusic.com/post/the-secret-for-a-great-sounding-track

We/I can see you're a great guy E-Clip with honest intentions, you're doing this for the right reason and your speaking your truth. I appreciate you bro.

I started producing in 1995, old school Cubase on an Atari, no VST. All hardware. After 5 years of having loads of fun and meeting so many interesting people I moved on. Now I'm in my 50s and love PsyTrance. These videos are incredible, I write music for fun, that should always be the most important thing, success, money, recognition is just a bonus if you're lucky, but I really enjoy the in depth science E-Clip goes into. I just wish I knew then what I do now, my old tracks could have been so much better.

People don't know how is so hard to produce a decent track, thanx to share that with us :-) The secret is : a bit of chance, a bit of talent and WORK, WORK and again WORK (David Bowie)

Truth! When I began in 2012 I was just a young teenager with no money, but my creativity was booming and it was very fun. A few years go by and I listen to my songs played in clubs and parties and get very discouraged because my mixes sound bad, and being young with no money meant I couldn't afford to pay someone to do it for me. So begins my journey to get clean and powerful mixes. As you have said you have to learn a LOT of things, not just what the mixing tools do, but also details like the difference between linear phase and zero latency eq, how those affect the sounds differently, when and what to use them on. After learning all that you have to train your ear to hear everything whats going on, and then make decisions... Only this year are my mixes consistently satisfactory. I can't say I regret learning it all though, it's very all interesting to me, the one thing it has hurt is my creativity because I am always mixing as I create. However your video Organizing yourself for the creative moment has pushed me to change my workflow which is working better. Keep making these videos! The people need to know!

I really can't understand why someone spreads negativity through comments Marko. Unfortunately people don't appreciate the knowledge, and the hard work you offer for free.The only thing they want is free advice on how to be a super star ,or how to produce number 1 hit for beatport.Don't let negativity affect you.You're top class producer and a lot of people appreciate you,your music, and this attempt to educate upcoming or even experienced producers.Because knowledge never stops. Great video once again.All the best from me.Keep it up!

Sve ovo što si naveo je razlog zašto nisam ništa objavio ni završio kako treba svih ovih godina. A učim već 15ak godina sigurno, sam. Možda i neću nikad ništa objaviti, tko zna. Barem ne dok ne budem zadovoljan zvukom. Nisam profesionalac, još manje stručnjak i radim to iz čiste ljubavi i za moj uži krug ljudi. Jedino što me vodi je uho i ništa drugo nemam osim toga. I jednu stvar moram priznati. Zvuk se promjenio s tobom, nakon tvojih prvih tutoriala. Svih ovih godina što sam gledao, čitao, istraživao, nitko dosada nije ovako iskreno, sa ovoliko srca i žara prenosio svoje znanje. I ne sumnjam u tvoje motive ni najmanje. Hvala ti na svemu Marko, od ovih tutoriala, pa preko tvoje muzike koja je sami vrh u svijetu, do tvojih nastupa kojima se uvijek radujem. Nevjerojatna količina inspiracije dolazi upravo od tebe. Kapa do poda za sve što radiš i veliki pozdrav iz Osijeka.

Bro, don't hesitate or apologise to ask some money for 'psychedelic tips' or other coming projects. You put a lot of work and energy in it and it is a nice occupation for yourself to see if you can create something other than a track or album. Learning some new skills: like talking on camera, editing video's, sharing complicated information in english in an understandable way. Making some money on it is part of the fun of the whole thing. You are doing a good job for yourself! I never came across a channel that gave so much quality information on producing, for free. If people watched all this and still act like a bunch of ungrateful leeches then it's about time to shake them off. Thanks for all the work, the music and the good times! Wishing you all the best for the future!

Perfectionism kills creativity. I try not to dream about success but to enjoy the process of creation. And i already got more sucess then i ever imagined. The most important thing for musik making is to have a healthy mindset that minimises creative resistance and fear of failure. That works well if its not about money ^^

This is one of the most honest videos about the truth of the path we all go through. Big respect!

You are absolute right in what you say. This kind of music was the most developed in history of all the music made before.That is my believe and when I hear what you say than I know that I'm right.I started making Psychedelic Trance in 2012-2013 and today I can say that I have the knowlege to make good sounding qualaty music by learning and watching many tutorials.I give my best for making good Sound. You are one of the greatest Producer out there,because all your newer Stuff had so much Energy that was unbeliveble.Greetings from Germany your Tardis

Life is kind of funny, I am just fumbling around trying to figure things out and I watched this video. I appreciate the candid explanation of what it takes to get to where you want to go. This was something that I needed to hear. Just today I was reaching out to find someone close to me that could help me understand a little better, I had my doubts if that was the right thing to do, then I listened to you. It makes sense that nothing good ever comes easy. You have given me some inspiration to keep at it. Thank you for passing on knowledge that you gained over the years.

youtube is full of content.. but this is realy valuable one..

Marko, thanks to be so honest with us. I purchased Psychedelic tips 1 and 2 and I didn't want to be a top producer or something like that. I'm 47, I've my job but I love electronic music and I would like to create something interesting, but not for the rest of people, just to me, because I love this music and I love to be in front of my computer just enjoying time trying it. So for me what are you doing with these free videos in your RU-vid channel and Psychedelic tips is amazing. You're trying to explain us how works this complicated world, so I just want to thank you a lot all you're doing.

I'll tell you something Eclip, I think that more than "killing my dreams" you motivate me, and you give me good news

Thank you. The quality of psytrance production changed my life.. I've always looked at it as a life long journey.. There is so much to learn.. AND we all have to eat, so.. Reality.. Ehh haha.

Great video. I had to stop making music just so I can relearn how to listen. I would make that the one of the first things to learn. How to listen and identify like a sculptor sculpting clay. Become one with the clay and then the portal is open and the creative energy connection with our divinity makes up for any other perceived lack. :) I also stopped making music for the purpose of sale so that I can truly be myself and let that come through. I am a creative person as far as music goes, yet my productions sound dated and the energy was less than the current expecting listener. Your kick and bass tut's have helped me a lot. Thank you.

Strong and true video. I think , the path you talk about... the path did choose you not you did choose the path. I have many friends , they produce music , some of them rather good , some of them have infinte creativity but rather weak technical aspect. I started making music a 5-6 years ago and just wanted to have some fun , i wasnt even listening to electronic music , i just wanted to have fun. But the interest , to know every technique , just those little things , is an addiction. Im not somewhere near my peak i want to reach , i dont know if this peak exists. But I enjoy exploring and learning all those techniques , like u offer on Psychedelic Tips , im the first one to buy and i watch those things for years , over and over again , because u learn something new each single time. I would love to make money with all this , im sure i will find my neche to go for , even if not as an artist. But the point is , i love the technical world and thats why i cant stop and wont stop. Of course it is hard , and of course there is no secret weapon , u are a moron if u think there is. The only thing that makes u great at something is unbreakable endless passion for what u do , no matter the fame or money u can earn from it , u do it , because u want to do and u have the will no matter what.

keep going man, thank you very much for all the knowledge sharing.

Appreciate the honesty!

thanks again for share your knowledge and experience!!!

Appreciate your openness, honesty and all your generous sharing on this channel :)

Your videos are so useful!! Grateful that you share your knowledge the way you do..!

Great video, and a much needed subject. Eclip is providing the best psytrance related content on youtube. Keep on! The video on sampling changed the way I make music.

thank you brother. Very professional, very informative; gonna watch more of your videos!!

Thank you so much , good advice in this vid .

Your videos are always inspiring. I'm incredibly appreciative of the information that you're sharing with us.

Your videos are superbly informative and its really exciting to see new postings from you. I can't believe that any people that are truly interested in the type of content you are making would give you any negativity at all, perhaps those are just RU-vid "career" haters - your stuff is incredible, please know that there are people out here that are extremely grateful for your hard work in putting these videos out! Thank you!

thank you again dear Eclip

That is the best part of your videos mate, you always say the truth. It is the best way to know the best way to reach our objetive and to plan how to reach it in a best and "fast" way.

Thank you for gifting me some of the knowledge that you have, I don’t produce psytrance or even trance but I still learn a lot from watching your content.

You're a legend man. This is the real content that people need to ear about. I also started back in 2012, when I came home from Boom Festival and had an enlightment :) I already had background in djing at partys, But needed to experiment on writting my own music. And to this day I steel feel that I cant come close to you guys, that have years and years of experience. Great words. REally enjoyed this one. Greetings and stay safe :)

Without any doubt this is the best channel on RU-vid! I appreciate your work and effort. Thank you

I think that different ganres require different skill set. For example when I practice bass music and the "usual" edm ganres it was much easier then now when I retured to my passion which is Psytrance. I think and believe that good and complex Psytrance music is just an extremely hard ganre to master in all that is required to be able to create amazingly hypnotizing sounding tracks like the big artis are making (such as Astrix, Bliss, Infected mushroom etc...). As someone who have listened to Psytrance since I can remember myself and only at the age of 24 years old realized that to produce this music is something that I want to do in my life, I want to thank you Eclip. You are a true individual, that I can sence and see that have a lot to give to people and is doing it in a very unique and individualistic way. Greetings from Israel brother,🙌 Hope to see you perform here or in another place one day and maybe even get to the point in which collaboration is possible! Maybe in a 15 years ah?😜

You are doing grat job !!! keep it up, sending love

Ur such an inspiration and I think ur are amonge the few onse I realy take for serious on tips and trix about psytrance audiomixning... Thnx a lot for ur tutorials

Marko, you are so right about everything! I would say this: Imagine you want to be a doctor or mechanical engineer. And you start to learn all that things online. How to do surgical procedure or how to make a good and safe car. And when you start exploring, you notice that is a more then a scalpel and screw. My point is, people go to college to be audio engineer. That's how hard it is to be good music producer. Keep up with good work! Živ bio!

I love mixing

I just watched your video befor starting the mixing of my last track hahah !! Full support E-clip and big vibe for you and your music ! Thanks a lot !

Thanks for sharing this great experience with us 🥰 you are the one and only reason that i turned my youtube notifications "on" 😅 what you are trying to pass us is honest and unique pure experience and cant be compared with other tutorials on youtube , keep up the good work , stay safe happy energic ❤

Thank you Bro!

Love you Bro

You're so right.... it's the harsh reality! Löve your videos.

Thanks, for sharing the honest thoughts. If you want something you need to put the time into it - so true!

Your advice is so damn true, I know how much I have struggled with the mixes. For sure paying someone if you don't want to learn is a great tip

thanks a lot, you are a very good person. i hope one day i can thank you pernsonally for al the knowledge you share. all good for you my friend

As long as i enjoy making music i will keep investing in it I dont care if it sounds professional. I just like the process and enjoy learning always new things. Even if i dont have the equipment now, i still enjoy it and one day i know i will have it and then if people like my music i dont care, really. All i can see is that each track gets better and im always happy to discover new things with critical listening My main goal is to have fun

I produced for 7 years, almost every day, trying to improve every day and I came to the conclusion that 7 years is nothing. I ended up giving up, I wasted too much time with this, days and days closed at home trying to achieve quality. But I still follow your videos, they are in a way inspiring for me. I am happy to know that my invested time was really part of the process of something that I have not finished. The process was super painful. Thanks for sharing this information, sometimes it is better to watch this type of videos than others, this is information that no one from. Everyone thinks that to be a producer, you only have to open a DAW, but nobody sees what's behind. Big hug for you.

Good Video man !, I learned so much from your video's and I don't mean only mixing tips and so on, more like the thinking about it and how it all comes together. Keep it up, thank you!

`Nicely Well Said Hatss Off to ur Videos and ur music

I enjoy your videos my brother. Thank you for your honesty. It's helped me to realize the importance of time because I also try to do everything myself - and that there's nothing shameful in paying someone to help with the things that you don't enjoy or don't have time for, for example the mixing & mastering. Thank you

thanks, thanks to your mixing process posted on your bass lines it helped me a lot, my songs have evolved about 5 years thanks to the knowledge passed by you. Thank you for helping me on my journey!

Thank you for all of your videos,you do a great job, because I am from Germany and my English is not the best, but your videos are so good to understand for me and you speak so clear words, thank you 🙏

Big thanks once again. I was looking forward to more video's. I understand that there's alot of work involved into them but as far as I'm concerned I just get a great positive feedback from watching ANY of your video's. My point being that you don't need to pressure yourself into providing high-end content in every video, I would love to watch videos where you just are having fun with some sounds and seeing your workflow and your explanations as you go through them. This proves very valuable aswell to many of us and it wouldn't put a big pressure on providing new content. I hope this makes sense. Looking forward

Lately my tracks started to clock at +60gb of data, thousands of processes!! taking 4X more time than i used to... you are so right. its a long road.

You are the most honest , Thank you

Great video, thank you for honest opinion!

a good dose of reality. much needed, thank you

Thanks a lot for this! It's a great pleasure to create music, but is really hard work to make it sound amazing, for sure. No sugar-coating, reality as it is, well done.

I have been producing actively for 4 years now and I came to the conclusion that there is indeed three secret formulas for good music: Time, patience, and a strong power of will. Not getting decent results even after 4 years, being frustrated about it etc. Is part of every of my producing sessions. But somehow I keep going and learning. If I listen to the music I did one year back I think "what the hell is this" and I am sure I will think the same in one year about the music I produce now. I'd say I know a thing or two about music production, but I am constantly reminded that I know indeed very little and that my path has just begun. Honestly, this is a video every producer shoud watch and it is good to encurage beginners. I can't tell oftne enough how much I appreciate that you want to share your knowledge with everyone. Even though I am using a different DAW, these videos help me a lot. So thank you :)

LIVE YOUUUR LIFEE!! Great video... awsome stuff i have the same strive, bought the tips a week ago. I am sure this helps a lot of people including me. And i think the power of this new generation is that we have stuff like you and these courses, so the process is hard but effective. THANK YOU! :D

Nothing wrong with advertising yourself man! You spent the time, if people want the course, they can spend the money or make the decision to not. I also appreciated the frank discussion of how difficult the journey was for you. I feel like the struggle isn't discussed that much, so it's interesting to see a big producer share their experience. Thank you!

uooou! thxxxxx so much

Thank you

Psytrance and techno are both probably the hardest to get a solid mixdown and make a track work. A lot of sound design and production and you can't just rely on presets if you want a cohesive sound, you need to make the sound that fits

big respect to you

There is no free lunch and you can do whatever you want. Appreciate you sharing your experiences

You're a good man. Don't let people tell you any different by the negative comments. Reality checks are keeping us into the right direction.

I started working in audio engineering back in the 1990s. But despite that knowledge I still had a huge amount to learn to even have a label consider my tracks. E-Clip is 100% spot on, but don't be put off. If you break down every little task, say for driving a car, it would seem overwhelming. The secret here is what he said about countless hours in the studio. If you are passionate and enjoy the little details, then even in a few months you'll progress. I only used zero latency and linear phase on my EQ for the first year, not really understanding when to use natural phase, or even what they meant. That's the fun part in my opinion. Learning the details. Oh and the plugins! Adding a reverb? If only it were as simple as using Valhalla.... or is it? :)

Thank you Master!

I think it is a motivational video to encourage and strive learning, a life lesson is that there is only the hard way if you are passionate about music or what ever you love to do. I really enjoy your videos. Love from Sweden.

legend

You are a legend! Thank you SO much for all the knowledge you pass on!! One thing, if I may say: I've been producing (OK, at the beginning there were no much producing 😂) Psytrance music for almost 10 years and I cannot agree with you more.. BUT, if the path to were you want to get, in any area, is frustrating then don't do it unless it makes you happy.. Again, THANKS!!!!

Think there might be some talented producers they learn really fast but the majority needs much more time. I produce serious since 2013 and i'm still not happy with the outcome. It takes so much time to learn all of it but for me it is worth because i love what i do and i have a half time job. And as more music you make as higher your self expectations will be because you ears are getting better much faster as your production. Thank you for your honesty, for me its the best production content on youtube. What i would love is an uncutted project from you, no other does that and i think it would help alot of people to watch the full process with WOW moments and fails. I would pay for it :)

I do exactly the same thing and it really save my time to work on new tracks . Be noticed that two (or 3 including master engineer) pople idea for track creation is better than only you 👌🏽

Thank you, for real.

Браво мајсторе, свака част! Ентер д воид је заправо био албум преко кога сам те заволео (но хомо). Поздрав из Ниш бе бате!

and if u can make a video on arrangment :)

Well Said.

Nice bro

Your videos are fantastic man, even for producers of different genres like me, thanks a lot!

Don't listen to the negative comments, your videos help so many people! keep it up :)

AMAZING!! The harsh and honest truth!! You really have to be aware of the hard path and the commitment if you are a new producer as most people have no idea . Ive been producing and study production in and out for the past 20 years and in the past five in a more consintent way. I really think most peaple have no idea of the knowledge involved to to a superior sounding track. I was never brave enough to release anything as sound wise my songs were never good enough at least for me. I have a totally different line of business and never depended nor intended to depend on music for a living as some people intend to do. Having said that i was fortunate enough to have someone who invite me to participate in a compilation for a well known label wich is due soon. Even so there will be a mix done by a well known professional. As a new producer you should really be aware of what it takes to get there. Looking forward for your video about promotion and carear which is the other big and probably the most important thing if you wana be a musician. By the way your tutorials are awesome as your inspiring music. Big thanks

Word 🙏🏽

this video acctually motivated me bro, in a strange way, but i feel less lost now...

The secret is there is no secret, just hard work and knowing how music production works. I agree mastering should be left to professionals when making music for commercial use- movies/tv/labels/etc. But most of us are not career professional musicians that need that. Any good DAW has enough mastering tools for the non career musician to make very good sounding tracks, if they take some time to learn some of the mastering craft.

To me this has been a hobby for 20 years now so I'm not worried about rushing to keep up with it Just practice practice ....

thnk u for the honesty i baghot your psycedelictips2 and i larend a lot and stil lerning from your you tube chaneel keep on the good work and the good vibe much love and appreciation...

Real recognize's real

Thank you for your wise words. I agree with you from a pure production perspective paying people to do the aspects that take time works out. The other perspective to trying to do as much yourself is that if you're looking for a career in music being as versatile as you can be can lead to many other opportunities. My journey was to play the bongos which lead to gigs (income) then I wanted to learn notation of the rhythms which led me to start teaching (income) then I wanted to make my own music so started with Ableton to release my tracks (income) then started to learn mixing which I'm not very good at but it meant I knew my way around a mixing desk at studios (income) then I learnt online marketing (income) that lead to video creation (income) now people have seen I can do all this I work for a music charity and I'm funded (income). It's because of all these long processes that as someone like me that has NO qualifications at all you can have a career in music. So few people make any money just from releasing music now that I'm not sure how realistic it is. I know classically trained musicians that are working for Amazon deliveries because they didn't go through the pain you describe and diversify. I also think the pain you went through is the reason I'm sitting here watching YOUR video and not others. I think the pain is worth it. I agree though it's a long path.

Thanks to you and all other youtuber for sharing knowledge. Maybe u don't get much money for that but nice karma ;) seriously, for me producing music is therapy. U and the other nice youtuber help to make this therapy more efficient :)

you are just a good man

It's no shame to earn some money! I'm very greatful for your tips & tricks and that should everybody else be also!.

Sir , you’re an amazing artist and moreover a better person , let those comments bug your videos . Sure they will kick you in away to get even better🔥🙏🏻 There are always elements which are nonsense

Great work Bro dont worry about bad vibes from ppl..you share your knowlegde with us and that is great help !! By the way Im planning to Buy some gear to start I just can afford at the moment a focal alpha 7 monitors , a good PC , a synth, AND looking for a medium audio interface, which one would you recomiend, apogee duet, Apollo twin? Rme babyface?? Hugs from México!!

Thanks Man)how similar are our stories

Hello Marko, tell us about the treatment of the room, what are the traps of what they are made of and how you set up the monitors

Thanks a lot for this video, it's amazing to hear someone with your level of skills and experience talking about how he walked through this path. BUT! I think "Into The Void" is one of the best produced and mixed psytrance albums ever, I can't believe you weren't happy with mixing on this one. Honestly, to me it sounds better than "modern" very clean psytrance sound.

I would say overall just without even thinking about it, the way to make a really amazing track, you put together like 10 different baselines, that work with the track, and then you pick the one out of all ten thats works the best and then do that with each of the other parts, now I'm not saying you can't sit down and create a amazing loop by throwing in sounds and quickly using your ear, but if you're really trying to make an amazing track taking the time to make sure each part is absolutely amazing in my mind would only make sense.

2:46 I believe this is the secret ! :)