The SECRET to Escaping the Death Run EARLY in Oblivion 

That's interesting. They usually keep NPCs essential until they have to die as part of a quest so it's rare to see that message of an important character dying. They even put a fail-safe. It's always cool to discover new things about this game after all these years.

"We dodge the traps", meanwhile shouting painfully during that dodge.

I remember the first time I did this quest, it glitched, forcing me to reload. When I tried it again, I had the bizarre experience of stepping into the fort only to have all of the hunters somehow kill themselves on the traps. That only happened the one time. I did not know the secret path about killing Aleron, though.

*starts this quest as a level xx psychopatic stealth archer, daedra summoning, destruction master axe murderer* Oh no, I'm not locked in with you- you're locked here with me! *Doom music starts playing*

Dude I love this channel so much. Thank you for pumping out content for all my favorite games. Everyone else is obsessed with new games. I love the oblivion content, Diablo content, etc. Makes me feel young again. These kids today have no idea how good games used to be.

I love the quests in Oblivion and always oddly liked this one...Probably because if you wait until a higher level its a great way of obtaining really high level gear same with the Malacath quest where you free the Ogres

Wait there's another way out? Oh...you have to kill Aleron? That's not very nice. I'd rather be noble and avenge his death. 🙁🙁

Oblivion content is so rare now days

Poor Aleron and Ursanne... Also I've always loved this quest and the storytelling in your videos, well done! ^^

Aleron didn't sheathe the sword; you actually disarmed him when you hit him while he was blocking because he ran out of stamina. Interesting though that the developers thought to do this instead of making him essential until the point in the quest where the tag is no longer needed

You're my fav for Elder Scrolls content. I like hearing you narrate a quest I have forgotten about or when you share a secret I never heard. It's like playing the game again but with a buddy. Thanks, man!

Not only do you seem to RP your game the same way I do, talking to NPCs in more detail than the options allow, but it seems you're a much better detective. I never knew there was a "shortcut" through this quest. Awesome uploads, m8. Cheers much!

When I saw Kurdain kill Aleron I didn't even give him time to talk. I just started attacking. An interesting thing is when you do this the archer doesn't appear. I'm guessing that the sight of my khajiit running out swinging her axe madly and screaming with rage made him reconsider. "Screw this. I'm not getting in the way of that psycho."

Love waking up to see you upload nothing like watching some amazing narration over my favourite game. Also your use of alteration is fantastic I was always a fan of it in writing.

You should do the Mazoga the orc quest in leyawin or the dragonian Madstone quest by the countess of…would it be Bruma? Lol. The mages guild quests are good too like finding Jskar & the lady who buys a staff & is tormented by scamps following her around constantly! There is also a mages guild where you have to rescue someone who has been lost in their own dreams, that was quite a creepy one!

I am a seasoned adventure in many elder scrolls games but I am always thrilled to see quests I missed. Great stuff as always Dash!

I'm still amazed that Dark can get me interested in stuff that I either forgot about completely (Oblibion tidbits) or never cared about at all (I never played or heard of Kain back in the day). I'd listen to this man narrate my lawn mower's instruction manual.

I LOVE all your content dude. Wish you the best man.

Love your videos, always a good time sitting down and eating a meal while watching. Keep it up! :)

I love how you go above and beyond to create a great story

You seriously have a talent for finding the story and just about anything. I really appreciate these videos, thank you. If you ever make Morrowind content I’ll die a happy man lol

Amazing narration. These are live stories in here for. Subbed

I love all the Oblivion content!

I just found this channel and I'm just mad that I didn't find it sooner your videos rock! oblivion is one of my favourite games (I'm replying it atm) I've subscribed and shared your fantastic channel with friends and family thank you for all your hard work ❤

I dream so much of an Oblivion Remake 4K 120 FPS

Loved this quest. First time I played it Auriel's Ascension started to sound when Aleron was murdered. I've never felt more invested in a videogame story than that time. The music thing also happened when Mazoga told me her background, maybe that's why I love both quests.

Very good narrative. Well done

I'd be interested seeing you cover some of the daedric quests. The tone you bring to these videos i think would match a lot of those quests.

I'd never even heard of half these quests without this channel

Kurdan: lucky I ain't making you swim...Me: Lucky you ain't eatin your own balls with that attitude lol 🤣

Doing Hunters' Run at L25+ is one of the few sure ways of getting both a glass and a daedric helmet,

Love the oblivion videos!

Oblivion just had better side quests all around. Skyrim was 70% go into cave and kill the daugers with the occasional drinking contest with a daedric prince but Oblivion from its main quest, guild quests and side quests were all so unique that you could be doing the same game mechanics but you'd be immersed into a new story.

Love how seriously he takes this even with one of (in my opinion) silliest games in the series

A delightful story, just in time for bed. Thank you kindly.

I remember the first time I did this quest. I couldn't figure out how to escape the fort. I spent ages running around not noticing the lever to unlock the door lol.

A half bottle of vodka and a good video

You have to be careful about killing the orc to fast, let him talk or sometimes it will lock on not having the key even if you do and leave, it makes it incompletable.

I have altered the deal; Pray I do not alter it further.

Love the commentary

I appreciate your apt alliterations

Interesting that the cut voice-line shows that apparently the original quest design was that she knew Aleron is on the island, bc the player doesn't know until you get there.

Greatings imperial brother 😊

Aaaaand nooooooooooow I wanna play Oblivion again. Thank you!

Right before you go inside to inform her I love how you see the listener talking with the the night mother lmao

One of the best games that I played in my life. I remember as a kid in 2006 this was a insane game and until now sometimes I go to play Oblivion. For me this game will be nr 1 all the life.

You have an awesome voice and strong vocabulary. It’s like you were meant to do videos like this especially on elder scrolls games lmao

Kurdan won't talk to you if he hates you... But if he likes you, he'll lead you through his death game... What a psychopath.

I love your roleplay before responding

First time i did the quest i didnt see Aleron in the fort (it was dark and the door into the interior is in your line of sight after the first gate) so i went in and went through the whole place. Confused i left and saw him standing outside. Got the update, spawned the hunters... only to find two of them dead from gas lol I love this game

this is why i always carry a few magical paintbrushes lol

What mods have you used for the visuals fam?

Why does it matter if the Orcs neck was broken, he didn't fall to his death, he was dead before he hit the ground lol.

Great quest. Skyrims are so so dull in comparison

I realized that I've never played this game normal before. I min maxed so hard that 90% of the enemies were one shot kills.

I know this has nothing to do with the video but how do people make their health and magicka bars look like that? Mine look different so i'm just curious. Very entertaining video btw.

15:38 I saw this video in my feed when it was at 400 views ahahaha, should've watched it sooner, early Gang bruh, other than that, this timestamp jogged my memory, isn't this an old video? Was this video reposted? ( After seeing the end, I think that's why this video feels familiar, it had already been covered by Dash in another video I'd watched)

U know there is a 3rd missing option because if you use stun spell or voice emperor or some sort aoe spell to stop, u might able change it but then again the dev didn't add it but underline missing script in the game

this quest killed my first character if i remember correctly aleron didnt spawn in the keep and the door to the dungeon was locked so i had no way to progress and when i tried again later the either the save was corrupted or my disc was just scratched in a way it crashed when i tried to load in.

And here I thought it was going to be something like using fortify acrobatics to jump the walls of the fort.

"Greetings imperial brother" - I got bug for my breton pc with this voice line and like "bruh".

Your voice is all I hear in elder scrolls games now

Im pretty sure its not the devs making a failsafe, the key is on his person when you get to the island, so it makes sense it would be in his inventory regardless. This is why you dont meet Kurdan once locked inside the ruins until after you do the run in the first place, so you dont have an opportunity to get the key beforehand. If the devs wanted to give you a cheat or alternative way to end it early they would have left the key in his inventory normally, *before* you get to the island so you could pickpocket the key from him beforehand, allowing you to open the gate after getting in the ruins before doing the run. Although the player normally wouldnt be none the wiser to knowing they would need a key or any of that, but a lucky skilled thief would benefit from such a scenario. This also means they would have had to make an alternate set of dialogue and alternate quest ending to allow the option of Aleron to survive the run which clearly was never intended, or if it was it was cut from the game. But Id guess it was cut very early on otherwise modders would have had enough unused resources to make this possible as a cut content mod.

There should have been an ending for Pickpickets who preemptivle steals the Key off the Orc

video starts at 23:33

What's your other channels name?

I still wonder if it’s possible to just kill the orc before even heading to the island. Or somehow killing him with an arrow or magic before he kills aileron

Is it possible to save Aleron if you're quick enough?

nice upload but is the game too bright?

Can't help but notice Grogon was a one-hit kill in the fail-safe.

I heard about this second ending to this quest not long ago. Definitely a strange approach from developers. Also it's quite sad Aleron can't be saved. Am I the only one thinking, that if Aleron simply stood near that gate, he could literally be saved right at the start? I mean you do open the gate before you get trapped in the fort so he could've simply ran away and be freed. He even is outside of the Fort after all, just not near the gate. Obviously the quest would be quite pointless, if it was that easy.

Is it impossible to complete the quest by saving Aleron? It seemed like there was a small margin of time between opening the doors and Aleron being struck dead. Maybe if you aggro him, make him pick up the sword, and then go kill the hunters, could he fare better against Kurdan? Long enough, at least, to kill Kurdan first.

It's always sad learning that Aleron didn't bet on me becoming champion.

I remember coming in here, to find everyone in very high class armor, I think it was deadric or Glass. And i got destroyed for like 2 hours.

Feel bad that you can't take Aleron out of that hell hole in someway, seen like he must dieto the mission progress in someway. but still weird how the dev made that fail-safe situation when you kill Aleron, Kurdan jus appear behind you like nothing happen.

Ah I remember this quest from my first oblivion playthrough as an orc. I didn't want to kill any fellow orcs for roleplay reasons but this one made me break my creed

I remember being able to save Aleron though... I don't know if younger me had it on near to easy difficulty (which isn't like me at all) or a high marksman stat with a special arrow and/or bow but I do remember saving him ..

9:31 🤣

Damn, why is the video so bright?

I was hoping that there was a way to call out the Orc and save Aleron. I guess it wasn't meant to be...

9:33 well, etch-a-sketch maybe...

What kind of elf was the usurer?

Couldn't you just pickpocket the key before you go to the island?

24:20 there's a chance the sword had low durability and you damaged it to 0, maybe?

It's interesting that they set a failstate trap for this case as, unless the Orc's script at the end breaks without Aleron alive, there's no reason to. With the gate locked and no other option but to enter the dungeon, players would be forced to go through the gauntlet anyway, just without the complete context as to why. Worse, Imagine roleplaying a chaotic neutral character, or reacting appropriately to someone surrounded by dead bodies, and the game pulls this little 4th wall break. Kinda seems like this micro-quest was someone's linear darling and they simply couldn't handle the idea of it not playing out exactly as intended.

Could you jump over the wall if you have a high agility and the boots of Springhill Jack?

There is a mod for saving Aleron since it is the dumbest thing that they forcibly freeze you so you can't do anything to save him, just as dumb as the Blades in Skyrim requiring you to kill Paarthurnax even though they are sworn to serve the Dragonborn...

Noice 👍😎

The next elder scrolls better have quest failures. I miss having to save before important moments in case a NPC dies that's important and I gotta restart it. Loved that shit, made it immersive in a sense....not like this Skyrim "they're just taking a knee" that I've seen oh so often 😒

wait another way to bet this mission? neat

weird that they left this debug way to complete the quest in, i think they just forgot to mark aleron as essential and unmark him during the scene where he's killed

So what value is the book reward?

They really need a gold and silver currency to the elder scrolls. Buying a loaf of bread with 5 gold coins is abit much

oblivion quest where so much better then skyrims

I wish there was a way to save Aleron.

Yoooo, sorry dont mean to bother you, planning on doing more Legacy of kain games? I loved that shit, but I dont want to play the games :'D

So, when Aleron gets killed, does the game lock your character in place like a cutscene? it looks like you have a small moment of opportunity to shoot Kurdan with an arrow and get his attention and could possibly save Aleron.

Norrrrr

Is it possible to save his life though?

Wife of the year.