@@ronbrock6153 I noticed that too. But there's something special about not using any CGI. Someday, someone will try to make a movie in the future with no CGI. This part of the film must have cost a lot of money - shutting down all those streets.
The Granville was a 455 4 barell duel exhaust with standard bias ply H78 15 tires, Ventura, PONTIAC 350 2 barell Had factory duel exhaust, interior gutted foam rubber pading, plexiglass windshield and windshield pillars were cut at the dash so the roof would peal back. Pontiac supplied the cars for this movie and the 71 Le Mans in the French Connection. The final accident with the Ventura was staged on the Tachonic Pkwy. Millwood N.Y. exit ramp. In 73-75 I was the Yard manager for Saw Mill Auto Wreckers Yonkers NY. These cars were hauled in to be scrapped ! OH, I bought the Ventura engine and trans for my 66 Le Mans daily driver.. Little bit of History for you guys LOL
All the granvill's had 4555 4bbl. and duel exhaust. The down scaled Bonneville had 455 2bbl single exhaust. had 2 order duels unless opted for 4 bbl, then again duels included
The Ventura also has the somewhat unusual (for X-bodies) F-41 suspension option . Giveaway is the rear sway bar. The option also included a larger front bar, stiffer springs and shocks.
Hey Rob, Hickman, Lynch and Schieder were so good in this! I’m a big Bill Hickman fan what a storied life that man had. One of the saddest days of Bill’s life was when He was following his good friend James Dean when Dean and his Spyder collided with Donald Turnupseed. Hickman about 60 seconds behind Dean was the first to get to Dean before he died. Hickman held Dean in his arms at the crash as he died.
One of those gritty,1970's car chases that I would end up recreating on the living room floor with my Matchbox cars.... This gets me more excited than any Fast & Furious movie ever did!
HAHA! I used to do the same thing! I didn't have very many Hot Wheels or Matchbox cars, but I would recreate whatever I saw in movies on TV. I remember wanting a Mustang so bad for recreating the Bullitt chase. I would build big humps in the floor using my Highlights books and dictionaries and then ramp the cars off of those humps to simulate the huge jumps on the San Francisco streets in Bullitt. LOL Aaaaaahhhhh......good times.
***** He sure did, and he was an amazing looking guy (by that I mean interesting) I bet he could tell you some stories, he also looked like a guy you wouldnt want to tick off.
Yeah, Nobody could whip those front heavy, non braking, non handling 70s sleds around the corners like him. Incredible control, these"drifting" guys can't hold a candle to him.
There were two elements that made this particular car chase stand out from many other chases. 1. The "bad guy" in the passenger seat (played by Richard Lynch, RIP), appears to be getting stressed by their drive through certain parts of the city, including passing through a group of kids playing in a side road. Generally, bad guys are portrayed as single-minded and uncaring, obviously Lynch's character wasn't quite so much the automaton. 2. At the conclusion of the chase, Roy Scheider's character looked like he had been in an accident, unlike the stereotypical good guy survives without even a scratch. It's too bad that the movie industry lost two great actors such as these, especially in light of how the public has been fed crap acting the past decade or so.
This car chase pushed the art to another level..Except for The Driver, i have both. Though this always did it for me. And Bill Hickman haulin that Grand ville......
Lynch wasn’t faking it - he really was scared during the chase scenes. The crash at the end wasn’t supposed to happen; Buddy (Roy Scheider) was supposed to slam to a stop short of the truck. But the stunt went wrong and the car plowed under the bumper. The scene with the driver helping a battered Buddy out of the wrecked car was in essence improvised.
I argued with someone once how much better the Bullitt car chase was than some dumb Star Wars cgi pod race thing they thought was so great. They just don't understand.
+Vedran Čižić Hickman also did the driving in the French Connection. Also was driving the trailer for James Dean's Porsche when he crashed it back in the 50s.
+hamtrak I thought it was him- same guy driving the charger in Bullit, right? that guy seriously kicked ass as a stunt driver, especially with those big old boats they drove back then
+hamtrak I'm not surprised, Bill Hickman was a great, maybe the greatest ever, stunt driver but he also rather appears to have been a complete lunatic who really enjoyed scaring the pants off actors. Maybe it was a way of getting revenge for his relative lack of success as an actor. Maybe it was just that he favoured the realistic, gritty, white knuckle style of car scenes...
As a professional stunt driver, Bill Hickman knew and understood the kinds of punishment that a car could take and still keep going. And he used that knowledge to great effect. He really rocked it.
It's pretty remarkable that this gentleman, the late Bill Hickman, was the principal driver in this as well as Bullitt and The French Connection, three of the most remarkable and iconic chase sequences ever filmed. Quite a legacy for a profession (Stunt man) that is all too often an anonymous one. Also, bearing in mind, that this was before digital editing made this sort of thing a hell of a lot easier to do. Incredible risks were taken to produce these classic scenes.
He had more than 100 other roles as well, including General Patton's driver in "Patton"...In real life he was the first on the scene of James Dean's fatal car wreck...
Watched it in 1977 in my uncle's basement in Toronto. I was 16 then and was overwhelmed by the plethora of local tv channels and the ones from Buffalo and Rochester NY that played almost 24/24 crime movies tv shows etc. This one in particular along with the Getaway made so huge impression on me that i still get goosebumps by just hearing or reading the title.
❤❤❤--->watched this at the VILLAGE movie theatre . One huge screen when it first came out in owings mills Maryland . Best days of me life . What I remember was ; when he hits the back end of that trucker ?? It was a REAL STUNTMAN in that car !! No CGI or fake crap !! All of this was a real car and car noises .
This era will never be topped. The cars are not plastic, they sound like cars should sound, no annoying theme music for the background, just the sound of what a car chase should be. Awesome.
Like all movie chase scenes, the engine noises and other sounds you hear were sourced from other recordings and dubbed in later during the post production process. The sounds you hear in the movie were not made made by the vehicles on the screen.
This, The French Connection, and Bullitt contain IMO 3 of the greatest chase scenes ever filmed, past or present. No stupid music tracks, no gratuitous effects and over cutting, just great action and great natural sound.
+Freddy Chale iv been trying to find a movie from this era. Its got a crazy scene with a blue harley chopper being chased by two police cars through sf and it ends at twin peaks. the motorcycle stunt man is wearing a black leather jacket and the chopper has a baby blue tank. Anyone know what im talking about?
707lurks Couldn't tell you much... But somehow it sounds familiar- You're not talking Easy Rider w Peter Fonda right? Bike gang travelling through the US?
Check this.. jalopnik.com/the-ten-fakest-movie-car-chases-ever-filmed-1041183590 And the "legendary" DRIVEN is only on 2nd.place. I wonder who is the one on 1st. No idea what that film is... CHEERS!
+Patrick Keough Yep. Post fuel crisis cars like these, big blocks or not made next to no power. They last forever though, the internals were way overbuilt for the utter lack of compression they had.
Richard Lynch's reactions were real, not acted - one of the few car chases where the bad guy wins - notice the truck driver doesn't say anything to Roy Scheider, just like man you are lucky to be alive
The Seven Ups is basically a really good sequel to the really great French Connection. Totally awesome and intense. Like one of cinemas best and longest and loudest car chases (arguably number one) that hardly if ever makes anyones best car chase lists. Like for some mysterious reasons unknown. Pathetically nowadays movie car chases will be mostly filmed fake on computer screens.
They used to use Pontiacs in a lot of car chase scenes. My dad told me it was because they smashed real well lol. And this is what happens when you get into a shoving match with a '73 GrandVille by the way. Why on earth...
Jack Johnson Maybe, I'm not really good on the particular year that car was, same with 68-72 novas, the differences are so subtle. Easily figured out on google though.
Bill Hickman, the man the myth, the late great legend, driving the big black Pontiac. Hollywood’s amazing stunt driver who drove the jet black 1968 Dodge Charger R/T in “Bullitt.”
I'm one of the lucky ones , meaning an old dude. I had a 64 1/2 Mustang (6cyl 3 speed but still), a 73 Nova 307 like this 74 Ventura but blue, a 56 Belair 2 door post, a blue 62 Galaxie, a white 66 Lemans (because it looked like a GTO but cheaper), a 67 Biscayne and a 70 Impala...all before I was 22 in 1978. Those were the days man. I wouldn't trade those memories for another 10 years of life.
I worked for a pontiac dealer 68-72. Needed a tow car for my 66 GTO , ordered a 71 Le Mans Wagon 455 H.O. . Pontiac did not want to build the car. Zone rep made a special order 7 months later I got it. Only 455 HO wagon built... I still have the wagon and 66GTO
How could I forget?? At 1:38 you'll see a quick shot of a 64 Malibu, I had one in 1974 as my first legal car that was a 6 with 3 on the tree and my old 65 Catalina teal 4 door boat with the Marijuana decal on the back glass I had in 1976. How I never got stopped was a miracle. That car rode as smooth as my 78 Eldorado I had in 1997.
2:22 watch that big ol' Pontiac bouncy bouncy bouncy! And watch for the recurring Pinto as well. Roy Scheider, RIP dude. You were so good in everything you did.
@@johnnersinger5075 See and hear this clip of the Bullitt chase, clearly the sound was dubbed: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-no7XR7s8Z7o.html
1973 Pontiac Venturas with the the stock 350 4 barrel were fast cars. Not many people know about them. They fell between the cracks during that horsepower crunch of the seventies. Definitely a sleeper if there ever was one.
Like the Blues Brothers said, no catalytic converters and emission control to choke the performance. At the peak of muscle cars, Chrysler and GM often underrated their engine (probably for lower insurance premium for their customers) its ironic now some of the automakers overrated the engine horsepower for marketing purpose.
Yep, they all did it for lower insurance premiums, but I know the various GM divisions also did it because GM had certain rules about how much HP a car could have compared to its weight. A GTO with a 400 would be rated at 365 HP, while the exact same engine in a Firebird would be rated at 320 HP.
He was not always driving. I read somwwhere that in the scenes shot from the back seat of the Mustang, if the rear view mirror was down and you saw McQueen, he was driving. If the mirror was up and you didn't see him, it was a stunt driver.
paktype Exactly. In some of the more dangerous manuevers of the "Bullitt" chase scene, Steve McQueen's substitute wheelman was legendary stunt driver Loren Janes.
***** I still love how they had to put the skinniest low traction 4 ply tires they could find on the charger just to keep that monster from pulling away from the mustang in every scene and he still was able to manhandle that big iron brick lol.
I don't know about that. Going for a run in a well set-up import performance RWD car on a touge or canyon run is pretty awesome. Something these big 70s cars couldn't pull off without going over a cliff.
+Douglas Lorin I think not. You've obviously never been in one of those big cars when it goes over a cross street at high speed like that. Small cars just don't have the mass to achieve the floating feeling of that. Their trip up and down is too abrupt and stiff. Those big cars have suspensions that made the car ride like a cloud so when you achieved that floating feeling you came back down on that excellent suspension and much bigger tires and it all absorbed the landing impact so beautifully. The physics of this just can't be achieved in those smaller cars with much smaller wheels and much lower profile tires. A few floats like this in one of those little tuner cars and the tires would rupture and the suspension would be shot. The driver's back would be shot, too.
Al Scarbrough Actually, I have been. My dad liked to take a particular cross street just outside the airport of Walterboro, SC in his 1984 Buick sedan. We would hit it just right and grab a bit of air. Had to be careful on the speed since the road curved to the left with a line of trees. Also, not all import performance cars are set up with stiff, zero-travel suspension, unless it is for the hellaflush/stance nonsense.
I love the expressions the killer wearing the ski cap puts on during this scene. Here's a ruthless cop-shooter but he's scared to death of Hickman's driver. I always thought this scene was an homage to the "Bullitt" scene with some comedy thrown in. Roy Scheider's expressions are great too.
This was my favourite car chase scene of all time, I just loved the way how the cars just let you hear the engine roar, and not forgetting the legendary stunt driver Bill Hickman who made car chases, tense and exciting in the movies that featured car chases he was in, this scene and car chase was a great example of that. Along with a few others. The seven ups is rated up with Bullit, The French Connection, MCQ, To Live and Die in LA, and Ronnin. And R.I.P to both actors..🙏🏾.
As is common in movie making for several reasons, the engine noises and other sounds were dubbed in during post production and were not made by the vehicles on the screen. During outside filming, sound is generally not recorded at all at the time of filming, or if it is recorded, it's nothing but ambient street noises and many times includes shouted directions and off camera chatter from crewmembers who know it's all going to be dubbed over anyway. They really didn't even do a very good job of making the sounds plausibly match what's on the screen, such as was mentioned already, all of the dramatic gear shifting noises supposedly made by an obvious automatic transmission vehicle. In real life, 18 wheelers don't even shift that much.
EXCELLENT! I always thought Roy Scheider was awesome and this was another role he played that proved it. I hadn't seen this movie for many years. It is an excellent movie. Those cars really were hauling you-know-what and they didn't use effects to make them look like they were. This is when REAL stunts were done and not the crap like you see in the Fast and Furious movies. This chase keeps you on the edge of your seat. Thanks for posting!
Al Scarbrough Definitely 52 Pick Up was ONE of my favorite movies that he did with Ann Margaret which was a SLEEPER movie aside from the great one s like this n the French Connection
I just looked up the curb weights on these cars. The 4 door sedan has almost 1600 lbs on the Ventura. I was shocked to read how light the Ventura/Novas we’re back then. Almost as light as my Camry
I don't know if u people who have watched this but the guy driving the black car is the same guy driving the black dodge charger in Bullitt guess in case u didn't know that....lol
Fun fact: the scene where Scheider's car smashes into the back of the truck shearing off most of the top portion of the car was Hickman's "homage" to the death of Jayne Mansfield.
You see how fast the door of that red car ricocheted after the crash? It was like a ballistic missile. Unless they had it on a tow wire so it wouldn't kill someone outside the scene (this was a live street chase)
That is correct especially those early 455's and would run away from just about everything back then ...Hell even now alot of cars cannot run with them i lived the ventura too i bet it had a 350 pontiac which plenty fast too small bore big block .
you're right, i stand corrected... deffinatly the same grille though... we used to have a 73 Catalina eons ago... was 350P automatic 4door, mint green. Also had a 71 bonneville with a 455
Just watched the Bullitt chase again. Love Steve McQueen but the Seven-Ups chase is still the best. Steve drove through virtually empty streets in San Francisco (few other cars and no pedestrians), this chase was much more realistic and exciting.
Classic car chases from shows and movies of the 1960s and 1970s are real and can't be beat vs today's Photoshop-editing and special effects chases. Another nice thing about those classics is they were used with true American cars. I can watch videos like this over and over again vs the latest Fast And Furious.
Not sure when this film was made but the driver also appears in Bullit .. Bill Hickman .. really good stunt driver.. the whole scene was reminiscent of the bullit car chase apart from Steve McQueen not crashing and the baddies were killed during the pursuit
Bad guy with a shotgun disassembles a hood from a 1970s car. Hahaha! I love it! This takes me back to the era of the all time best car chase scenes! Great movie!
Roy Scheider pounding on the steering wheel after they blast through the police barrier made me laugh. Love the frustration he exhibits in just that one bit.
Wow what a chase. Never seen before. Watching the iconic Bullitt chase led me to this. And the common denominator.. the legendary stunt driver Bill Hickman. (But I'm guessing you all knew that already 😂)
When I seen this at the Drive-in with my Dad...he said, 'this isn't a movie, this is how they drive in Toronto.' ha ha we both laughed hard. P.S. The driver of the Pontiac Catalina drove the Dodge Charger in Bullit being chased by Steve McQueen....
LMFAO!!!!My favorite all time villan,..Richard Lynch (RIP)was visibly terrified as the chase begins....he's not acting there!!! Awesome camera work,...n like the man says,NO CGI.
Thanks for the upload man.. My dad showed me this film over my winter break, and I fell in love. This and Bullitt are in a close tie for best car chase scene ever, in my book.
