The Shema and the Holy Trinity 

Shalom. Thank you and all glory to the Triune God. I’m glad to hear that. May this video be useful to others.

In "The trinitarian God" written by the Jesuit Edmund Fortman: "Old testament doesn't say anything explicitly or by necessary implication about a trinitarian God which is Father, son and holy spirit. There is zero proof that a sacred writter even suspect the existence of a trinity within The Divinity. Even seeing in the old testament some suggestions or prefigurations or "hidden signs" of trinity, it is going beyond the meaning of the words and of the intention of sacred writter." Encyclopedia of religion: "The theologians of today agree to say that the Hebrew Bible doesn't include a doctrine of trinity. And the New Catholic Encyclopedia also says: "The doctrine of Holy Trinity is not taught in the old testament" The Church of the First Few Centuries: "The doctrine of trinity was of a gradual formation and relatively late. It had its origin in a source completely foreign to Jewish and Christian scriptures. It grew up and rooted in Christianity, by the hand of platonist fathers" John L. McKenzie, SJ, Dictionary of the Bible: "The trinity of persons within the unity of the nature is defined in the terms of "person" and "nature" which are Greek philosophic terms; actually, the terms doesn't appear in the Bible" In the New Encyclopædia Britannica: "Neither the word trinity, neither the explicit doctrine itself, appear in the new testament, and Jesus and his disciples had not either the intention of contradict the "Shema" in the old testament: "Hear O Israel, YHWH is our God, YHWH is One" (Dt 6:4). (...) The doctrine progressively developed during several centuries through many controversies. (...) At the end of the 4th century (...) the doctrine from here has maintained since". (1976), Micropædia, vol X, p 126 Encyclopedia Americana: "Christianity is derived from judaism, and judaism was strictly unitarian" (1956), vol XXVII, p. 294 L PS: God is the Unique Entity that exists without a beginning, without a possible end, Who subsists by Itself, and is Self-Sufficient. An Unique Entity which has no limitations nor needs. No matter or substance nor shape. No parts. And no imperfection/defects. God has brought into existence the creation, without using any raw material that existed before. And God is ABSOLUTELY DISTINCT from Its creation (whether the material or spiritual part of the creation), and infinitely above it (including space & time) And since God is absolutely distinct from Its creation and infinitely above it: God is, consequently, above anything we can conceive, imagine, think. Since by design: our brain&consciousness can only reach/conceive/imagine realities from the creation, that can be observed/measured. Thus it can't reach this Unique Entity Which "Exists" by default, subsists by Itself, is Self sufficient, and caused the creation and maintain it into existence

@@Adri-242 Hence the trinity is unlike anything in creation.

@@collectiveconsciousness5314 unlike anything in the creation ? Can you elaborate?

​@@Adri-242 Wrong my friend. Ask me, and I will explain the Trinity in full depth!

I’m humbled. I don’t like my voice, so thank you for the kind words.

In "The trinitarian God" written by the Jesuit Edmund Fortman: "Old testament doesn't say anything explicitly or by necessary implication about a trinitarian God which is Father, son and holy spirit. There is zero proof that a sacred writter even suspect the existence of a trinity within The Divinity. Even seeing in the old testament some suggestions or prefigurations or "hidden signs" of trinity, it is going beyond the meaning of the words and of the intention of sacred writter." Encyclopedia of religion: "The theologians of today agree to say that the Hebrew Bible doesn't include a doctrine of trinity. And the New Catholic Encyclopedia also says: "The doctrine of Holy Trinity is not taught in the old testament" The Church of the First Few Centuries: "The doctrine of trinity was of a gradual formation and relatively late. It had its origin in a source completely foreign to Jewish and Christian scriptures. It grew up and rooted in Christianity, by the hand of platonist fathers" John L. McKenzie, SJ, Dictionary of the Bible: "The trinity of persons within the unity of the nature is defined in the terms of "person" and "nature" which are Greek philosophic terms; actually, the terms doesn't appear in the Bible" In the New Encyclopædia Britannica: "Neither the word trinity, neither the explicit doctrine itself, appear in the new testament, and Jesus and his disciples had not either the intention of contradict the "Shema" in the old testament: "Hear O Israel, YHWH is our God, YHWH is One" (Dt 6:4). (...) The doctrine progressively developed during several centuries through many controversies. (...) At the end of the 4th century (...) the doctrine from here has maintained since". (1976), Micropædia, vol X, p 126 Encyclopedia Americana: "Christianity is derived from judaism, and judaism was strictly unitarian" (1956), vol XXVII, p. 294 L

God is the Unique Entity that exists without a beginning, without a possible end, Who subsists by Itself, and is Self-Sufficient. An Unique Entity which has no limitations nor needs. No matter or substance nor shape. No parts. And no imperfection/defects. God has brought into existence the creation, without using any raw material that existed before. And God is ABSOLUTELY DISTINCT from Its creation (whether the material or spiritual part of the creation), and infinitely above it (including space & time) And since God is absolutely distinct from Its creation and infinitely above it: God is, consequently, above anything we can conceive, imagine, think. Since by design: our brain&consciousness can only reach/conceive/imagine realities from the creation, that can be observed/measured. Thus it can't reach this Unique Entity Which "Exists" by default, subsists by Itself, is Self sufficient, and caused the creation and maintain it into existence

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In "The trinitarian God" written by the Jesuit Edmund Fortman: "Old testament doesn't say anything explicitly or by necessary implication about a trinitarian God which is Father, son and holy spirit. There is zero proof that a sacred writter even suspect the existence of a trinity within The Divinity. Even seeing in the old testament some suggestions or prefigurations or "hidden signs" of trinity, it is going beyond the meaning of the words and of the intention of sacred writter." Encyclopedia of religion: "The theologians of today agree to say that the Hebrew Bible doesn't include a doctrine of trinity. And the New Catholic Encyclopedia also says: "The doctrine of Holy Trinity is not taught in the old testament" The Church of the First Few Centuries: "The doctrine of trinity was of a gradual formation and relatively late. It had its origin in a source completely foreign to Jewish and Christian scriptures. It grew up and rooted in Christianity, by the hand of platonist fathers" John L. McKenzie, SJ, Dictionary of the Bible: "The trinity of persons within the unity of the nature is defined in the terms of "person" and "nature" which are Greek philosophic terms; actually, the terms doesn't appear in the Bible" In the New Encyclopædia Britannica: "Neither the word trinity, neither the explicit doctrine itself, appear in the new testament, and Jesus and his disciples had not either the intention of contradict the "Shema" in the old testament: "Hear O Israel, YHWH is our God, YHWH is One" (Dt 6:4). (...) The doctrine progressively developed during several centuries through many controversies. (...) At the end of the 4th century (...) the doctrine from here has maintained since". (1976), Micropædia, vol X, p 126 Encyclopedia Americana: "Christianity is derived from judaism, and judaism was strictly unitarian" (1956), vol XXVII, p. 294 L

God is the Unique Entity that exists without a beginning, without a possible end, Who subsists by Itself, and is Self-Sufficient. An Unique Entity which has no limitations nor needs. No matter or substance nor shape. No parts. And no imperfection/defects. God has brought into existence the creation, without using any raw material that existed before. And God is ABSOLUTELY DISTINCT from Its creation (whether the material or spiritual part of the creation), and infinitely above it (including space & time) And since God is absolutely distinct from Its creation and infinitely above it: God is, consequently, above anything we can conceive, imagine, think. Since by design: our brain&consciousness can only reach/conceive/imagine realities from the creation, that can be observed/measured. Thus it can't reach this Unique Entity Which "Exists" by default, subsists by Itself, is Self sufficient, and caused the creation and maintain it into existence

Good choice!

In "The trinitarian God" written by the Jesuit Edmund Fortman: "Old testament doesn't say anything explicitly or by necessary implication about a trinitarian God which is Father, son and holy spirit. There is zero proof that a sacred writter even suspect the existence of a trinity within The Divinity. Even seeing in the old testament some suggestions or prefigurations or "hidden signs" of trinity, it is going beyond the meaning of the words and of the intention of sacred writter." Encyclopedia of religion: "The theologians of today agree to say that the Hebrew Bible doesn't include a doctrine of trinity. And the New Catholic Encyclopedia also says: "The doctrine of Holy Trinity is not taught in the old testament" The Church of the First Few Centuries: "The doctrine of trinity was of a gradual formation and relatively late. It had its origin in a source completely foreign to Jewish and Christian scriptures. It grew up and rooted in Christianity, by the hand of platonist fathers" John L. McKenzie, SJ, Dictionary of the Bible: "The trinity of persons within the unity of the nature is defined in the terms of "person" and "nature" which are Greek philosophic terms; actually, the terms doesn't appear in the Bible" In the New Encyclopædia Britannica: "Neither the word trinity, neither the explicit doctrine itself, appear in the new testament, and Jesus and his disciples had not either the intention of contradict the "Shema" in the old testament: "Hear O Israel, YHWH is our God, YHWH is One" (Dt 6:4). (...) The doctrine progressively developed during several centuries through many controversies. (...) At the end of the 4th century (...) the doctrine from here has maintained since". (1976), Micropædia, vol X, p 126 Encyclopedia Americana: "Christianity is derived from judaism, and judaism was strictly unitarian" (1956), vol XXVII, p. 294 L

God is the Unique Entity that exists without a beginning, without a possible end, Who subsists by Itself, and is Self-Sufficient. An Unique Entity which has no limitations nor needs. No matter or substance nor shape. No parts. And no imperfection/defects. God has brought into existence the creation, without using any raw material that existed before. And God is ABSOLUTELY DISTINCT from Its creation (whether the material or spiritual part of the creation), and infinitely above it (including space & time) And since God is absolutely distinct from Its creation and infinitely above it: God is, consequently, above anything we can conceive, imagine, think. Since by design: our brain&consciousness can only reach/conceive/imagine realities from the creation, that can be observed/measured. Thus it can't reach this Unique Entity Which "Exists" by default, subsists by Itself, is Self sufficient, and caused the creation and maintain it into existence

In "The trinitarian God" written by the Jesuit Edmund Fortman: "Old testament doesn't say anything explicitly or by necessary implication about a trinitarian God which is Father, son and holy spirit. There is zero proof that a sacred writter even suspect the existence of a trinity within The Divinity. Even seeing in the old testament some suggestions or prefigurations or "hidden signs" of trinity, it is going beyond the meaning of the words and of the intention of sacred writter." Encyclopedia of religion: "The theologians of today agree to say that the Hebrew Bible doesn't include a doctrine of trinity. And the New Catholic Encyclopedia also says: "The doctrine of Holy Trinity is not taught in the old testament" The Church of the First Few Centuries: "The doctrine of trinity was of a gradual formation and relatively late. It had its origin in a source completely foreign to Jewish and Christian scriptures. It grew up and rooted in Christianity, by the hand of platonist fathers" John L. McKenzie, SJ, Dictionary of the Bible: "The trinity of persons within the unity of the nature is defined in the terms of "person" and "nature" which are Greek philosophic terms; actually, the terms doesn't appear in the Bible" In the New Encyclopædia Britannica: "Neither the word trinity, neither the explicit doctrine itself, appear in the new testament, and Jesus and his disciples had not either the intention of contradict the "Shema" in the old testament: "Hear O Israel, YHWH is our God, YHWH is One" (Dt 6:4). (...) The doctrine progressively developed during several centuries through many controversies. (...) At the end of the 4th century (...) the doctrine from here has maintained since". (1976), Micropædia, vol X, p 126 Encyclopedia Americana: "Christianity is derived from judaism, and judaism was strictly unitarian" (1956), vol XXVII, p. 294 L

God is the Unique Entity that exists without a beginning, without a possible end, Who subsists by Itself, and is Self-Sufficient. An Unique Entity which has no limitations nor needs. No matter or substance nor shape. No parts. And no imperfection/defects. God has brought into existence the creation, without using any raw material that existed before. And God is ABSOLUTELY DISTINCT from Its creation (whether the material or spiritual part of the creation), and infinitely above it (including space & time) And since God is absolutely distinct from Its creation and infinitely above it: God is, consequently, above anything we can conceive, imagine, think. Since by design: our brain&consciousness can only reach/conceive/imagine realities from the creation, that can be observed/measured. Thus it can't reach this Unique Entity Which "Exists" by default, subsists by Itself, is Self sufficient, and caused the creation and maintain it into existence

I like the egg analogy. One egg with 3 distinct parts: eggshell, yolk, and egg white.

I’m glad to know that you found the video useful. And yes, it does have a Sephardic feel to it!

In "The trinitarian God" written by the Jesuit Edmund Fortman: "Old testament doesn't say anything explicitly or by necessary implication about a trinitarian God which is Father, son and holy spirit. There is zero proof that a sacred writter even suspect the existence of a trinity within The Divinity. Even seeing in the old testament some suggestions or prefigurations or "hidden signs" of trinity, it is going beyond the meaning of the words and of the intention of sacred writter." Encyclopedia of religion: "The theologians of today agree to say that the Hebrew Bible doesn't include a doctrine of trinity. And the New Catholic Encyclopedia also says: "The doctrine of Holy Trinity is not taught in the old testament" The Church of the First Few Centuries: "The doctrine of trinity was of a gradual formation and relatively late. It had its origin in a source completely foreign to Jewish and Christian scriptures. It grew up and rooted in Christianity, by the hand of platonist fathers" John L. McKenzie, SJ, Dictionary of the Bible: "The trinity of persons within the unity of the nature is defined in the terms of "person" and "nature" which are Greek philosophic terms; actually, the terms doesn't appear in the Bible" In the New Encyclopædia Britannica: "Neither the word trinity, neither the explicit doctrine itself, appear in the new testament, and Jesus and his disciples had not either the intention of contradict the "Shema" in the old testament: "Hear O Israel, YHWH is our God, YHWH is One" (Dt 6:4). (...) The doctrine progressively developed during several centuries through many controversies. (...) At the end of the 4th century (...) the doctrine from here has maintained since". (1976), Micropædia, vol X, p 126 Encyclopedia Americana: "Christianity is derived from judaism, and judaism was strictly unitarian" (1956), vol XXVII, p. 294 L

God is the Unique Entity that exists without a beginning, without a possible end, Who subsists by Itself, and is Self-Sufficient. An Unique Entity which has no limitations nor needs. No matter or substance nor shape. No parts. And no imperfection/defects. God has brought into existence the creation, without using any raw material that existed before. And God is ABSOLUTELY DISTINCT from Its creation (whether the material or spiritual part of the creation), and infinitely above it (including space & time) And since God is absolutely distinct from Its creation and infinitely above it: God is, consequently, above anything we can conceive, imagine, think. Since by design: our brain&consciousness can only reach/conceive/imagine realities from the creation, that can be observed/measured. Thus it can't reach this Unique Entity Which "Exists" by default, subsists by Itself, is Self sufficient, and caused the creation and maintain it into existence

In "The trinitarian God" written by the Jesuit Edmund Fortman: "Old testament doesn't say anything explicitly or by necessary implication about a trinitarian God which is Father, son and holy spirit. There is zero proof that a sacred writter even suspect the existence of a trinity within The Divinity. Even seeing in the old testament some suggestions or prefigurations or "hidden signs" of trinity, it is going beyond the meaning of the words and of the intention of sacred writter." Encyclopedia of religion: "The theologians of today agree to say that the Hebrew Bible doesn't include a doctrine of trinity. And the New Catholic Encyclopedia also says: "The doctrine of Holy Trinity is not taught in the old testament" The Church of the First Few Centuries: "The doctrine of trinity was of a gradual formation and relatively late. It had its origin in a source completely foreign to Jewish and Christian scriptures. It grew up and rooted in Christianity, by the hand of platonist fathers" John L. McKenzie, SJ, Dictionary of the Bible: "The trinity of persons within the unity of the nature is defined in the terms of "person" and "nature" which are Greek philosophic terms; actually, the terms doesn't appear in the Bible" In the New Encyclopædia Britannica: "Neither the word trinity, neither the explicit doctrine itself, appear in the new testament, and Jesus and his disciples had not either the intention of contradict the "Shema" in the old testament: "Hear O Israel, YHWH is our God, YHWH is One" (Dt 6:4). (...) The doctrine progressively developed during several centuries through many controversies. (...) At the end of the 4th century (...) the doctrine from here has maintained since". (1976), Micropædia, vol X, p 126 Encyclopedia Americana: "Christianity is derived from judaism, and judaism was strictly unitarian" (1956), vol XXVII, p. 294 L

God is the Unique Entity that exists without a beginning, without a possible end, Who subsists by Itself, and is Self-Sufficient. An Unique Entity which has no limitations nor needs. No matter or substance nor shape. No parts. And no imperfection/defects. God has brought into existence the creation, without using any raw material that existed before. And God is ABSOLUTELY DISTINCT from Its creation (whether the material or spiritual part of the creation), and infinitely above it (including space & time) And since God is absolutely distinct from Its creation and infinitely above it: God is, consequently, above anything we can conceive, imagine, think. Since by design: our brain&consciousness can only reach/conceive/imagine realities from the creation, that can be observed/measured. Thus it can't reach this Unique Entity Which "Exists" by default, subsists by Itself, is Self sufficient, and caused the creation and maintain it into existence

Thanks so much! I see what you mean. I get the same vibes.

In "The trinitarian God" written by the Jesuit Edmund Fortman: "Old testament doesn't say anything explicitly or by necessary implication about a trinitarian God which is Father, son and holy spirit. There is zero proof that a sacred writter even suspect the existence of a trinity within The Divinity. Even seeing in the old testament some suggestions or prefigurations or "hidden signs" of trinity, it is going beyond the meaning of the words and of the intention of sacred writter." Encyclopedia of religion: "The theologians of today agree to say that the Hebrew Bible doesn't include a doctrine of trinity. And the New Catholic Encyclopedia also says: "The doctrine of Holy Trinity is not taught in the old testament" The Church of the First Few Centuries: "The doctrine of trinity was of a gradual formation and relatively late. It had its origin in a source completely foreign to Jewish and Christian scriptures. It grew up and rooted in Christianity, by the hand of platonist fathers" John L. McKenzie, SJ, Dictionary of the Bible: "The trinity of persons within the unity of the nature is defined in the terms of "person" and "nature" which are Greek philosophic terms; actually, the terms doesn't appear in the Bible" In the New Encyclopædia Britannica: "Neither the word trinity, neither the explicit doctrine itself, appear in the new testament, and Jesus and his disciples had not either the intention of contradict the "Shema" in the old testament: "Hear O Israel, YHWH is our God, YHWH is One" (Dt 6:4). (...) The doctrine progressively developed during several centuries through many controversies. (...) At the end of the 4th century (...) the doctrine from here has maintained since". (1976), Micropædia, vol X, p 126 Encyclopedia Americana: "Christianity is derived from judaism, and judaism was strictly unitarian" (1956), vol XXVII, p. 294 L

God is the Unique Entity that exists without a beginning, without a possible end, Who subsists by Itself, and is Self-Sufficient. An Unique Entity which has no limitations nor needs. No matter or substance nor shape. No parts. And no imperfection/defects. God has brought into existence the creation, without using any raw material that existed before. And God is ABSOLUTELY DISTINCT from Its creation (whether the material or spiritual part of the creation), and infinitely above it (including space & time) And since God is absolutely distinct from Its creation and infinitely above it: God is, consequently, above anything we can conceive, imagine, think. Since by design: our brain&consciousness can only reach/conceive/imagine realities from the creation, that can be observed/measured. Thus it can't reach this Unique Entity Which "Exists" by default, subsists by Itself, is Self sufficient, and caused the creation and maintain it into existence

The first one is much more common. But glad you like them both!

In "The trinitarian God" written by the Jesuit Edmund Fortman: "Old testament doesn't say anything explicitly or by necessary implication about a trinitarian God which is Father, son and holy spirit. There is zero proof that a sacred writter even suspect the existence of a trinity within The Divinity. Even seeing in the old testament some suggestions or prefigurations or "hidden signs" of trinity, it is going beyond the meaning of the words and of the intention of sacred writter." Encyclopedia of religion: "The theologians of today agree to say that the Hebrew Bible doesn't include a doctrine of trinity. And the New Catholic Encyclopedia also says: "The doctrine of Holy Trinity is not taught in the old testament" The Church of the First Few Centuries: "The doctrine of trinity was of a gradual formation and relatively late. It had its origin in a source completely foreign to Jewish and Christian scriptures. It grew up and rooted in Christianity, by the hand of platonist fathers" John L. McKenzie, SJ, Dictionary of the Bible: "The trinity of persons within the unity of the nature is defined in the terms of "person" and "nature" which are Greek philosophic terms; actually, the terms doesn't appear in the Bible" In the New Encyclopædia Britannica: "Neither the word trinity, neither the explicit doctrine itself, appear in the new testament, and Jesus and his disciples had not either the intention of contradict the "Shema" in the old testament: "Hear O Israel, YHWH is our God, YHWH is One" (Dt 6:4). (...) The doctrine progressively developed during several centuries through many controversies. (...) At the end of the 4th century (...) the doctrine from here has maintained since". (1976), Micropædia, vol X, p 126 Encyclopedia Americana: "Christianity is derived from judaism, and judaism was strictly unitarian" (1956), vol XXVII, p. 294 L

God is the Unique Entity that exists without a beginning, without a possible end, Who subsists by Itself, and is Self-Sufficient. An Unique Entity which has no limitations nor needs. No matter or substance nor shape. No parts. And no imperfection/defects. God has brought into existence the creation, without using any raw material that existed before. And God is ABSOLUTELY DISTINCT from Its creation (whether the material or spiritual part of the creation), and infinitely above it (including space & time) And since God is absolutely distinct from Its creation and infinitely above it: God is, consequently, above anything we can conceive, imagine, think. Since by design: our brain&consciousness can only reach/conceive/imagine realities from the creation, that can be observed/measured. Thus it can't reach this Unique Entity Which "Exists" by default, subsists by Itself, is Self sufficient, and caused the creation and maintain it into existence

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This is excellent! Thank you for sharing!!!

In "The trinitarian God" written by the Jesuit Edmund Fortman: "Old testament doesn't say anything explicitly or by necessary implication about a trinitarian God which is Father, son and holy spirit. There is zero proof that a sacred writter even suspect the existence of a trinity within The Divinity. Even seeing in the old testament some suggestions or prefigurations or "hidden signs" of trinity, it is going beyond the meaning of the words and of the intention of sacred writter." Encyclopedia of religion: "The theologians of today agree to say that the Hebrew Bible doesn't include a doctrine of trinity. And the New Catholic Encyclopedia also says: "The doctrine of Holy Trinity is not taught in the old testament" The Church of the First Few Centuries: "The doctrine of trinity was of a gradual formation and relatively late. It had its origin in a source completely foreign to Jewish and Christian scriptures. It grew up and rooted in Christianity, by the hand of platonist fathers" John L. McKenzie, SJ, Dictionary of the Bible: "The trinity of persons within the unity of the nature is defined in the terms of "person" and "nature" which are Greek philosophic terms; actually, the terms doesn't appear in the Bible" In the New Encyclopædia Britannica: "Neither the word trinity, neither the explicit doctrine itself, appear in the new testament, and Jesus and his disciples had not either the intention of contradict the "Shema" in the old testament: "Hear O Israel, YHWH is our God, YHWH is One" (Dt 6:4). (...) The doctrine progressively developed during several centuries through many controversies. (...) At the end of the 4th century (...) the doctrine from here has maintained since". (1976), Micropædia, vol X, p 126 Encyclopedia Americana: "Christianity is derived from judaism, and judaism was strictly unitarian" (1956), vol XXVII, p. 294 L

God is the Unique Entity that exists without a beginning, without a possible end, Who subsists by Itself, and is Self-Sufficient. An Unique Entity which has no limitations nor needs. No matter or substance nor shape. No parts. And no imperfection/defects. God has brought into existence the creation, without using any raw material that existed before. And God is ABSOLUTELY DISTINCT from Its creation (whether the material or spiritual part of the creation), and infinitely above it (including space & time) And since God is absolutely distinct from Its creation and infinitely above it: God is, consequently, above anything we can conceive, imagine, think. Since by design: our brain&consciousness can only reach/conceive/imagine realities from the creation, that can be observed/measured. Thus it can't reach this Unique Entity Which "Exists" by default, subsists by Itself, is Self sufficient, and caused the creation and maintain it into existence

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In "The trinitarian God" written by the Jesuit Edmund Fortman: "Old testament doesn't say anything explicitly or by necessary implication about a trinitarian God which is Father, son and holy spirit. There is zero proof that a sacred writter even suspect the existence of a trinity within The Divinity. Even seeing in the old testament some suggestions or prefigurations or "hidden signs" of trinity, it is going beyond the meaning of the words and of the intention of sacred writter." Encyclopedia of religion: "The theologians of today agree to say that the Hebrew Bible doesn't include a doctrine of trinity. And the New Catholic Encyclopedia also says: "The doctrine of Holy Trinity is not taught in the old testament" The Church of the First Few Centuries: "The doctrine of trinity was of a gradual formation and relatively late. It had its origin in a source completely foreign to Jewish and Christian scriptures. It grew up and rooted in Christianity, by the hand of platonist fathers" John L. McKenzie, SJ, Dictionary of the Bible: "The trinity of persons within the unity of the nature is defined in the terms of "person" and "nature" which are Greek philosophic terms; actually, the terms doesn't appear in the Bible" In the New Encyclopædia Britannica: "Neither the word trinity, neither the explicit doctrine itself, appear in the new testament, and Jesus and his disciples had not either the intention of contradict the "Shema" in the old testament: "Hear O Israel, YHWH is our God, YHWH is One" (Dt 6:4). (...) The doctrine progressively developed during several centuries through many controversies. (...) At the end of the 4th century (...) the doctrine from here has maintained since". (1976), Micropædia, vol X, p 126 Encyclopedia Americana: "Christianity is derived from judaism, and judaism was strictly unitarian" (1956), vol XXVII, p. 294 L

God is the Unique Entity that exists without a beginning, without a possible end, Who subsists by Itself, and is Self-Sufficient. An Unique Entity which has no limitations nor needs. No matter or substance nor shape. No parts. And no imperfection/defects. God has brought into existence the creation, without using any raw material that existed before. And God is ABSOLUTELY DISTINCT from Its creation (whether the material or spiritual part of the creation), and infinitely above it (including space & time) And since God is absolutely distinct from Its creation and infinitely above it: God is, consequently, above anything we can conceive, imagine, think. Since by design: our brain&consciousness can only reach/conceive/imagine realities from the creation, that can be observed/measured. Thus it can't reach this Unique Entity Which "Exists" by default, subsists by Itself, is Self sufficient, and caused the creation and maintain it into existence

It is indeed a rich mystery!

God is the Unique Entity that exists without a beginning, without a possible end, Who subsists by Itself, and is Self-Sufficient. An Unique Entity which has no limitations nor needs. No matter or substance nor shape. No parts. And no imperfection/defects. God has brought into existence the creation, without using any raw material that existed before. And God is ABSOLUTELY DISTINCT from Its creation (whether the material or spiritual part of the creation), and infinitely above it (including space & time) And since God is absolutely distinct from Its creation and infinitely above it: God is, consequently, above anything we can conceive, imagine, think. Since by design: our brain&consciousness can only reach/conceive/imagine realities from the creation, that can be observed/measured. Thus it can't reach this Unique Entity Which "Exists" by default, subsists by Itself, is Self sufficient, and caused the creation and maintain it into existence

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In "The trinitarian God" written by the Jesuit Edmund Fortman: "Old testament doesn't say anything explicitly or by necessary implication about a trinitarian God which is Father, son and holy spirit. There is zero proof that a sacred writter even suspect the existence of a trinity within The Divinity. Even seeing in the old testament some suggestions or prefigurations or "hidden signs" of trinity, it is going beyond the meaning of the words and of the intention of sacred writter." Encyclopedia of religion: "The theologians of today agree to say that the Hebrew Bible doesn't include a doctrine of trinity. And the New Catholic Encyclopedia also says: "The doctrine of Holy Trinity is not taught in the old testament" The Church of the First Few Centuries: "The doctrine of trinity was of a gradual formation and relatively late. It had its origin in a source completely foreign to Jewish and Christian scriptures. It grew up and rooted in Christianity, by the hand of platonist fathers" John L. McKenzie, SJ, Dictionary of the Bible: "The trinity of persons within the unity of the nature is defined in the terms of "person" and "nature" which are Greek philosophic terms; actually, the terms doesn't appear in the Bible" In the New Encyclopædia Britannica: "Neither the word trinity, neither the explicit doctrine itself, appear in the new testament, and Jesus and his disciples had not either the intention of contradict the "Shema" in the old testament: "Hear O Israel, YHWH is our God, YHWH is One" (Dt 6:4). (...) The doctrine progressively developed during several centuries through many controversies. (...) At the end of the 4th century (...) the doctrine from here has maintained since". (1976), Micropædia, vol X, p 126 Encyclopedia Americana: "Christianity is derived from judaism, and judaism was strictly unitarian" (1956), vol XXVII, p. 294 L

God is the Unique Entity that exists without a beginning, without a possible end, Who subsists by Itself, and is Self-Sufficient. An Unique Entity which has no limitations nor needs. No matter or substance nor shape. No parts. And no imperfection/defects. God has brought into existence the creation, without using any raw material that existed before. And God is ABSOLUTELY DISTINCT from Its creation (whether the material or spiritual part of the creation), and infinitely above it (including space & time) And since God is absolutely distinct from Its creation and infinitely above it: God is, consequently, above anything we can conceive, imagine, think. Since by design: our brain&consciousness can only reach/conceive/imagine realities from the creation, that can be observed/measured. Thus it can't reach this Unique Entity Which "Exists" by default, subsists by Itself, is Self sufficient, and caused the creation and maintain it into existence

Glad it was helpful!

In "The trinitarian God" written by the Jesuit Edmund Fortman: "Old testament doesn't say anything explicitly or by necessary implication about a trinitarian God which is Father, son and holy spirit. There is zero proof that a sacred writter even suspect the existence of a trinity within The Divinity. Even seeing in the old testament some suggestions or prefigurations or "hidden signs" of trinity, it is going beyond the meaning of the words and of the intention of sacred writter." Encyclopedia of religion: "The theologians of today agree to say that the Hebrew Bible doesn't include a doctrine of trinity. And the New Catholic Encyclopedia also says: "The doctrine of Holy Trinity is not taught in the old testament" The Church of the First Few Centuries: "The doctrine of trinity was of a gradual formation and relatively late. It had its origin in a source completely foreign to Jewish and Christian scriptures. It grew up and rooted in Christianity, by the hand of platonist fathers" John L. McKenzie, SJ, Dictionary of the Bible: "The trinity of persons within the unity of the nature is defined in the terms of "person" and "nature" which are Greek philosophic terms; actually, the terms doesn't appear in the Bible" In the New Encyclopædia Britannica: "Neither the word trinity, neither the explicit doctrine itself, appear in the new testament, and Jesus and his disciples had not either the intention of contradict the "Shema" in the old testament: "Hear O Israel, YHWH is our God, YHWH is One" (Dt 6:4). (...) The doctrine progressively developed during several centuries through many controversies. (...) At the end of the 4th century (...) the doctrine from here has maintained since". (1976), Micropædia, vol X, p 126 Encyclopedia Americana: "Christianity is derived from judaism, and judaism was strictly unitarian" (1956), vol XXVII, p. 294 L

God is the Unique Entity that exists without a beginning, without a possible end, Who subsists by Itself, and is Self-Sufficient. An Unique Entity which has no limitations nor needs. No matter or substance nor shape. No parts. And no imperfection/defects. God has brought into existence the creation, without using any raw material that existed before. And God is ABSOLUTELY DISTINCT from Its creation (whether the material or spiritual part of the creation), and infinitely above it (including space & time) And since God is absolutely distinct from Its creation and infinitely above it: God is, consequently, above anything we can conceive, imagine, think. Since by design: our brain&consciousness can only reach/conceive/imagine realities from the creation, that can be observed/measured. Thus it can't reach this Unique Entity Which "Exists" by default, subsists by Itself, is Self sufficient, and caused the creation and maintain it into existence

Thank you, I will

In "The trinitarian God" written by the Jesuit Edmund Fortman: "Old testament doesn't say anything explicitly or by necessary implication about a trinitarian God which is Father, son and holy spirit. There is zero proof that a sacred writter even suspect the existence of a trinity within The Divinity. Even seeing in the old testament some suggestions or prefigurations or "hidden signs" of trinity, it is going beyond the meaning of the words and of the intention of sacred writter." Encyclopedia of religion: "The theologians of today agree to say that the Hebrew Bible doesn't include a doctrine of trinity. And the New Catholic Encyclopedia also says: "The doctrine of Holy Trinity is not taught in the old testament" The Church of the First Few Centuries: "The doctrine of trinity was of a gradual formation and relatively late. It had its origin in a source completely foreign to Jewish and Christian scriptures. It grew up and rooted in Christianity, by the hand of platonist fathers" John L. McKenzie, SJ, Dictionary of the Bible: "The trinity of persons within the unity of the nature is defined in the terms of "person" and "nature" which are Greek philosophic terms; actually, the terms doesn't appear in the Bible" In the New Encyclopædia Britannica: "Neither the word trinity, neither the explicit doctrine itself, appear in the new testament, and Jesus and his disciples had not either the intention of contradict the "Shema" in the old testament: "Hear O Israel, YHWH is our God, YHWH is One" (Dt 6:4). (...) The doctrine progressively developed during several centuries through many controversies. (...) At the end of the 4th century (...) the doctrine from here has maintained since". (1976), Micropædia, vol X, p 126 Encyclopedia Americana: "Christianity is derived from judaism, and judaism was strictly unitarian" (1956), vol XXVII, p. 294 L

God is the Unique Entity that exists without a beginning, without a possible end, Who subsists by Itself, and is Self-Sufficient. An Unique Entity which has no limitations nor needs. No matter or substance nor shape. No parts. And no imperfection/defects. God has brought into existence the creation, without using any raw material that existed before. And God is ABSOLUTELY DISTINCT from Its creation (whether the material or spiritual part of the creation), and infinitely above it (including space & time) And since God is absolutely distinct from Its creation and infinitely above it: God is, consequently, above anything we can conceive, imagine, think. Since by design: our brain&consciousness can only reach/conceive/imagine realities from the creation, that can be observed/measured. Thus it can't reach this Unique Entity Which "Exists" by default, subsists by Itself, is Self sufficient, and caused the creation and maintain it into existence

They definitely provide a basis for this reality. Thanks for sharing.

In "The trinitarian God" written by the Jesuit Edmund Fortman: "Old testament doesn't say anything explicitly or by necessary implication about a trinitarian God which is Father, son and holy spirit. There is zero proof that a sacred writter even suspect the existence of a trinity within The Divinity. Even seeing in the old testament some suggestions or prefigurations or "hidden signs" of trinity, it is going beyond the meaning of the words and of the intention of sacred writter." Encyclopedia of religion: "The theologians of today agree to say that the Hebrew Bible doesn't include a doctrine of trinity. And the New Catholic Encyclopedia also says: "The doctrine of Holy Trinity is not taught in the old testament" The Church of the First Few Centuries: "The doctrine of trinity was of a gradual formation and relatively late. It had its origin in a source completely foreign to Jewish and Christian scriptures. It grew up and rooted in Christianity, by the hand of platonist fathers" John L. McKenzie, SJ, Dictionary of the Bible: "The trinity of persons within the unity of the nature is defined in the terms of "person" and "nature" which are Greek philosophic terms; actually, the terms doesn't appear in the Bible" In the New Encyclopædia Britannica: "Neither the word trinity, neither the explicit doctrine itself, appear in the new testament, and Jesus and his disciples had not either the intention of contradict the "Shema" in the old testament: "Hear O Israel, YHWH is our God, YHWH is One" (Dt 6:4). (...) The doctrine progressively developed during several centuries through many controversies. (...) At the end of the 4th century (...) the doctrine from here has maintained since". (1976), Micropædia, vol X, p 126 Encyclopedia Americana: "Christianity is derived from judaism, and judaism was strictly unitarian" (1956), vol XXVII, p. 294 L

God is the Unique Entity that exists without a beginning, without a possible end, Who subsists by Itself, and is Self-Sufficient. An Unique Entity which has no limitations nor needs. No matter or substance nor shape. No parts. And no imperfection/defects. God has brought into existence the creation, without using any raw material that existed before. And God is ABSOLUTELY DISTINCT from Its creation (whether the material or spiritual part of the creation), and infinitely above it (including space & time) And since God is absolutely distinct from Its creation and infinitely above it: God is, consequently, above anything we can conceive, imagine, think. Since by design: our brain&consciousness can only reach/conceive/imagine realities from the creation, that can be observed/measured. Thus it can't reach this Unique Entity Which "Exists" by default, subsists by Itself, is Self sufficient, and caused the creation and maintain it into existence

@@Adri-242 So Edmund miss the understanding of Jewish cosmology and hurting a bunch of Jewish Catholic that refered the basis of Trinity and it prafiguration in Zohar. “Hear oh Israel, YHWH, our Lord, YHWH [is one]” (Deut. 6-4), thus, all is one. On this He is called One. These are three names. How can they be called one? Even though we call them one, how can they be one? Rather, in the vision of the holy spirit it is known, and these in the vision of the closed eye, to know that these three are one. And this is the mystery of the voice as it sounds. A voice is one, and it is three aspects- fire, spirit, and water, and all of them are one in the mystery of the voice. So too, “YHWH, our Lord, YHWH,” these are one. Three aspects, and they are one. This is the voice that a man produces in the unification, to draw his desire in unification from ein sof until the end of all, with this voice that is made with these three that are one. This is the daily unification that is revealed in the mystery of the holy spirit. And several aspects of unification are aroused, and all of them are true. One who performs this, performs, and one who performs this, performs. But this unification that we arouse from below in the mystery of the voice that is one, this is the clarification of the thing in principle. (Zohar 2:43b). If he says it is beyond the understanding of what is written. We, never see in Old Testament that YHWH is attributed with the word Yachid (one as a singular number). The Kabbalist material was already translated and accapted as the interpretation of Old Testament teaching long before Edmund was born. Such as a Catholic Kabbalist named Pico della Mirandola, that instructed by Pope Innocent VIII to translate the Kabbalah material or Pope Leo X that instructed Pietro Galatino to compile the Kabbalist materials in his book named "De Arcanis Catholicae Veritatis". So Edmund base argument is simple to dismissed.

@@Adri-242 Also His word and His Spirit. Clearly Old Testament mention the existance of The Word and The Spirit in Genesis 1:1-3. Also when God creating the universe from the day 1 to day 5, God create it by "saying" this is not an empty order. Look at Psalm 33:6 that mentioning by the Word of the Lord, sky has been created, this indicate that what He says when the creation time, is not just an order but its also a noun that belong to God. What is belong to God also eternal and without begining and end. So Word of of God is an eternal and not seperated from God. The formula of Word of God that mention in John 1:1-14 is true then.

I’ve read about that but I wasn’t familiar with this later work by R. Tzvi Nasi. I’ll have to check it out. Thank you.

In "The trinitarian God" written by the Jesuit Edmund Fortman: "Old testament doesn't say anything explicitly or by necessary implication about a trinitarian God which is Father, son and holy spirit. There is zero proof that a sacred writter even suspect the existence of a trinity within The Divinity. Even seeing in the old testament some suggestions or prefigurations or "hidden signs" of trinity, it is going beyond the meaning of the words and of the intention of sacred writter." Encyclopedia of religion: "The theologians of today agree to say that the Hebrew Bible doesn't include a doctrine of trinity. And the New Catholic Encyclopedia also says: "The doctrine of Holy Trinity is not taught in the old testament" The Church of the First Few Centuries: "The doctrine of trinity was of a gradual formation and relatively late. It had its origin in a source completely foreign to Jewish and Christian scriptures. It grew up and rooted in Christianity, by the hand of platonist fathers" John L. McKenzie, SJ, Dictionary of the Bible: "The trinity of persons within the unity of the nature is defined in the terms of "person" and "nature" which are Greek philosophic terms; actually, the terms doesn't appear in the Bible" In the New Encyclopædia Britannica: "Neither the word trinity, neither the explicit doctrine itself, appear in the new testament, and Jesus and his disciples had not either the intention of contradict the "Shema" in the old testament: "Hear O Israel, YHWH is our God, YHWH is One" (Dt 6:4). (...) The doctrine progressively developed during several centuries through many controversies. (...) At the end of the 4th century (...) the doctrine from here has maintained since". (1976), Micropædia, vol X, p 126 Encyclopedia Americana: "Christianity is derived from judaism, and judaism was strictly unitarian" (1956), vol XXVII, p. 294 L

@@Adri-242 quotes from the sources You mentioned aren’t very convincing when there are multiple Jewish scholars, ranging from reform to Orthodox, a Tosafost, rabbi Mosheh ben Chasdai taku, and possibly more Rishonim admitting to Multinitarian Theology and/or Deific Embodiment in The TaNaKh. no Trinitarian that i know of would argue that The Word Trinity exists in the TaNaKh or Apostolic Writings, but neither do Words like Eruvin, Chagigah, ‘avodhah zarah,” and other Jewish terms, yet Rabbis would argue the concepts are Biblical. in The TaNaKh we have a Mal’akh who is individuated from Hashem in Shamaym, yet identified as Hashem, and the K’var Enosh in DaniEl 7 who is individuated from The Atiq Yamim, yet rides on the Clouds of Heaven, just like Hashem does in multiple places in the TaNaKh and we definately have The Ruach Elohim/Haqodhesh mentioned which i don’t remember if This Ruach is identified as Hashem, but idk Who else the Ruach would be. if One choses not to be a Multinitarian and/or an Eloqist that’s His or Her decision, but there is definately Biblical and extraBiblical evidence as to why someone would Conclude with such Theologies.

@Zach Fanton actually in any religion you have different currents&intepretations, which can often be opposed. So the fact that you can manage to find some scholars who agree for a "multinitarian" theology doesn't mean at all that these kind of theologies are correct.. And btw on the other hand how many scholars disagree with it instead ?..

God is the Unique Entity that exists without a beginning, without a possible end, Who subsists by Itself, and is Self-Sufficient. An Unique Entity which has no limitations nor needs. No matter or substance nor shape. No parts. And no imperfection/defects. God has brought into existence the creation, without using any raw material that existed before. And God is ABSOLUTELY DISTINCT from Its creation (whether the material or spiritual part of the creation), and infinitely above it (including space & time) And since God is absolutely distinct from Its creation and infinitely above it: God is, consequently, above anything we can conceive, imagine, think. Since by design: our brain&consciousness can only reach/conceive/imagine realities from the creation, that can be observed/measured. Thus it can't reach this Unique Entity Which "Exists" by default, subsists by Itself, is Self sufficient, and caused the creation and maintain it into existence

Who knows. There may be something to that.

THE FIRST AND THE LAST IS THE ALMIGHTY: “I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty” Revelation 1:8 THE FIRST AND THE LAST IS THE ONLY GOD: “Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.” Isaiah 44:6 JESUS CHRIST IS THE FIRST AND THE LAST: “And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.” Revelation 1:17-18

THE LORD GOD ALONE FORGIVES SINS: “I, even I, am he that blotteth out thy transgressions for mine own sake, and will not remember thy sins.” Isaiah 43:25” JESUS CHRIST IS HE WHO FORGIVES SINS: “When Jesus saw their faith, he said unto the sick of the palsy, Son, thy sins be forgiven thee.” Mark 2:5 THE LORD OUR GOD IS THE ONLY SAVIOUR: “I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.” Isaiah 43:11 OUR SAVIOUR IS THE ONLY WISE GOD: “To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.” Jude 1:25 JESUS CHRIST IS THE GREAT GOD AND OUR SAVIOUR: “Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;” Titus 2:13

THE LORD OUR GOD IS GOD OF GODS AND LORD OF LORDS: “For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward: He doth execute the judgment of the fatherless and widow, and loveth the stranger, in giving him food and raiment.” Deuteronomy 10:17-18 THE LORD IS THE ONE KING AND HIS NAME IS ONE: “And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.” Zechariah 14:9 THE KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS IS THE BLESSED AND ONLY POTENTATE: “That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ: Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;” 1 Timothy 6:14-15 JESUS CHRIST IS LORD OF LORDS AND KING OF KINGS: “These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.” Revelation 17:14 THE LORD GOD IS THE ONLY CREATOR: “Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;” Isaiah 44:24 “I am the LORD, your Holy One, the creator of Israel, your King” Isaiah 43:15 JESUS CHRIST IS OUR CREATOR: “That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.” John 1:9-10

GOD OUR FATHER IN HEAVEN PROMISED THAT HE WOULD DWELL AMONGST US IN THE FLESH, MESSIAH: “Sing and rejoice, O daughter of Zion: for, lo, I come, and I will dwell in the midst of thee, saith the LORD. And many nations shall be joined to the LORD in that day, and shall be my people: and I will dwell in the midst of thee, and thou shalt know that the LORD of hosts hath sent me unto thee.” Zechariah 2:10-11 THE MESSIAH BORN IN BETHLEHEM IS EVERLASTING. “But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.” Micah 5:2 MESSIAH IS THE LORD WHOM YOU SEEK: “Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts.” Malachi 3:1 THE MESSIAH IS “THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS”: “Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth. In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.” Jeremiah 23:5-6 JESUS CHRIST IS THE MIGHTY GOD AND THE EVERLASTING FATHER WHO DWELT AMONG US IN THE FLESH: “For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.” Isaiah 9:6 TO KNOW JESUS IS TO KNOW THE FATHER, HE WHO HAS SEEN JESUS HAS SEEN THE FATHER, JESUS CHRIST IS IN THE FATHER AND FATHER IS IN HIM : “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. Phillip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.” John 14:6-10 JESUS CHRIST AND THE FATHER ARE ONE: “I and my Father are one.” John 10:30 EVERYTHING THAT THE FATHER HAS BELONGS TO JESUS CHRIST- THEREFORE ALL DIVINITY BELONGS TO JESUS CHRIST: “I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.” John 16:12-15

JESUS CHRIST IS COMPLETELY AND FULLY GOD AND THERE IS NOT ANY OTHER GOD BESIDE HIM: “For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.” Colossians 2:9 JESUS IS THE LORD FROM HEAVEN: “The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.” 1 Corinthians 15:47 HE IS GOD WITH US: “Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.” Matthew 1:23 GOD WAS MANIFEST IN THE FLESH: “And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.” 1 Timothy 3:16 AND IT IS HE WHOM THEY PIERCED: “And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.” Zechariah 12:10 JESUS CHRIST IS OVER ALL, GOD BLESSED FOREVER: “Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.” Romans 9:5 JESUS THE MESSIAH IS GOD WHO DWELLT AMONGST US IN THE FLESH, AND THERE IS NO OTHER GOD: “And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth.” Isaiah 49:6 “Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.” Isaiah 45:22 THE LORD OUR GOD SEARCHES THE HEART AND TRIES THE REINS: “I the LORD search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings.” Jeremiah 17:10 JESUS CHRIST IS HE WHO SEARCHETH THE REINS AND THE HEARTS: “And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.” Revelation 2:23 THE ONE AND ONLY GOD, BESIDES WHOM THERE IS NO OTHER GOD, WILL JUDGE BY HIS WORD: “See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand. For I lift up my hand to heaven, and say, I live for ever. If I whet my glittering sword, and mine hand take hold on judgment; I will render vengeance to mine enemies, and will reward them that hate me.” Deuteronomy 32:39-41 “And this is the blessing, wherewith Moses the man of God blessed the children of Israel before his death. And he said, The LORD came from Sinai, and rose up from Seir unto them; he shined forth from mount Paran, and he came with ten thousands of saints: from his right hand went a fiery law for them.” Deuteronomy 33:1-2 “And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.” Jude 1:14-15 JESUS CHRIST’S WORD IS HE WHO WILL JUDGE. “And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.” Revelation 19:11-16

In "The trinitarian God" written by the Jesuit Edmund Fortman: "Old testament doesn't say anything explicitly or by necessary implication about a trinitarian God which is Father, son and holy spirit. There is zero proof that a sacred writter even suspect the existence of a trinity within The Divinity. Even seeing in the old testament some suggestions or prefigurations or "hidden signs" of trinity, it is going beyond the meaning of the words and of the intention of sacred writter." Encyclopedia of religion: "The theologians of today agree to say that the Hebrew Bible doesn't include a doctrine of trinity. And the New Catholic Encyclopedia also says: "The doctrine of Holy Trinity is not taught in the old testament" The Church of the First Few Centuries: "The doctrine of trinity was of a gradual formation and relatively late. It had its origin in a source completely foreign to Jewish and Christian scriptures. It grew up and rooted in Christianity, by the hand of platonist fathers" John L. McKenzie, SJ, Dictionary of the Bible: "The trinity of persons within the unity of the nature is defined in the terms of "person" and "nature" which are Greek philosophic terms; actually, the terms doesn't appear in the Bible" In the New Encyclopædia Britannica: "Neither the word trinity, neither the explicit doctrine itself, appear in the new testament, and Jesus and his disciples had not either the intention of contradict the "Shema" in the old testament: "Hear O Israel, YHWH is our God, YHWH is One" (Dt 6:4). (...) The doctrine progressively developed during several centuries through many controversies. (...) At the end of the 4th century (...) the doctrine from here has maintained since". (1976), Micropædia, vol X, p 126 Encyclopedia Americana: "Christianity is derived from judaism, and judaism was strictly unitarian" (1956), vol XXVII, p. 294 L

Not separate but distinct. Separation implies they can be taken apart, distinction implies that the persons are different, yet cannot be broken. In this case, the persons are different in relation to one another, yet they cannot be separated or broken since they are united under one singular divine nature.

What do you mean by distinct ??? as it's a very vague concept. What is distinct ??? When you say distinct does it mean the Father. Son and Holy Spirit each have their own centre of consciousness and will and each have their own personality. Two Humans can share the same Human Nature but they are still two humans not one.

When you use the term Person, then by default they are separate???

@@grahamtopfuel Yes, I am saying they are their own conscience as we see the persons interact with one another, meaning they are different in that respect. Nevertheless, they are unseparated from one another because each person has the same divine nature that makes God God. Btw God isn’t the same as a human isn’t he 😅

May I ask, where is this quote from?

@@housecry My sect of Islam paraphrases Surah 4:171.

​@@idris_haris_al-kalima I'm curious what sect of islam are you from, yall sound Christian and when dive into the early islam they praying toward Jerusalem and jesus was revered by Muhammad.....

@@user-gl8ie1jp8s Sadly, my sect of Islam has had many names, but none of them ever became common. My sect sees Muhammad as another name of the Anointed Redeemer. In fact, Mahometanitas would a name of my sect in Latin. But my sect is small and is very secretive as both Sunni and Shia Muslims hate us.

@@idris_haris_al-kalima Would you be interested in going up on godlogic channel and talking about this...?? And I want to do more research on this, godlogic even though it's a joke sometimes will say he is a original quran only Christian because he believes uthman changed the quran and the original quran pointed to jesus as savior.....

Have you read the book of Genesis? The language used is enough to give one an idea of trinity.

@john osumba In "The trinitarian God" written by the Jesuit Edmund Fortman: "Old testament doesn't say anything explicitly or by necessary implication about a trinitarian God which is Father, son and holy spirit. There is zero proof that a sacred writter even suspect the existence of a trinity within The Divinity. Even seeing in the old testament some suggestions or prefigurations or "hidden signs" of trinity, it is going beyond the meaning of the words and of the intention of sacred writter." Encyclopedia of religion: "The theologians of today agree to say that the Hebrew Bible doesn't include a doctrine of trinity. And the New Catholic Encyclopedia also says: "The doctrine of Holy Trinity is not taught in the old testament" The Church of the First Few Centuries: "The doctrine of trinity was of a gradual formation and relatively late. It had its origin in a source completely foreign to Jewish and Christian scriptures. It grew up and rooted in Christianity, by the hand of platonist fathers" John L. McKenzie, SJ, Dictionary of the Bible: "The trinity of persons within the unity of the nature is defined in the terms of "person" and "nature" which are Greek philosophic terms; actually, the terms doesn't appear in the Bible" In the New Encyclopædia Britannica: "Neither the word trinity, neither the explicit doctrine itself, appear in the new testament, and Jesus and his disciples had not either the intention of contradict the "Shema" in the old testament: "Hear O Israel, YHWH is our God, YHWH is One" (Dt 6:4). (...) The doctrine progressively developed during several centuries through many controversies. (...) At the end of the 4th century (...) the doctrine from here has maintained since". (1976), Micropædia, vol X, p 126 Encyclopedia Americana: "Christianity is derived from judaism, and judaism was strictly unitarian" (1956), vol XXVII, p. 294 L PS: God is the Unique Entity that exists without a beginning, without a possible end, Who subsists by Itself, and is Self-Sufficient. An Unique Entity which has no limitations nor needs. No matter or substance nor shape. No parts. And no imperfection/defects. God has brought into existence the creation, without using any raw material that existed before. And God is ABSOLUTELY DISTINCT from Its creation (whether the material or spiritual part of the creation), and infinitely above it (including space & time) And since God is absolutely distinct from Its creation and infinitely above it: God is, consequently, above anything we can conceive, imagine, think. Since by design: our brain&consciousness can only reach/conceive/imagine realities from the creation, that can be observed/measured. Thus it can't reach this Unique Entity Which "Exists" by default, subsists by Itself, is Self sufficient, and caused the creation and maintain it into existence

@@Adri-242 Genesis 1:1-3 with the interpreration of Psalm 33:6 is strong prafiguration of Trinity. Your "Jesuit" argument is baseless and without reasoning.

@@dimasbagus7551 LOL ... You chose to be completely delusional

@@Adri-242 delusional you say ? Clearly Old Testament mention the existance of The Word and The Spirit in Genesis 1:1-3. Also when God creating the universe from the day 1 to day 5, God create it by "saying" this is not an empty order. Look at Psalm 33:6 that mentioning by the "Word of God, the sky were made", this indicate that what He says when the creation time, is not just an order but its also a noun that belong to God. (bidbar YHWH, בִּדְבַ֣ר יְ֭הֹוָה) What is belong to God also eternal and without begining and end. So Word of of God is an eternal and not seperated from God. The formula of Word of God that mention in John 1:1-14 is true then.