the differences in crew compliment could be due to the age of the ships. a newer borg cube has less drones so it has room to add new species and ship crews via assimilation.
At Wolf 359, the Borg used Picard's knowledge of Starfleet Tactics and Technology to deadly effect, and a lot of those ships were refit designs from Kirk's Golden Years!!!
the future tech voyager brought back to the alpha quadrant were totally forgotten about in the star trek picard series, its like voyager never got home
To be fair, Section 31 / Department of Temporal Investigations would've likely locked that stuff down the moment Voyager was in drydock. By post-return depictions, Voyager was stripped down back to 24th Century 'spec' *immediately* upon its return.
No love for the Borg Arctic One from Enterprise? Sure it didn't last long, but it made an impact showing how any ship could slowly be transformed into a Borg vessel.
The narrator sounds like Kelsey Grammer to me, which made me feel like Fraser was talking to directly to me. Therefore, I love this video even more. Subscribed!
I have one of those books that detail the ships of Star Trek and the commentary on the Tactical Cube was great. They were discussing what the Borg heavy combat ship should be before settling with the "Borg Cube with a flak jacket" look, where there said it simultaneously tells you nothing about the ship, while telling everything about it.
In my head canon, the Cube(s) sent to assimilate earth, were a form of Fusion Cube. They were bigger, more powerful, and more foreboding than the 'run of the mill' Cubes that Voyager and The Raven encountered.
That kind of annoyed me a little in Picard S3, they had a Borg "ally" to call upon, I think it would have been the ultimate irony, for a Jurati-Borg fleet of cubes to arrive to Earth, and help defend it against the controlled 1st fleet
Agreed 100%. This is what I expected, tbh. I’m ok with how it went…to be sure, but it would have been a great twist & great continuity to have the above happen. 😎👍@@LoneTiger
@@LoneTiger Well they do need to establish a new big bad if the borg are gone or allies so having Jurati show up later to reveal her good borg fleet is all but gone thanks to the new big bad that she was holding off while Picard and co were dealing with the bad Borg would make sense
@@farshnuke In space, just like the ocean, the same rules apply: 1. There's always a bigger fish. 2. Once you step in the ocean, you are part of the food chain. And don't forget the "kill all organics" specie at the end of S1 living outside the galaxy, somewhere. Though, if ST needs a quick evil guy, just bring up Armus. 😹
You missed a ship. The Borg scout ship from TNG I Borg. Apparently it was a smaller ship. A lot of people think it was just wreckage from a cube and don't include this as a separate ship but I would look into it and determine if it is a separate ship.
Not really worth including since we never see it whole and intact, just in pieces after its crash. The Enterprise crew didn't even analyse the wreckage to see what it would have looked like.
my Star Trek Adventures character knows the Borg personally, he was at Wolf 359. he was also onvoard the Lakota, during the martial law incident, but that was scrubbed from my record. i tranferred to the ship, then told it never happened.
On Voyager, when the Borg suggested a mass destruction weapon to stop species 8472, I noticed the configuration of the weapon was the same as a ship that was used by Hue and his faction. Did Hugh and his Borg take on the shape of a weapon of mass destruction, so others will leave them alone?
I love to think of lores captured borg ship as alien in origin. It was seen as a tactical weapon to target borg unimatrix ships in borg space. But the borg captured it and used it purpose as a weapon to serve their needs. It make it easier to swallow if you think the borg had time to duplicate the technology then start using it as a mine ship in voyager. So it was already assimilated technology that had rogue borg taking over it in on tng. Then it had it appearance in voyager years later.
I'm not even sure the Borg have models. So not only might the sphere small enough to fit inside a cube and the sphere big enough to swallow the Voyager be different sizes, but maybe each cube and sphere is a slightly different size and composition from the others.
I was wondering when you all were getting to the Cyborg Collective, and Adam is the one voicing it, Goody! BTW, I like your Sponsers today, though I'm happy with what I got. I'll recommend this to my friends & family! Given the aging of the Next Gen Crew I see a Borg Civil War in the future of at least one of the current OR Future series!
I think the Borg were severely overused in Voyager, diminishing their threat and the level of fear to be associated with the Collective. Damn shame too.
It's not a damn shame.The fact that they were in the Delta quadrant in Borg Territory, they weren't overused. They were just not used in the right way. That's what truly diminished how they felt in the show.
The ship used by the queen at the end of Pickard was actually the unicomplex that was partially destroyed in voyager. It's basically the enitre mass converted into a borg cube. We know the ships themselves can repair themselves without drones so this is likely to be the end result, plus its where the Queen was when the virus hit her. If I had to guess I would put it around the 50km range in size. Even the Necrons would back off from that monstrosity unless it's the silent kings ship who could flick it like a fly. Huh I wonder what would happen if their nanoprobes and nonoscarabs interacted with one another? One is designed for repair and the other is for repair and assimilation. Speaking of we should get a discussion about nanobots in star trek. There actually is a variety to choose from.
🖖😎👍Very cool and very nicely well done and executed and informatively explained in every way shape and form provided on this format and subject matter on the various different types of ships and vessels of the Borg armada and of their fighting abilities and battle tactics and weapons systems and shielding availability and of their trans warp capabilities and so forth and so on indeed!,👌.
Easily argued that either A. The OG creators of The Borg left-in that limitation. Perhaps to prevent a Grey Goo/Von Neuman Machine scenario (it went sideways, anyway, ofc) B. The Q seemed to 'fear' The Borg's potential. They may have 'handicapped' The Borg at some point, to keep them from becoming (effectively) omnipotent.
I perfer the singalrity myself we know all about the other cubes and have been iniside of them I would want to know more about the ship and its interior.
The pyramid and obelisk types are interesting. Star Trek Legacy, the computer game not the series everyone is rooting for, even created earlier designs for the Borg. Having a look as to what they might look like in the ENT and TOS/TMP eras. I think we need more designs for them to pop up too at some point. At least give verification or not that every ship is built upon and "grows" over time like what was planned and hinted at in ENT.
Lieutenant Commander Shelby was not forst officer under Captain Riker when she mentioned the fact of the 78% damage to a cube and it still being able to function, she had been left behind by Admiral Hanson, this was before she was reprimanded by Riker for not taking a break when she wanted to continue with ways to try and come up with a defence with the current systems, and to work with Data who did not require sleep.
Frankly, I would much rather deal with the Borg than that lunatic Q. The Borg would grow weary of me after a point, but Q, he's able to resist any of the things that would prevent my assimilation by the Borg....I'd be toast as soon as I tried anything. I mean it, he doesn't even need a ship to get things done.
You missed one unofficially. ironically pulled from the Star Trek "Armada" 2 video game that came out early 2000's and was considered canon. Its called a Borg Trapezoid, used to assimilate a planet quickly.
He missed one. There was a tiny little one that was basically a sort of shuttle that only held 4 drones. Voyager found a crashed one once and it was recreated for the StarTrek: Armada video game.
@@DanBen07 you know I take it back, I believe I was thinking of the TNG episode where they found Hugh. For some reason I was thinking 7of9 was there but am misremembering.
its not technically canon as it is a ship specifically used in star trek online but the gorg unimatrix vessel something many STO players mockingly call the borg space pickle
my pet theory is that, as Lore's borg were using unusual weapons that Riker and Worf thought were Ferengi in origin, their ship was a prototype built by Ferengi arms dealers like Gaila, that was then stolen by Lore and co.
In the first encounter with the BORG, after the Enterprise crew is able to escape the tractor beam and fly off, the cube "turns" and pursues the Enterprise. Why does it need to turn? Disregarding the fact, having the BORG cube face forward makes filming easier (more support), I've always thought the cube should be corner forward so more weapons, tractor beams, etc... could be available, plus no need to "turn". ;-)
If is the ship is damaged or regenerating maybe it turns that part of the ship away from its target so it doesn't take more damage or time to regenerate there.
The Star Trek rogue ship I would say was an assimilated ship because that particular ship was shown in a different episode of Star Trek that had nothing to do with the Borg
You say that cubes that have been rendered largely inoperable continuing to function hasn't been seen, but that's not entirely true. In Scorpion Part 1 and in Imperfection, Voyager encounters cubes that have been mostly destroyed, but large intact portions still have breathable atmosphere and artificial gravity. Had the drones aboard not all been killed, they could theoretically, and given enough time, conduct sufficient repairs to make their chunk of scrap mobile again.
the Borg were much scarier when they were a monolith as they were first introduced, rather than an insect colony full of specialization & unique indivuals and factions.
The singularity seems as a version of the Borg who are rather nicer than what we know. "They only assimilate those who chose to be assimilated". This seems so out of place but I welcome something like this.
to m the gigantic borg cube of season 3 of Picard to me remain the Death Star, the Enterprise D being the Millenium Falcon that travel inside to destroy it; change my mind
I always disliked the First Contact Cube design. Not enough larger pipes like in the BOBW Cube. In my mind. The Borg Cube should look like an oil or gas platform.
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To be quite honest the last borg cubes should have been the communications cube. And then on top of that. Anything that Star Trek online puts through. I call cannon There are the ones that keep expanding on the Lore of Star Trek. And nothing's being said about it
There's just something....*wrong* about seeing a Galaxy class whipping through that like it's an X-Wing inside the 2nd deathstar. It takes away all the weight that ship should have in its movements.
