Took Pepe for some surgery this week, much needed fix of ream main oil seal as well as welcome tune up and fixes that make it much a much better drive as a daily! Thanks to Matt at Pug1off: www.pug1off.com
A cheap and brilliant brake upgrade is Peugeot 206 180 front calipers and discs, DS2500 pads, branded hoses, and Peugeot 806 master cylinder. Brilliant pedal feel and efficiency.
The starting issue is a very common 205/309 issue. You go to start the car and it just clicks. Common repair amongst owners is to wire in a second starter motor relay in the engine bay, it's a very very simple fix but works perfectly everytime. I'd recommend visiting the 205gtidrivers forum for the wiring diagram as you can be caught out by the supplementary air device leaving a live to the starter permanently.
I went in a friends fully restored split mint 205 1.9 last Tuesday evening after a classic car meet in Congleton. My last drive in one was around 1995 in my own 1.9 so to be given the chance to get taken for a blast in this at only 2 weeks after it’s been back on the road was a joy. It really was like stepping back in time and I had a massive smile on my face( far more than in my mk7 Golf GTI). In my opinion things have moved on obviously but in some respects in the wrong direction. Now it’s too much emphasis on bhp and a lot less driver involvement so I totally see the appeal of keeping these and other true drivers cars on the road.
Pepe used to be the ultimate street sleeper during the mid 2000s as that was my old car! It used to run an mi16 with modified rally spec head and cams, twin 45 weber carbs, a 1.6 gti gear box with 4:4 diff, was running approx 210bhp and used to eat wrxs through the box! It was also running no interior seats bar x2 omp buckets and harnesses and a full Bilstein group n suspension set up and 309 gti rear beam.
Modern performance cars bore me to tears even though they are much faster and safer than my beloved 205 GTi that I ran back in the 1980s. I just don't get the mass appeal of these dead sounding automatic gearboxes and popping exhausts.
@@fasthracing You were right with the Festa... A good 205/306 GTi will be more fun and easier to work on. Though probably slightly less refined as they are 20-30yrs old.
That brown plug should be literally sitting at the front of the gearbox underneath a loads of pipes etc. Mine was in a state and I was able to buy a modern replacement, not that that totally solved my ‘click click click’ starting issues. The garage seems to have solved that (so far so good) and I’m guessing it was a dodgy earth somewhere. Great video btw 👍🙂 That rear seal oil leak could be the distributor o’ ring. They go brittle and leak down from the distributor to the back of the gearbox... just a guess made before watching the whole video 😂
Good to see the Peugeot specialist fixing things without replacing them or charging for unnecessary work. Good to find someone you can trust. Great little car 👍
All well known fixes, pleased it’s sorted. Glad you felt the power of 16 valves, on throttle bodies they really do fly along. Mine has an Mi16 the original 16v modification (194bhp on bodies) lighter than the GTI-6 unit in pug1off. Try and find a turbo technics one, they are fun too.
Always nice to hear that your trust and expenditure with someone has not only corrected the car but directly related to the improved driving experience too. 😊
I've always liked the 205GTi. Had a chance to buy one many years back and didn't :( . That 237hp version is definitely worth its own video. Be really interesting to see it compared with a modern hot hatch, as you suggest. Seems to me it'll be bloody hard to beat as a driving experience.
By the way.... I think that this modified 237 HP Peugeot 205 GTi has more horsepower than today's 2020 Mazda MX-5. That is insane. What a gorgeous little package for an everyday driver.
my Pug 1.9 GTI also in Miami Blue developed the same intermittant starting issue, not resolved with a new starter motor. Also my white 1.6 GTI had the same gear linkage design problem!
Looking good, things that really make it pop are improved front shocks and bushes, (though the stock aren't bad, age is a thing) as well as improved exhaust headers. The intake only really gets improved when you go full throttle-bodies and they are a pain to setup.
Ive had the ignition switch go bad on a 205 gti. it can be dismantled and cleaned. just intermitted not starting. i had replaced starter motor battery etc before finding it to be the ignition switch.
pug1off know there pugs! visited pug1off few weeks ago & met matt n parts guy... changed my loom plug over... really good company!!! was a blue 205 gti outside he pulled up in got photo of my boy next to the pug... holding his toy model of the 205 t16 👍
Fantastic episode. The proof of your AUTHENTICITY was when you announced to Mat from Pug1Off Peugeot & Citroen Soecialsts (www.pug1off.com), that your Peugeot 205 GTi is named Pépé. You actually turned RED in the face. Terrific. All your videos are enteetaining, informative and easy to keep watching. Please allow me to make some suggestions for future episodes : --you must bring on Ratarossa for a few episodes or maybe an ANNUAL Ratarossa-Number 27 meet-up of Ferraristas --You have to run a mini-contest to invite one of your viewers over for a coffee and a test drive of both the Peugeot and the Ferrari. 😃 --taking the Pepe 205 GTi to a TRACK DAY of high-speed driving (with proper insurance of course) --road trip to Modena, Italy to visit your Ferrari's birthplace (with a face mask of course) ~ Keep up the great work.
I had almost forgotten about pep'e with all the updates on the InfluEnzo! I do love pep'e Jack, the 205 GTI has to be one of the most rewarding fun cars in its price point and its retro 😀 cool cool car 👍
@@ryanmccormick2150 Fun part is they are incredibly rare where I live and I got both for a steal. Now gotta fix up the GTi-6 for track and make the S16 the immaculate one. Unfortunately the GTi-6 has had a front end punt previously so isn't ever going to be the concourse car :D
@@BrKnOblivion who wants a concourse car ! The car you have is better because it can be used and enjoyed thats way better then 1st place at a car show well thats what I think anyway 👍
Concerning the steering wheel's red GTI emblem, your red marker touch-up looks great. I have done this to dozens of steering wheels.... but.... I have noticed that it will disolve within a year with usage and from interacting with the natural oils from your hands. I have repainted it with a thin paint brush with a RED paint for plastic. Then I covered the area with tape and sprayed a CLEAR COAT spray specifically designed for PLASTIC & RUBBER surfaces. It works very well and makes the emblems look substantial and factory-fresh.
I can confirm guys of Pug1Off are known from far away UK, because I live in Argentina and know their good work. Would love to take my car to them. Good video as always, best regards from across the river
I thought I was doing well with my 2000 Mazda Protegé SE with 155505km, all original since new but of course the Canadian winters and the road salt/brine/grime renders this Japanese made puddle jumper's body resemble fine lacework, sadly I bid it farewell one week ago to live on as an organ donor. Enjoy your videos!
That white 205 seemed angry ! Must be an absolute weapon ! In the end it's a lot of little things very common for 20+ years cars, balljoints, sticky calipers, tune up, bushings etc, but when everything is a bit old and tired, and everything fails at the same time, it adds up, and it takes really more time than skills or money (if you do it yourself), on a driveway, with the painful back, sometimes, trusty workshop is a nice solution. I went this way for the rear right hand bearing on my e30, didn't have time, tools, wounded shoulder etc, took it to a known old bmw shop, 2 days, 200 bucks, fixed. It would have cost me the same with the part and the tool purchase anyway. Glad to see pepe healthy !
Thank you! I will, the 5 series engine is still at the shop, the e30 needs a steering rack for the next inspection (mot like), a quicker one will replace the stock worn out unit anyway, and the M3 needs diff bushes and general maintenance too, project cars life once again 😁
At least you're having more luck on this..... and having some fun. £14 for a stereo.... good result. You'll only get better clarity be spending a lot more money..... and the speakers, if replaced, might make a difference. Good vid. Cheers 👍👍
I had a G reg 205 GTI 1.6 in white from new, it was an awesome little car, maybe one day I’ll look for another one. I remember driving my Dad around Monaco in it. It looked alright next to all the Ferraris 😁
Storytime! I owned the smaller 1.6 Gti and it was just a constant source of mechanical issues. Fun as heck, but fragile. On sad day, after picking up my friend for lunch, I put it in gear and intend to drive away (as you do). Car doesn't move an inch. So i thought missed the gear, put it in gear again, and the car nudged forward a couple of centimeters. So, it's a dreadful clutch slip. Look under the car, see oil dripping. Manage to "drive" it by leaving throttle at idle and putting it in third gear. So I'm doing 6 km/h through central Stockholm in the mid day traffic rush. Manage to get to service garage , and they find the gearbox separated completely from the engine, holding on loosely by the top three bolts. How the heck it got to that stage, we'll never know. I'd have LOVED to just have a leaky seal.
I'm sure your radio/head unit is fine - but - we had a guy who fitted one in his MG. Worked perfectly well and sounded good. Several months later he started to experience battery problems. He fitted a new battery and the problem continued. We had an auto electrician check it out and he said the radio was drawing way too much power when the vehicle was parked up! Changed the unit and vehicle was fine.
nice one! this is making me want my old mk2 golf gti back that my younger brother kindly wrote off for me whilst i was on holiday 😢😢 love the old classics ❤️❤️❤️
Nice job on the steering wheel badge. Also that garage seems like a good outfit. Most garages would have simply swapped the front discs, rather than finding the actual cheap cause. I’m looking forward to the video on that white modded 205. It looked like quite a handful, but epically fast! Interesting to see how it compares to more modern stuff....
Being a 205 owner from Wales, with no specialist nearby, would love to know what the costs were for the work done in this video. Looking forward to seeing the weather proofing video
There he go again.... 😁 First the Ferrari had to get a different sound, now the little Pug need a different stance. I'd say leave the ride height as it is, it looks the way it's supposed to look. Don't worry about not really wanting to rip the gearbox out yourself. I have learnt it's a part of the growing up process. 20 years ago we would have enjoyed to do it. But not any longer, better to get someone else to do the dirty work. A very good example from my own life, I've today picked the wife's car up from the garage, where it had the A/C regassed. I was on eBay last night to buy the materials to do it myself, and suddenly thought "Naah, that engine really need a steam cleaning, I'll get all dirty, get someone else in on it!" -I recently wanted to try out one of those bargain stereos off eBay. £25 incl postage got me a head unit with a 7" touch screen, and a reversing camera. I was prepared to bin it/selling it on, but it turned out not only does it work, it is rather good. Certainly good value for the money.
you've the 1.9 GTI if you want to make to make the car even nippier, change the gearbox to the 1.6 GTI, that's a very well know modification, one of which I've certainly experienced & would recommend..
I have a similar ‘79 308 and the fog lights are fitted behind the front grille and seem to work ok. Looks like it might even be a factory installation. CP
Small, light, nimble, peppy, simple. How did we lose this winning formula? Loving this content. And yes, a small thing like a scruffy badge would bug me too!
Nice one!! Thats turned out to be an excellent little daily driver, it has character, I like it. I need to get something along the same lines as this.....
I'd love to own one, which in principle is possible. A daily... don't know. I had a 106GTI, drove it from new to 100.000 miles in 4 years, and never had an issue, except for the bobbins. Sold it, and the next owner had to exchange many parts in the suspension, that were worn out. Bought a new 106GTI in 2001, which I totalled because of snap oversteer on a cold and rainy day. Had 2 non GTI 205's. Nice driver cars. They don't make it like that anymore. Not a lot of low-speed-fun cars are build anymore. Mazda MX-5, Swift, maybe an UP! GTI?
Love your videos... especially you’re ‘music placement’ for influenzo & Pepe videos... really sets up the rest of the video. From memory, Didn’t you buy Pepe from a Peugeot engine specialist? If so...it’s worrying! Keep up the great vids! 👍🏽
Wish i still had my 1.6 sorrento green gti. Mk2 golfs i have ease the pain. Your miami blue 1.9 is a fine example, enjoy it to the max while you have it, but watch high speed cornering in the rain 🤣 Edit; found my old one on Ebay and won the auction🙂. She is coming home 8 owners and 15 years later 😂
starter problem could be the starter relay...it happen to my ford Orion 1986 (D)sometimes it would start then not... ..I replaced everything...Then one day I heard a click under the dash and it started...when I didn't here the click it didn't start..20 quid pink relay later sorted...
Also much more costly.... If it's installed correctly, the chance of a head unit actually catching fire isn't really anything to worry about. Remember, the electronics inside are likely identical to what's in the Pioneer.
@@thefreedomguyuk no, mate. It burned inside the head unit. I believe it was a short between the jack and the usb port. They were too close. But it's price was ridiculous with SD card, USB, Jack... But once I looked inside 😲
Hi @Number27, Great clip - Really informative! :) Can you please point me to the red marker you have purchased on eBay for the stirring wheel? Thanks M
Love the content , especially having owned a 205GTI in my younger years but sadly only the 1.6 L version . But it was still just as much fun on country roads, but when pushed on corners the back end used to hop out . I was told this was a trait of the 205?
its a trait with most of the early hot hatches even up until the saxo. They all love stepping out of line if you enter a corner hot enough! Good fun just got to power out of the turn when the wheel straightens up and you'll be fine.
Hey.... do you have the WEBSITE LINK for that cute car stereo with Bluetooth available ? And many of us would like to know what the sound quality is like & if you're satisfied. ~ Cheers. ( "I am not a number... I'm a free man!" I." )
I totally get that the expense of having someone else work on your car can be seemingly expensive, but with results like this it makes it worthwhile...... if only you could justify the same type of expenditure on the 308...... maybe look for a Ferrari specialist as a sponsor!!!!
