Fantastic case today! They were definitely both equally culpable, she got off lightly. I always feel so sorry for kids who find gruesome bodies or parts, especially when its wrapped or boxed up. Any kid is going to be hoping they've found treasure only to be traumatized. Thank you for another great episode!
I agree with the 3 before me. It makes me queasy picturing what the kids saw in their minds for years everafter, and knowing it could be repeated in today's world.
So many in the stories from these times are let out before the end of their sentences, especially women. Mrs Nack had a hard life in Prussia, experienced loss, moved to the US for a better life, experienced loss yet again and then decided to go for broke and willfully completely destroy her life. Depressing case. Interesting but depressing. Thank you Brief Case.
absolutely true, the same goes for death sentences, some very evil women but most had sentences reduced and were freed due to public outcry, not so for men,
This crime as told by you, kept me glued to my seat.... The police did a complete investigation leaving no stone unturned The depravity of cutting up a corpses is just so graphic in the layman's mind Thank You
I'm thinking about Augusta and her life. I am a mother too, and I can relate to her in the case of her losing the two small children. It would have had a massive impact on her psyche. The children's father took to alcohol in his grief. What was her reaction? Her thoughts? I think she became another person after the tragedy. Maybe she felt that nothing mattered anymore. Lying, committing adultery and even murder was nothing compared to the devastating loss of her babies. Just my thoughts late at night with my little girl sleeping in the next room. Thank you BC for yet another very interesting video.
@@wendyjones1422exactly! There are many people who have experienced tragedies (inc child related) and not all commit crimes - those who do sorry have to face the consequences still 🤷🏻♀️
It is so disturbing - the mental and emotional gymnastics, the conversations between them, that must have occurred for two seemingly normal, functional people to decide that murdering and dismembering another person was any type of solution to a problem… I don’t understand the verdict. She got off very easy. Good night from Australia 🇦🇺 BC.
The strangest thing is that the body parts were moved miles from Woodside to be disposed of, and dumped where likely to be found. There were plenty of desolate places closer to the cottage.
Hi BC. Happy Monday! I had to watch this video twice because customers actually expected me to work while watching it the first time - too many twists to keep up with. That woman should've gotten the same punishment although I've heard the electric chair that early was rather gruesome. Have a great week, and thanks for the video!
Good evening Briefy, thank you for sharing another unknown crime with your respectful manner for all involved. Life can be hard now but back then; well it was *very* rough. I hope you are keeping well and you have a great week. Take care mate 😊cheers
Am I the only one who wonders HOW "she then lived out her life in relative obscurity in New Jersey"? What did she live on? Did she have a job? What kind of job? Did she change her name? And then there's the question of how did she live with herself and what she'd done - effectively killing two men? It's not just her I'm curious about. I wonder about, say, Casey Anthony. How she live? Where does she get her money to live on? It's not as if people wouldn't immediately recognize her - and who would hire her? And how does the guilt not crush her? I'm always struck by the fact that there are honest, innocent people who struggle to stay afloat at all through no real fault of their own after losing a job or going through divorce and find themselves on the street or nearly, while people like this seem to have no money problems at all...
Many "normal" empathetic people who have healthy interpersonal emotions and coping skills wonder how such people live the rest of their lives with their consciences after committing heinous crimes and injustices against innocent victims, especially if they are lucky to escape punishment. In almost all cases, their brains show under development and abnormalities in the areas of the brain governing reasoning and emotion. Their behaviors are typically very narcissistic, sociopathic and in the extreme, psychopathic. They are very entitled and will go to any lengths to get what they want or desire without regards to the well being or harm done to others and feel totally justified in their actions. These antisocial behaviors are shown early in their lives as young children and progressively become worse as the individual ages. They are unable to feel regret or remorse; they are unable to apologize nor change their self-centered focus away from themselves.
@@Curlyblonde Yes, of course. But, logistically, how do they manage? Who hires them and how do they make their way? Casey Anthony was one of the most despised ever and yet she flourishes. It's beyond my comprehension.
@@Lucinda_Jackson After she was released from custody, her lawyer hired her to work in his office, and she still works there according to the latest update. Most of the notorious serial killers, no matter how depraved their crimes, always seem to have many fans and admirers, who want to financially support them, marry them, have their babies etc. Hard to comprehend why this happens.
Perhaps she went back Ilegal terminations?, lucrative, secret, no taxes, no responsibility if something went wrong, all covered up. Survival in obscurity.
This one was weird because no real motivation was found. Its not like these two were married. She was not bound to her ex lover. Why did she think it be better to kill him than simply leave?
Some abusive persons will not leave their victims alone until they're forced to do so, in one way or another. They should have just left NY moved out west and away from the man. Back then people could just make up a whole new identity, move away without much of a paper trail. He would have likely never found them or even put much effort into it.
When Augusta said during her testimony that she was afraid of both men, I believe her. It was a man's world and she got left holding the short end of the stick. If anyone ghosts haunted the Brooklyn jail, it was her's. She got three shoddy men; a drunk for a husband and two jealous jerks and to top it all lost both of her children.
So many times while I watch your vids I stop and gaze at the photos, and am fascinated by them. The stories of victims back then are just as sad as the stories of today. Not sure why I stopped getting your vids for awhile... seems to happen with crime channels? thanks for your hard work! nearly 400 K subs! Good for you hon!
The amazing thing is that each week the stories are so full of detail and never disappoint. I have started missing a few weeks or months do to a bing binge watch 😊. Thanks BC, I started watching you while bord sh*tless in a Zambian game park surrounded by monkeys and elephants the first year you started and now I am watching you from a dodgy Travel Lodge in Strafford Upon Avon😊
That made me laugh but I am sorry it should not have, just the thought of all that space and wonderful animals in a Zambian Game Park and now a Travel Lodge in Stratford Upon Avon, however Stratford Upon Avon is a very beautiful town and of course where William Shakespeare was born :)
@@BriefCaseOfficial BC if I can make you laugh then it's my pleasure. I know some of the stories as many have featured on Deadly Women but your a treasure. You had a story once that featured Zambia, I think it started in South Africa. Thank you for the weekly dose and keep on encouraging Crime Reel😀 Stratford is very beautiful!
The murderers were not very smart. Wrapping the parts in the same type of oilcloth immediately connected the parts together. Then they left the incriminating tools in the house instead of discarding them? Not smart!
A most convoluted case indeed. It's amazing how they, in that time period went about solving the case. But to leave evidence almost in plain view speaks volumes about the stupidity of the people involved in the crime. She should have went back to Germany or some other country where no one knew her. Well narrated as usual BC.
Recalling other cases of dismemberment before the age of the automobile where the intent was to hide the body parts but while transporting the parts the person was for some reason compelled to just leave a part along the side of the road.
My word, Augusta's life was a compendium of all the ills people so often faced - the hardship, the early age of work, the economic problems, the loss of children, the exile, the drunken partner....still, she survived it all, unlike poor Mr.Goldensuppe.- or Mr. Thorne!
Hey BC! I feel really amazed at how you manage to find so many details in these old cases... It's fascinating and very interesting because in those times we didn't have science such as DNA to help solving crimes. I appreciate your work, you're brilliant! Cheers from Rio de Janeiro 🥰🌻
This was a weird one. They just killed the guy, no motive at all. I also have doubts about who actually shot him, but I'm inclined to think she did the shooting and he helped her dispose of the body. They were both equally guilty, and she deserved the same sentence he got.
Just a couple of notes, all of which are trivial and probably have little bearing on the case. Even though New York was a city of immigrants from all over, any time there was a trial involving an immigrant, the newspaper reports were usually very slanted against them, regardless of their true character, especially if a crime had been committed against a natural born citizen. Not to defend her, but I always wonder how the loss of a child, especially if they are young, affected those women who later on are found to have committed crimes. How did that change their character? If I heard the dates correctly, she would have been 48 years old when she got out of prison. After two shops both failed, what did she do to support herself? I can only presume that she moved somewhere that her name was not known as she would have been a social pariah locally.
Good morning! It never seems to amaze me what people will do for love including murder. I can’t fathom how someone can cut up a human being and toss them away like garbage even the stories that I hear today. Most stories are about the same thing which is infidelity and money and jealousy. Plus back then if you got a divorce you always had to worry about what people thought of you and that’s really sad it’s almost like you were trapped because people would judge you behind a divorce. So you have to sneak around while you’re married which is actually worse. As I always say different times. Thank you again for a great story have a wonderful week and looking forward to next Monday Bless 🇬🇧🇵🇭🙏🏽
Wow i haven't heard the term oil cloth since I was a small child my grandmother used that term for linoleum,...... showing me age lol...... thanks BC brilliant as always 👍
I Don't Have A Problem With Both Of Them Being Found Guilty, My Only Issue Was The Punishment. I Just Don't Believe It's Fair To Sentence Someone To DEATH - If They Had An Accomplice In Committing A Crime...Especially If It Can't Be Determined Who ACTUALLY Killed The Victim! How Is That Justice?
thankfully this law still stands in many countries, it doesnt matter who shot, both wanted it and conspired, it was and still is common to blame each other so a case collapses, if you are involved in the murder of someone no matter in what way then you are guilty of murder
Good morning and thank you Brief Case. I look forward to Monday mornings nowadays, because I know I'm going to hear a good story. I hope you have a wonderful week Brief Case 😊
Holy moly. Long island is my home town. This case was really interesting. I think I read about this crime in one of my books. Great job briefcase. Thanks for all you do
Interesting observation, yes normally immigration boots them out as they are considered Undesirables, so someone was asleep on the job. During the Oath of Allegiance, you make a promise to abide by the law and be a good citizen. She certainly created enough havoc and destruction during her short time in the US.
@@BlackRiverBay Even naturalized citizens could have had their citizenship revoked if they didn't behave themselves or the authorities could prove that they lied or with held vital information during the citizenship process. Immigration threw out gangsters and war criminals after their jail sentences were completed, if they were born elsewhere. It was certainly a lot easier and faster to repatriate them if their US citizenship was still being processed or hadn't been started yet. Either way, they were booted out and were banned from ever entering again.
Horrific crime . Often.... I wonder how can people do such horrible deeds, makes my stomach churn. RIP William G. Have a very good week BC and faithful listeners. Greetings from Texas Elizabeth C.
I wholeheartedly agree! Why murder him at all? And in such a ghastly manner to boot? Makes absolutely no sense. Rather good that we don’t understand as it makes us sane, productive members of society.
She got lucky in not being hanged as well. I'm sorry she lost her children though, that might have been what set her and husband into a terrible spiral
During the late 1800s a lot of Prussian Germans (some of my ancestors among them) emigrated to the new colony of South Australia, where they set up a large Germanic area around Lobethal (Valley of Praise). Unfortunately a number of the German place-names were changed during the anti-German sentiments of WW1. The Germanic influence was so strong that I was raised speaking a form of the original German language over 80 years later ! (some of these German settlers feature in "the Towitta Mystery: the murder of Bertha Schippan" )
Brief case, Love your channel. I love history and vintage crime! Thanks for all your hard work in bringing us these Fascinating cases! By the way the electric chair was first introduced in New Yorks-Ossining prison (better known to all as Sing sing prison) on January 1, 1889, and was first used for Execution in July 17, 1891. 5 people were executed that very day! So in this story the electric chair was Pretty New in Sing Sing prison at the time of execution of Martin Thorne on August, 1, 1898.. Thanks for the upload. ❤❤
When the video talked about how Augusta start a midwife job, I thought the case would be about her ki*ling babies and/or children….it’s still an awful story, but I’m a bit “relieved” the victim was an adult. ☺️
OMG….me too. I was considering turning it off when they mentioned the midwife bit. It’s even more difficult to watch programmes about child abusers and murder.
Brief Case, what a wonderful video to relax to after 2 hours and 45 minutes of mowing the grass. 🥵 Thank you for continually having some excellent content for our enjoyment. 😊
Hello Brief Case 💼 Well it is another story where the lady got away with murder but the gent did not! Both equally culpable! And no rhyme or reason for the murder. No motive! Some people are just murderous pieces of dung. Who should have been punished or deported. She certainly didn't deserve to live out her days in relative obscurity in NJ! 🤦🏻♀️ Have a lovely week! (Resa)
Hello BC, just came back from my evening walk with Belle, will be going for my Dental appointment tomorrow afternoon at 2pm. May need a root canal or a crown on one of my left lower teeth, pray for me! As for this case, RIP!
And yet today people still come to the same horrible decision that murder is the best solution for an already ill set of circumstances! When will people learn murder is not a good decision? In the end one died and they never ended up being together after all!
I've heard about a lot of cases where LE think a body found in a river is just a joke by medical students. Was this a common thing? If so, how gross! Btw, I just discovered your channel by accident yesterday, and love learning about these old cases.
“…She opened a shop, but after people realized who she was, she closed it down. She opened another one, but it had the same fate…” So you're telling me Cancel Culture has been a thing for hundreds of years? Well, how 'bout that! 😉
Um, having to close your shop because people don't want to patronize your business because you MURDERED a person (and were of loose moral character in Victorian/Edwardian times) is a far cry from refusing to patronize a business because they vote for someone you don't like or hold an opinion you don't care for.
She opened a deli, it failed. She opened another. It failed. She tried again. It failed. She lived out her life in relative obscurity in New Jersey. Saddest story ever B.C.
