The Tragic case of the Bristol Babes in the Wood 

Makes me wonder if it was a family member or friend

"“Died of a guilty conscience” sounds like code for suicide to me" It's not even code, it's just a polite way of saying that a person committed suicide when you suspect the person to be a murderer. "Why did the doctor bother announcing he knew the killer’s identity if he had no intention of sharing it? " And why did the police not have the power to force him to give up the details?

Perhaps it was the doctor?

I can't help noticing that the doctor wore horn-rimmed glasses...

Probably only did it for publicity or to draw attention to some book or research he was involved with.

Maybe it was him..

Maybe it was him..

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It’s the accent.

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Which leads me to believe that that doctor did it and through projecting it onto someone else, possibly an imaginary person, he eased his own mind before he passed away.

Yeah, what happened to “First, do no harm”? Seems that shrink harmed the hell out of those poor parents. Jerk.

I believe the logic is, if you think they might do something in future you have to tell but if you are convinced something is in the past, can’t be fixed, and won’t be repeated, then you have to keep it confidential. Or at least that’s the way confidentiality stuff works in the US.

​@@TheKuptis Entirely possible. June was my age, Dad wore a suit to work well into the seventies, as did every Doctor our family knew. If a man in a blue suit hadn't come forward as a witness to even the children, who reported seeing anyone else nearby at the time? Trench coat, coveralls?

Yes. My instinct is, the patient's confession may never even have happened, and Dr Arthur Hyatt Williams simply invented it for "colour" when presenting his case study. He would not be the first psychoanalyst to do such a thing in order to bolster a thesis. When put on the spot by the police, he was simply unable to produce evidence that it had ever happened.

What's worse is that "dr." is remembered for: "His lifelong interest in helping with mourning was reflected in papers based on Coleridge’s Ancient Mariner and Keats’s La Belle Dame Sans Merci." Instead the good "Dr." should be remembered for his lifetime participation in hiding a murderer and his taunting cruelty towards relatives of murder victims in some sick twisted attempt for him to gain more fame without caring who's necks he steps on...

At it's foundation psychiatry is not a science, it's all subjective opinions that cannot be proven and so shouldn't even be considered a medical doctorate to begin with!

Psychiatry doesn’t have the Hippocratic oath, and “first, do no harm” only applies to physical harm.

@@caittails They are medical doctors. So if their school has an oath of some kind, they take it.

​@@caittails???? That's not a loophole that exists, mental harm is still harm, where did you learn this?

I TOTALLY agree with you

Just because an individual confesses to a crime does not mean that an individual actually committed the crime. When there is a possible mental instability involved, it would be especially important for the police to uncover evidence that supports the confession.

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@@Dawna-gp1zk Helpful much?

He was probably the perp himself.

No he is not. He likely promised the killer to keep it confidential.

@@bluewizzard8843 Who cares what he promised a deceased killer? It's a shame there were no mandatory reporter laws for this kind of thing back then like there are now. If there had been, the moment that guy confessed to murder, regardless of the circumstances, he would've been legally required to report it.

@@herecomesaregular8418 There ARE mandated reporter laws for this, and they state that it’s illegal for a doctor to report past crimes if they can’t prove that they think someone else is in danger.

@@bluewizzard8843 But he didn't. He didn't have to blab anything.

Absolutely!

@@donaldgriner3767 Thank you, it doesn't have to be in the public domain. The family is owed a duty of care, but not to the exclusion of the family of the children. Having two plucked away like this, heart breaking.

You cant judge the past with modern standards, only learn from it.

​@murder13love I think we can and SHOULD judge the past with modern lenses. Otherwise, you get people who idolize the past and find ways to repeat it in the future. Child marriages is the first thing that comes to mind. It's what we did back then and was normalized. Most people have been appalled by it. And it's something that still happens to this day even though we've learned why it's wrong. Using the same logic and laws from back then. I always hear "those who don't learn history, will repeat it" but I think "those who don't judge times in history, are doomed to bring it back". Look at reproductive health in the US as the best example of this.

@@fandomfreak1210 Ok, then you should wipe all history, remove all statues and abolish the learning of cultural history then... Grow up. That is censorship. That is how things were and we evolve as a society, we should NOT hold the past to current standards at all.

1958...we were gone on our bicycles from dawn to dusk. Never had any thought about danger. We had the Park..the Wash...the Creek...and our friends houses for lunch. The Saturday matinee was .25 cents...left our bikes at the rack by the bank ..never used a lock..still waiting for us when we came out. 2 movies..cartoons..and a serial. What happened ?

@@thegreencat9947 We shoved God out of our lives in the West.. We're seeing the natural descent into depravity as a result. It's not pretty.

This is indeed a nostalgic comment. My children was 1941 and spent the summer playing football with the neighbours and local kids in the park. Not a parent in sight.

I'm in my 60s and we were the last generation to experience freedom...by the time I became a mother I couldn't let my babes out of my sight...the world became much more dangerous, in one generation...😞

I wonder about the doctor. Do you remember, was he considered suspicious in the murders?

​@@addie_is_meAs Paul stated, the doctor implicated a male patient, but wouldn't say more.

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Maybe he was lying for attention or something. If it was true he should have revealed who said it. Otherwise he should have kept his big fat mouth shut. What a cruel thing to do to parents who are suffering with unspeakable grief.

Unless there was no patient and he was involved in the children’s deaths.

@marylewis167 I thought of that, or that he might have been involved somehow. Whatever the reason was, he should have been held to account for making that statement and then not clarifying it. It was criminal to leave the parents hanging like that. "I know, but I'm not going to tell you." Grounds for jailing him for withholding evidence or accessory after the fact or something, it seems to me

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Right. He might as well have not brought it up at all if this was going to be the response. My thought would be he did it himself.

Or HIS family? Anyway... As others before me stated. Why would he even mention it if he had no intention of revealing his name?

Or royal family? Wasn't Jack the Ripper supposed to be someone like that?

Like a lot of history, I learned about the Molly Mcguires from a folk song.

I only heard of this right now...thank you ​@@lisafish1449

I would be interested most definitely in this story. I've never heard of it and should be a crime that all should know about considering the amount of innocent men hanged. Hope you can cover it Paul and let us know when you can post it.

This sounds a very interesting story 😢

@@lisafish1449 it’s a true story

I'm sure he was haunted by this tragedy. My heart goes out to him and his parents. The survivors have to live with the pain...what a heinous crime.

Honestly, I’m surprised they weren’t able to pressure him more. Couldn’t you be charged with withholding information or something?

A psychiatrist has confidentiality just as lawyers and priests. Would you suggest the police pressure priests to reveal what is said in the confessional just because people want to know what was confessed.? Or should defense attorneys be required to reveal what their clients tell them?

@@jocelynmartin1572 It's up to the professional to make a decision between their duties and their willingness to bend rules or defy the norms of them. IMO, no Lawyer, Doctor, or Clergyman likely would, or should be required to reveal, though each may have different reasons to hold their tongues.

In the very early 70s my baby brother went missing. He had been last seen with 2 little girls about 5 and 6 years old, they were pretending that he was their baby. Putting him on a step pretending to feed him pushing him in a stroller. But in Ontario Canada 🍁 the sun going down early in the fall it was getting dark fast. The entire neighborhood came together for the search for Freddie. The youngest of the entire neighborhood and my family. Panic after 3 hrs of search for him the parents of the 2 girls finally allowed the police to speak with the girls. They just kept saying they put him down to sleep because it was getting dark and had to go in for the night. Screaming came from bushes at the back of another home. He was found under some bushes and was covered by a camping sleeping bag. Those girls were saying still he is in bed don't wake him he has to go to sleep. They still played with him regularly until he was a young teenager and to this day he never remembered that time but the girls and those who were seaching for Freddie still have those hrs of panic in their memories

​@@honeylacecookieWow!

It was also incredibly racist. A real sicko behind it.

Yeah shut up.

​@@bluewizzard8843 You shut up dude 😎

Don't make stupid assumptions based on nothing but your disaproval do keep his knowledge confidential.

Or he was a controlling sadist.

😨🤤 Holy Moses...an ax? My God..I can't even imagine.

I was a foreign exchange student in Norway! I came from United States in the 1990’s. I love your country

Snuff was a form of tobacco. Bristol was famous for its tobacco industry at one time, with Wills being the best known firm.

Thousands of people turn out to search for missing children just the same today. What has changed is that it is no longer common for children of seven and five to be allowed to go out for a walk by themselves. When I was that age in the 1970s, and maybe into the 1980s yes, but not nowadays.

People just turned out in their hundreds to search for a missing child in Germany. This is not unusual.

Did they find the missing child safe? I hope so.

@@carolannemckenzie3849 I do assume you are asking me? I am sorry, no. He still is missing.

I am sorry to hear that. I hope they are returned safely to their family.

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